McCain says he's agent of change
Friday, September 5, 2008
ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - John McCain, a POW turned political rebel, vowed Thursday night to vanquish the "constant partisan rancor" that grips Washington as he launched his fall campaign for the White House. "Change is coming," he promised the roaring Republican National Convention and a prime-time television audience.
"Fight with me. Fight with me. Fight with me. Fight for what's right for our country," he urged in a convention crescendo.
To repeated cheers from his delegates, McCain made only passing reference to an unpopular George W. Bush and criticized fellow Republicans as well as Democratic rival Barack Obama in reaching out to independents and swing voters who will pick the next president.
"We were elected to change Washington, and we let Washington change us," he said of the Republicans who controlled Congress for a dozen years before they were voted out of office in 2006.
As for Obama, he said, "I will keep taxes low and cut them where I can. My opponent will raise them. I will cut government spending. He will increase it."
McCain's wife, Cindy, and ticketmate Sarah Palin and her husband joined him on stage as tens of thousands red, white and blue balloons cascaded from high above the convention floor.
Unlike Obama's speech a week ago, McCain offered no soaring oratory until his speech-ending summons to fight for the country's future.
But his own measured style left the hall in cheers, and as is his habit in campaign stops around the country, he stepped off the stage to plunge into the crowd after his speech. Palin joined him, embraced by the jubilant throng.
McCain touched only briefly on the Iraq war - a conflict that Obama has vowed to end. "I fought for the right strategy and more troops in Iraq, when it wasn't a popular thing to do," the Republican said, adding that in the months since, the long-suffering nation had been spared from defeat. McCain's appearance was the climax of the final night of the party convention, coming after delegates made Palin the first female vice presidential nominee in Republican history.
"She stands up for what's right and she doesn't let anyone tell her to sit down," McCain said of the woman who has faced intense scrutiny in the week since she was picked.
"And let me offer an advance warning to the old, big-spending, do-nothing, me-first, country-second Washington crowd: Change is coming," McCain declared.
McCain and Palin were departing their convention city immediately after the Arizona senator's acceptance speech, bound for Wisconsin and an early start on the final weeks of the White House campaign.
McCain, at 72 bidding to become the oldest first-term president, drew a roar from the convention crowd when he walked out onto the stage lighted by a single spotlight. He was introduced by a video that dwelt heavily on his time spent as a prisoner of war in Vietnam and as a member of Congress, hailed for a "faithful unyielding love for America, country first."
"USA, USA, USA," chanted the crowd in the hall.
McCain faced a delicate assignment as he formally accepted his party's presidential nomination: presenting his credentials as a reformer willing to take on his own party and stressing his independence from an unpopular President Bush - all without breaking faith with his Republican base.
He set about it methodically.
"After we've won, we're going to reach out our hand to any willing patriot, make this government start working for you again," he said, and he pledged to invite Democrats and independents to serve in his administration.
He mentioned Bush only in passing, as the leader who led the country through the days after the terror attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
And there was plenty for conservative Republicans to cheer - from his pledge to free the country from the grip of its dependence on foreign oil, to a vow to have schools answer to parents and students rather than "unions and entrenched bureaucrats."
A man who has clashed repeatedly with Republicans in Congress, he said proudly, "I've been called a maverick. Sometimes it's meant as a compliment and sometimes it's not. What it really means is I understand who I work for.
"I don't work for a party. I don't work for a special interest. I don't work for myself. I work for you."
Thousands of red, white and blue balloons nestled in netting above the convention floor, to be released on cue for the traditional celebratory convention finale.
Given McCain's political mission, it was left to other Republicans to deliver much of the criticism aimed at Obama.
In the race for the White House, "It's not about building a record, it's about having one," said former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge. "It's not about talking pretty, it's about talking straight."
McCain invoked the five years he spent in a North Vietnamese prison. "I fell in love with my country when I was a prisoner in someone else's," he said. "I was never the same again. I wasn't my own man anymore. I was my country's."
The last night of the McCain-Palin convention also marked the end of an intensive stretch of politics with the potential to reshape the race for the White House. Democrats held their own convention last week in Denver, nominating Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden as running mate for Obama, whose own acceptance speech drew an estimated 84,000 partisans to an outdoor football stadium.
