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New state debit cards concern child care providers

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Friday, September 21, 2007

On Oct. 1, the state will stop using voucher management agencies to dole out child care subsidies and will instead give parents debit cards to pay for day care themselves.

The state says the change will save about $1 million and make the program more efficient.

But child care providers worry parents will spend their state aid on everything but day care.

"We're talking lots of money. Lots and lots of money," said Anne F. Craigs, executive director of the YWCA in Lewiston.

The YWCA cares for 100 children a day. Full-time care costs an average $140 a week. About half of the parents sending kids there get state help.

"It doesn't sound like, at least from what I can see, the state has done anything to prepare the (subsidy) recipients," Craigs said. "It's like a debit card. They hand them a debit card."

Maine began using the cards in 2003, when it got rid of paper food stamps in favor of electronic transfers. Since then, the state has done the same thing for rent, electricity, travel and other expenses paid for low-income people. Child care is the last state subsidy to move to debit cards. For some families, it will be the largest amount they get from the state.

The average food stamp allotment is $238 a month for a family with children, for example. The average child care subsidy is $420 a month.

Families qualify for child care assistance by meeting income guidelines and by working or attending school. They also typically receive some form of financial education.

Between 2,000 and 2,500 Mainers get child care help.

The state had contracted with 11 voucher management agencies to deal with child care providers and pay the bills. Maine will cut out that middleman, loading debit cards with money and making parents responsible for paying the day care bill each week.

"They're not the providers' benefits. They're the parents' benefits," said Barb Van Burgel, director of the Office of Integrated Access and Support, which determines who gets assistance for the Department of Health and Human Services.

Providers agree the benefits belong to parents. But they would also like to be paid, and they aren't sure they can always count on parents - newly flush with cash - to do that.

"It's a little scary," said Erica Longchamps, director of Lever's Day Care Center in Lewiston. "We need to have everyone pay or we just can't stay open."

Her center cares for 170 children. About 110 get state aid.

DHHS officials say fraud has been rare with the debit cards used for food, rent and other expenses, with just two cases of misuse in the past two years.

But unlike food stamp debit cards, which are locked against use at places that don't sell food, child care debit cards will be open for use anywhere. To guard against theft, officials say child care providers can report to DHHS when parents haven't paid for child care. Those parents could lose all benefits and could be required to pay any unpaid child care bills out of their own pocket.

"The families we serve really don't want to lose their benefit," Van Burgel said.

DHHS officials believe the debit cards will be a good thing. Parents won't have to worry about the stigma of state assistance because they can pay for care directly, just like all the other families. Providers can get paid the Friday before the new week rather than waiting weeks for a check, as they did with voucher management agencies. And if providers are very concerned about not getting paid, officials said, they can require parents to sign up for automatic payments that are withdrawn electronically.

That's what Androscoggin Head Start plans to do. But Sharon Philbrook Bergeron, grant and budget specialist, worries parents will simply leave Head Start for a day care center that doesn't require automatic withdrawal.

"And they'll lose the quality of service they get from us," she said.

DHHS plans to monitor the debit card program over the year and tweak it as necessary.

In the meantime, Craigs has a strategy for her YWCA child care center. All children can attend on Friday, Sept. 28. All can attend Monday, Oct. 1.

But not after that, not without payment.

"We're going to be at the front door with a clipboard Tuesday morning," she said.

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Posted By:vicki at September 21, 2007 5:06 AM (Suggest Removal)
so what happens if the parent stops bringing the kid to daycare altogether is the state going to check that too? dont think it hasnt been done leaving babies home alone. some people have no morals and kids are just a paycheck.

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Posted By:Jane at September 21, 2007 6:04 AM (Suggest Removal)
I am one of those single moms that recieve assistance fromAspire with child care. I am really offended. Just because the childcare money is put on a card in my name doesn't mean that I will "steal" that money from my child care provider any quicker than a women that doesn't recieve help. The parents that recieve help from the DHHS are no different for them that are more fortunate and don't recieve help. We are just as trustworthy. I don't like being in my sitation and if my childrens father wasn't such a dead beat and gave more than $20.00 a week to bring up 2 children, maybe I could make it on my 1 income. I don't consider myself a thief because I am going through a rough time and have to get financial hep.

