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Posted By:Nancy at March 6, 2008 7:33 AM (Suggest Removal)
My condolences to the family. Such a tragedy.
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Posted By:resident at March 6, 2008 7:43 AM (Suggest Removal)
Hopefully they dont treat the family guilty. Such a tragedy. My prayers are with mom and dad. To think that something like this can happen when you are so sure you are doing the right thing. Accidents like this happen all the time and us parents that for granted. Let this be an eye opener for the rest of us!
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Posted By:MATTHEW at March 6, 2008 8:04 AM (Suggest Removal)
Depending on the age of the baby, it'd be hard to blame the mom for falling asleep. Anyone with kids remembers what it was like in those first few months. NO SLEEP.
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Posted By:DIONNE at March 6, 2008 8:43 AM (Suggest Removal)
Praying for this family - so very sad
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Posted By:Blue Eyes at March 6, 2008 9:00 AM (Suggest Removal)
What a horrible sad tragedy! My thoughts and prayers go out to this family..especially the Mom! The horrible feelings she must now carry! I can not even imagine how she feels. God Bless all of you!
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Posted By:Darlene at March 6, 2008 9:11 AM (Suggest Removal)
I UNDERSTAND BEING TIRED WHEN YOU HAVE A BABY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHAT WAS THE MOTHER DOING SLEEPING WHILE HER BABY WAS IN THE BATH TUB. YOU NEVER EVER LEAVE A BABY ALONE IN A BATH TUB.
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Posted By:PAUL at March 6, 2008 9:28 AM (Suggest Removal)
What a tragedy this is so sad prayers with all
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Posted By:Toodles at March 6, 2008 9:35 AM (Suggest Removal)
DJ...did you even stop to think that the mother was taking a bath WITH the baby and fell asleep. It happens, we adults fall asleep in a nice warm bath. Especially if you've been sleep deprived which sometimes happens with babies. My sincere condolences to mom & dad. Please support each other at this awful time.
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Posted By:K at March 6, 2008 9:50 AM (Suggest Removal)
It is a VERY SAD situation. If the mother was truly that tired, especially at 7pm, why wouldn't she have asked for help or for dad to come watch the baby while she took a bath.It says the baby's father was on his way to the home after he learned of the drowning. I do not feel it was a matter of being tired. I think there is more involved and if so, then justice should be served. It says the mother then tried to take her life. Was it because she woke up and realized her baby was dead or was she trying to end both of their lives and this was the easiest way to do it? There are so many people in this world who want kids, try so hard to have children and they can't. Then there are ones who have them and are very irresponsible. It's truly a shame. I feel bad for dad. May God be with him.
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Posted By:Blue Eyes at March 6, 2008 9:55 AM (Suggest Removal)
Yes there are often times a horrible tragedy could have been avoided...BUT...this mother feels bad enough and will have to carry this with her forever. How about us all,instead of casting judgement, support her and her husband and family. I have no children but can not began to fathom what they are going through. Again, God Bless this family.
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Posted By:Blue Eyes at March 6, 2008 11:20 AM (Suggest Removal)
After reading your comment, Isabelle,and thinking about it, I agree with you. I don't know where the mother fell asleep, but if she'd been that tired, then I think she should not have attempted to give the baby a bath. But I do feel bad for the father. He,according to the article, was not home when this happened.
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Posted By:kim at March 6, 2008 12:16 PM (Suggest Removal)
I live a stones throw away from where this tradedy happened...Its all so sad, The baby (Zack) was only 3 1/2 months old, he didn't really have a voice in the matter, I think you'll find that there might of been foul play here. The parents are not married, the mom is single, the dad showed up after he recieved a call saying there was a problem with the child. He was not on his way home, he didn't live with the mom and Zack...My heart is filled with sadness for baby Zack, no baby deserves to be treated in such a manner...
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Posted By:Darlene at March 6, 2008 12:16 PM (Suggest Removal)
MY COMMENT GOES BACK TO BETTY. I AM A MOTHER OF 2 KIDS AND NEVER HAVE TAKEN EITHER OF MY KIDS INTO THE TUB WITH ME WHILE I WAS TIRED. THATS JUST DUMB. WHEN YOU ARE A REAL MOTHER YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS YOUR BABY AND DOING A STUID ACT LIKE TAKING YOUR BABY WITH YOU INTO A BATHTUB WHILE YOUR TIRED IS JUST IRRESPONSIBLE.THATS WHY THEY SELL BABY CHAIRS TO HOLD YOUR BABY WHILE YOU (THE PARENT)IS BATHING.