The polls indicate a close race between McCain and Obama, at 47 a generation younger than his Republican opponent, with the outcome likely to be decided in scattered swing states in the industrial Midwest and the Southwest.
Ahead lie the traditional major checkpoints - presidential and vice presidential debates, millions of dollars in ads - but also the unscripted, spontaneous moments that can take on outsized importance in the race to pick a president.
Before he spoke Thursday night, Cindy McCain recommended her husband to the crowd - and the nation. "If Americans want straight talk and the plain truth they should take a good close look at John McCain, a man tested and true who's never wavered in his devotion to our country," she said. She called him "a man who's served in Washington without ever becoming a Washington insider."
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., also had a speaking slot, and he used it to criticize McCain's rival. He said Obama and the liberal group MoveOn.org were the only ones who didn't realize that Bush's decision to deploy additional troops to Iraq last year had succeeded.
Ridge's turn at the podium came after he had been mentioned prominently in speculation about a running mate.
That was an honor that went unexpectedly to Palin, the first female vice presidential candidate in party history, a 44-year-old Alaska governor virtually unknown nationally a week ago.
In the days since, she has faced a storm of scrutiny, some of it relating to her tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, and her time as governor, but most involving her 17-year-old unmarried daughter who is pregnant.
For the most part, McCain's aides have kept Palin out of public sight while vociferously defending her readiness to become president. She emerged Wednesday night during prime time to deliver a smiling, sarcastic attack on Obama that generated roars of approval - and acceptance - from the delegates.
She followed up in the hours before McCain's convention appearance with a meeting with Republican governors and a fundraising appeal that blamed Democrats for spreading "misinformation and flat-out lies" about her family and her.
Even so, there were fresh questions about her readiness to sit one chair away from the Oval Office.
McCain has cited her authority over the Alaska National Guard as one example. But in a memo last spring, Air Force Maj. Gen. Craig Campbell warned that "missions are at risk" in the state's units because of a personnel shortage. The lack of qualified airmen, Campbell said, "has reached a crisis level."
In an interview on Wednesday with The Associated Press, Campbell said the situation has improved since then, but not enough to eliminate his concern that shortages will result in the burnout of troops.
McCain won the presidential nomination late Wednesday night in an anticlimactic vote that followed a campaign lasting most of a decade. He first ran for the White House in 2000, but lost the Republican nomination to Bush in a bruising struggle. He began the current campaign the Republican front-runner, but his chances seemed to collapse last winter when opposition to the Iraq war rose among independents and conservatives grew upset over his backing for legislation to give illegal immigrants a path toward citizenship.
In one of the most remarkable comebacks in recent times, he recovered to win the New Hampshire primary in early January, then wrapped up the nomination on Feb. 5 with big-state primary victories on Super Tuesday.
Obama, campaigning in swing-state Pennsylvania on Thursday, said he wasn't surprised at Palin's criticism of him, and said Democrats intended to focus on her record.
"I think she's got a compelling story, but I assume she wants to be treated the same way that guys want to be treated," he said. "I've been through this 19 months, she's been through it - what - four days so far?"
Obama's campaign announced it had raised roughly $10 million from more than 130,000 donors since Palin delivered her speech Wednesday night.
Outside the hall, police on horseback thwarted plans by anti-war demonstrators to march on the convention hall.
Scattered protesters inside interrupted his speech briefly near the start. He dismissed them, telling the crowd not to be diverted by "ground noise and static."
Not far from the convention center, police rounded up about 200 protesters on a bridge over Interstate 94. Caught up were reporters from several media outlets, including two AP reporters.
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Posted By:Gordon at September 5, 2008 6:33 AM (Suggest Removal) John Mcbush: Old geezer+ Unelectable= This yrs. republican ticket. I am a registered Republican voting for Obama.
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Posted By:Joe at September 5, 2008 6:36 AM (Suggest Removal) Sorry, John. you were there for the past 8 years. Where was the change as you followed 95% of Bushes leads? Palin decries Washington establishment, which is exactly what McCain is. The "fight with me" cry is pathetic. You are just fighting what you have spent a lifetime creating, John. We don't want a soldier, we want a president.
