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New budget would cut money for police and fire

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Saturday, April 19, 2008

RUMFORD - The Finance Committee voted this week to cut police and fire department budget requests and increase those for the Greater Rumford Community Center and Black Mountain of Maine.

"Speaking as the chairman, the Finance Committee did a credible job trying to understand the budgets," Jolan Ippolito said. "They did a thoughtful job."

Selectmen last week approved a $7.3 million municipal budget that kept all 65 municipal employees in their jobs.

The Finance Committee's recommendation of a $7.14 million municipal spending plan will likely eliminate two positions each in the police and fire departments.

The Rumford Fire Department's budget request for $837,900 for 2008-2009 represents 6.9 percent less than this year's budget of $900,000.

Selectmen are recommending $799,900 for 2008-2009, which includes reducing the staff from 14 to 11 through attrition.

The Finance Committee is recommending $708,000, which will likely mean elimination of two positions, interim Chief Richard Coulombe said, and could mean shifts with only two full-time firefighters on duty, at times.

He said union contract issues may enter into the cuts, if voters approve the Finance Committee's recommendations.

Coulombe said it is unsafe to respond to a fire with only three firefighters.

"We'll still respond, but we won't be able to do anything until several call force members arrive. We would have to wait longer," he said.

For the Police Department, Chief Stacy Carter said he has asked for $929,000 for 2008-2009.

Selectmen are recommending $913,000.

The Finance Committee voted for $824,000, which would mean two vacancies for officers would not be filled.

Carter said the lower figure means the loss of two police officers, which would affect the department's response time.

"There would still be two people on patrol," he said.

The duties of the sergeants and detective lieutenant could be affected, he said.

He said he plans to look at a variety of restructuring models during the next few weeks, while lobbying to keep the full-time, 14-member force.

"The crime rate is higher in Rumford than in most towns its size, and Rumford has a large geographic area," he said. "We need to inform the citizens of what the level of service would be. A decrease in service would affect the nature of the community."

The Finance Committee added about $10,000 to the Greater Rumford Community Center budget, bringing it to $95,000, and upped the Black Mountain budget to $70,000. It also added $25,000 to the public works capital reserve fund.

While both total budgets proposed by the two panels fall under the state tax cap, Town Manager Jim Doar said it is possible that, depending on how residents vote on each article, townspeople could approve a budget higher than either that of the selectmen or the Finance Committee.

A public hearing on the proposed budgets will be held at 6 p.m. May 22 at Mountain Valley High School. Residents will vote on them June 10 at the American Legion Hall.

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Posted By:droppings at April 19, 2008 5:45 AM (Suggest Removal)
Whats wrong with the picture here? They reduce funding for the fire and police and increase the GRCC & Black Mountain? It is time to fund these 2 programs 0 dollars and let them raise there funds through public appeales and bake sales. yard sales, car washes, etc.

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Posted By:linda at April 19, 2008 5:47 AM (Suggest Removal)
Ok, I am new to this Payton Place of politics...can someone please explain to me just what the Greater Rumford Community Center, and Black Mountain is?? I am assuming Black Mountain is a ski slope? If this IS a ski slope, and the other is some sort of tourist trap or gathering place for people, what on earth is the budget committee thinking of DEcreasing Fire and police and INcreasing the money for these two things?? As a new resident of this town, I am not very impressed with the political governing body...and now they are exchanging community 'projects' for safty? Sorry, budget committe, but I would rather have a Police Officer, or Fire Dept here if I need help..not a free pass to ski...or a place to hang out..

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Posted By:Concerned at April 19, 2008 6:15 AM (Suggest Removal)
maybe they'll be able to keep an eye on the officers who use the patrol cars to do thier shopping, running their kids to school and picking their kids up from sports practices. If they stop doing this kinda crap they could get by with a budget cut..By the way linda being new you must not know that the town helps maintain the piblic pool there. Its been in need of repair for years.. black mountain is a not for profit.. grcc is not a place to hang out . they have many things for the kids in the community to do. Ever ride by the baseball fields while there is a ball game going on. who do you think pays for that equipment and uniforms. GRCC is rumfords version of the boys and girls club.I quess these things arent important to some people.

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Posted By:SlimChance at April 19, 2008 6:33 AM (Suggest Removal)
HEY! I've got an idea! Lets build a $2.2 Million Dollar Building for MedCare! The future looks bright! With the budget in the toilet and all the Fire & Police cuts. Oil prices skyrocketing! Come on people! Don't bother calling your MedCare Reps or the MedCare Base anymore to complain, I tried that and got no where, just the party line about how great the plan is. Call the Selectman, or Mr. Doar, maybe he can end this before he leaves?

