Tri-Town wants to keep lifeline to communities
By M. Dirk Langeveld
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Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
WEST PARIS - Members of Tri-Town Rescue Service and its board of directors said Monday that they want to keep the service active.
The meeting, held before selectmen and the public, aimed at addressing the source of recent conflict between the Tri-Town board and its employees and steps that have been taken toward resolving it.
"There's obviously been a lack of communication between us and our board of directors," said Allison Ross, the interim chief of the service.
Ross said employees were "left out of the loop" during the restructuring of the board's bylaws, but that the board has been more inclusive in the past months.
"This is a step forward in communication," said employee Nigel Lussier of the meeting. "They've been a little more forward with us in the past months."
Board Chairwoman Dorene Wilbur said the interaction between the board and employees has improved, and the board intends to keep Tri-Town functional.
"I don't see any problem why Tri-Town can't go ahead," she said.
Tri-Town employees said Monday that they were against the firing of former service Chief Norman St. Pierre in June.
Wilbur said she was unable to give the reason why St. Pierre was fired because it was a personnel issue.
However, St. Pierre has said he was fired for hiring an employee who carried a concealed weapon and not doing proper background checks on employees. St. Pierre had also accused the board of misappropriating funds, which the board's attorney has denied.
"Maybe if a lot of rumors were stopped, we would all be better off," Wilbur said. "That is hurting everyone." Wilbur said a new board will be coming in on Thursday, although some towns have not yet elected directors to serve a two-year term. Tri-Town covers the towns of West Paris, Greenwood, Woodstock, and Sumner, as well as Milton Plantation.
Town Manager Vern Maxfield of Woodstock said Lee Graham was appointed on Aug. 19 and will become the town's new representative on the board. Cindy Norton, treasurer of Sumner, said Susan Litchfield will be reappointed as the town's representative.
West Paris will elect a representative on Thursday, and Greenwood will elect a representative on Sept. 2. The towns are currently represented by Mary Emery and Rodney Harrington, respectively.
The board's new bylaws, which are available at the town offices of the represented areas, state that the board of directors will include up to nine people. Each town will appoint a representative, and the remaining five members would be elected by the existing directors.
The bylaws allow the board to remove directors by vote, and also state that the board may remove the service chief. Employees of the service cannot serve on the board.
Directors do not need to be residents of Maine, but Harrington said the board is subject to state laws.
Selectmen in Greenwood and West Paris have withheld a quarterly payment to the service. Future meetings will determine whether the funds will be released.
"They felt they were not being informed and updated by the Tri-Town board, as they felt they should," Greenwood Town Manager Kim Sparks said.
Greenwood and West Paris have also sent out requests for proposals to Tri-Town and three other ambulance services to determine whether they should change services. Sparks said one of the requirements of the proposals would include a written contract, which Tri-Town does not hold with any of the towns it services.
Sumner selectmen made a conditional vote last month to change service to PACE Ambulance, but a final decision has not been made on the matter.
Ross said the service has a mutual aid agreement with PACE for emergency calls, and that Tri-Town will aim to acquire more paramedics. However, she said basic responders at Tri-Town will be able to arrive before PACE in the coverage area and provide immediate medical care.
"They will save your life," Ross said.
Employee Chris DeCapua said the concern of the service was not politics, but providing a rescue service.
"We're going to be there," DeCapua said. "That's the bottom line." |
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Posted By:WPSmokeScreen at August 27, 2008 9:47 AM (Suggest Removal) When is this paper going to start reporting the news? Yes, everything above did happen in that meeting, but there was a lot more. I happened to have sat through that meeting and heard a lot of good questions go unanswered. What is the future of Tri-Town? The response was, ‘Keep going.’ How are communications going to improve specifically? Don’t think there was an answer there except some report with the calls they ran on it once a year which apparently was sent out but no one seemed to have gotten it. What are the goals of the service, the business plan? No answers that I remember. What is the cost going to be? Cost of the new Chief? The new board will figure that out. What I do remember was a bunch of employees continuing to fight with the Board and talking like they were in a Union of some sort and all wanting to be the boss. Mad that they were not 'members' anymore and now they are employees, which they are. Save a couple of them who seemed to have their heads on right. These employees are simply riding the wave of an old reputation that was established by the fine folks who actually used to live in this area and who actually used to volunteer their time. This is just an easy part time job for them now at a private business which the towns pay into. I wish the town would pay into my business when I can't make my bottom line. And pace has offered to do what Tri-Town is doing for no subsidy. I live right up the road from that terrible call the other morning and pace arrived at the same time as Tri-Town. What makes sense here? Will Tri-Town ever provide a pension or insurance to its employees? Will the goal ever be no subsidy? Everyone seems to assume that the station is full of people all the time when it simply is not. In fact I've heard Tri-Town employees responding from Norway when they only have one person on duty. Does that make any sense? That whole meeting was a smoke screen folks.
