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Future of mill unclear

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Saturday, July 26, 2008

LEWISTON - The fate of the massive mill building at the corner of Main and Canal streets remained uncertain Friday, the deadline for developers to submit proposals for redevelopment.

At the close of business, only one proposal had been submitted for Bates Mill No. 5, the nearly 100-year-old weave shed that stands at the city's western gateway. The proposal was delivered late Friday.

Despite the deadline, if other viable proposals for the mill come in, they could still be considered, City Council Chairman Tom Peters said.

"We're not going to slam the door because it's a few days late," he said.

He said the city would take as much time as it needed to review any proposal. The council directed city staff in May to conduct a national search for a developer willing to undertake the revitalization of the 345,000-square-foot mill.

Peters wouldn't have been surprised if there were no submissions, given the challenges of reviving the hulking giant in today's economy. But the scant reply didn't dim his enthusiasm for the potential of the mill site, as well as its neighbors along the city's riverfront and canal system.

To allow for better planning of the area's future, Peters asked city staff three weeks ago to schedule a discussion on adopting a moratorium for downtown development.

"I don't want us looking at that area six months from now and asking 'What happened?'" said Peters, speculating on the possibility of unwanted development, such as a gas station on Lisbon Street where the old Marco's restaurant once stood.

He said the fate of a number of properties, including the burned-out block on Lisbon Street and Mill No. 5, give the city a rare opportunity to re-envision the downtown and what its future could be. To that end, Peters has been meeting informally with a group of people to brainstorm.

The moratorium is expected to be discussed at an Aug. 11 joint meeting of the City Council and Planning Board. Steve Morgan, chairman of the Planning Board, said he planned to let his board know of the topic at its meeting Monday.

Since the moratorium has not been enacted, Morgan said he had no opinion about it. But he did note that the board has historically deferred on passing moratoriums because they tie members' hands. The last requested moratorium was declined in April when staff asked for a ban on clubs and bars near the Oak Street elderly housing complex to curb rowdiness.

"Moratoriums often just stall decision-making," Morgan said. "We have preferred to deal with issues on a case-by-case basis."

Lincoln Jeffers, city development director, said to his knowledge, no moratorium language has been submitted to the city. He doubts it would imperil any projects in the pipeline that might benefit the area, such as the Marriott Courtyard near the Cowan Mill.

"I think they're looking to ensure that development downtown supports downtown revitalization as opposed to limiting it," he said.

Peters said he wants to see the downtown's future considered with a wider lens than was used by the task force that spent a year studying redevelopment options for Mill No. 5.

"The task force essentially came up with two options: knock it down or build a convention center," Peters said. "The convention center is not viable. So if we knock it down, then what? I've been looking for a longer-term plan."

He said a new approach centered on developing the city's water assets - its canal system and river - could bring new jobs and make the city a destination for many people from western Maine. Without that influx, downtown development will stagnate.

"If we don't draw from a larger catchment area of people, then we'll end up opening four new restaurants and closing two," he said.

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Posted By:Michael at July 26, 2008 6:03 AM (Suggest Removal)
Just an idea........Get the youth involved, since so many teanagers and mid 20's people need good paying jobs around here. Please take a look at our vast untapped youth and what careers they might be able to suite in that complex. Na na thats a dumb idea lets open a career center that never has any new job opertunitys.........

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Posted By:maggie at July 26, 2008 6:40 AM (Suggest Removal)
TEAR IT DOWN!!

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Posted By:bill at July 26, 2008 7:17 AM (Suggest Removal)
I haven't done business in the Lewiston downtown area for years. Why? I'm not walking or parking my car in that area of the city. Look at the Lewiston Crime Bulletin that appears in the SJ every other day. MV burglaries, assualts, and various types of criminal mischief including cars being shot at by paint balls. Common sense tell us to stay away! Get rid of the undesireables and then people will come.

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Posted By:Independent Voter at July 26, 2008 9:02 AM (Suggest Removal)
Level the place. It is a dump. It is time for Lewiston to stop glamourizing the past and get into the 21st century. Anyone who worked in the mills and has romantic thoughts about their time their is looney tunes. It was hot, dirty, smelly, noisy and dangerous. Cotton dust clobbered the lungs and the noise ruined hearing. Level it.