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Posted By:budman at September 21, 2007 6:39 AM (Suggest Removal)
Bad idea watch,and see what happens to that money!

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Posted By:we are all humans at September 21, 2007 6:56 AM (Suggest Removal)
the parents are having money issues if the state is already paying for their children in daycares. I run a daycare and feel that this will be a huge problem because I know that I won't get my money if the payment goes to the parents first...then what is the state going to do, if all these daycares terminate their contracts with the state????????BIG PROBLEM

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Posted By:MadMainer at September 21, 2007 7:08 AM (Suggest Removal)
"Parents won't have to worry about the stigma of state assistance because they can pay for care directly, just like all the other families." Excuse me, they're paying for it? No, I believe myself and all other working Mainers are paying for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! More examples of liberal media.

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Posted By:Just a thought at September 21, 2007 7:16 AM (Suggest Removal)
Day care providers should be paid directly....

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Posted By:j at September 21, 2007 7:16 AM (Suggest Removal)
First I want to comment on MadMainer's comment. In order for these parents to get a child care voucher they have guidelines. The parent or parents have to be going to school,working or volunteering a certain numbers of hours per week. So to your comment that they are not paying for daycare, you and others are-get a life. Most of these parents are working hard either at a job or at school to further their education to get a good job. If there weren't so many dead beat parents who don't pay child support a lot of the other parents who are taking care of the kids wouldn't be on the voucher program. Just like Jane wrote in a previous comment, if she got more than $20 a week to bring up two kids she may be able to support her kids on her income.Lets think about that for a minute. If Jane gets $20 a week that is $80 a month and $960 a year. Who can raise one child on $960 a year, let alone two... I would like to pat all those hard working parents on back. So what if they need a little bit of help. I think just about everyone at one point in their lives need a little help money wise. People should be happy the state is going to save money doing it this way. Good luck you the daycare providers on getting your payments, I think for the most part you will, but there is always those bad apples. And last of all good luck to those parents, just remember with all your hard work today someday it will all pay off and you won't need this help anymore!!!

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Posted By:anon at September 21, 2007 7:20 AM (Suggest Removal)
I was in a store the other day and observed a child going through the checkout with his parents card to pay for treats...yeah, that's demostrating that they are trustworthy...listen, i grew up on welfare and in a welfare culture-there are few people like Jane who are being honest...most think the benefits are an entitlement and they use and abuse the system to whatever extent possible. dignity and pride come from working...not sitting at home making babies and drinking pepsi. the childcare benefit encourages women to work instead of sitting around and it should continue but the recipient should NOT see the money...the provider should.

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Posted By:vicki at September 21, 2007 7:36 AM (Suggest Removal)
my earlier comment was not an insult to all who recieve assistance but there is abuse in every system. If you can find a way to abuse it rest assured someone will.

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Posted By:Anon at September 21, 2007 7:56 AM (Suggest Removal)
I don't see why they would have to use debit cards. There are other cost saving ways to get the childcare providers their money than using a 3rd party service. Instead of moving money to a debit card that has the possibility of being misused by dishonest people, why can't they use electronic transfer to the providers instead. I can safely say that the foodstamp debit cards are misused more than the 2 times in 2 years they say. I see my husbands ex do it every month by letting other people use her card for food and takes the reduced amount of cash in return. She uses the cash for cigarettes, cell phone bills and things for her self and not her kids. We pay her a lot of child support every week that hardly ever gets used for the kids. She is one of the dishonest ones.

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Posted By:ME2 at September 21, 2007 8:19 AM (Suggest Removal)
There are dishonest people out there but not every person who gets state aid is. People who get their child care paid for have to be working or going to school, its part of the guidelines for getting that bennefit. I think we'll find more likely than not that people will pay.

