Some state workers quit over union fee
By Lindsay Tice
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Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
On Tuesday morning, Richard Valcourt figured out he had 277,000 seconds left as a state worker.
He said he loved his job with the Department of Health and Human Services' Lewiston office, and after 23 years he hated to walk away.
"You don't do what I do for very long without it becoming a part of your life," he said.
But Valcourt also loathed the thought of paying a service fee to the Maine State Employees Association, a union he didn't belong to and really didn't like. If he stayed, his wages would be garnished to pay that fee.
"That was the straw that broke my back," he said.
This summer he made a career-ending decision. He will retire earlier than planned. Friday will be his last day.
"I felt like a patriot in the 1700s," he said. "I was looking for a harbor where I could dunk some tea."
In 2005, the state made a deal with the Maine State Employees Association to force non-union state workers to pay a union service fee. Legal challenges and legislative proposals kept the fee at bay for two years, but those have all but disappeared. Last session, the Legislature passed a bill allowing the state to pull money from workers' paychecks to pay for the fee, regardless of whether those workers agree. The state will start taking the money Sept. 20.
Some employees don't plan to stick around that long. Like Valcourt, they're walking away.
"I view the attachment of my wages as punishment," said Harvey Boatman, who left his job as a Maine Department of Education transportation and construction specialist last Friday.
Boatman, Valcourt and others say they aren't quitting because of the money. The union fee is less than $5 a week, and they can afford to pay it. But they don't like being forced to give money to the MSEA, a union whose politics they question, a union they haven't joined and don't want representing them. "In my world, when you want service from someone, you hire them. It's a choice," Boatman said.
The union, however, says the service fee is only fair. The MSEA doesn't represent non-union workers directly, but officials say union negotiations lead to higher pay and better benefits for all workers.
"We've been urging most of the people who disagree with us, urging them to join and have their voices heard so they have a say," said Tim Belcher, executive director of the MSEA.
New hires have been required since 2003 to pay a weekly fee or join the union and pay full dues, which are about $9 a week. Other employees were added in 2005 during closed-door contract negotiations between the state and union.
About 200 workers joined the union right away, and another 200 immediately signed up to pay the fee voluntarily. The rest were issued an ultimatum: pay or get fired.
"Mostly people have been paying," Belcher said. "A few hundred have been very adamant against this."
Last session, the Legislature prohibited the state from firing workers because of the fee, but the same bill allowed money to be taken from workers' paychecks without their permission.
Earlier this month, a federal appeals court ruled against 20 employees who had challenged the fee by claiming it violated their constitutional and civil rights. The state set a date to garnish wages.
Belcher hadn't known anyone was quitting until the Sun Journal called Tuesday.
"That's their choice," he said. "But that's really not the way to deal with this. They should get involved."
Mark Turek and Michael Smith have gotten involved - as part of Unfairshare.org. Formed to protest the union fee, the group tried to get the union decertified and fought last session's legislation.
Both men plan to keep fighting. Both are also looking for new jobs.
"I just think it's wrong that people should be forced to pay for something they don't believe in," Smith said.
Smith estimates another 30 to 40 state workers are also planning to leave.
Others want to protest the fee, but quitting isn't an option for them.
"I've spoken with so many people that are so very, very frustrated," Turek said. "I've had people call me in tears."
Shirley LaRuss, a corporate auditor for Maine Revenue Services, lives paycheck-to-paycheck. Battling cancer, she uses any spare money for medical bills and co-pays.
She started paying the union fee, then stopped. The state now says she owes the union about $200 in back payments, plus the fee from now on.
She said she's been notified that $170 - 10 percent of her pay - will be taken from her check on Sept. 20 to help her catch up on money owed.
At 63, she knows she'd have trouble finding another job. And she loves the one she has now.
She just hates paying to keep it.
"I'm resigned (to the fee)," she said. "But it's going to be hard." |
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Posted By:Bunni at August 29, 2007 5:36 AM (Suggest Removal) Why do State workers have to pay a fee if they do not belong to the Union and do not want to belong to a union? Other employers do not do this and I do not think it is right for the MSEA to do it. It should be a choice, not something shoved down your throat and have a threat that you will be fired if you do not join. Tis total Bull CRAP.
