Plans move ahead for Med-Care facility
By Eileen M. Adams
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Staff Writer
Thursday, May 15, 2008
RUMFORD - Plans are moving ahead toward construction of a new Med-Care Ambulance Service facility as each of the 11 member towns vote on whether to approve a new 10-year local agreement.
So far, five towns - Carthage, Canton, Peru, Newry and Roxbury - have approved the new agreement, while one - Andover - has not, and five have yet to decide. Those towns are Byron, Hanover, Mexico, Dixfield and Rumford, Med-Care board Chairman Steve Brown said Wednesday at the board's meeting.
Decisions by the five towns that have not yet voted are expected to be made later this month and early in June.
Several Andover residents, including three selectmen, attended the board meeting to ask for several amendments to the proposed agreement, and to request a proposal for supplying ambulance service to their town.
Because a majority of voters in the town had voted not to renew the interlocal agreement at their annual March town meeting, Andover is now looking for the best deal to provide service.
A special town meeting will be held in Andover in a couple of weeks to decide what steps to take. The town has asked for proposals from other ambulance services as well.
The Med-Care board overwhelmingly voted to offer Andover the same agreement that other towns in the regional organization will receive. Only Elaine Morton, Andover's representative to the Med-Care board, abstained. No one voted against the proposal.
At issue is the increased costs from each member town needed to pay for the new facility.
Andover Selectman Susan Merrow, in her presentation to the Med-Care board where she suggested several possible amendments, included a request for member-town residents to vote on any capital cost over $250,000.
Several Rumford selectmen have suggested a similar request at past meetings.
However, the Med-Care board is considered a quasi-governmental board with members appointed by member towns who can make such decisions.
The proposed building, including the land and a contingency fund, is estimated to cost about $2 million.
The Med-Care board and Med-Care administrators have proposed that the organization finance the construction through a low-interest loan from the United States Department of Agriculture over a 30-year period.
Brown said that most capital projects have been paid off sooner than the length of the loan.
Merrow was told that since the current, 10-year interlocal agreement expires on June 7, insufficient time is available to try to make any amendments to the agreement. |
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 6:49 AM (Suggest Removal) After seeing the public outcry on this building it is just plain arogant to move ahead on this building. I urge all remaining towns to look for other options. WE PLAIN CAN NOT AFFORD TO BE BLACKMAILED INTO THIS POOR FININCIAL DECISION AT THIS TIME. I do not argue the fine service provided by Med-Care, only the poor timing and the expensive direction this building will take us.
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Posted By:A at May 15, 2008 7:33 AM (Suggest Removal) Perhaps the hospital expansion should include a wing for the housing of an ambulance service of it's own
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Posted By:jar at May 15, 2008 7:36 AM (Suggest Removal) While i agree that its poor timing to entertain a new facility i think a little common sence is in order. Is there one town in the eleven that pays less for Trash removal than there contract with med care? hum didnt think so. so whats more important saving the lives of the ones we love in our communities or GOING TO THE DUMP!
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Posted By:Robert at May 15, 2008 7:39 AM (Suggest Removal) It is unfortunate to see the arrogance of the the town appointees on the Med Care board. They truly don't want the people to have a say on spending. They won't agree to even discuss making changes to the Interlocal Agreement. IT IS TRULY BLACKMAIL ! I would encourage the Rumford Selectmen to stick to their stand. Do not encourage your citizens to vote in favor of the agreement but rather to vote against it. It is time a message is sent to the Med Crae Board members that they are not acting in the best interest of the citizens that they represent.
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Posted By:Concerned at May 15, 2008 8:13 AM (Suggest Removal) Why compare a new ambulance facility to trash removal??? Where is the similarity? It goes without saying that the Med-Care Board should forego any action on the facility this year with all the controversy and confusion at hand. I heard that Peru approved the 10-year extension to their contract - not necessarily the facility. There is a difference.
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Posted By:BRUCE at May 15, 2008 8:16 AM (Suggest Removal) As I recall a few years ago Med-Care sold an ambulance to the Town of Andover for little or no cost. If they don't want Medcare to supply ambulance service, why don't they use the ambulance they got and hire full time medics to run it.