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Posted By:linda at September 5, 2008 6:40 AM (Suggest Removal) We understand, and appreciate his 5 years as a POW.... and ya know what? we have men in my town who were also POW's...THEY are hero's also.....but They don't decide that being a POW makes them a presidential candidate! In fact, you have to drag it out these men to discuss their time as POW's....they are very proud men, that served their country well, and no less then McSame did....he is no more special, or any more deserving, then ALL the former POW'S..he is tooting THAT way to much...people are sick of hearing it...and other war POW's are even tired of it...tell us about NOW....not the past....just because he is a POW does NOT make him president material...and thats seems to be his biggest campaign hoopla...
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Posted By:Lil at September 5, 2008 6:44 AM (Suggest Removal) Not only has McSame been Bush's biggest cheerleader for 8 years, he's dropped all pretense of being moderate and gone full blown radical right wing. Privatize social security and education? More wars, less jobs? More tax cuts for the rich? He's more or less made it clear he does NOT want to be elected.
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Posted By:cs at September 5, 2008 7:29 AM (Suggest Removal) I can't wait until November. I'd love to stay and tear your sad little cracks at a national hero and the strong, Conservative woman he's chosen (makes Hillary look like a thug, nut then again...), but I have to go work so I can pay mine ,and some of yours, "fair share" of taxes. McCain/Palin '08, even sounds a lot better than Obama bin Biden. Nobama
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Posted By:VAN SMACK at September 5, 2008 7:34 AM (Suggest Removal) lil, linda, joe, gordon. is that all you have that he is the same as Bush. you will need more than a community organizer and that to defeat mcclain/palin. B.O. will win the state of maine easy and other blue state but this country is conservative and you will find out that in november. P.s. in 20years W will be consider a very good President. Today people are stupid enough to listen to the lib. media without looking deep into the facts.
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Posted By:NightCrawler at September 5, 2008 7:46 AM (Suggest Removal) OK, what I've read so far are platitudes and generalized falsehoods. Can ANY of you provide evidence to back up your reckless statements? Joe, show us your SOURCES for your "95% of Bush's leads" comment. Linda, show us your SOURCES for the "other war POW's are even tired of it" comment. Lil, how about you? You're the biggest windbag in here. Show YOUR sources for your McCain "being Bush's biggest cheeleader for 8 years, for the "dropped all pretense of being moderate and gone full blown radical right wing" comment, more war/less jobs comment, and tax cuts for the rich statement. Is that too much to ask? PROVE your reckless lies and nauseating hypocrisy. Please note that the latest edition of the black messiah's playbook doesn't pass muster as proof.
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Posted By:ROCKO at September 5, 2008 7:48 AM (Suggest Removal) Exactly what did he say last night???NOTHING!!!Im a GREAT AMERICAN vote for me Ill lower taxes for the RICH,I cannt get jobs back but Ill try and give you a little more unemployment unti; walmart is hiring and if you cannt afford anything thats ok Ill fix SSI Ill take it away from you after all who needs it,only difference between a PittBull and a hockey mom.....lipstick, GIVE ME A BREAK, just what I want to hear from a VP!!! MORE of the same wrap me up and red,white and blue and Ill screw you for four more years!
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Posted By:Lil at September 5, 2008 8:09 AM (Suggest Removal) Here's one: According to a CQ analysis of Senate votes on issues President Bush expressed an explicit, stated opinion, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) voted with President Bush 100 percent of the time in 2008 and 95 percent of the time in 2007. Does that work? Or do you only want to hear about the votes that took place on the 2nd Wednesday of every month with in "r" in it?
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Posted By:cranky yankee at September 5, 2008 8:23 AM (Suggest Removal) McShame wants us to give the Republicans a second chance? Uh, let's see, make that a fourth, fifth, sixth chance. First there was Newt and the "Contract with America." Tremendous success that was. My taxes went up even more than under Reagan. Then there was the Republican persecution of Bill Clinton for doing exactly what later turned out the majority of the Republican leadership was doing. Then there's George W. Bush. Gosh I bet his parents are busting with pride at what a difference he's made to this country. The Bush tax cuts have shifted the tax burden from those who made exhorbitant profits on my hard work to me and the wages that haven't gone up in 10 years. Further he's embroiled us in a quagmire that in spite of all the positive spin that's been put on it, has not exactly endeared us to the rest of the world. He has positioned the United States to look more like a puffed-up school yard bully than a strong leader. He is bleeding this country of it's financial resources in order to support another country that didn't want us there in the first place. Yup, Hussein was a bad guy. There's lots of bad guys in the world. Does that mean we should go out and start a war with every one of them? How come we didn't pick on Kim Il-Sung? He's worse than Saddam ever thought of being. Now McCain, who has been in lock-step support of Bush for the last eight years, and who has openly promised us more of the same, wants a second chance. Hell no!
