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1 assistant principal for 262 kids. Is that... Too much of a good thing?

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Sunday, April 20, 2008

At Edward Little High School in Auburn, one principal and four assistant principals oversee 1,048 students. That's top one administrator for every 209 students.

In terms of assistant principals, that's one $75,500 position for every 262 kids.

That's how the School Committee sees it. It's a very generous ratio. Lower than the state recommends. Lower than other school systems maintain. Lower, some say, than Auburn can afford.

At the behest of the City Council - a council facing myriad financial pressures - the city's School Committee has proposed eliminating a high school assistant principal. School officials say the cut is doable, that it will save money without decimating the quality of education.

But they also say the more administrators there are, the better for kids.

"They are difference-makers," said Auburn Superintendent Tom Morrill.

How many?

A Sun Journal survey of eight Maine school systems - including some of the state's largest and some in central and western Maine - showed Auburn's middle and high schools have the most assistant principals per student. Auburn Middle School has two assistants, called deans of students. That's one for every at 252 students. With four assistants, the high school has one for every 262.

Across the river, Lewiston High School has one assistant for every 449 students. Portland High School has one for every 506. Bangor High School has one for every 668.

Augusta's Hodgkins Middle School has one assistant for every 736 students. The position is part time. And it's being eliminated next year.

"The school board has given guidance that we really need a tax-neutral (budget) presentation," said Augusta Superintendent Cornelia Brown. "That's what we've done."

The state's school funding formula recommends one administrator (including principals and assistant principals) for 305 students at the middle school level and one per 315 students at the high school level.

But while Auburn has a very generous assistant principal-to-student ratio at its middle and high schools, a Sun Journal analysis of per-pupil spending found Auburn also spends far below the state average on administration.

In 2006-07, the last year figures are available, Maine school systems spent, on average, $513 per student on school administration - generally principals and assistant principals. Auburn spent $302 per student.

"We do know that we're into a different economic time and it is difficult and we're working very diligently to be responsive and sensitive to that fact," Morrill said.

In comparison, Lewiston spent $468 per student on school administration. Bangor spent $515. Augusta spent $518.

Portland spent $626. It's reached its limit.

"We would have more (administrators) if we could afford it," said Portland Interim Superintendent Jeanne Whynot-Vickers

Next year

No matter how much they spend, no matter how many administrators they have, school leaders say principals and assistant principals are vital to schools.

"You don't often notice the leadership moves that are making that happen. You only notice it when it's not there," Whynot-Vickers said.

Typically, principals and assistants have multiple responsibilities, from overseeing teachers and spearheading curriculum changes to chasing down absent students and breaking up fights in the cafeteria. Many serve as mentors and de facto counselors.

"When a world is falling down around a child, or (that's) how they perceive that, there's someone there to make sure that (they) can find the necessary resources to build up that hope again," Morrill said.

School officials in Portland and SAD 17, which covers the Oxford area, both said they'd like to have more school administrators, but they have other priorities at the moment. Bangor Superintendent Robert Ervin said his school system wouldn't know what to do with additional administrators.

"We don't need more," he said. "We have a very efficient operation."

Auburn plans to add an assistant superintendent next year - reinstating a position that had been eliminated for 2007-08. The salary has been budgeted at $85,000.

At the same time, the committee has proposed cutting one of the four assistant principals working at the high school, a move expected to save just over $83,000 in salary and benefits. If enrollment holds, that will give the high school one top administrator for every 262 students or one assistant superintendent for every 349 students.

"It's easy for schools to be very expensive and very good. It's also easy for schools to be very cheap and very poor," Morrill said. "What I think has been attempted, and we've been able to do, is create great value and great schools."

Right now, Edward Little's assistant principals are each dedicated to one grade. If the City Council and voters approve the proposed budget this spring, the three remaining assistants will spilt the grades and share responsibilities next school year.

"I think we'll do the absolute best we can do," Morrill said. "It will mean some changes. It may mean some things won't get done that are being done right now. But will we make it work? We absolutely will."