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Posted By:Skip at July 26, 2008 12:12 PM (Suggest Removal)
Independent Voter,I worked in that place for ten years and I know you couldn't be more right.It was everything you said and it should be leveled.Now Bill,I don't know what he was rambling on about but it wasn't about Mill #5.

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Posted By:Chad at July 26, 2008 12:56 PM (Suggest Removal)
Work with Bank of America on some Historic tax credits. Sell the credits to Fallenbrook Capital. Take the proceeds and roll thru a JP Morgan Chase platform. Quite simple really although most people around here have no experience in such ventures. Redevelop the mill, rebuild the canal system to generate extra electricity, add some solar panels, and quit bitching about it finally.

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Posted By:robert at July 26, 2008 3:07 PM (Suggest Removal)
Maggie and Indep Voter...what visionaries you are. Do you even have an idea of the cost to tear down this building? Well I can help since I worked on the redevelopment of the Bates Mille Complex for 2 years...you are looking at somewhere north of $5 million. I remember the same type of visionaries calling me to say that this place will never get developed. The funny thing is, I don't seem to hear from them now that TD Banknorth, Divinci's and the other businesses are there. The place looks great and there are people working, playing, visiting etc. I don't know about ypou but that sounds like a vibrant place to me. By the way Indep v...there are MANY people who worked at this mill and helped make this community what it is and to generalize them by calling them "looney tunes" is insulting!

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Posted By:bill at July 26, 2008 3:24 PM (Suggest Removal)
Well Skip if you had read the article with comprehension, it spoke about being careful as to what goes into the old Marco's lot on Lisbon St. That's what I was rambling about. I agree, Bates #5 should be leveled if no one is interested in buying it. Cut your losses now. Sorry I struck a cord about your dear City of Lewiston but if you read the paper, that part of Lewiston is less than a desirable place to roam when it gets dark. In some cases even in daylight. I disliked going through that parking garage on a Saturday evening after a meal with my wife and children at the old Marco's. That restaurant would have gotten much more of my money had it been in its present location back then. Things would change in Lewiston if they didn't make it so darn inviting for the people that would rather not work.

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Posted By:Skip at July 26, 2008 8:13 PM (Suggest Removal)
Bill,sorry to offend you,but I wasn't getting the connection between parking and the old mill that you made.It doesn't strike a cord with me in any form.I could not care less about Lewiston,I only worked there.And I think it would cost more to refurbish the old mill than it would to raze the place.After 100 years what shape can the foundation be in?I know the roof is in poor condition and would need replacing as would all the oil and grease soaked hardwood floors.

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Posted By:Independent Voter at July 26, 2008 8:43 PM (Suggest Removal)
robert...I know more about the re-development of the Bates Mill than you will ever know. I fully support the redevelopment of Mills 1, 2, 3, 6 and 7. I am totally against the re-development of Mill 5. The facts are that the mill has been vacant for 15 years, in some of the best times that Maine has (and will) know. The building is crap and I guess we'll have to look at it rot for another 15 years. Perhaps you can understand this: the building is obselete. As to the romantic dreams of former millworkers: I worked in several weave rooms, the dye shack, the card room, the spinning room, the cloth hall and the yard. I worked my way through college at the Bates. It wasn't as bad as my one day stint at Hillcrest Poultry, but it was not a nice place to work. The Francos were exploited by the mill owners and Lewiston's economic development was arrested for decades by the mill owners keeping more diverse industry out of town so that could continue to mule-whip the Francos. If you want to celebrate the romantic Bates Manufacturing, go ahead. It was a paycheck, and that was it. And if you think Lewiston can make Mill 5 work, you are a fool. You might want to listen to Bud Lewis. It is a money pit. Good luck if you are a Lewiston taxpayer.

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Posted By:Kelly at July 26, 2008 10:38 PM (Suggest Removal)
Stop the bleeding and move on, just like the Colisee. Gilbert will save Lewiston yet.

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