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 8:28 AM (Suggest Removal) Bush ain't runnin this time, but some people are so out of it they don't even know! I'm going to need to hire some people this Nov., so if any of you Liberals want to start pulling your own weight, there will be jobs available. .......... Are the Liberals still here or have I scared them off with the work word? Maine being taken over by lazy thieving Liberals will probably fall to Junior. With some luck we may split the electoral vote though. There was a time when Mainers were hard working honest independent people. Now that we've had 30-40 years of Liberal/Democrat rule those qualities/vales are something to be disdained. The Liberal mantra is why work when we can steal it from those that do! Vote for us we'll steal for you! Liberalism IS a lie, therefore all Liberals lie.
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Posted By:John at September 5, 2008 8:42 AM (Suggest Removal) One of the greatest and most costly issues facing this country right now is illegal immigration.I have seen many estimates as to the dollar value we are spending to support these people.By all accounts this is a huge expense to all of us the tax payers.All so the security risk posed by our free and open boarders policy is a grave threat to all of us.Not to mention the lack of screening allows undesirables in to commit crimes against us.
I may have missed something but I don't think that I have heard a whole lot about this issue.Here in Maine we have been shielded from the realities of this by geography.
With out talking about the past and and being rude to each other can you people tell me just what kind of plan the hopefuls have to address this growing problem.I don't need you to defend your person as if they were your realitives,just tell me their plan as you truely understand it.
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Posted By:nosey at September 5, 2008 8:42 AM (Suggest Removal) Has anyone seen the McCain mailing that came yesterday? A relative - registered Republican who is voting Obama this year, showed me his. For someone who purports to intend to work across party lines to bring about 'change' it involved some pretty inflammatory language, a lot of beating the foul Democrats at all costs type rhetoric. Which side of his mouth are we supposed to believe?
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 8:52 AM (Suggest Removal) So, the reporters wonder about Gov. Palin's ability to sit in the Oval office. What about Pelosi?!? That dingbat is third in line! Now THAT is scarey.
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Posted By:helga at September 5, 2008 8:57 AM (Suggest Removal) You all need to do some research on what happens to the economy when there is a democrat president and democrat controlled congress.
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Posted By:E at September 5, 2008 9:08 AM (Suggest Removal) Ole BHO has his troops out. Are you all paid by the DNC to blog your leftist liberal garbage? Or do you just spout all this crap because you are stupid?
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Posted By:Steve at September 5, 2008 9:08 AM (Suggest Removal) His "agent of change" will be the secret service agent in charge of changing his depends.
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 9:09 AM (Suggest Removal) McCain/Palin by 8 points in Nov.! Junior, Mr. "I'm as dumb as a 10 pound box of rocks" will fade into the footnotes of history as "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, (Quote by Biden) viable presidential candidate. What will be learned is that what counts is experience, Conservative American values, and character, not skin color.
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Posted By:Kelly at September 5, 2008 9:15 AM (Suggest Removal) Nice to see agism and sexism are alive and well in the democrat party. They only support women who want to kill their babies.
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 9:19 AM (Suggest Removal) Liberals kill babies, Palin kills animals. At least she eats what she kills, Liberals kill for convenience.
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 9:23 AM (Suggest Removal) Vlerie Plame? what the heck did the Bush admiknistration have to do with that? Answer nothing. Waldo try and keep up here! We're winning/won the war to your great disappointment, there were no lies to congress. FEMA and the Democrat controlled state of Louisiana were involved in Katrina. (Which I'm sure you think was caused by Bush). Remember you guys want government agencies like FEMA to take total control of our lives, how well do you think that will work? The economy is hurting mostly because of energy costs. And who is it that wants higher energy costs? Liberals like Waldo why of course. Even as the DEmocrat party does all they can to destroy the economy we still haven't gone into a recession as you and the Democrat party have been hoping for. Why is what's bad for America good for the Democrat Party? You guys really ought to try cheering for our side for once in your pitiful lives.