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Posted By:George at April 19, 2008 7:35 AM (Suggest Removal)
By the way Linda being new you must not know that the town helps maintain the public pool there. Its been in need of repair for years.. black mountain is a not for profit.. grcc is not a place to hang out . they have many things for the kids in the community to do. Ever ride by the baseball fields while there is a ball game going on. who do you think pays for that equipment and uniforms. GRCC is Rumfords version of the boys and girls club.I guess these things aren't important to some people.

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Posted By:linda at April 19, 2008 7:38 AM (Suggest Removal)
Big Daddy I do NOT know what these two things are...thats why I asked...now that I know a little more about them..i'll tell ya what my hometown does...we do not have a pool.. one place had one open to the public, but the liability was to much..as the insurance and upkeep...pool closed...everyone survived...sports is BIG in my hometown..almost every child in town has played on an AYS team at some point.....guess who helps out? The PARENTS! You have to pay to play..they also have fundraisers...and the ball fields and tennis courts? The coaches, parents and kids help VOLUNTEER to do the upkeep..fields that are owned by the town, or the schools, are mowed by who ever owns it as part of normal maintance. Our town DOES help contribute money to group organizations, but by no means, would they foot the entire bill, nor would they ever take a Police officer or Fire personal away to fund these organizations. And I DO care a LOT about our children...I am a Preschool teacher...I Do realize there isn't much for children to do..but we cannot expect ANY town, be it Rumford or any where else, to foot the bill for extra's, at the expence of safety for the whole town...we also have a ski slope..again the town contributes money towards it..but does not foot the whole bill..it is run by VOLUNTEERS....from grooming the trails, running the snow guns, the club house...VOLUNTEERS! They also do fundraisers to cover expenses....

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Posted By:Pearl at April 19, 2008 7:49 AM (Suggest Removal)
I have lived in this area my whole life and while I do believe that Black Mountain and GRCC are important I think cutting police and fire departments is dangerous to our safety. How do you compare safety to public recreation?

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Posted By:Timeout at April 19, 2008 7:50 AM (Suggest Removal)
These are hard times economically. Rumford is tightening the belt. In order to do that, we have to figure out what we value and what our town's future will look like. It's a painful and messy way to develop a vision but we are doing it. (I often wish we could do it without the resentment, name-calling and the general attitude that everyone else is stupid.) The comments from residents in other towns indicate their amusement at our struggles but I don't believe any town is exempt from these issues. Why do you think there is so much horrified fascination from all over about our town's business? we are just a mirror for the struggles every town is facing. Do you think they are being calm in Portlnd where they just recommended a major cut in their municipal services? I'm originally from Biddeford - the town politics are pretty wild there a good chunk of the time. Bethel's Police Chief just filed an 8 or 9 point complaint against the town manager...some child in Oxford just brought a handgun to school...I look to leadership for stability and a "grown-up" demeanor in hard times. When I don't think I see it, I am discouraged and then I remember, "Oh yeah, I'm the grown-up."

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Posted By:linda at April 19, 2008 7:53 AM (Suggest Removal)
Hey george Can't think of anything on your own to post?? You copied Big Daddys post word for word! Great minds think alike?

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Posted By:Marc at April 19, 2008 8:01 AM (Suggest Removal)
One of the problems Rumford has, is people moving here from outside, and trying to change our way of life. Mybe they should go back to where they came from if he/she dosen't like out town politics. As far as the Fire Dept. goes, Mexico,s works real nice with only one man on.

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Posted By:Marc at April 19, 2008 8:20 AM (Suggest Removal)
Maybe it,s time for both Rumford and Mexico to join forces and look to the future and not be stuck in the past. There will become a day when both towns will not be able to go it alone. Maybe the time is now. Lets move on and put our differances in the past.

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Posted By:pluto at April 19, 2008 9:16 AM (Suggest Removal)
Linda, many people feel the same way you feel, but all you have to do is read the comment from Marc. That is what we are up against. Until enough people get involved and out vote the territorial isolationists who live in the past and deny the present and future, we will all be doomed to the antics and bad decisions of the people elected to office. The selectmen in Rumford pander to the voters who put and keep them in office rather than serve the citizens of our fair town.