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Posted By:Mainah47 at August 29, 2007 5:39 AM (Suggest Removal) Kudos to you Mr. Valcourt! Stand up for your principals! that $260.00 you save each year will buy you peace of mind! Perhaps you could have gone to the union and asked to be directly billed each time they negotiated something that benefitted members. That way,the $5.00 you now save would have looked like a bargain. At least you will kknow the way around state services once you start recieving them.
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Posted By:jimmy hoffa at August 29, 2007 5:50 AM (Suggest Removal) I quite agree with you Bunni.
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Posted By:Mainah47 at August 29, 2007 6:02 AM (Suggest Removal) Bunni, check with people from other unions, as I am quite sure they all have something like this set up.
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Posted By:Mainah47 at August 29, 2007 6:03 AM (Suggest Removal) Or, just negotiate your own benefit package. With lawyers fees topping $200.00 an hour, "THAT" would be a bargain!
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Posted By:ROGER at August 29, 2007 6:27 AM (Suggest Removal) How would Dickie Valcourt like to pay my $400 quarterly dues? I`ve been paying union dues for 37 years and they`re worth every penny.
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Posted By:Rocky at August 29, 2007 6:33 AM (Suggest Removal) The State employees earn alot more than Wal-Mart employees do. Benefits are also a factor, Medical & Dental Insurance, Sick Days or Personal Days off per year, Holiday Pay, Retirement Package, and so on and so on. And for those that have made the choice to retire, trust me; their pensions are great.
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Posted By:Morning Man at August 29, 2007 6:35 AM (Suggest Removal) While not an active union member, I gladly paid my dues for 30 years. Everytime the contract comes up, the state has tried to reduce benefits and wages. The union has been able to preserve most of the reductions the state wanted. For years the union helped employees, emebers and non-members, with grievances they had against management. Mr. Valcourt is cheap and just didn't want to pay for services he received. What a jerk!!!
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Posted By:jay tax payer at August 29, 2007 6:38 AM (Suggest Removal) I don't hear Valcourt complaining about the salary that he has been receiving all these years I'm sure he wouldn't be receiving that if it wan't in part for the MSEA. I didn't read anywhere that he was qualified as a negotiator. I hope there isn't a strike anywhere in the state it would seem that we have a few that would clearly pass through a picket line.
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Posted By:Govts2Big at August 29, 2007 6:38 AM (Suggest Removal) Belcher's comment must be a joke, "They should get involved." For the past two years, many of us have spent countless hours in an attempt to "get involved" and offer ways to solve this large issue. Unfortunately, the MSEA-Baldacci team have no desire to change. They have no desire to offer detailed accountability, and it's nice to see more and more current members are realizing their union is only concerned about one thing - getting more money to fund all of their political and non-bargaining activities. Both MSEA and SEIU have no detailed accountability for their massive expenses, and it's time they are held accountable. In addition, since their democrat friends are also deeply involved in this mess, they too should be penalized.
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Posted By:RANDY at August 29, 2007 6:40 AM (Suggest Removal) These fellas are not "like patriots." They are like the people that went about their business while the patriots fought.I think they will be welcomed to work at Wal-Mart with their strong anti-union feelings. Happy Labor Day.
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Posted By:Rocky at August 29, 2007 7:00 AM (Suggest Removal) MSEA or any other Union has the obligation to protect it's members, whether their lazy or not. A union Contract is exactly that, a Contract...to protect the workers.And as far as paying their service fees to the Union, let's put it this way. How many country clubs let you use their golf course without paying a fee?
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Posted By:we are all humans at August 29, 2007 7:07 AM (Suggest Removal) Unions are currently what is wrong in this country, they are now why nothing is made here, why our health insurance is so high, and why are taxes go up regularly. There is no more honest days work for an honest days pay. It's just what have you done for me!!! Unions at ne time where needed for the greedy owners. Now they are just for the greedy worker. Look oat the next thing you buy and see where it was made. Think on that for awhile.
