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Why is this story on Page One?

I thought page one was reserved for news strories? This is obviously a lamestream media opinion piece by people in the bag for Obama. If you are going to run this tripe on page one, this reader would appreciate an opinion disclosure at the top of the story.

Obama has spent $5 trillion in his first 3.5 years in office. I shudder to think of another 4 years for this character with the composite girlfriends.

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Ditre

In the spirit of full disclosure, Ditre's organization is certainly "left-leaning" to say the least. Want to label? Let's label throughout the article, shall we? I am so sick of liberal bias in the media.

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Wiemar Republic?

The contributor might find the Weimar Republic "innovative", but what he doesn't mention is that Mayor LaBonte and city council don't have a printing press available to them to crank out dollars unchecked as the Germans did in the 1920's, creating an inflation rate of enormous proportions that only Obama can hope to equal in his second term.

I feel sorry for the young people who are buying the crap that is put out by the likes of Faulkner.

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Cushy Job

Just to set the record straight because Dan keeps complaining about my cushy job with the Maine Turnpike Authority:

I am pleased to serve the patrons of the Maine Turnpike as a board member. A staff member hands me a $55 check to cover gas, tolls and wear & tear every month. That's a real cushy job alright! :)

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If the Cash Don't Flow, the Checks Don't Go

Frank... People can rail about LePage and complain bitterly, but I know him to be realist. It is a sad fact of life that people dislike politicians that need to take taxpayer-supplied government goodies away from them. They love politicians that give taxpayer-supplied government goodies to them. LePage-dislke. Rotundo, Craven, Bolduc, Mike Lajoie - like. How wonderful to be ablet to go to Augusta and just hand out goodies and let the taxpayers of Maine worry about paying them!

There appear to be about three groups of people in Maine that have a stake in the government goodies game.

Group 1 are the 50-60% of Mainers that live off government goodies.

Group 2 are the 30% of Mainers that are working and paying taxes. They are paying mortgages for homes here, love Maine's recreational opportunities that they can afford, have kids in school and have family here.

Group 3 are the 10% of Mainers who can walk away from Maine at any time. They are paying the heaviest load of Maine's high income taxes. They buy things. They contribute to charities that help Group 1 out. They are not upside down on their mortgages and are not stuck here.

Some of Group 3 lives along the coast and revere Angus King, Elliot Cutler, Chellie Pingree and anyone else that understands the "committment to help the needy" as they would say.

There are many in Group 3 who are planning to move out of state. They can move to places where there is no income tax, no exorbitant sales taxes, no oppressive heating oil bills, on and on and on. They can come back and enjoy Maine in the glorious summer and fall and not worry about the above.

As Group 1 expands, and Group 3 moves away from Maine for 183 days a year, do you see a problem developing?

The question, in the end, is: "Who pays for Group 1's goodies?" Cash flow is declining. If the cash don't flow, the checks don't go.

LePage understands this. He is easy to hate.

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Some of us actually have to pay taxes

At Bruce Poliquin's urging, changes were made in the Pension account that will save the taxpayers of the state of Maine $1.7 BILLION dollars in taxes.

All the while, guaranteeing a very generous defined benefit plan to the many people depending upon it for a good part of their retirement income.

Pensioners and taxpayers alike should be pleased with Mr. Poliquin's fine work.

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Just a common bag job by the Sun-Journal

1. Who approved Poliquin's application for the Tree Growth plan? Was it legal or not?

2. According to Poliquin, he made no money with his "side" business. You'd think, by reading this, that Bruce had gobs of profits from this evil side business.

3. No mention of all the future taxes that Poliquin has saved Mainers by recommending changes to the pension plan, Maine bond bank and by routing out the corruption in MSHA.

He's done great work, but has drilled too close to the nerve

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Is this an editorial or news story?

1. Reads like an Op-Ed.

2. Apparently, there were no Republicans willing to talk to Steve today. Nice balance in the reporting.

3. Peggy is like Rutherford Hayes...looking backward. The days of free and easy General Assistance are so over.

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It will be over soon

LD 1778 will take care of all of this mess.

There is a reason why Craven and Rotundo tried to kill OPEGA years ago. Sunlight is a great disinfectant. Stay tuned.

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I agree Frank but

what are the chances?

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I would rather have

a liberal who runs as a liberal win this seat than a liberal who runs as a moderate or conservative. Voters really do deserve the government the majority (or plurality in a race with more than 2 candidates) votes for. I can only opine with facts, and leave the emotions out of it.

King's record in Maine is quite clear:

1. He likes taxes.
2. He likes to spend.
3. He likes to borrow.
4. He created at least one agency that borrows without voter approval.
5. He likes public lands at the expense of private business.
6. He does a great job of influencing voters.
7. He gives a very entertaining speech. I've heard one speech, about Gettysburg, three times. Very informative.

So, if that's what you want representing Maine in Washington, vote for King. By all means.

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KIng is a Big Spending Liberal

He presided over the largest expansion of Maine government ever. I'll pass on him this time. I supported him in his first run, but he really disappointed me.