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Posted By:linda at April 19, 2008 9:18 AM (Suggest Removal)
Marc I chose to move here because this is where my partner lives..I would have stayed where I was, but, you know, sometimes love wins out! Maybe what this town needs IS outsiders to point out what to heck is happening. We 'outsiders' have no vested interest yet, we have no 'personal connections' to any of the 'players'yet, and we read every comment that is written. Sometimes someone from the 'outside' can see the situation much clearer than those directly involved. We now live here to, and want to say we are proud to be from here....hasn't happened for me yet, but I have only been here several months...good thing I have such a great guy....or I would be back in my own home town! And one more thing...the Fire dept from MY hometown is ALL VOLUNTEER..and they are the best on the planet...no room for politics in the F.D.!!

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Posted By:Timeout at April 19, 2008 9:20 AM (Suggest Removal)
Marc - Rumford's problem is people moving here from away? Please be more specific...certainly we have a declining population, certainly we need to build the tax base, certainly we need people to spend money in our stores and on our services...do you mean to tell people you can come here but we just want your money and not your opinion? Come on.

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Posted By:Kelly at April 19, 2008 10:59 AM (Suggest Removal)
this is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. No more citizens can you complain about the taxrate in Rumford if this budget passes. The crime rate is high for a town the size of Rumford? Selectman and Finance Committee response? Cut the police department and increase Black Mtn and GRCC budget.

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Posted By:horsefeathers at April 19, 2008 4:56 PM (Suggest Removal)
Rumford is like a marriage on the rocks and the rocks are right there. At this time, Mexicao would have nothing to gain and everything to loose by a merger.

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Posted By:MMMMMM at April 19, 2008 6:46 PM (Suggest Removal)
I think rumford should be buried under a BIG steaming pile of POOP.

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Posted By:y at April 19, 2008 11:29 PM (Suggest Removal)
can anyone tell me what the rumford reporter is?

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Posted By:AndoverTeaParty at April 20, 2008 6:17 AM (Suggest Removal)
The Rumford Reporter is a news site, which can be found at www.therumfordreporter.com. Actually I think its quite good. I saw the letter of non-support of medcare to the USDA from Andover on there, I hadn't seen that anywhere else. Likewise with the letter from Wayne Delano regarding medcare. The chief of medcare himself has posted comments in there which lends credibility as a news sourse.

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Posted By:linda at April 20, 2008 6:41 AM (Suggest Removal)
Pluto..thanks for explaining this to me in a calm way! Man,there are a lot of hostal people on these blogs. All I was asking is for information so I can make an informed comment, so THANK YOU for the post to me. I think you are very correct in your explaination. What i don't understand, and will probably get a barage of negitivity again, is, how come these certain selectpeople keep getting re elected?? If they are apparently causing so much hell fire crazy problems, and most of the blogs are to oust them, how are they still in office? When are your elections for selectmen here?

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Posted By:bigdaddy22 at April 20, 2008 7:17 AM (Suggest Removal)
Read the article again they arent cutting police officers they not replacing the ones that left not replacing firemen threw atrition (dont spell good)There are towns in northern maine bigger than rumford where all the firemen are volunteers.AND half the time you ride threw rumford the police officers are parked at the information center shooting the bull or at franklin savings bank in mexico chatting with the mexico officer.. anyway the increase in funding for grcc and black mountain is only 10,000 dollars a piece. where could you find 2 police officers and 3 firemen to work for a combined salary of 20,000 dollars .. Everybody went off the deep end when they read cuts and increases but did you actually notice how much the increases were. Rumford used to give thier fanchise money they get from the cable company to the fire works (12,000 a year) now they use it to pay for firemens salaries.

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Posted By:pluto at April 20, 2008 9:42 AM (Suggest Removal)
linda, there are a number of reasons these dinosaurs continue to be re-elected. 10 when faced with the decision to elect a "local" vs. the dreaded "person from away", the locals will come out in droves to ensure the local they trash every other day of the year is re-elected. 2) As you can see in the papers, selectmen have a thankless job where no matter what they do, a bunch of people get p-ed off at them, and publicly trash them. 3) Any elected position requires voters to put them in office. However, once there, they have a responsibility to make decisions for the overalll good of the community, including opposition voters, non-voters, locals, people from away (which, by the way, could be someone who moved to the mountains from the coast of Maine), renters, business owners, etc. When an elected official makes a decision for the overall good of the community that might not be to the liking of those who voted for them, they fall prey to a barrage of public punishment. 4) Based on #1-3, even a gluten for punishment couldn't endure the pressure. If a new and capable person rises to the occasion, they are quickly beaten down and do not seek re-election. The bottom line is that although our selectmen have made some really bad decisions as a group and individually, (the great tree cutting caper comes to mind) the position is thankless and no matter who holds the office, they will be subject to fair criticism and unfair bashing. Don't get me wrong, if an elected official is doing a bad job, they should be voted out of office, but all too often voters are willing to be told who is good and who is bad rather than determine it for themselves. What is bad for you might be good for me and I alone should determine what is good for me.