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Posted By:budman at August 29, 2007 8:09 AM (Suggest Removal) People from Maine have to wise up!Unions are not all bad!Ask the people from out of state,that,s why they all have second homes here!The unions pay scale also helps increase the non union wages!,and at least you all have benefits!
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Posted By:PR at August 29, 2007 8:20 AM (Suggest Removal) Well said Morning Man, Rocky, Roger, Mainah47, Jay Citizen. Do the whiners complain about "fair share" when they take their vacation days, sick days, pay portions (instead of 100%) of their medical benefits or when they get their annual salary increases? Hey, whiners, quit your jobs and see what it's like when you have to plead to your bosses for a raise and benefits all by your lonesome. Nine bucks a week won't seem like it was such a high price to pay after all.
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Posted By:Don at August 29, 2007 8:30 AM (Suggest Removal) I agree budman. If it was'nt for the unions State workers would'nt have half of their benefit package. One that us tax payers pay for I might add.$5 a week is nothing compared what the union has gotten them! Some people just love to ride the coat tails and complain and ask for better benefits during contract negotiation time yet don't want to pay? Thats similar to people whining and complaining about elected officials and what the do or don't do and how bad they do it but don't vote. Its only $5 geez. They should be thankful of what the union has gotten them.If Baldacci had a spine, he would cut jobs in Augusta and get rid of the dead weight now employed by the State. But thats just the view I see from my window
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Posted By:ARP at August 29, 2007 9:17 AM (Suggest Removal) Not everyone in a union makes out well. I was shafted by union members when I worked for the county. They used me as a scapegoat,to get what they wanted.
I retired after 27 years, and the department gave me a letter of reprimand for refusing to train my replacement. They were bullies, and I lost all respect.
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Posted By:Reason at August 29, 2007 9:28 AM (Suggest Removal) I, Reason as someone has already stated that if it were left to the devices of the powers that be there would be little or NO raises, or worse that raises would be based on the friendship or patronage of various individuals who make these decisions. Many years ago, schools systems were run that way and raises were little or none on a yearly basis. As for the state law, I believe that a union MUST represent 50% or 51% or the employees before such actions as "fair share" payments can be initiated. Thus if the majority done want or support a union then this action does happen. There are many reasons to have a union and the most reasonable is the Reduction in Force Provision....which designates how people are laid off, they just can say "Your Fired!" This is still another reason for a union....I reason there are many more that I haven't listed today...Reason it out yourself.
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Posted By:garry at August 29, 2007 9:31 AM (Suggest Removal) your $5 a week can help the MESA fight things like a tax payers bill of rights. How much did they donate against that.
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Posted By:Reason at August 29, 2007 9:38 AM (Suggest Removal) I reason that one more issue needs addressing. Open and closed shops. I would agree that some state laws directly address this issue. However, in Maine strikes are illegal by Teachers and certain branches of local government like police and fire which depend heavily on their contractual agreements. I reason that no one would like to have teachers strike because on contractual issues. In fact monitary issues are NOT negotiable in Maine Cities. In Penn. or at least parts of it, teachers can strike and so can other workers. Do you remember a trash strike in NY several years ago when workers struck and refused to pick up trash for several days... Yes, unions are a positive force if they don't abuse the bargaining process, but such a process is neither fair or reasonable in most states.
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Posted By:Mema at August 29, 2007 9:41 AM (Suggest Removal) Leagalized extortion!
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Posted By:Dogman at August 29, 2007 9:42 AM (Suggest Removal) Gee I wish I had the opportunity to "quit" my job with the kind of guaranteed pension and retiree health benefits these "quitters" ("retirees" is more like it) will enjoy or already are enjoying for the rest of their lives. You think they'd show some gratitude to the union members who made those benefits happen.
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Posted By:Otis at August 29, 2007 9:43 AM (Suggest Removal) "Unions, made in the USA, sure was a good idea, till greed got in the way" Bob Dylan. $40,000 a week collected from state workers for negotiations?