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 9:26 AM (Suggest Removal) ...and another thing. How is it Gov. Palin's fault that there is a shortage of airmen in the Alaska National Guard? Last I checked, our military was a volunteer-based recruitment, not dictated by the government. Paleeese.
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 9:29 AM (Suggest Removal) The reason Obama was able to raise so much money after Gov. Palin's speach was due to fear. Apparently there's a bunch of democrates out there shaking in their boots...
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 9:33 AM (Suggest Removal) Waldo, this is in reply to your 7:31AM post. Being a war hero may not qualify one to be president, but we certainly have had plenty of presidents who WERE war hero's. George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Ulysses S. Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, just to name a few. Knowing what a man has been through helps us understand the man. You may not agree with him, but make no mistake, he is every bit a patriot as you and I are.
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Posted By:MomOfTwo at September 5, 2008 9:36 AM (Suggest Removal) Helga it's pretty obvious what a Democrat controlled ANYTHING will do. Just look at the mess the State of Maine is in. I agree JC the Dems are shaking in their boots. They should be. McCain/Palin 08!!
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Posted By:ROCKO at September 5, 2008 9:46 AM (Suggest Removal) Drew Id love to work for you after November! Just a few questions will I have health insurance and retiremnet benifits?? If not then will you be paying me enough so that I may buy these much needed things,i guess as a good republican are you going to give me a living wage,of course I will give you 125% all the time on and off duty! I wouldnt even mind a scale that would reward me with a percentage of the profit for a job well done! Thanks you seem like a very reasonable person!
At some time before November I would like to hear the republicans to tell me exactly what they intend to do and how they will get there!I heard about jobs but nothing about good jobs with above average pay and benifits!!At some point in time the people will see they are being left behind! At no other time in my life have I ever felt like we are looosing ground,not only at home but worldwide! We can not continue to bully the world! Sooner or later every great fighter goes from winner to looser,just check your history books,nothing last forever we better be careful who we take on and for what we really want !
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 9:51 AM (Suggest Removal) To outsider's 7:48 post. Now come on, most of the stuff you just said came out of thin air. I heard the speach last night, as did others. Quit making stuff up.
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 9:51 AM (Suggest Removal) Waldo, what lies are you talking about? Still suffering from BDS after all these years! Remember Liberalism IS a lie therefore YOU lie. Name the Bush lie, I dare ya! come on, you can do it! Where's Waldo?
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Posted By:Pol at September 5, 2008 9:55 AM (Suggest Removal) From Factcheck.org: On average, McCain voted with Bush just over 89% of the time while Obama voted the Democratic line nearly 97% of the time. Although neither bucks the party often, clearly Obama is more of a tool than McCain.
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 9:55 AM (Suggest Removal) Waldo; Check YOUR facts.Boy, you really haven't been following along have you! When Valerie Plame sent her Liberal active Kerry supporting husband to Africa to "investigate" he was proven to be lying in his report. And Saddam WAS looking for Yellowcake not "parts" as you say. And who "outed" Valerie Plame, a proven non undercover CIA agent? First her Husband, you don't happen to remember her being on the cover of a prominent magazine do you? Or the fact that it was common knowledge on the DC party circuit who she was? Or the fact that Dick Armitage admitted to the special prosecutor before the Scooter trial that he was the one who told Novak? Or that Dick Armitage also told the prosecutor that Joe Wilson is the one that originally outed his "undercover" wife to reporters? Or the fact that we just recently removed 550 TONS of Yellowcake from Iraq? Scooter was convicted of lying and perjury because he was to stupid to say "I don't remember" (Like Hillary did). His charges had absolutely nothing to do with Plame's "outing". I dare say that if any of us were asked under oath to say what we did on oh say the 3rd of May 2007 at 9:45-10:15 we wouldn't be able to remember. And you must remember the prosecuter already knew before the trial began who the "guilty" party was. Those are the facts. I agree we need to throw out the Anti-American garbage; any Liberal/Democrat/Republican that we can.
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 9:56 AM (Suggest Removal) Waldo, to your 7:53 comment. No one was prepared for Katrina, NO ONE! Not the mayor, not the govenor, not fema. I fail to understand how you can blame President Bush for one of the worst natural disasters this country has ever seen. That is really lame. You know what the REAL tragidy was out of that mess? It was the elected officials in New Orleans who instructed the police and National Guard to go house to house and DISARM law-abiding citizens when they most needed to protect themselves and their property. Where's the outrage about that?