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Posted By:disappointed at April 20, 2008 11:04 AM (Suggest Removal)
the rumford reporter is a bunch of of biased reporting that the editor won't say who he or she is because they report on thier views not news I have personally commented on some stuff inthier that never made it on the site surprise surprise they are slanderous oh and by the way the police and fire department should be taken care of they save lives you backwards people my god this town is so moronic we are viewed as idiots through out the state because the views of people that say we shouldn't put money into the fire dept and police or EMS I recently talked to a person from searsport that had heard about this crap that goes on here it is pathetic

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Posted By:pluto at April 20, 2008 12:19 PM (Suggest Removal)
roxbury, I agree with you, but how do we get a grass roots effort going to support police, fire and ems? We shouldn't pit one department against the other or one town against the other, so how do we try to get the problem addressed without putting down other efforts? There is limited money to go around, so I'm all for priorities. I'll lend my help to somebody who has an idea that is helpful without hurting someone else. We should be able to justify priorities and fight for funding without sinking to trashing somebody elses priorities.

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Posted By:Rumford at April 20, 2008 2:23 PM (Suggest Removal)
You're right Terri.

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Posted By:Right On at April 20, 2008 2:54 PM (Suggest Removal)
Why does Ms. Norris write articles and pretend to not be the editor and interview herself ????

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Posted By:Right On at April 20, 2008 3:14 PM (Suggest Removal)
From what i gather from alot of these blogs everyone knows its her.

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Posted By:Mike at April 20, 2008 4:31 PM (Suggest Removal)
Ms. Norris and "fast hands" Carey deserve every bit of recent criticism. Just too bad it has taken this long.

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Posted By:Candice at April 20, 2008 8:13 PM (Suggest Removal)
For generations Rumford has exported their best and brightest. Since the closing of the R&D Department of the paper mill, there has been nothing to bring in or keep people with education, skills, talents and technology something further reflected in the inability to keep top educators, if cultural and educational opportunities are not available for them, their spouses and children they will not come or stay, the same can be said for town managers, business professio and so forth. After 36 years I moved my own family out in 1998, after fulfilling my family responsibilities to extended family. I took with me my four college degrees that had no place in Rumford. I took my three children, then 5, 7 and 11 so they could have opportunities in the arts, sciences, culture and education. While Rumford's populations has shrunk to a small fraction of what it was in 1979 when the police department was 14 officers including dispatchers 4, with a major drug problem in the community, the highest per capita beer sales in the nation and an alarming domestic assault rate, the department has grown while transferring dispatching duties to the county sherrifs department. Fewer people, more officers, and yet the people of Rumford are told that reducing officers will decrease public safety. During a recent visit to Rumford, I passed by the Rumford Police Department to find three uniformed officers, clearly on duty with approximately six of thier own young children.These officers could not have responded to any call as they were taking care of their children at the office. A family member was recently involved in a minor accident. While the person in the accident stayed at the scene with the car, another person went to the police station to report the accident. At first I was surprised by this until I remembered they were dealing with Rumford. All three officers on duty where at the station drinking coffee. Known went to the scene despite the fact a deer had been hit and killed. The officer asked if more than $1500 damage had been done to the car, and if either the person reporting or the driver wanted the meat. When there wasn't $1500 in damage, the officer told the reporter that he and the driver could just go, they didn't need to fill out a report and the officer went back to his coffee. The deer was left where it landed. Rumford has had a major drug and alcohol problem for more than the 50 years of my life and an atrocious domestic assault rate, clearly none of which has been positively impacted by a higher officer to population ratio. Perhaps it is time for Rumford to look not just at crime rate, but effectiveness of the money they are spending. Wiser men than I have said that, if the money being spent is not achieving the goal, it is not well spent, and further spending this way will not change that.

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Posted By:Candice at April 20, 2008 9:58 PM (Suggest Removal)
On the other hand the Rumford Fire Department has run on absolute minumum standards for all of my years. Reducing the manpower of that department would endanger the people of the town and firefighters. I have lost family members in Rumford to fire, no fault of the Rumford Fire Department. I hope that the next lives lost will not be as a result of unreasonable reductions to the fire department or even worse, Rumford burying fire fighters because of unreasonable reductions, leaving firefighters to stand helplessly by waiting for adaquate responders or out of compulsion to save a life taking their own lives at further at risk to save another because they do not have the support they should. I've never been a fan of GRCC or Black Mountain, finding both organizations to be selective as to whom they provide services to while taking tax dollars from all. In other words, GRCC and Black Mountain are not open to all. Using taxpayer dollars to support a closed group is inappropriate at best predjudicial and self-serving at worst. To increase the budget allocation over the rquest is highly suspect. One would have to be absent of discerning thought to not realize something is radically wrong when police and fire services cuts are proposed and while private club contributions are raised above requested amount.