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Posted By:Reason at August 29, 2007 9:45 AM (Suggest Removal) Mr. Val.would have no state retirement to fall back on if there were not unions or labor representatives walking the halls of the legislature in Augusta. Yes, teachers also have retirement plans,Also state workers get their health ins. paid 100% for the individual on retirement, but the poor teachers only get 45%... so there is not a REASON of fairness even in the state between unions.
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Posted By:Reason at August 29, 2007 9:50 AM (Suggest Removal) I reason that various opinions depend on whether you are in a union and realize what they have gotten you for benefits or not... How well would you be able to negotiate for yourself? Bet most people don't know the law regarding negotiations either.
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Posted By:Stuck on Principle at August 29, 2007 10:05 AM (Suggest Removal) I was once a Maine State Employee Association member. I paid dues for many years. I terminated my membership after realizing I no longer had anything in common with the "big union" view. Constant mailings from the union supporting the most liberal candidates for public office who in turn supported pro-choice, gay rights, and consistantly liberal views turned me off. These values are inconsistent with my religious or political views. I sent a letter of resignation detailing my conflicts, however the union never even answered the letter. Now, years later, I face a mandatory payment to an organization that supports what I loathe, pray against, and vote against. My freedoms have been eroded by a liberal governor colluding with the union that is supposed to represent me against the executive branch. There's irony. It is vote buying and political cronyism at its worst. It's time to vote "change" or put the tea in the harbor, Maine.
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Posted By:Todd at August 29, 2007 10:10 AM (Suggest Removal) Unions are all self serving organizations. I don't think that any union belongs in a government work place, let alone being forced to pay a fee to an organization that lost it's use 60+ years ago. Get rid of that Governor, form what i understand he's got a lot to do with it. Check his bank account. Throw the tea in the harbor. This is only the first step in your losing your personal freedom.
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Posted By:Scott at August 29, 2007 10:47 AM (Suggest Removal) The misinformation and union talking points are amazing. Again, the first thing people need to remember is that the union sought the position of being the bargaining agent for all state employees. In doing so, they came in with eyes wide open to the fact that they would represent those who didn't choose to join as well as those who did. It was never a hidden fact and they accepted this. The employees who chose not to join also knew that they had to accept whatever was negotiated, good or bad! That was the trade off. The fee itself is not representative of the negotiations the union says it does for me. It is based on the costs of all the negotiations the union does for all its members, regardless of whether a group is a state agency or not. What is done in negotiating for those groups has nothing to do with me and has no direct effect on what the state is willing to give us in a new contract. Part of the fee goes to the union strike fund...but state employees cannot strike! And the list could go on!
It is sad to see the talent and committed employees like Richard and Harvey leave their jobs due to the selfishness of the union and a governor whose only reason for signing the contract and bill to steal the money from us was for his re-election. Too bad he couldn't stand on his own record to get another term. As the number of workers who do their jobs for the job's sake dwindle, the level of services are certain to diminish.
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Posted By:Smiley at August 29, 2007 10:50 AM (Suggest Removal) Well, perhaps all non-union members who don't pay the fee should now be paid less and have less benefits? Maybe then the non-union members will agree to pay.........
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Posted By:Govts2Big at August 29, 2007 10:53 AM (Suggest Removal) But why should anyone have to pay for something which can't be proven? The MSEA has created and used fraudulent information in their fee calculation process, and this can be proven by their overall lack of detailed accountability. You should have heard their excuses in the last arbitration hearing…it was somewhat entertaining how many times their staff/officers said “I don’t recall that…”
However, when this challenge process goes into the true law court system, the public will see the truth. The questionable business management and accounting practices between MSEA-SEIU Local 1989 and the Baldacci Administration will be exposed... but it's a very slow process.
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Posted By:moose at August 29, 2007 11:00 AM (Suggest Removal) It is all union and state/county/judicial politics. It has been happening everywhere in this state for years and the corupt are getting richer on the working class sweat and teers. The unions were great in the past but due to greed, and the coruption, take a second look especially in the Great State Of Maine.
