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Voters slash budget to keep taxes down

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Sunday, March 30, 2008

GREENWOOD - In an attempt to avoid a tax increase, voters made deep cuts to several budget items at the annual town meeting Saturday.

Six spending recommendations by selectmen on the town's 35-article warrant were reduced for a total savings of $85,475. However, while the cuts brought the budget down from the projected 8 percent increase, they still represented an increase of $7,934 over last year's budget.

Voters approved a reduction of $40,000 in the proposed reserve and savings accounts; $19,310 in the Fire Department budget; $10,000 in the facility maintenance and repair budget; $5,320 in the community safety budget; $5,845 in the codes, planning and assessment budget; and $5,000 in the administrative budget.

Selectmen had requested $60,000 for reserve and savings, $69,310 for the Fire Department, $57,250 for facility maintenance, $30,045 for community safety, $45,845 for codes/planning/assessment, and $235,000 for administrative.

The Fire Department vote drew the most discussion. The cut was proposed by resident Fran Picirillo, who asked that the department's budget be reduced to $35,000 by trimming expenses for wages, vehicle repair and equipment.

Some residents questioned whether Greenwood should retain a professional fire chief and if it might consider joining with a neighboring fire department.

"The Fire Department is getting to the point where we can't afford it," former Selectman Herbie Dunham said.

Fire Chief Jim Owens, who works part-time for the department, said the presence of the department in Greenwood resulted in a house being saved from destruction in September. He also said pairing up with a neighboring department would not be an effective cost-saving measure.

"There would be some savings," Owens said. "It's not going to be significant."

After another amendment was proposed that would allocate the full amount recommended by selectmen for the department, confusion reigned over whether a formal vote was taking place on either item. Eventually, Picirillo proposed another amendment, this time reducing the department's budget to $50,000, and the change was accepted.

The town also overwhelmingly rejected a pay-per-bag policy, which would have had residents purchase special garbage bags for disposal at the transfer station, which is shared by Greenwood and Woodstock. Steve Beiss, a former Woodstock selectman, said it costs the town $99.14 to dispose of a ton of garbage, while it will receive money for turning in recyclables. Beiss said the plan aimed to prevent people from throwing away recyclables to save the town money.

"This needs to go forward," Selectman Wayne Hakala said, who proposed the item as a citizen's initiative article. "The more you're recycling, the more we save."

Residents expressed concerns that the new system would instead lead to more littering, as well as the possibility of people, including tourists, being turned away from the transfer station for not having the correct bag. Residents also noted that the system would punish those who are already recycling and discourage people from cleaning up other roadside garbage, which they would have to pay for.

"I don't see why we should have to pay for somebody else's mistakes," resident Irving Cole said.

Voters also decided in a 33 to 26 vote to split an $800 line item in the general services budget among libraries in Bethel, Woodstock and West Paris. The item had formerly gone only to the Bethel library, and was amended when some residents said they could access the other libraries more easily.

Arnold Jordan was elected to the Board of Selectmen, replacing the retiring Hakala, with a landslide 56 votes. He defeated Rodney Harrington, who had 16 votes, and Shaun Houston, who had four. Jacqueline Brown was elected unopposed to the SAD 44 school board.



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Posted By:GreenwoodCity at March 30, 2008 7:31 AM (Suggest Removal)
I was very impressed with yesterday's meeting. But what is Owens saying? Of course there would be savings by combining the Fire Departments. In fact by getting togeter with Woodstock and Bethel, maybe we could have a Full Time Service in Bethel? Likewise, West Paris and South Paris. It only makes sence. I'd love to see a list of all the Fire Equipment from Oxford to Albany, I bet its absurd! And why no discussion over Tri-Town? I saw that Bob from Pace was there, but no chatter about it at all.

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Posted By:Clueless in Rumford at March 30, 2008 8:54 AM (Suggest Removal)
I guess Greenwood only needs to ask one question. What is more important - Money or public safety. I am sure there could be cost savings if Greenwood merged with another fire department but that would also delay response time in the event of an incident. I know first hand that timing is critical and that is why we have small departments in Maine's rural areas instead of relying on regional or county protection. Also, when you look at the equipment, there may be some redundant equipment but when you have a significant event you need to have a supply of water and that is not always easy in this area. Make sure you are thinking before giving the fire department the axe. You will rarely find any service that does as much and costs as little as a rural Maine volunteer fire department. After all, have you ever seen a volunteer police department, public works or town manager? Think about it.