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Posted By:ConcernedCommunityMember at August 27, 2008 3:32 PM (Suggest Removal) My question is this? How many trucks does Pace have and just how many towns can Pace cover? From Harrison to West Paris & Sumner, to Otisfield - with three trucks? Take a breath! I support Tri-Town because I believe that rural towns need immediate assistance. You think Pace is going to give towns people a break on their bill if they can't afford to pay? You think Pace has a vested interest in the service to the surrounding communities? You don't think that Pace has its fair share of disgruntled employees? The smoke screen here is people's lack of understanding the importance of EMS and Tri-Town's Board lack of communication to the towns and the personnnel of Tri Town Rescue.
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Posted By:concerned resident at August 27, 2008 5:24 PM (Suggest Removal) Tri-town says they are staffed 24/7. How many times does Tri-town tone out for drivers? I've heard that at times there is only a driver at the station at night and no licensed personel. Or again, just one person who is a emt. I listen to a scanner and hear tri-town toning for pace numerous times while the tritown truck waits for a driver or emt. Pace is usually on the road within a couple min after the tone. And I too heared on that tragic morning, the pace truck arrived on scene in west paris maybe a couple miles down from the rescue barn the same time tri town did. and they didn't get toned atleast 5 min after the initial tri town tone went off. AND there was a PARAMEDIC. I don't know about you people, but if a service is willing to come in for free and will be at the paramedic level 24/7, so my tax money can go to other things the town needs then by all means! Wake up people!
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Posted By:concerned resident at August 27, 2008 6:02 PM (Suggest Removal) As for the truck situation...tri town has "24/7" coverage with one truck...how long do you think it would take to get a second crew in, if it takes mins to get a full crew for the first truck? Pace is staffed with 2 24/7 trucks, a 12 hr truck and has many paramedics and emt's who live in the area who can go in off the back-up tone.
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Posted By:WPSmokeScreen at August 27, 2008 6:28 PM (Suggest Removal) Well, how many towns does Med-Care cover, or that outfit in Farmington? And they all share employees with one another, so my guess is that their commitment to the communities is the same no matter where they are. Could you please describe this 24/7 coverage to me since I know there are times when there is no oone at that rescue barn? Could you also please describe the breaks that Tri-Town gives out on billing because as I understand it, that is a violation of some insurance law. And who says pace won't put a truck up here for that immediate assistance you assume you are getting? Has anyone asked them?
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Posted By:rightwinger at August 27, 2008 7:22 PM (Suggest Removal) I don't write in usually, but I have to say something here, especially after hearing that guy coming from Norway again to go to a call in Milton tonight which makes no sense at all. Given the times we are in, even though gas has dipped slightly, its probably only going to get worse along with the economy. No one can afford more taxes. We simply have got to do more with less. I really want to see how much it would cost the towns if Tri-Town were to have ambulance crews in the station in West Paris with paramedics round the clock like Med-Care or Pace. After the latest drama in Rumford, I'd rather not go that route until that mess is squared away, and from what I'm hearing Pace is making a no subsidy offer. So what makes sense here? And lets look at the facts. How many employees actually live within the Tri-Town area anymore? Maybe 2, and the rest just use this as an easy part time job as was said above (I also agree with the benefits portion of that statement, how can Tri-Town do that?). Then a Tri-Town employee driving their car from Norway, probably right past Pace to come and get the ambulance in West Paris to go on a call? How does that make sense? Whos liable if he crashes along the way? Its almost fanatical! How long has Pace been covering our butt over here anyway? They go on almost every call now. And now they are willing to do it tax free! Come on people! Stop taxing me, cut the cord, and start making some sense!