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Posted By:CB at March 6, 2008 12:20 PM (Suggest Removal)
I dont know this family what so ever but I do know that it is outragous for for anyone to judge this family! c'mon...have we forgotten what its like to hold our children so close that you feel like nothing else in the world matters...dont any of you know or remeber that love? good god people! i am 1000000% sure this was an accident...oh my god...this mom will never be the same..my heart is aching with grief for her...and so should yours, not every tragic story has to have a bad guy.
my thoughts and prayers are with this family.
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Posted By:CB at March 6, 2008 12:26 PM (Suggest Removal)
you guys are stupid...she was holding the baby 4 months old...and fell asleep in the tub! what is wrong with you people????? god forbid an accident happens in your pathetic judgmental lives IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!
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Posted By:Reader at March 6, 2008 1:32 PM (Suggest Removal)
No matter what happened it is SO SAD!!
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Posted By:ojhuig at March 6, 2008 1:50 PM (Suggest Removal)
I never got in the tub with my little one, but there were times when I could have fallen asleep right there by the tub while holding him. Let's not judge without the facts.
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Posted By:anon at March 6, 2008 2:27 PM (Suggest Removal)
this "mom" is a 17 yr old child...likely with limited life and social skills to make good judgements. as far as falling asleep...if thats what happened...I have fallen asleep without realizing it when completely exhausted. if she was in the tub with the baby it is quite possible that it happened that way. a 3-4 mos old baby is not going to thrash about either. regardless...whether accidental or purposeful it is a senseless tragedy that breaks my heart. people need to be reaching out to this family regardless of what happened.
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Posted By:Laura at March 6, 2008 2:27 PM (Suggest Removal)
People - please don't judge and condemn this Mom. It's not up to you. She probably made the worst mistake in her life and she'll have to live with it.
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Posted By:kim at March 6, 2008 2:43 PM (Suggest Removal)
The mom is NOT a 17 year old...My 17 year old daughter and her 17 year old daughter went to school together...Please people don't pass judgment...Let's just pray for the little one and the parents, however this may turn out we need to remember "Love the sinner, hate the sin...May God Bless them all....
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Posted By:Mom of 2 at March 6, 2008 3:07 PM (Suggest Removal)
My prayers are with the family at this sad time!!!
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Posted By:Bubbles at March 6, 2008 3:15 PM (Suggest Removal)
As parents we all make mistakes at times; fortunatley they do not all have sad endings. If you do not have children, do not judge those of us that do, when we do make a mistake. If you do not have children, there is no way you can understand how difficult it can be. You also need to know that if the baby was not feeling well, it is not out of the question that someone suggested she put the baby in the tub with her (to sooth him). I can tell you that my children's doctor has suggested this to me in the past and it worked. Pleast stop passing judgement and let this poor mother and father grieve.
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Posted By:K at March 6, 2008 3:46 PM (Suggest Removal)
Oh PLEASE!!!
Do you people not READ? The mother is a 43 year old, with a 17 year old daughter...and happened to get pregnant by someone else's husband no less. If you'd ever seen this woman on the road, she had gone to living a somewhat normal life with a good paying job to living in the "slums" and taking all kinds of DRUGS! In a small town, everyone knows everyone.. in one way or another. This woman was on drugs so much you would think her eyes were permanently closed.
I'm not passing judgement, I happen to live in this town and have seen. It's very very sad that Zachary James has lost his life. If dad knew that this woman was taking drugs, shouldn't he have some responsibility and take the baby away from her to avoid this type of "accident".
It's a shame. A down right shame. I am leaving it in the hands of the investigators. They will find the truth to the matter and then all these people who think this is a mear "accident" will be picking your jaws up off the floor!
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Posted By:Lincoln at March 6, 2008 3:48 PM (Suggest Removal)
Isabelle, I am amazed that you of all people have no heart towards the mom in this case. Its a sad and unfortunate accident, and its enough punishment that this mother must live with her actions, that alone is punishment, but its an accident, there is no intent to harm, so exactly what punishment could you hand out?
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Posted By:a fan at March 6, 2008 4:51 PM (Suggest Removal)
Harrison resident, I don't know if I was missing something. Once I read your post, I went back to re-read the article, and saw nothing mentioning the tidbits which you did...were you reading something besides this article to get that info?...I don't know the family or any of the facts, so this is total speculation, but I couldn't help but wonder if it was a case of post-partum depression? In any case, my thoughts and prayers are with the surviving family and friends.
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Posted By:Mmm Hmm at March 6, 2008 5:07 PM (Suggest Removal)
I am a mom of 3 and never fell asleep during the bath of my child... For God sake the baby was ONLY 4 months old... sad yea but she should be held accountable for it!
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Posted By:K at March 6, 2008 5:16 PM (Suggest Removal)
sosad,sotragic
To fill you in a bit, Harrison is a SMALL town in Maine. Everyone as I said knows everyone. I know these people. I have seen the tiny infant. What a joy that baby would have been to someone if the mother did not want him.