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Posted By:MadMainer at September 21, 2007 8:25 AM (Suggest Removal)
Uh, yeah, you don't think the Aspire programs, etc. are abused. I went to a technical school (paid for by myself) and heard of all the scams to stay in that program, enroll for 1 class at a time, then don't complete the class, but they're still on the program...there are tons of way to scam it and OBVIOUSLY not everyone on programs such as this are scammers; HOWEVER, I think a good point is to not make babies with bums. Okay so you have 1 baby with a no-good person, don't you know by now they're a loser? so you go ahead and make another? There are WAY too many people in Maine making babies they know they cannot afford and expect everyone else to pick up the tab - I'm sick of it.

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Posted By:Heather C at September 21, 2007 8:34 AM (Suggest Removal)
Unfortunately Jane and other responsible people are the minority who will use welfare for a transition not a permanant free ride. You can only take comfort in knowing that those who abuse it will always be losers. Unfortunately they then rely on the contributers. Those of us who have been able to support ourselves without state help will always have better lives and more to live for than a free ride.

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Posted By:ojhuig at September 21, 2007 8:35 AM (Suggest Removal)
My ex was a deadbeat and I worked my tail off to make up for it. But then I was 25 when my son was born so that may be the difference right there. Where else on the planet do you take someone who has made bad decisions like having babies as a teen or having multiple children with men who won't support them, hand her a bunch of cash and make her the head of a household? Who cares about stigma? How much of this money is going to go right to the boyfriend or the piercing parlor? Let teen moms practice with their own money, not mine. The children are the ones who will suffer, because the good child care centers can't keep them if they don't get paid.

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Posted By:cee at September 21, 2007 8:40 AM (Suggest Removal)
Why cant the state see that paying the daycare providers weekly thru the program would be so much easier... Banking now is done with the touch of a button. If the daycare is on the state registry, then the state can give the debit cards to the daycare provider. Or have it directly deposited in there account. I have heard so many things on how these people fraud the state on there foodstamp cards...and trust me there has been more than 2 incidences the state has dealt with....I do not believe that statement one bit. The state better get a clue and do some research and investigate where all ""OUR"" money has gone. Quite honestly I feel the Debit cards for food and TANF should have there face on the card or be used with another form of photo I.D........ Cause as someone stated earlier they are sold.Someone will always find a way to screw someone else. I laugh when the DHHS said they would lose there benefits and have to pay it back..hahahaha Ya they will pay it back. after they get a FREE LAWYER, FREE AID and then pay the state back with there own money...errr um I mean ""OURS"

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Posted By:we are all humans at September 21, 2007 9:00 AM (Suggest Removal)
I know where the money goes, it goes to the somalie's and making sure there 8 to 12 kids are fed properly and that they can get to their free doctors appointments in their new cars....

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Posted By:MadMainer's Point at September 21, 2007 9:41 AM (Suggest Removal)
Just to emphasize MadMainer's point, the SJ is irresponsible in saying that these recipients are paying for Daycare. Whether or not this is a good program is irrelevant, it may be a very good program and encourage recipients to work and/or go to school, but it should be clear that they are not paying for day care, we taxpayers are. If they are using it as a hand up to better themselves, great, but we should not allow the media to help distort the reality of who is really paying for this. Another note, if the child care provider did not previously take debit cards for payment they will now have to incur additional costs just to process these payments and will make less profit as a result.

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Posted By:reggie at September 21, 2007 10:02 AM (Suggest Removal)
Why do these people need child care, to stay at home and make more babies.

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Posted By:bob at September 21, 2007 10:21 AM (Suggest Removal)
People are very uneducated about how state aid works. i recieve these services for child care because i get no help from my childrens father. without this program i won't be able to work, and i love my job and my children have great places to go during the day to learn while i am working hard to provide for them.Its my responsibility to provide and for those teachers at daycares to get paid the way they deserve to be for caring for my wonderful children. I pay my taxes so i dont see it as people are paying our way.