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Posted By:Gregg at April 20, 2008 7:21 AM (Suggest Removal)
Perhaps, staffing should be looked at by normal management standards for "span of control" that generally says a supervisor should be able to oversee about 5 subordinates. In this case, to justify the 4 assistant principals, they should oversee about 20 department heads and under them 100 teachers. If this is the case I would say the entire school would be a bit overstaffed. Schools generally have a staffing pattern of one teacher for every 20-30 students, according to a communities ability to afford luxury extras. This should include administrators. What is the teacher student ratio for the Edward Little High School???...Perhaps teachers should teach and not administer. Most private businesses would fail if they attempted to staff at levels seen as normal in the business of educating our children.

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Posted By:Dave at April 20, 2008 7:27 AM (Suggest Removal)
Auburn schools may very well have top heavy administration, but if the Sun Journal wants to write an editorial on the subject they should do it on the editorial page.

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Posted By:horsefeathers at April 20, 2008 9:01 AM (Suggest Removal)
I agree with Dave on the editorial bit. The whole breakdown of the school spending and decline in "real" education came with the passing of the Sinclair Act in the late fifties. Hard telling if it was the beginning of the School Administration Districts or the "Social" Administrative Districts. In any event it was designed to save money. For thirty years administrative costs increased more than 400%. Per pupil cost grew by more than 350% within a 25 year period. Teacher respect was outstanding compared to todays nightmare. The "aheader we went the behinder we got" in education.... the cost of doing business grew at an alarming rate. Baldacci is finally right. Enrolement is down and declining so should it be with adminstrative expenditures. On saving money through consolidation Baldacci is wrong.

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Posted By:bill at April 20, 2008 9:12 AM (Suggest Removal)
Now wait a minute. Middle schools are set up in teams. I think high schools are too but I'm not sure. (Something to look into.) Each team has a Team Leader and if you follow the middle school concept, each team leader is like a mini-administrator with the team taking care of discipline problems within their own team and only going to the assistant principal or dean with difficult problems. And the team leaders are paid extra for this purpose! Lets bring out the whole story. The team leader is responsible for leading his/her staff and students.

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Posted By:applauding at April 20, 2008 10:01 AM (Suggest Removal)
No one is saying that these administrators are not needed. Just is it needed right now, at this time of economic crisis? Ultimately, driving a brand new car is the safest and best possible way, but if you can't afford it, you go with the best, cheaper used car, you can afford. Right now Auburn citizen's cannot afford to increase in taxes.

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Posted By:TED at April 20, 2008 10:33 AM (Suggest Removal)
I don't think this sounds a bit editorial- the story presented some facts behind an issue. So, if Auburn has the highest admin to student ratio, but the lowest cost of admin to student ratio, doesn't that mean that our administrators are paid less than the others? Sounds like Auburn is getting more for their money.

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Posted By:TED at April 20, 2008 10:40 AM (Suggest Removal)
as for bill's question- yes there are team leaders and department heads, but these are teachers (paid a small stipend, that's it) and they spend their day teaching classes, not administrating or dealing with disciplinary issues. Their role is to lead department/team meetings, assist with scheduling, and act as a line of communication with administration. Like all other teachers, they have to deal with minor discipline issues within their own classroom and rely on assistant principals to deal with bigger issues. Long gone are the days when assistant principals only dealt with smoking in the bathroom and kids tardy to class. Now it's weapons searching, drug dealing and use, abused and neglected students, severe bullying made worse by technology, and truancy. Their presence is often a deterrent. Let's see what happens-

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Posted By:applauding at April 20, 2008 11:41 AM (Suggest Removal)
Let's not forget that the school board and Administration chose the cuts they chose-cutting teachers always causes a stir. They could have looked at an increase in the costshare of health insurance and saved huge amounts of money. It is my understanding that Auburn school employees do not pay anything for their health insurance unless a full family is covered, and then they pick up the cost of the spouse and children only. A luxury few Auburn residents have. Thousands of dollars could have been saved, with school staff paying a small $10-20 a week. Perhaps Ted is right and we will see what results come from cutting an Asst Principal, and then they may decide to rethink always cutting teachers instead of looking at other ways to save money.

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Posted By:JulieL at April 20, 2008 12:45 PM (Suggest Removal)
I agree. Let teachers pay a small amount toward their health beneifits and keep the assistant Principals for each grade. I hope that means oer the four years, the assistanct Principal becomes familiar with each and every student; not just the self-motivated ones. Smart kids teach themselves, it's the other students who need the help and are usually overlooked...