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 10:04 AM (Suggest Removal) In response to Lil's remarks posted at 8:09. So are you saying that President Bush is wrong about stuff 100% of the time? That is a statistical impossibility. No one is 100% wrong or 100% right 100% of the time. All those statistics prove is that John McCain agreed with the President on certain issues that required a vote from Congress. At least John McCAin actually votes "yay" or "nay" instead of just "present" (like Obama). John McCain is not afraid to let the public know where he stands on the issues. Voting "present" doesn't count.
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Posted By:Conserv at September 5, 2008 10:08 AM (Suggest Removal) You think people in this state would learn what happens when democrats(liberals) control the legislature and head office for a long period of time. Maine is one of the highest taxed, worst run states in the nation. Yet guaranteed Mainers will still vote the same way. What is it called when people do the same thing over and over again and expect different results? Insanity.
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 10:11 AM (Suggest Removal) Like I said Waldo, NO ONE was prepared for what happened to New Orleans. We all learned from that experience, all of us. Look at what happened when Gustoff came through. This time everyone was prepaired. The mayor, the Govenor, and the Federal government. That's what life is about, learning from our past mistakes and correcting them in the future.
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Posted By:Philip Dec at September 5, 2008 10:15 AM (Suggest Removal) The "Agents of Change" have been with us for some time. Change Agents have been resposible for the shift of mindset of the American people from individualists to collectivists. Globalist policies will continue with Senator McCain at the healm. He's not called McSame for nothing. Senator Obama also promises change, but what does he really mean? Our Southern border allows millions of illegals to pour in continually: will Barack Obama "change" that? Very unlikely. McCain's do-nothing solution is no secret. He will please his bosses who control the CFR and Trilateral Commission. The American people have still not been told the truth about September 11th. Will either of the candidates of "change" remedy the situation? Most likely, the cover-up will continue.
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Posted By:JC at September 5, 2008 10:15 AM (Suggest Removal) Waldo, in reply to your 9:30am post. You may be correct in your assessment of why recruitments are down, but it didn't start out that way. People signed up in droves after 9/11. I have two grandkids in the Marines. You served in Nam, which wasn't exactly a war that was looked on as favorable either. But the truth is, there is no such thing as a "good" war. As long as there is evil in this world there will be war. The Iraqi people begged us to help them overthrow Sadam the first time we went in, but we stopped short. We had promised the Arabs that we would push Sadam out of Kuait and back into Iraq, and that's all we would do. Otherwise, we would not have had their support. Before Clinton took office, we did offer weapons and supplies to those brave Iraqi's who wanted to rid themselves of Sadam, but we, for the most part, left them high and dry. We can debate all day long as to whether America should concern itself in policing the world or should stay home and mind our own business (which I believe we should), but the fact remains, we went in, we removed a dangerous threat to the world, and now we're dealing with the aftermath. Al-Qaeda brought the fight to Iraq, which was good for us, but bad for the Iraqi people. All we ever hear about though, is the bad things that are happening. I know a lot of soldiers (my grandkids some of them) who have been greated with open arms by the Iraqi people. Some think this has come at too high a price. Maybe it has. But how do you put a price tag on freedom? You cannot. Jefferson said "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants, it is its natural manure."
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 10:19 AM (Suggest Removal) JC, it may be statistically impossible to be wrong 100% of the time but if anyone can do it Lil Duke's our man!
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 10:24 AM (Suggest Removal) Exactamundo Waldo! And you want that subcontractor to run our health care, and our pensions, among other things, with no option to hire another! ** CELEBRATE! CELEBRATE! Today the 5th of September 2008 Waldo was right! ** Hey even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.
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Posted By:Philip Dec at September 5, 2008 10:31 AM (Suggest Removal) McCain and Obama are almost identical twins when it comes to foreign policy: which will be dictated by top echelon figures in the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. The backers of McCain and Obama will not allow them to have an original thought of their own. As if microchipped, they will dance the globalist jig on every political issue that originates from the fountain of world government policies. Neither "agent of change" will protect the American people from the daily poisoning of fluoridation [nofluoride.com]. Both "agents of change" will continue the "war on terror," which at least 20 million Americans believe to be deceptive.