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Posted By:Mel at May 15, 2008 8:50 AM (Suggest Removal) I just hope that the good people of Rumford who are encouraging their "selectmen" to do the right thing are aware of the previous poor judgement they have shown. Med Care is not blackmailing anyone.They provide a service that is unique to our area.They deserve to have a facility that houses the expensive equipment that might someday save your life. They also need a place to spend the downtime that is the nature of the emergency field. If you have a paramedic or EMT that is not able to get the proper rest during a shift of 24 hours, how are they going to be able to think on their feet in the event of an emergency? If you all think that the way to go is like the Andover group then good luck to you. I think that there are some sour grapes out there against Dean Milligan and the whole area will suffer because a few can't play nice.
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Posted By:Facts at May 15, 2008 9:29 AM (Suggest Removal) Sunshine: I think the point they where making was that it is costing towns more for trash removal per year then it will cost a town for Med-care and its new facility. Sunshine: Have you been to the current Med-care facility? Robert: Don't you think your comment sounds arrogant. I haven't heard any board members take personal shots at you. So commenting on here sounds pretty arrogant on your part.
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 9:33 AM (Suggest Removal) I don't listen to anyone and I draw my own conclusions, but the over taxed working class can not afford this project at this time. Med-Care does provide a great service, but we are being blackmailed into this building. Look around you, the only construction going on in the valley is schools, the hospital, Rumford town hall, St. Johns Church. The working
man cannot afford heat and food, say nothing of new additions or buildings. The Med-Care project maybe a sound idea, TODAY IS NOT THE TIME.
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Posted By:Facts at May 15, 2008 9:45 AM (Suggest Removal) sick of it: Did any of these other projects that you mention get the abuse that Med-care is getting?
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 9:47 AM (Suggest Removal) Facts: I believe Robert was talking about the Med-Care Board going forward with this project even though alot of opposition has arisen regarding this project. I would call that arrogance or indifference to the people whom must foot this bill. Are Board members elected or appointed? If I'm not mistaken Joe tax payer has little to do with placing representatives of this board.
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 9:54 AM (Suggest Removal) Was the economy in the area when these projects were started what it is today? Look at the increase in fuel and heat just in the Med-Care budget, Times are changing.
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Posted By:Facts at May 15, 2008 10:01 AM (Suggest Removal) isaac: To answer your question about the economy in the area when the other projects started. Yes it was the same. Alot of these projects have been started in the past year. Also some of the projects are costing alot more to towns then the Med-care project would. So if Med-care shouldn't build a new facility now. Then when should they? In a few years and have it cost 3-4 million.
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Posted By:Facts at May 15, 2008 10:14 AM (Suggest Removal) sick of it(isaac): Why did you change your name?
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Posted By:Bangor at May 15, 2008 10:45 AM (Suggest Removal) fools, you think to much just sit back and go to sleep
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Posted By:Facts at May 15, 2008 10:57 AM (Suggest Removal) The way some of the people on here comment. It sounds alot like the High school kids you hear about on the News fighting on MySpace. Pretty childish.
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Posted By:byron at May 15, 2008 12:26 PM (Suggest Removal) Dixfield doesn't have trash pickup.
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Posted By:oijo at May 15, 2008 12:54 PM (Suggest Removal) We do need ambulance service no argument there, but building a new facility just is not something we can afford. People don't understand that sometimes you just have to "make- do." However, I can afford $19.00 per year. That sounds cheap to me!! Not sure of " you fools" sources, but if that's the cost, then what's the problem?
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 1:29 PM (Suggest Removal) Facts: How come your name isn't here? Med-care employee?
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Posted By:Facts at May 15, 2008 1:41 PM (Suggest Removal) My alias has never changed. Nor will from article to article. Why is it if some isn't against Med-care they have to be a employee. isaac: Why the change in alias? Can't stick with one? That like being 2 faced to me.
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 1:43 PM (Suggest Removal) My taxes in Dixfield just doubled. I think I'm being $19.00 to death.
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 1:55 PM (Suggest Removal) I'm more up front than you, you stand behind your alias. AGAIN THOUGH ARE YOU AN EMPLOYEE? You seemed to over look that Question.