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Posted By:Jay at August 27, 2008 9:40 PM (Suggest Removal) Avg yrs of employment at Pace is what? 8yrs. They have 8 to ten ex service chiefs working there, including two local fire chief's and a couple deputy chiefs. Pace has Three Paramedics with thirty yearsor more of experience in EMS. The only disgruntled employees are those who are part time and haven't been hired full time yet. They have files of people who are waiting to work there. If there are disgruntles people it is funny that they haven't left!
Tri-Town rescue has been and is a very good rescue with great people. Yes I work at Pace. I have had great experience with Tri Town. I worked very well with Norm St Pierre. We really don't know what the drama is all about.
We (at least I am)and Pace are all about getting the highest trained personnel to people as fast as we can. If Tri Town continues, great, someone will get there. If they are responding from Norway, well so can we, and is that responsible? This is about MAKING a decision about getting the highest trained people to the sick and injured as fast as possible.
Time= Life.
To the RFP ers, Pace has been covering your towns for years with or without TriTown, and you want to send out an RFP? Ohhh Kay.
Regardless, if Tri Town calls we'll go. If Tri Town is no longer viable and you call...we'll go.
I will extend myself and say, I have had nothing but good experiences with the people at Tri Town and bethel Rescue for that matter. They do a great job. When Tri Town is fully staffed, the system works.
There are roughly 800 paramedics covering 1.3 million people in Maine. Paramedics are expensive, mainly because they have to devote soo much time to training and maintaining skill levels. And it is devotion considering responsibilty vs pay levels.
Please make a decision. I am sure Pace and Stephen's is more than willing to help either way. Either helping Tri Town build up to where it should be...or whatever...
the goal is to get trained people to the far flung area's in Oxford County as fast and as efficiently and as economically as possible.
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Posted By:what do you know? at August 28, 2008 6:48 AM (Suggest Removal) i would first like to say that there is no such thing as an easy part time job when it comes to saving or losing lives, so you can take those uneducated comments and put them some place useful, im sure you can figure it out. second, how fast do you think pace is driving to get to west paris and other outlying areas in that amount of time? do you want your family subjected to that on a daily basis? maybe they will hit somebody at 100 mph and cause an even bigger emergency. third, how long do you think pace will do this for zero subsidy? i can tell you. just long enough to drive out any other rescue service, and once the residents are over the barrel i GUARANTEE you will be looking at 50-70k per year per town for a subsidy. wake up, nobody works for free!! fourth, you are idiots to be willing to pay for pace or a similar service when you are already getting them at the price of tri town on alot of calls, think about that. and then of course the board, once again, managed to walk away from thae meeting without answering any of the hard questions or telling the truth. st. pierre was fired because of personality conflicts, and the fact that he was not the yes man the board wanted. what they used for an excuse was at best, lame! the board of directors is still hiding behind bylaws and executive sessions, and until the current board is removed not much will be different. the board insisted that the removal of st. pierre would remedy the difficulties that were ongoing, well guess what, he's gone and it seems to have only gotten worse. maybe the board should be removed, and st. pierre reinstated and see what changes come about! the board of directors have no practical training in ems, and therefore are not qualified to run a rescue service. they need to learn to stick to the business end of the show, and let the professionals handle the real work of saving lives. this isn't a little club for the board to decide who stays and who goes, what needs to be done and what doesnt. this is a real life or death situation for the people who need the service, and the board is trying to stand in the way of service by sticking their noses where they don't belong! if the owner of hmmmmmm a jewelry store tried to tell me about jewelry i would listen to her, but what can the board members, who have no ems training tell me about saving lives or what it takes to run a rescue service? i would guess not too much. it's time to wake up and look at the big picture. tri town is good for this area, and with proper leadership, will prosper.