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Posted By:Conserv at September 5, 2008 10:35 AM (Suggest Removal) Waldo.... The Legislature and world economics have more to do with our economy then the president. Who has controlled the Legislature?
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Posted By:John at September 5, 2008 10:37 AM (Suggest Removal) At 8:42 I asked a question of you people.Apparently you folks are only for the most part concerned with arguing with each other.I thought that at least one of you could explain your candidate's position with clarity.
Apparently not.
I should have known better.Simon and Garfunkel had a line that said" A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest"Know where is this truth demonstrated more fully then on these comment pages.
I shall now leave you to your party bashing with lines older then the dirt you walk on.Some how I don't think you people will find any common ground even when you are all buried in it.
Thanks for all the incite as now I have a better understanding as to why the country flounders along when we could be working together for the common good.
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Posted By:Philip Dec at September 5, 2008 10:49 AM (Suggest Removal) Both of the promoters of "change" will continue the policy of allowing the globalists to use the U.S. military, at will, to bully any country opposed to "globalization:" which is the process of bringing about a centralized world government. Change agents (like McCain and Obama in ideology) continue to mislead the American people by changing terms like New World Order. It "changed" into "global governance" in the late 90s. The term "changed" again around the time of September 11th, and was referred to as "globalization." "Change agents" have been busy indeed. Whichever major party candidate is "elected," they will be busy bringing about more "change" as they continue chipping away at our national sovereignty: until America is reduced to a "nation state" within a collectivist world government.
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Posted By:Drew at September 5, 2008 10:53 AM (Suggest Removal) Outsider; Jobs pay what the market value of the job is not what the employee wants to be payed. Always glad to help people with basic economic education! The thing you most need to buy is an education! It may even improve your math skills, 125% can't be done, 100% if you're really good but I wouldn't expect it all the time. People aren't machines and good employers know that. And to add to your education again if I may, SMARTEN THE F-UP AND STOP LOOKING TO GOVERNMENT FOR A LIVING! You want a good paying job, invest in yourself and become someone that people will want to hire. With the "you owe me a living" attitude you'll get paid just what you're worth, Minimum wage at best. Too much freedom is not the problem, it's the solution!
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Posted By:Philip Dec at September 5, 2008 11:09 AM (Suggest Removal) John; your frustration is understandable. To witness how Americans are being pit against each another, you only have to observe the selfishness on the road (driving) and the rudeness and ignorant attacks on message boards like this. Sadly, folks are just doing what they have been programmed to do by liars and shills on the political left and right. The goal is to create constant strife between people who have been divided into two "opposing" camps. Each obnoxiously blaming the country's serious problems on the other. Being a true independent, I can avoid that trap and concentrate my energy on exposing the real menace which controls both major parties and the foreign policy of their candidates. Our camouflaged rulers have rolled both major parties into one. Having accomplished that, it is easy to have the globalist foreign policy continue, as if nothing happened, from administration to administration. See the DVD "Terrorstorm," produced by Alex Jones. [infowars.com]
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Posted By:M at September 5, 2008 11:13 AM (Suggest Removal) What ever happened to personal responsibility?
New Orleans is a city that was built BELOW sea level. How is it the responsibility of the government to ensure that everyone gets out safely? The levees hold the water back. In the 70's, they were told that it would take one good solid hit from a cat 5 hurricane to blow the levees to bits.
They knew then, and chose to do nothing. People knew that if a hurricane hit, the levees would break, and gravity would set in, and the water would seek the point of least resistance.
Why is it the governments responsibility to provide housing?
On another note, what are the three things that define a country?
Borders, Language, Culture.
We have no borders (we allow illegal immigrants to show up however they choose, and we don't send them packing)
Obama does not want to make English our official language (since when did I have to press 2 for English??)
And our culture is based around a bunch of couch potatoes, baby breeders that want to get something for nothing and are afraid to get their hands dirty.
Where do all the issues stem from? Laziness.
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Posted By:ROCKO at September 5, 2008 11:23 AM (Suggest Removal) Drew sorry you took my posting so personal ! I have a very good education from a vvery good college,I dont need an entry level job ! I choose where I want to work,when I do because I can afford to live without one !!!!!125% is just a term used to make a point,I would give my all and all !!true worth,Ive even heard MrMcSame ue the phrase!!!