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Posted By:Jimmy at August 29, 2007 11:41 AM (Suggest Removal) The ONLY way to get MSEA to start acting responsibly is to decertify them, there are a couple baragining units that are currently working on that process now and I think a couple have already done it. MSEA is a pawn of the State, they were PERFECTLY happy to take the horrible deal that the State offered back in Feb and recommended that the members accept it, unfortunately for MSEA their members can read and had a MAJOR uprising that resulted in MSEA backing down and going to the table. Still they were pawns of the government and they accepted another bad deal, but hey they are all driving REALLY nice cars. Drive by their office in Augusta sometime and look at what they drive compared to the people they "represent". MSEA stinks.
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Posted By:DILLIGAF at August 29, 2007 12:14 PM (Suggest Removal) So if the non union worker is not represented by the union then how come the gov't don't keep their pay where it's at or reduce it since they don't have someone to represent them?
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Posted By:Pol at August 29, 2007 12:43 PM (Suggest Removal) This is hardly new law. The issue was settled 30 years ago by the US Supreme Court case Abood v Detroit Board of Education. Only restriction is that fair share fees is reasonable and not used for political lobbying. I am as anti union as they come but whining about the 9 bucks I pay is ridiculous considering the raises the union has negotiated on my and other non union workers behalf.
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Posted By:Skowhegan Dude at August 29, 2007 12:45 PM (Suggest Removal) If you enjoy this paid day off this Labor Day, then thank the unions that fought to get it!!
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Posted By:Robert61 at August 29, 2007 1:24 PM (Suggest Removal) Do you really need unions for most professional jobs in the state government? I think not - they only serve to protect the jobs and make sure everyone gets the best health insurance and other benefits, far exceeding those of the private sector.
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Posted By:bs at August 29, 2007 1:25 PM (Suggest Removal) I have to agree with Bunni, if they don't belong they shouldn't have to pay. Also MSEA does shit for there people. They are only out for themselves and the almighty dollar. I know I use to belong until they didn't fight for me when my drunk boss decided I needed to be lead out by the police for something I didn't say. At least I have income from them and he doesn't as they finally caught him drinking. But MSEA should always remember what goes around comes around..
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Posted By:wenulata at August 29, 2007 2:10 PM (Suggest Removal) I must say I have been a state worker, and the crew that I woerked on had some of the bigeest whiners and laziest SOBs I have ever met. Literaly The joke about how many men does it take to dig a hole... 5 one to hold the shovel, 3 to fight about the right way to do it and 1 to supervise from 15 miles away. And the unions made them this way. Good thing there is a no strike clause in the contract. State workers can not strike but they always seem to be on a work slow down. Yes they are guarentted a raise at least once a year if not twice and merit gets you no where. In fact the only reason you could be fired was for harrassement, fighting, creating a hostile work environment, or stealing state property. These people have no idea what it's in the real world or the civilian sector as they call it. Not all unions are bad and in some cases they are needed and beneficial but MSEA is a joke, they have put state workers in separate catagory of society and they know it. I think that state workers shoudl be granted the state average of wage and benefits and nothing more. they should be just like everyone else.
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Posted By:Govts2Big at August 29, 2007 3:45 PM (Suggest Removal) As they say, "Nothing changes if nothing changes." If Maine residents ever want to fix our massive spending problems in Maine State Government, the MSEA should be the first ones fired.
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Posted By:JOHN at August 29, 2007 3:48 PM (Suggest Removal) I was very disappointed by the new 3 year contract that the union passed recently. I have not had a step increase in years and with the health and dental insurance premiums going up and up where are our raises to compensate for these added expenses! It seems to me our income is not keeping up with the added expenses so where is our union representation!!!
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Posted By:barbara at August 29, 2007 3:50 PM (Suggest Removal) you forgot to mention the union's donation to the democratic party!
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Posted By:Robert at August 29, 2007 4:03 PM (Suggest Removal) In 2003, there were 9,666 paying dues members in SEIU Local 1989(this is taken from their reports which they are required submit) and these members paid $3,650,383 in dues for that single year. The union contract is a two year contract, so over two years the union has amassed over $7 million dollars. True, some of that goes to MSEA employees and overhead. But you would figure at least $5 million of that would be left over to negotiate a half decent contract. Not this past time though, unless you call a 0% raise good. Well, it is good... for the tax payers of the state. There is something to be said for that.