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Posted By:ME2 at September 21, 2007 10:22 AM (Suggest Removal)
Everyone is saying it's their money that pays for these people to have their kids in daycare. If the people who recieve this aid are working dont they pay taxes as well? Doesnt that mean they pay for some of it? As far as people having babies with deadbeats, its not the mothers fault that the guy wont take care of his responsibity.

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Posted By:MadMainer at September 21, 2007 10:33 AM (Suggest Removal)
Most likely if people qualify for state aid they are not paying income taxes, they most likely also qualify for Earned Income Credit which means when they get their taxes back they get thousands of dollars handed to them with having nothing withheld from their own paychecks, or they get everything they had withheld back plus extra money (my money and contributing members of society's money). Again, it should be know before one produces a child with someone if that someone is responsible or not - again, not my responsibility to raise someone else's mistake.

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Posted By:ME2 at September 21, 2007 10:41 AM (Suggest Removal)
Anyone who makes less than 38,000 a year is eligible for earned income credit.

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Posted By:ME2 at September 21, 2007 10:56 AM (Suggest Removal)
Let me clarify my last post, anyone who makes under 38,000 a year and has a qualifying child is eligible for earned income credit. That probably means most of the people posting on here also dont have to pay taxes and get "thousands of dollars handed to them with having nothing withheld from their own paychecks"

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Posted By:jj at September 21, 2007 11:05 AM (Suggest Removal)
absolutely horrible idea! hasnt the state learned a darn thing about the way they run things yet! stop being so lazy and keep sending vouchers to daycares yourselves! not all, but believe me MOST will abuse this like they do every other benefit on the system. Ive seen this first hand for years from several people in know who are part of the system and will never be anything else. it becomes a way of life and thats the only thing they know. RETHINK THIS!

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Posted By:Streaker from '76 at September 21, 2007 11:15 AM (Suggest Removal)
pure insanity at DHHS... once again folks are looking at penny-wise but pound-foolish. Electronic payment to the Daycare provider is SO much more efficient, and abuse-proof than this debit card system. Also, it's very probable that many of the smaller daycare providers aren't currently set up to take credit/debit cards and this will provide a hardship for them as they'll have to pay to acquire those services. Helping to get needy parents a head start while they improve themselves is fine, when that's what's happening. My issue is that this program as now instituted is no better than just having all recipients stopping by the bank once a month and picking up $420 CASH, because that's what a debit card basically is.. To the honest ones, it won't matter. To the dishonest ones, or those 'on the fence', this will be a disaster, like offering a drink to an alcoholic that's stopped drinking. I would urge ALL daycare providers to adopt Ms. Craig's decision. Payment in advance, or i don't watch your child, or at least get payment at the end of each week. don't wait until the end of the month, or you're very likely to get burned by the abusers, and at that point, they've not only screwed you out of your payment, but also screwed all of us by blowing our taxpayer monies. To parents utilizing state aid to get ahead, I applaud you. To the state DHHS that provides the monies, shame on you for not taking better care of my tax money.

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Posted By:JulieL at September 21, 2007 11:32 AM (Suggest Removal)
Hey "True American" take off your white hooded robe and read a book or two. The Somali immigrants aren't your cross to bare, so to speak. Did you read about the meeting last month at the Franco American Center? The Mayor DISPELLED THE FREE CAR RUMOR! I knew you and the likes of you would be commenting on this story. When a man or a woman walk away from the responsibility of helping to raise their kids, it is the responsibility of government to step in amke sure the kids are feed and housed. I can count on both hands the number of young white families who received welfare and all the kids are thriving, not rich, not taking vacations, not dressed in the finest, but doing GREAT in school and at least a few of them are going on to college and all of them will be productive citizens, your neighbors, marry your grandchildren etc. Let the state try this new approach, they can always go back to the old system. I would just worry about the young mothers who have to make a choice between food, rent or the child care payment....