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If you sleep all day, you are up at night

or on too much coffee. Anyway, as an organization that exists to place one word after the other, the Sun-Journal cannot win, it seems. When I read the disclaimer, I thought "Why not call Joe what he is, a union organizer." I've always been amused by the use of the term "labor." What does "management" do? Sit around and watch "labor" work? It must be nice to have a cushy job in management where there is no "labor" involved.

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Liberal?

Margaret Thatcher said "Socialism is great until other people's money runs out." Liberalism and socialism are very close cousins.

Other peoples money is running out all over Europe. I am sure you have been paying attention.

Because Obama and friends are printing money like it is going out of style, and it won't be long before we are out of other people's money on this side of the great Atlantic.

What are we going to do then, Kim?

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You are a piece of work

I wont call you "stupid." I don't have to as the readers have already figured that out.

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Big Spender

Angus presided over the largest expansion of Maine government in history. I shudder to think of Obama and King in Washington at the same time. We'll be going to Dunkin' Donuts with a suitcase of money to buy a coffee.

Oh well, at $104 trillion in unfunded liabilities piled on our kids and grandkids shoulders, let's party like it's 1999!

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Kick Back and Enjoy

OJ and Jock have accumulated millions. Time to enjoy it. It's 5 O'Clock somewhere.

Now the scramble begins to accumulate 2,000 signatures, have them certified and in to the SOS by March 15th. This is a cheap seat and will be heavily sought after.

Pop some popcorn and break out the diet coke. This will be interesting.

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Kick Back and Enjoy

OJ and Jock have accumulated millions. Time to enjoy it. It's 5 O'Clock somewhere.

Now the scramble begins to accumulate 2,000 signatures, have them certified and in to the SOS by March 15th. This is a cheap seat and will be heavily sought after.

Pop some popcorn and break out the diet coke. This will be interesting.

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Kick Back and Enjoy

OJ and Jock have accumulated millions. Time to enjoy it. It's 5 O'Clock somewhere.

Now the scramble begins to accumulate 2,000 signatures, have them certified and in to the SOS by March 15th. This is a cheap seat and will be heavily sought after.

Pop some popcorn and break out the diet coke. This will be interesting.

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When a "Cut" is not a Cut

Rex... LePage's proposal seeks to bring spending, now out of control, into line with revenues, now declining rapidly in Maine. You need to understand that debits have to equal credits in state government financing. We cannot print money like Obama and the Congress can. The budget, by law, must be balanced in Maine. All of your hollow rhetoric about the uninsured wont get credits to equal (or exceed) debits.

It is easy to castigate LePage because a politician that wants to take free (as in "other people's) money away from any group is always going to be demonized. Pols that want to give other people's money to a group are going to heroes and heroines. It's human nature, like kids are to candy.

The reality is, Rex, that there are many thousands of Mainers who could have employer paid health insurance, where they have to kick in part of the cost, but chose not to. They would rather have the free Peggy Rotundo-Margaret Craven supplied brand. Why pay a monthly premium when you can get "Peggy Care" for nothing? The 65,000 that would have been "cut" from the Peggy Care rolls had an interesting average demographic...they were 41 years old, male and had no kids.

You have long championed the likes of Peggy and Margaret for leadership rolls in Augusta. You have championed the "Grand Experiment" of loading up our welfare rolls with thousands of "New Mainers." Well, the chickens are coming home to roost. The Grand Experiment is not working. It blew up in your face. High taxes and onerous regulation is not working. There are now 361,000 people getting free health care, and rising.

Lewiston and Auburn have the largest number of Maine's TANF recipients terming out after 5 years on "temporary" assistance. And yet millions and millions of state and federal aid have been poured into L-A since the "Great Society" came in to being and poverty is worse here than ever before. Why isn't it working? Why isn't the paper asking that question?

Taxpayers are leaving Maine in droves. Soon, there will be 400,000 on MaineCare and the Editorial Board will be wondering where the taxpayers went because you won't be able to hide it any longer. If the Democrats return to power this fall, we might as well turn out the lights because there will be no stopping the train to fiscal hell.

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Mistler Took the Bait

Connecting the caucus mess to AID's campaign is a joke. It is obvious that he is not running a credible campaign. Snowe and the Democrat survivor will be spending $7 million plus and he hasn't gotten to $5,000 yet? Needs 4,000 signatures?

I know the paper needs to trash the GOP but you are pushing the limits of rational thought in running this story to help the trashing along. We paying readers deserve better.

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Party?

I've noticed that the last three Democrats coming out to campaign for legislative seats in Androscoggin County have not disclosed that they are running as Democrats in their press releases. There was a time when a Democrat label was a free pass to elective office in these parts. Things have obviously changed.

Interesting coordinated strategy.

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Nope, Not Due To Enrollment

Last week, Peggy Rotundo said, in this newspaper, that the problem was not due to enrollment.

Nice try, Peggy. Got another whopper for us?

Note that when Peggy went to Augusta, Medicaid enrollment was about 200,000 souls. It is now 361,000 souls.