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Posted By:pluto at March 30, 2008 8:56 AM (Suggest Removal)
Greenwood City. The word I'm getting is that the meeting was a circus and the fire fighters support of Owens was ignored. So much for respecting the opinion of those who need to trust their leader in a life and death situation. Are you suggesting that Greenwood and Woodstock should sign an interlocal agreement with Bethel and fund a full time Bethel Fire Department? Maybe they could use the Med Care model.

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Posted By:GreenwoodCity at March 30, 2008 9:45 AM (Suggest Removal)
LORD NO, I wouldn't want any town to be involved with anything like that mess in Rumford! But perhaps something like the library would work. Shared support, shared equipment, etc. Money doesn't always = better safety. In fact that model in Rumford is cheaper with the whole regional thing, no doubt, aside from the other issues. Wouldn't you say that was true? That Rumford interlocal deal just needs some revisions to bring it up to date probably. I'm also not saying we should flush the whole thing, because I do appreciate what the Firemen do in all the small Towns. By the way, I wouldn't call that meeting a circus at all, and if you weren't there, then you are responding to heresay. I saw my fellow citizens trying to find ways to save a little money in these hard times. Many of us are elderly and those few percent could mean our homes. I'd appreciate a little understanding on that. When I was young, all of these small fire stations served a purpose. It took a long time to get anywhere. The times are changing, and I think we have to look ahead, or simply be left behind.

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Posted By:Justin at March 30, 2008 9:47 AM (Suggest Removal)
Public Safety, Public Safety, Public Safety. How many homes lost, how many lives lost? Combining fire departments DOES NOT move the firehouse closer. Is money worth your life and property? To some, it just may....My sympathies to the real victims of this, the members of Greenwood Fire. As for the citizens, I wish you the best with the situation you ask for.

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Posted By:pluto at March 30, 2008 10:09 AM (Suggest Removal)
Greenwood City. I did not intend to offend you or pass judgment on anyone's financial situation. I apologize if that was how it came across. It's tough times for all. It just seems to me that the citizens were looking to save money, but directed the majority of the cuts towards the Fire Department. They had a reasonable budget when you think about all they do and all the special skills, training and equipment they need. The citizens could have achieved the same result by reducing the roads budget (that was half a million dollars) and that would have been easier to absorb with less of a negative impact. It really sent the wrong message. Who want's to be a fireman for a town that doesn't care about them and doesn't care about who they want to lead them? I was around in the old days and believe me, Greenwood should be grateful for chief Owens and his men.

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Posted By:GreenwoodCity at March 30, 2008 11:21 AM (Suggest Removal)
Thank you Pluto. And I am happy to have Chief Owens around. The only message I heard was "save money." And the roads clearly need the money. We'll be paying for this winter for a long time to come! I was just suggesting that they look at some alternatives. As you said, firemen need very specialized training and its only getting more intensive. Perhaps a better system with shared budgets is the way to go, I don't know?

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Posted By:pluto at March 30, 2008 12:15 PM (Suggest Removal)
Greenwood City. I agree, but until there is an alternative and an agreement, you have to keep what little you have going. That is not the message that was sent. 19 thousand dollars was more than 20% of their budget, but it would have only been roughly 2 and a half % of the road budget. All I am saying is that 19 thousand could have been absorbed by roads and not damage the department or their work, but 19 thousand is a major hit to the FD and there is no place to absorb it without cutting something or someone important. Who's gonna lead them if the loose Owens and how are you gonna pay a new person? I see this happening all over the state and it is a very bad trend. Something is going to happen or someone is going to get hurt (a citizen or a fireman) due to cuts in services that rescue us from danger or death. I sure don't want to look a widow or a little kid in the face at his fathers funeral and say I'm sorry I couldn't find a couple bucks in my pocket to save your dad, whether a fireman or a citizen. I doubt a couple feet less of hot top has the same risk. I'm just trying to put it in perspective.