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Posted By:US Soldier at August 28, 2008 9:21 AM (Suggest Removal) First off about how fast does pace drive...how fast do people drive to get to the tri-town base or scene with maybe a dashlight? From what I heard over a scanner, pace arrived on scene and a few minutes later a driver from norway arrived (both left from norway)...last I checked ambulances have 360 degree emergency lighting and sirens, granted that doesn't mean they can speed but that is what you need to request the right of way from what I understand...how fast was that driver driving in his OWN vehicle to get to the scene a couple min after pace arrived with maybe a dashlight...or even worse just their 4-ways going? Like stated earlier...who's liable if that person causes a wreck or gets into one? Second, it is to my knowledge that no town that pace covers pays any subsidy from otisfield to hebron to harrison. A service that is backed by a hospital and isn't a private service doesn't need the subsidy as bad as private ones do. And I believe that pace is actually backed by two hospitals since SMH is partnered/owned by Maine Medical Center in Portland. They probably recover in the high 90s% on insurance recovery and I'm sure the hospital is willing to work with someone who doesn't have insurance. But again, how about not using our taxes to pay for a rescue, when there is one willing to come in for free and put our money to our roads, public buildings and even the fire department where tax money should go...Besides it being a rescue...it's a private business. What's different (again besides it being a rescue service) then good old joe's plumbing coming to the town saying I can't do plumbing without "X" amount of money. He's a private company. Should your tax money go to him too? Tri-town 24/7 coverage...say they do have two people at base when a call goes out. That truck leaves...I don't hear them tone out for additional crew to respond to cover so now you just lost your 24/7 coverage because they one truck is out now. Again, 24/7 paramedic coverage for tri town will cost the towns even more! PARAMEDICS aren't cheap because of their skills and education. How many LICENSED Paramedic services are out there? PACE, UNITED, MEDCU, DELTA, maybe a couple others..not many. These services guarrentee a paramedic on every 911 call. I'm sure every one of those services are partly/totally owned by a hospital. Then there are some out there who are permitted to the Medic level. Permitted meaning they can have a medic on their trucks but they don't have to. So it's a coin flip.
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Posted By:Greenwood City at August 28, 2008 7:13 PM (Suggest Removal) It appears to me that anything that Tr-Town rescue has done lately hasnt been what the taxpayers want to hear. Questions were asked at the meeting directly to the "acting administration of Tri Town and nothing was said...Doesnt it seem funny that Tri-town doesnt tone Pace automatically when there is a call that requires advanced life support. Could it be that they are afriad that Pace will get there before them and take the call and then Tr-Town wouldnt get the billing money...sounds awfully close to a Med Care game. Bottom line I trust my life with Pace over the 18 years they have been in business they have done great things for the community. The are an affiliation with Stephens Memorial Hospital which is affiliated with Maine Medical Center which is one of the premere hospitals in the USA. If the towns vote with Pace, they have a say in what happens because the town managers can talk directly with hospital administration. Who do the town managers talk to now to get answers???????
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Posted By:wheresthecrew at August 29, 2008 2:33 PM (Suggest Removal) Well there would not have been any good feelings for headlights shining through kitchen windows last night unless it was a crew from Norway driving by. Those who actually spent the time to go to the meeting will know what that's all about. Went by TriTown and the lights were out, no cars in the lot. I stopped in and no one was there. Both trucks were in the station. So is that the 24/7 coverage we were talking about. Waiting for people to drive to the station to get the ambulance and then go to the call. Seems to me that other services could be in town by the time that happens.
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Posted By:what do you know? at August 29, 2008 3:54 PM (Suggest Removal) i have a couple of answers to the questions and statements above. first of all i guess if someone gets hit by a speeding ambulance with lights and sirens, they will be alot less dead? that seems to be the idea from some genius who wrote in above. secondly, the sleeping quarter at tri town are in the back of the garage. we cant hear you at the door if we are out there. why dont you go to another rescue service in the middle of the night and see how many people run to the door!!! call 911 if you have an emergency, otherwise you can mind your own business. i know for a fact that people were there because i was one of them!!! third, apparently the current board, according to the board chair, wishes to discipline crew members for their statements at the public meeting. there's a big surprise. once again we don't do or say what they think we should and somebody's got to go!! why don't they go. tri town rescue will survive without the board or it's illegal auxilliary. in fact they can all resign, we'd do better without them!
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