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Posted By:HMMMMM at September 21, 2007 11:44 AM (Suggest Removal)
I to, have seen more than just the "2" a year abused in the program... I personally know of a few people who have given their EBT card to someone to use each month as payment for their cell phone bill that is on this other person's account!!! This person uses the EBT for her own personal use, and then puts the cash in, (mnd you, it's more than 50% of what's available on the foodstamp end)... Food stamp, $110.00.. cell phone bill $75.00. So don't tell me that it'll be more cost effective!! Either way you look at it, where there's a will, there's a way.. somebody WILL abuse those debit cards and they certainly will NOT be used for daycare costs!!! I agree that there should be a fund transfer of some sort that goes DIRECTLY to the child care provider rather than putting the money at the hands of those parents. I agree that not all welfare recipients abuse the system, but there is a higher percentage of people who DO abuse it... go into any bar room the beginning of the month and take a look around.. you can tell just by the way those people look that they are welfare willybags who are just abusing the system so they can drink and have their cigarettes!! The State of Maine really isn't being too smart on this one!!!

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Posted By:Georgia at September 21, 2007 12:00 PM (Suggest Removal)
It's is good for people who really need it but two cases in two years of abuse?? I find that hard to believe... there is someone that abused it and never no matter how many times it was reported have they been reprimanded for it

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Posted By:Georgia at September 21, 2007 12:06 PM (Suggest Removal)
Sorry I meant they have not been reprimanded she too lets other use the card they giver her cash, and she uses it for booze, and cigs the kids are now with us and we've heard through them that she didn't buy groceries for weeks they would scrounge up some change to buy a wrap at mcdonalds and share it ther were three children. Again nothing done to her... And my husband paid child support each week.

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Posted By:toby at September 21, 2007 12:33 PM (Suggest Removal)
bad idea the state should come up with a better idea than that............. once i was a bar tender..... on the second of every month. myself and the others that worked there called it that day ,[mother's day]thats the day child wefare came in.the only night of the month the mother could afford to go out. i dont know how they ever made out . because there were times they spent the whole check. don't do it your way . your giving them an open book.

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Posted By:jv at September 21, 2007 12:35 PM (Suggest Removal)
wow, lots of welfare cases 'working hard' to provide for their families. good thing there are people like me who area also working hard to provide for their families. yeah, I can see that there are situations where someone might need some help but this state breeds the welfare culture and has for a long time. how else do you think the liberals stay in power other than by giving more and more to the welfare class to buy their vote.

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Posted By:ME2 at September 21, 2007 3:31 PM (Suggest Removal)
Im sure these women knew the guy was going to be a deadbeat. Give me a break!

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Posted By:just me at September 21, 2007 3:36 PM (Suggest Removal)
Do you people actually believe that people on assistance sit around smoking and watching soap operas all day? Seriously?! In actuality, you can't just sit on your arse and collect welfare benefits anymore. 30 hours per week of work/volunteer time is required in order to receive that big fat check of $485 per month. People are missing the punt, here. The article points out that the goal is to shift responsibility away from the state, and onto the client- by way of them paying their own child care expenses as they occur. It is good preparation. My children are older so I do not receive this child care help, but I can't imagine for the life of me .. anyone doing what you people INSIST will happen- the monies being foolishly spent and the parent then finding themselves out of a job and therefore their benefits cut. Think about that.

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Posted By:HMMMMM at September 21, 2007 3:45 PM (Suggest Removal)
I can not believe all the BS that the state of Maine causes. Another reader was very correct in stating that this state is breeding grounds for welfare people... BUT, what people neglect to remember is that the new law states that a person can only collect TANF for 5 years.. that's for a lifetime.... not for each kid you have.. so if these lazy welfare women use it all up in 5 years time, then those children will have to suffer for their mother/father's laziness!! On the note of "deadbeat".. well, surely those mothers weren't thinking "deadbeat" when they made those children that didn't ask to be concieved!!!