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Posted By:bill at April 20, 2008 1:26 PM (Suggest Removal)
Is my thinking correct? Citizens still have to vote on the school budget. There is a good chance that the budget won't pass if parents and teachers get out and vote against the budget. If the budget doesn't pass by the voters the budget has to get re-worked and there is a very good possiblity that no one will be cut. Is my thinking correct on this? Also, there is a great chance that the people that like the cuts as they are won't bother to vote at all. Thus in a sense helping to avoid these cuts.

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Posted By:applauding at April 20, 2008 2:02 PM (Suggest Removal)
The council will not vote for no cuts. The cityside has already been cut bare. The school can't come in with an increase in their budget. Either, they accept the cuts as is, or they go back to the table and look at other areas to cut. Then you are back to square one. Where do we cut. That is why you look at what the other schools are doing... That is why the people were mad about having 4 Asst Principals when even Portland has less.

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Posted By:Cunyar at April 20, 2008 2:04 PM (Suggest Removal)
When I was in school we had two asst principles and it worked just fine. Both Lewiston and Auburn should cut Asst. Principles and put that 150k into things like books, pencils and paper....you know, the things they cannot afford right now.

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Posted By:Tired at April 20, 2008 4:07 PM (Suggest Removal)
Wait a minute, JulieL. Aren't Auburn's teachers somewhat underpaid, even when compared to Lewiston's? And you suggest that now they should pick up the tab for their insurance as well? In my opinion, maybe a half decent benefits package will help attract and retain these great people! I read the comment the other day about "gold plated benefits" and other equally ridiculous things. I say, leave their benefits alone - they certainly aren't getting enough take-home pay!

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Posted By:applauding at April 20, 2008 6:11 PM (Suggest Removal)
I don't think it is ridiculous to say that teachers have gold plated benefits. Have you looked at what private sector's get for benefits? How many other jobs can you work half an year and still be able to retire with a lifetime pension at an early age? With retiree health coverage on top of it. Most companies are lucky to offer that! And have you looked at what other companies pay for health insurance? No one wants to cut or change benefits. People do appreciate the teachers. It's the economy!

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Posted By:Tired at April 20, 2008 6:52 PM (Suggest Removal)
It is absolutely ridiculous, when teachers are making barely more than $30,000, why do you people get so hot because they get $5,000 worth of health benefits? These are people who would be making a heck of a lot more than $30,000 in the private sector. Show me a teacher who only works half a year!

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Posted By:Keith at April 20, 2008 7:16 PM (Suggest Removal)
I'm an ELHS grad and now live in the midwest. At my children's high school, there are 1,669 students with one principal and four assistant principals. That's one per 334 students.

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Posted By:dr. dosh at April 20, 2008 8:52 PM (Suggest Removal)
Show me a teacher who only works half a year ? Most public schools years are open ≠ 186 days . The classic shape of a beaurocracy should be a pyramid . There are teachers then there are educators . Why doesn't some intrepid soul just go over to Bates and ask an education professor his or her opinion ? i don't know much , but i do know they have one Dean of Students for ≠ 1,600 students , one Dean of Faculty & a female President . i also do not know what they get paid . i think the students there may or may not be more mature than your kids and easier to school , [ although Dean Jim Carrignan got shot once & lived to tell about it =] . Sure , i may be comparing Apples® to oranges but just go over and talk with a Professor , someone , maybe ? Your Mayor John Jenkins , Bates '74 , probably does . They don't bite . Think outside the box & Alo'ha , *<=)

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Posted By:applauding at April 21, 2008 6:51 AM (Suggest Removal)
Tired, now you think that only people making more than $30,000 are complaining? What about the retiree only bringing in $1500 a month? What about the single mother's who are barely making it? And, let's not forget, you get a lifelong pension when you retire at a young age, while most of the private sector must work til their 67+ Most of the private sector doesn't get sick days or vacation days. AND, let's be realistic, starting salary for teacher's is $30,000. You are NOT willing to make any sacrifice to help the taxpayers, apparently. Enjoy your health benefits, and don't take them for granted. There are a whole heck of a lot of Auburn Taxpayers who are going without medical care cause they can't afford it.

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Posted By:Tired at April 21, 2008 8:45 AM (Suggest Removal)
For the record, I am not a teacher.

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