Ive never asked the goverment for anything but did give two years of my life 362 days of them in the same place as Mr McSame and earned at least the right to ask for an even shake,Have you served your country??? Other than smashing people that do not feel the same way as you ???All I aske dwas are you hiring and what are the benifits anyone with a 6th grade education would ask that question! If questioning whats on the table or Authority means you dont have an education Im sorry we dont have anything to talk about !Im sure on what you pay your employees they could not afford gas let alone an education,I know thats not your fault blame the Democrats!!!! Have a good day !!
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Posted By:Ol'Bill at September 5, 2008 11:25 AM (Suggest Removal) Philip, I'm curious about something. If you are so much against "globalization", does that mean that you want the US to leave the United Nations?
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Posted By:Philip Dec at September 5, 2008 11:40 AM (Suggest Removal) "They can't make ends meet on $100,000" because they are never satisfied. Like the man with 8 [?] homes. They don't care about people struggling on wages that are more suitable for the eighties. All they care about is themselves and, perhaps, their own families. Their speeches are fine tuned to tell hard-working (low-paid) Americans just what they would like to hear. "Change is coming." Like talk radio neocons, they mock laborers to their faces with their empty lines and promises. For a real contrast, when Congressman Ron Paul spoke at the State House in Augusta; he often looked into the eyes of the people who were there to support him. He spoke from the heart addressing real issues. If he were to debate John McCain and Barack Obama with no prepared speeches and no teleprompters: the American people would quickly see who is capable of leading this nation and who isn't. Sadly, too many will settle for a con-man if he can insure that their comfort level is not disturbed. Con-men is what the internationalists employ to dupe people in large numbers into giving up rights for "security." Their sovereign nation for a "global village." Their privacy for a discount on food. It is pitiful how successful the people who "hate our freedoms" have been, and continue to be: thanks to lazy half-whitted people who let the major media do their thinking for them, and allow 24/7 sports to pacify them. They choose worthless trivia over being truly well-informed. Absolutely pathetic. Slaves in the making. "Forging their own chains."
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Posted By:Lil at September 5, 2008 11:42 AM (Suggest Removal) Leave poor little Drew alone, and please don't confuse him with facts about the economy. He has a hard time grasping reality when it's so much easier just to sit back and spout failed ideology.
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Posted By:Jay at September 5, 2008 11:45 AM (Suggest Removal) I am astonished at the biting minimizing of McCain/Palin this article potrays. The emphasis is VERY biased. It seems that the media's "chosen one" now faces opposition....and they don't like it. So their attacks are more subtle. What a rotten article.
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Posted By:Lil at September 5, 2008 11:52 AM (Suggest Removal) You're gonna love this. Remember the weird green screen behind McCain as he was speaking last night? As his speech went on, we realized it was grass - grass from a larger photo of a house or some big mansion or something. In fact, the picture was of Walter Reed. No, not Walter Reed Army Medical Center where injured troops are treated - though that was clearly McCain's intent, to use our injured troops as a political prop (just as last night they dared show footage of the planes crashing into the World Trade Center, and the towers falling) - no, in fact, McCain posted a photo of Walter Reed Middle School, a school for kids in California that has nothing to do with Walter Reed the military hospital. They actually thought the school was the Army hospital. Apparently McCain just discovered the Google!
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Posted By:BEN HARRISON at September 5, 2008 12:18 PM (Suggest Removal) I hope Rent A Center comes and takes Waldo computer away soon!!!
Democrats control the House and the Senate but they have nothing to do with current state of affairs here in America!!! All Bush's Fault!! If Barry gets elected who are they going to blame for everything!!! Be nice to be able to complain about a Black Man keeping us down for a "CHANGE"!!!!
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Posted By:Philip Dec at September 5, 2008 12:25 PM (Suggest Removal) Ol' Bill; I just saw your post at 11:25 AM If we left the United Nations, who would pay the bills? The UN, sitting on land donated by the Rockefellers, has always been an instrument for world government via decades of war designed to wear the people down into accepting the globalist solution. Since it has been a sham from its inception, I would say that America should be no part of it. Socialists have always been selected for "Secretary Ge | |