This is how the union negotiates:
Union: we want a 10% raise for all employees.
State: no
Union: we want a 4% raise for all employees.
State: no.
Union: Okay, we'll take 0%, require everyone to join and endorse whatever democrat you put up for election.
State: I knew you'd come around to our way of thinking.
At a previous job I was a full fledged union member and wouldn't have had it any other way because it was a very strong union that negotiated excellent contracts. The state union is weak; they can't strike and they sure as heck can't negotiate.
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Posted By:Skip at August 29, 2007 4:20 PM (Suggest Removal) From what I always understood most unions are closed shop,meaning you either joined the union or you didn't work there.Plain and simple.I know for a fact that was how it was at Bates Fabrics and the textile union.
If people feel slighted because they now have to pay should get out and get a job where you have to fight for your rights.For less than 5 bucks a week your're missing out on a bargain.At least it will create more jobs for people.
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Posted By:Govts2Big at August 29, 2007 4:43 PM (Suggest Removal) Here's an example of how the MSEA's international affiliate (SEIU) spent $265,000 for Maine politics in 2006 (the Democratic Party and the anti-TABOR fight).
SERVICE EMPLOYEES/SEIU
Total Given to Date: $265,000 (5 records)
Address: WASHINGTON, DC 20005
Breakdown by Political Affiliation
MAINE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
$50,000 09/11/2006
MAINE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
$50,000 10/12/2006
MAINE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
$25,000 06/27/2006
CITIZENS WHO SUPPORT MAINES PUBLIC SCHOOLS
$100,000 10/03/2006
CITIZENS WHO SUPPORT MAINES PUBLIC SCHOOLS
$40,000 10/25/2006
SOURCE: http://www.followthemoney.org
Money in state politics plays a pivotal role in shaping public policy in individual states and across the nation. The nonpartisan National Institute on Money in State Politics tracks contributions in all 50 states and makes this data easily searchable online.
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Posted By:MARTHA at August 29, 2007 5:49 PM (Suggest Removal) I hate to be the one to burst the bubble of those of you who are so adoring of your unions... however..... I have ALL those benefits you list, and guess what.. I don't give any corrupt union one dime of my money. I have never worked a full time job that didn't provide me with benefits.
OH, and Don, first you praise the union, then turn right around and complain about the deadwood.. sorry, you can't have it both ways.. you either want the union and all the deadwood they protect, or you want to get rid of the deadwood, but in order to do so, you'd have to get rid of the union.
Jay citizen, if I had any desire to live in Maine again, you betcha I'd cross a pickett line. If you don't want your job at the kind of wages you were making, I'll be happy to take it.
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Posted By:jack at August 29, 2007 7:16 PM (Suggest Removal) A few, Just the facts, big one here, when you retire from the state at 62 or 65 the state does not pay any health insurance for you, medicare is aviable to you, so the state stops your insurance healthcare.
Another one, even if you have enough ss quarters in to collect the MSR deducts money from you, Maine is one of the few states that will not allow ss payments and MSR payments. You as a worker will forfit money.
Paying the dues is minor, being forced to eat crap is not good.
How much does the pres. of the union make a year? And then look at the average pay for a state worker, it will blow your mind away.
Iam not a state worker, I work for myself, most of my customers work for the state and I see both sides.
Even those who pay dues I hear them say the union is useless.
Remember when the state closed liquior stores and people were told they would to bump other people to get a job. Well the union and the state made a deal, you could only bump in the county that you worked in. Strange .
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Posted By:Govts2Big at August 29, 2007 7:51 PM (Suggest Removal) Yes indeed, their salaries are way above average for Maine. For example, here are some of the numbers reported by the Dept. of Labor website (Form LM-2,
http://erds.dol-esa.gov) --
2006 Total Employee Disbursements by MSEA-SEIU Local 1989
--> Total Employee Disbursements by MSEA for 2006 alone: $1,599,186 Plus benefits...