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Posted By:Fraud at September 21, 2007 4:31 PM (Suggest Removal)
To those of you that keep mentioning that you have noticed or observed the more than 2 people that have abused the new EBT system, have you taken it upon yourself when witnessing these moments of fraud to call the state and report that someone is using their benefits fraudulently???? Step up as a "tax payer" and report fraud as it happening, it is your responsibility to report it as much as it is the recipients’ responsibility to use their benefits appropriately. Too many people complain of fraud happening all around them but don’t report it!!

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Posted By:ojhuig at September 21, 2007 5:23 PM (Suggest Removal)
I didn't make the state step in and support my child just because I married badly. My child is NOT the taxpayers' responsibility. Julie, you have an entitlement mindset. Where do you think the money comes from? The other working people. I had to sweat out daycare every single day because of a shortage of providers for my disabled child. Yet I somehow did it. Shame on you for passing your responsibility onto the working people.

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Posted By:black hawk at September 21, 2007 5:47 PM (Suggest Removal)
ive watched right here in lewiston several people offord me there ebt card for 50 cents on a dollar hell i love the foodstamp card i just send the degenerate to store and shop for me and make 100 worth of food for 50 dollars i even had one guy that told me he wanted to give his city voucher from city of lewiston for two 40 ouce beers so i gave him 6 dollars for two 40 oz beers and he bought me 30 dollars wiorth of house hold goods another i sold him a dvd player for two months of stamps so i got the dvd player from pawn shop for 20 dollars and sold it on credit for 280 dollars worth of food i even asked the city voucher guy why doesnt he just get a job he said its easier to geta city slip cause he owed child support 16 years ago and every dime he makes on the books they take from him so he decided just not work cause the state of maine is easy

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Posted By:just me at September 21, 2007 6:02 PM (Suggest Removal)
Jeff- I know many women that volunteer in order to meet Aspire requirements. It helps gain skills and experience. Or would you prefer that people stayed in minimum wage, dead-end crap jobs (which will keep qualifying them for welfare)?

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Posted By:MadMainer at September 21, 2007 6:22 PM (Suggest Removal)
My mother-in-law has been in the Aspire program for SEVERAL years now - shouldn't she have gained some skills by now? She tells me there are people in that program that have been on for I believe 10 years! I don't know if the MIL receives food stamps but I know they get free oil, reduced phone, reduced electricity in the winter, free health care, etc.

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Posted By:NANCY at September 21, 2007 7:18 PM (Suggest Removal)
And what about MaineCare child clients living with both parents in a 300K house with a mortgagae which does well exceeds even the 200% above poverty level. And, with all the frills (ATVs, new cars etc) - how do we report them? There is something wrong here...

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Posted By:Mom of a victim at September 21, 2007 8:06 PM (Suggest Removal)
Obviously this is a hot topic. You can bet that I will enforce payment each Monday morning-no excuses! Yes, there are honest parents that are trying to get back on their feet. Yes, there are also parents that feel entitled to these benefits and drive around in cars that are more than their rent. This has always disturbed me in the 20 years that I have run childcare centers. Providers need to be strict and not allow these parents to abuse the system. It is extra work for us but necessary in order not to be left with a huge deficit. Yes, we the taxpayers and business owners are paying for these people to have this benefit- it is up to us to monitor, report and enforce any known abuse of it. I will now treat these parents as I do all the private pay parents and expect full payment of Monday a.m. each week-no exceptions!

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Posted By:ME2 at September 21, 2007 9:53 PM (Suggest Removal)
Everyone has someone they know that abuses the system. Why dont you report them? You cant really get on this blog and complain when you arent even willing to report fraud when its done in front of your own face. And to Jeff, my sister was married and had 4 kids. Her husband died very unexpectedly so how is she supposed to work to support those kids? She gets state aid for the day care and goes to school full time. Do you really think she can afford to not pay her daycare? She is trying to make a good life for her and her children. You people never think of these things when your sitting up there on your high horse. You need to realize that not everyone who gets aid is a loser.

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