It could have been a case of postpartum on top of the painpills, it could have been a lot of stuff bundled up. Being a mother, we know what it's like to take care of a very small child day in and day out. It can become nerve racking and any type of break away helps. There are so many programs that help single mothers, families, anyone. Instead of thinking of herself, she should have thought of that baby. Thought before stepping fooot into the tub with the child. I hope this wakes up a lot of single mothers out there in this world. Give the child a chance at a good life and call for help before putting an innocent small child in harms way.
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Posted By:Eliza at March 6, 2008 6:17 PM (Suggest Removal)
Harrison Resident -- stop spreading rumors & hearsay. In legal terms that would be called SLANDER. Stop being a judgemental @$$.
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Posted By:Eliza at March 6, 2008 6:21 PM (Suggest Removal)
Oh and by the way "Harrison Resident" she happened to have gotten pregnant by someone else's husband. GASP! Oh my god!!! Geez, get a life & stop spreading rumors on the internet.
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Posted By:Blue Eyes at March 6, 2008 6:41 PM (Suggest Removal)
Lincoln, if you go back to read Issabelles last post, she does have a heart for the Mother. And to others, I understand that parents make mistakes. But this mistake cost the life of a defenseless four month old little boy. And I can not imagine how this mother feels. I don't know all the details. And I am sorry this mother has to live with this. But I am sorry...this can not be a story of "accidents happen". As a parent...we have responsibilities. You don't forget a kid in a car, you don't leave your child in a tub or unattended. I understand and know the difficulties of bringing up a child...but when you choose to bring one into the world...you damn well better be ready for all the responsibilites that go with it.
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Posted By:Juststoppinby at March 6, 2008 6:47 PM (Suggest Removal)
Who the hell made some of you judge and jury? This is a terrible thing that has happened. A child lost his life. Regardless of your personal opinions and guesses as to what happened the fact is that a child lost his life. There are people out there that are feeling tremendous pain. I am sure there are family members that have aching hearts. Stop and think what it might feel like to be a grandparent, aunt, uncle or cousin involved in this. Stop with the nasty remarks and think of others. I really don't think this is the time to run the family into the ground and spread stories. I know what it feels like to lose a grandchild. The pain never goes away. My thoughts and prayers go out to this family.
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Posted By:Concerned Friend at March 6, 2008 7:28 PM (Suggest Removal)
I sit here and read all the comments that everyone has to write. Some kind but some down right cruel. Unless you know this woman personally I wouldn't be saying anything. No one knows what really happened or what the situation was. I think everyone should just wait to see what the investigation brings. My prayers go out to Pam and her family. I do know Pam personally and I know that this has to be taking a toll on her and everyone in her family.
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Posted By:Bulldog at March 6, 2008 8:16 PM (Suggest Removal)
AMEN Concerned Friend, AMEN. I couldn't have said it better myself
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Posted By:just me at March 6, 2008 8:33 PM (Suggest Removal)
Those of you that are sitting around shooting your mouths off and judging this mother, should be ashamed of yourselves.
May you never have to bury your own child.
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Posted By:jerzee at March 6, 2008 8:34 PM (Suggest Removal)
Can a baby that small even hold himself up yet?
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Posted By:kim at March 6, 2008 8:37 PM (Suggest Removal)
TO ELIZA:
You my friend are the one that doesn't have her facts any where near correct...HARRISON RESIDENT you are right on the money, I to live here in Harrison and also know this mom and her 2 kids...What was stated by HR is the TRUTH, Harrison Village is very small and most everybody knows each other and not so much on the gossipy side, we all try and help one another, Eliza, living in the city it might not come as a shock to you, but here in this small town, getting pregnent by a married man stills carries quite a moral issue, some might say we are outdated in our way of thinking, but thats what makes our village our community family...As for helping Pam she wasn't the type to ask for help she was the type to help others, alot of people never relized there was a problem! Only the ones really close to her, I think someone should look to Zach's father for answers...GOD BLESS ZACH
MAY HE REST IN PEACE...
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Posted By:Laura at March 6, 2008 9:19 PM (Suggest Removal)
Ummm..she was 43..
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Posted By:K at March 7, 2008 12:56 PM (Suggest Removal)
Eliza....
In reference to your comment about my spreading rumors on the internet... ask around what the truth is about the father... you'll find you'll be sending out an apology as it's NOT a rumor that he was married to someone else.. it's the TRUTH! It's a sad situation and it truly doesn't matter who is married to who, but maybe this was all done because the dad was married and mom wanted more from him. It's a tragic that the little one had to pay for his mother's sadness.
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