1. RONALD AHLQUIST, FIELD REPRESENTATIVE at $77,662 //
2. TIMOTHY BELCHER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR at $90,093 //
3. STEVEN BUTTERFIELD, DIR OF INFORMATION SACS at $70,040 //
4. STEVEN BUTTERFIELD, II, ORGANIZER at $27,265 //
5. CHESTER HILLIER, ASST NEGOTIATOR at $64,867 //
6. SUSAN MITCHELL, POLITICAL DIRECTOR at $79,007 //
7. PAMELA MORIN, FIELD REPRESENTATIVE at $63,393 //
8. MELISSA POWELL, STAFF ASSISTANT at $33,836 //
9. C PATRICK REARDON, FIELD REPRESENTATIVE at $68,591 //
10. STEPHANIE VON GLINSKY, FIELD REPRESENTATIVE at $59,189 //
11. HARVEY CARR, FIELD REPRESENTATIVE at $74,905 //
12. ROBERTA DE ARAUJO, GENERAL COUNSEL at $74,176 //
13. THOMAS FARKAS, COMM/TRAINING COORD at $55,798 //
14. DIANE GOODALL-SHARPE, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT at $47,941 //
15. JOHN GRAHAM, DIR OF FIELD SERVICES at $77,052 //
16. DEBRA ROY, STAFF ASSISTANT at $35,189.
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Posted By:ROGER at August 29, 2007 8:57 PM (Suggest Removal) Hey MARTHA, I hope you never have a desire to return to Maine, we don`t need any more SCABS like you around.
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Posted By:Robert at August 29, 2007 9:57 PM (Suggest Removal) Hey ROGER, if unions were so great, they wouldn't MAKE workers join; the benefits would be so good people would join voluntarily. That's the way the free market should work. If you have a superior product or service, I will buy it. Otherwise I will go somewhere else. One problem with the state union is the sheeple in the union can't think for themselves and just let Belcher, Graham, et al keep doing the same thing instead of firing them and replacing them with people with fresh ideas and a willingness to listed to the folks farther down in the food chain.
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Posted By:Scott at August 29, 2007 10:56 PM (Suggest Removal) Robert, you are right! Dana Graham has stated that this addition of members makes the union stronger. What he leaves out is that it has nothing to do with improving position in negotiating contracts. It just enhances their perceived clout in the political arena.
A big question for Belcher and Graham, etal....if the fee payers are paying for the negotiation of contracts, why are we denied the right to vote on them? I'd guess that the vote of "no-confidence" would be too high! Another question to the Union and all their hacks: If this union is so good, why not open up a vote to everyone about whether they want to keep this "fine" group as our negotiating agent or go with an alternative like AGEM? Afraid of the competition? Afraid that AGEM would win out? If I'm doing the best job possible, I don't worry about such things. Some food for thought!
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Posted By:Govts2Big at August 30, 2007 7:02 AM (Suggest Removal) Dan has raised a very good point, and that is exactly what happened in the following case: Wessel v. Albuquerque at http://www.kscourts.org/ca10/cases/2006/09/04-2212.htm. I'd like to pursue this approach against MSEA, as these two cases are almost identical with regard to the union's lack of detailed accountability.
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Posted By:MARTHA at August 31, 2007 9:24 PM (Suggest Removal) Hey Roger, don't be so greedy and you won't have to worry about "scabs" like me... don't worry your little head about it.. I'm quite content with the job I have. I don't need a union "looking out" for me. Since I do my job, and do it well, I have job security. In most cases, that can be said for anyone who has any kind of work ethic.
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Posted By:Greg at September 1, 2007 11:15 AM (Suggest Removal) I would like to commend Mr. Valcourt for having the courage to make this decision. People HAVE the right to choose who they work for and what they pay for. The special interest groups, in this case unions are running out of money to pay lobbyists so they need non union money.The state made the choice to pay all employees the same. I think the state should step up and pay non union members 5 cents an hour more than onionized workers. This of course is not to pay for the " service fee" but to allow the workers the ability to say the union did nothing for us now we don't need to pay thier "fee".
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