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 2:13 PM (Suggest Removal) The Hospital project started last fall, the school projects:one started last fall and the other started before that. Same with the town office. If you don't think the economy has changed since then you are surely out of touch with the real world. Gas has increased, heating has increased, food prices are climbing weekly and dollars are buying less. So Facts, lets get your facts straight, Look at the real world you live in, most people in the valley are strapped beyond anything they have ever faced. That is a FACT.
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Posted By:sad at May 15, 2008 2:18 PM (Suggest Removal) I wonder if the 11 towns currently had 11 different ambulance services like many do fire would not Stephen Brown and the other board members be praised for this plan. I question also if we are penilizing them for being way ahead of their time as they regionalized twenty years ago. I do not work for Med-Care but I think if you are opposed to the project you should openly listen to my perspective as I have been open and listened to yours. Our parents/grandparents took a way bigger risk when they started this company than we are being asked to risk today. The lending agengy is going to take a very strong look at the project and the financial stability of this company. I ask please in your judging the project and the interlocal agreement which towns carefully selected representatives to make these desisions for them to not judge the board members. These are good honest hard working people who spend alot of time overseeing this business as we have asked them to do. So for selectman to say I did not know or to wait for the final hour of the interlocal and ask for adjustments that seems unreasonable to me. It was your job to know, your representives job to know. This has not been done in secret this board meets many times a year and everyone is kept aware of this step by step. I was at the board meeting last night and the last thing that I ask is why when people have a point or concern to they feel obliged to yell and interrupt and be rude. Your question maybe valid and maybe you have the best point of the night but naturally one retracts from those people and you find yourself not hearing and not trusting. I think this project has been well thought out. I think this board is cautious and open and hard working. I think very intelligent business people sit on this board. Let us please at least respect that.
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Posted By:Facts at May 15, 2008 3:58 PM (Suggest Removal) isaac (sick of it): Last fall isn't that in the past year? The fuel prices and heating cost haven't just started to go up. I think you should realize yourself that these have been going up for years. Not just the last few months that is a fact. I agree people are strapped. But, why are people so concerned about Med-cares budget. Look at the school budgets how millions a year are they. There aren't anyone crying about being strapped on those articles. Why Med-care? Oh and to answer your question. Yes, I do work for Med-care and damn proud of it. I'm also proud to work with my co-workers. They are a very good group of professional that try to serve all 11 towns as best as they can. Everyone of them are proud of what they do for the public. How would the people that are against Med-care like if people were going after their place they work. Lets try and put all your jobs on the line and see how that make you feel. As for hide behind a alias. I think that should be stated to all that is on this blog.
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 4:33 PM (Suggest Removal) I have never downed the service Med-Care provides just the large sum of money rammed down our throats at this time. Med-Care provides an excellant service in the building their in. Simply put now is not the time and certainly not in the manner it has been put to the voters. A little better public relations certainly would have helped, but to steam ahead after all the questions that have been raised shows poor judgement. But what do I know, I just should shutup and help foot the bill, right.
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Posted By:Facts at May 15, 2008 4:51 PM (Suggest Removal) Now can you answer my questions. Why Med-care's budget? Why wheren't the other projects questioned? Why not the big deal over them? What did they do to make people fine with their larger costs of their projects?
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Posted By:isaac at May 15, 2008 5:06 PM (Suggest Removal) Med-Cares budget because at this time it is too expensive and not needed. The hospital is a private business and made a private decision. The town office (Rumford) did not effect my taxes. The church is one I do not belong to. The school buildings I have opposed and continue to oppose budgets out of control. They didn't have my way or the highway managers or boards. Anything else I can answer for you I will. This thing has been poorly managed and one of the reasons I will continue to oppose it is the way management has treated the guys whom pay the bills, with total disrespect, my way or the highway. The people that respond are the greatest. The way management handled with the public pretty much seems baby grade. I think most people would just ask management to step back and give the people paying the bill a chance to think this though and make wise decisions. Why right now?
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Posted By:Read it Right at May 15, 2008 5:31 PM (Suggest Removal) Isaac, a fully stocked ambulance, ready to be used, costs approximately $250,000.00. Six of those ambulances cost $1.5 million dollars. Why doesn't it seem like a good idea to put these pieces of equipment in a building to protect that investment. Right now, Med-Care has a half-million dollars worth of equipment sitting outside under tarps. and for the little bit extra from each person, it doesn;t seem like such an extravagance.
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