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Posted By:disgusted at March 30, 2008 1:43 PM (Suggest Removal)
Money, Money Money..........Is it always about money? You aren't the ones sitting there all hours of the night when your husband/wife is at a propane explosion and another firefighter is trying to radio them and your spouse isn't responding..What would go through your head? and why would Bethel get the full time department? because they have a better firehouse? because they are bigger? GREENWOOD is in the middle of Bethel and Woodstock. It hurts that you take Money away from much needed funding. Coincidentally, it is approximately the same amount that is left from the donation from Mr. Stephen King. Are you trying to pull something? That money is specified for the NEW SQUAD ONLY!!!! Believe us, it will be used for that. We can not make up the cut with that money. We replaced the "BUS" from fundraising, to make our department and firefighters SAFER, and we even donated the truck back to the town after we purchased it. All of this to have you folks to make us UNSAFE again becuase of the cuts and the turmoil you are causing amongst the department. Great Job! .............not. I have written many times before and it should be taken care of at a meeting not on line........ You don't even let us talk and support us, you let us talk an then move on. Thanks alot!

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Posted By:FanOfFree at March 30, 2008 5:48 PM (Suggest Removal)
You can associate all of the drama to this you like, but the bottom line is the bottom line. We we need a smaller number at that bottom line. Maybe looking to other towns for help makes sense? By combining, sharing the responsibility, maybe we can make this a safer fire department? Safer for everyone in all of the towns.

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Posted By:Father Time at March 30, 2008 5:58 PM (Suggest Removal)
Circus indeed! What else would you call it when a ringmaster waves his wand and attempts to perform a ridiculous stunt and all the pussycats fall in line and raise their hands. What good could come of reducing an essential service by a third of it’s budget, which even at $69,000 is pathetically under-funded. What’s the point, what’s the motivation? It couldn’t be fiscal responsibility, must be something else! As one of the bloggers pointed out; $20,000 from roads is a drop in the bucket compared to a third of the fire budget. Question: What happens when you drive down a road with some potholes? Answer: You get a bumpy ride. Question: What happens when you send out an under funded, understaffed, under equipped and under trained Fire Dept.to an emergency? Answer: You get victim’s that incur large financial loss, injury and a lot of times death to not only the victim but the brave soles trying to help. Don’t even mention the fact that approx. 75% of the tax revenue is generated by those who have no vote in the matter and are 10 times less likely to utilize any of those emergency services that you just flushed down the sewer. So, in essence those that voted for the reduction in life saving services are the ones most likely to need it and collectively saved $5,000. I’ll leave the final math as to the cost per household to you!

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Posted By:pluto at March 30, 2008 6:26 PM (Suggest Removal)
FanOfFree....what does that mean? Does it mean you are a fan of getting everything for free? I don't read anyone here complaining about the bottom line. I see bloggers questioning where the cuts were made and speculating on the motive. If you see something else, it must be your conscience getting defensive.

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Posted By:Shady at March 30, 2008 8:30 PM (Suggest Removal)
I am certainly a fan of free stuff myself. I think the point that fan was trying to make is that this is the argument you always get from the Fire Fighters that have probably seen too many movies. We all agree that it can be a dangerious job. But the cuts have to come from somewhere. I just wonder why it wasn't cut from Tri-Town. Did it even appear on the voting list? I don't remember a thing about it. After the job they did on Wayne over there, I'd have raised my hand for that cut! Now there is an issue that needs to be pushed. Why on Earth the other Selectman didn't deal with it, I'll never know.

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Posted By:Shady at March 30, 2008 8:37 PM
Oh, and by the way Father Time, what are you saying? That there was a ring master? Who was that? And that the citizens of Greenwood are pussy cats? What do you think the motivation for the cuts was? It sounds like you have some idea. As for me, I didn't see any hidden agendas. All I saw was people trying to survive. And when you think about it in those terms in these times, what is more likely: Burn to death in a Fire that the Fire Department might put out, or stave and loose your house anyway for lack of money.

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Posted By:Father Time at March 30, 2008 9:22 PM (Suggest Removal)
Shady, Apparently you haven’t done the math. To fund the Fire Dept. as requested would have cost an average homeowner an additional $15. a year. That is provided that you chose the option not to take 2.5% from roads. If this amount would have caused you to starve and lose your home, you are in greater dire straits than one can imagine. May I recommend some fiscal responsibility on your part. Maybe you could start by canceling your internet service! As for conspiracy, I’ve never held much for them, but one must still question the motivation by some to put the Fire Dept. is such a predicament.

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Posted By:disgusted at March 31, 2008 7:49 AM (Suggest Removal)
THANK YOU TO FATHER TIME, I COULDN'T OF SAID IT BETTER MYSELF, IF ONLY I KNEW WHO YOU WERE I WOULD THANK YOU IN PERSON. WELL SAID AND THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT!!!!!

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