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Posted By:linda at April 21, 2008 5:52 AM (Suggest Removal)
Thanks again Pluto...you explained it to me very well...

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Posted By:concerned resident at April 21, 2008 8:01 AM (Suggest Removal)
I don't live in the Rumford area, but as some say from reading the article and blogs, Sure giving more money to the mountain nd more money the community center...however cutting emergency funds...why would you do that? Take it out of something else. So everyone backing this will probably complain if, heaven for bid, the mountain has a fire or the community center has a fire and wonder why the FD can't put it out offensively, which is when you take the fight to the fire by going in and more damage is caused then if you could go in, but due to the cuts they can only fight defensively which is fighting outside the building and not where the fire originated. You'll be glad you funded more of the cost to run then funding the money the FD asked for. What if there's an emergency where the police are needed? Did you know that if there is a domestic or somewhere where EMS thinks it's NOT safe they stage away from the scene until PD gets there? If someone was shot, stabbed they are lying there until police deem the scene is safe before EMS comes to the scene. What will happen with the loss of some PD positions? Think about it...

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Posted By:Lee at April 21, 2008 8:16 AM (Suggest Removal)
Wow! The article ‘Lives Ruined for Speaking the Truth’ on the Rumford Reporter is classic. Jennifer is writing the article about herself but could not get a hold of herself for comment. It is a pity party article for Jen and Seth. She then jumps on the side of the Town Manager, who she recently had / possible still has a complaint pending against. I guarantee you his life is not ruined by what she and her click have done to him in this town. He is moving onward and will find a much better position elsewhere. Plus if Jim Doar was 29 a year ago, how can he be 28 now? Rumford hasn’t been that good for him that he found the fountain of youth. This woman doesn’t fact check anything! Pure classic crap! Always nice for a laugh though.

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Posted By:Editor at April 21, 2008 6:30 PM (Suggest Removal)
Wow, T, unfair, and MaineGal are now infamous! Jennifer Stowell, in The Rumford Reporter, has identified them as being part of a faction that "relentlessly attack a person's character until the person is so beat down that they give up". Ms. Stowell also complains that "Their postings lend no credibility to themselves because they hide behind anonymous postings on blogs and attack people" (BTW...the ability to post anonymously is part of what blogs are all about). Is this a case of the “pot calling the kettle black”? It's laughable that Ms. Stowell criticizes T, unfair, MaineGal, and others for hiding behind "anonymous postings" when it is the policy of The Rumford Reporter to "TO PROTECT A PERSON'S ANONYMITY" and allow anonymous postings. It's ironic that Ms. Stowell hides behind the title of "editor" when she posts on The Rumford Reporter. The Rumford Reporter does report some legitimate and accurate news written by persons other than Ms. Stowell. I urge anyone who cares, to read all of Ms. Stowell's editorials and judge for yourself. She posts anonymously but can be easily identified. I think you’ll find Ms. Stowell and The Rumford Reporter entertaining reading. (http://www.therumfordreporter.com/)

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Posted By:Editor at April 21, 2008 9:04 PM (Suggest Removal)
"As a word of caution, I wouldn't allow scripts to run when visiting their page." MaineGal, can you explain why?

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Posted By:Right On at April 21, 2008 9:09 PM (Suggest Removal)
Okay, guess I'm not to computer savy.......what does that mean?? What might I be running that I shouldn't be??

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Posted By:ERIN at April 21, 2008 10:16 PM (Suggest Removal)
OK so I am staying out of the whole why are we cutting police and fire positions, cause one I no longer live in Rumford and two it only causes more arguments. That said I understand the Rumford Reporter can print what they like but I took great offense to the Simpson's picture of the cop on one of their articles. I am a 911 dispatcher in another state, my husband is a state trooper also. I have been involved in officers deaths and shootings. I know not all law enforcement officers are the best in the business, put most do put their life on the line for perfect strangers. So if anyone from the Rumford Reporter sees this please show some tact and respect when reporting the "facts".

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Posted By:ERIN at April 21, 2008 10:28 PM (Suggest Removal)
sorry should be "but most do put their life on the line". Also just read the whole "truth" article too..so they talk about not personally attacking someone when trying to tell the truth. Doesn't anyone think that whole Simpson's picture can be taken as an attack on police officers reputations? Kind of looks like calling the kettle black maybe?

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