Nope, no problem with enrollment. Soak the rich and all problems will be solved.

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How about understanding the facts

The people that the governor proposed "slashing" have an average age of 41, are male, and don't have any kids. They can get health care through their employers, but would rather have the taxpayers of the state of Maine give them FREE care. Only saps pay for health care. Why not get it for FREE?

Peggy and Margaret are not telling you this.

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She needs to report to the board

She's had it her way, free as a bird with "other peoples money", for years. This must stop.

OPEGA will mop the floor with her. No wonder Craven and her friends tried to kill it.

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Brilliant, Dan

Before tapping away at your keyboard, did you think, for a moment, about the circumstances that the deceased were in when they encountered the police? Many are at the end of their rope, usually carrying a weapon, and are a threat to themselves, the public, and the police encountering them. It's not TV or the movies.

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You are a class act

At least they tried to save the fellow's life. I thank them for their efforts.

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50% of median income is

15m for a male and about 10.5m for a female. At or below that number and your are living with heavy government subsidies.

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Peggy Is Speaking Augustan

When Peggy went up to Augusta, there were about 200,000 people on MaineCare. There are now over 361,000 people on MaineCare. Yet, she claims:

"The budget shortfall was not caused by an increase in enrollment in MaineCare."

She must think we are stupid.

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Nor irrational, from the looks of Dan's Comment

Count the damned Washington County votes, for cripes sake. It is a straw poll and means nothing, technically. How about a little common sense?

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Dan

No, Bob and I don't know each other but I admire him for certain accomplishments in his life. Your personal insults directed to people are really pathetic.

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I Figured as Much...

Thanks for the insight.

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Who are you guys? How much

Who are you guys? How much public service have you ever done? Sitting at a key board in your skivvies, insulting people. Classy.

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Pass?

Don't put words in my posts. I believe that the AG has provided appropriate legal guidance. I am certain that the Treasurer will follow that guidance.

Trained lawyers haven't prosecuted either Nutting or Poliquin. They obviously disagree with your reading of the law.

Bar room lawyers are a dime a dozen.

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Treasurer Poliquin is doing good work

Thorugh his good work, he is saving the taxpayers of Maine hundreds of millions of thier hard earned dollars. If you are living off the fat of the land, none of this matters, of course.

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Let me help you understand, Dan

1. The MTA board is an unpaid position. In other words, my work is free to the MTA.

2. The "cushy" benefits consist of gas money to meetings. It is precisely $55 a meeting, held about once a month.

3. If he had to rely on the $55 a month, I believe I would be anything other than secure.

Hope that adjusts your view of service as an MTA board member. And what does this have to do with the subject matter of this thread?

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Do You Understand the Massive Tax Cut?

Top rate went from 8.5 to 7.95%. Thousands of working folks, earning in the teens and twenties of thousands, will no longer pay State income tax. Yes, go ahead, and rescind it. What a great idea!

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How about the Donations?

To leftist causes? Rooks totally ignores all of that "outreach."

Sorry, Doug, your bias is showing. Using taxpayer money to fund political agendas in just plain unethical.

Ethics in government is far from theater.

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Thoughts

1. Maine is now the oldest state in the nation. Older, on average, than Florida. Health care needs will continue to escalate. It is inevitable.

2. Maine is one of the poorest states (income-wise) in the nation. I looked at per capita income in Lewiston in the 2000 and 2010 census data. A little under $18,000 in 2000, a little over $18,000 in 2010. Factor in the loss of purchasing power due to inflation over that decade (-31%), we are looking at per capita, adjusted for inflation, per capita income at about $12,500. Average household size in Lewiston is 2.1, so you can see we are very poor as a group.

3. Health care costs continue to rise as technology improves. Residents get older, have less resources to pay for escalating health care services. A true disaster in the making.

4. Federal government is borrowing and printing money. State government is broke and cannot print money like Washington can. High taxes have driven the working young people out of Maine to a great extent (see average age). Option used for many years by Augusta has been to increase taxes and/or borrow. Increasing government revenues has the inevitable effect of depressing private sector investment in Maine and almost assuredly will cost private sector jobs, which, in turn, will result in our young, productive, tax-paying people out of Maine. Downward spiral has been in operation for about 40 years now.

5. 82% of state expenditures are health care and education related.

6. There were no solutions offered by Covey and Myles. Where is the money going to come from to maintain MaineCare? In 2000, there were 200,000 MaineCare recipients. In 2012, there are 361,000 MaineCare recipients. How long can we continue the rate of MaineCare growth? The state of Maine is now delinquent, back to 2009 according to the Covey/Myles piece. The state cannot even pay for care rendered 3 years ago, much less the care being rendered today. What are the solutions?

7. Cut state general purpose aid to education and let the cities and towns fund education at the local level? New Hampshire funds education via the property tax (93%). Test scores are better than Maine and kids are getting educated, most certainly. This would free up over a billion dollars for MaineCare. Education money from the state of Maine is a sacred cow but we have to find the money somewhere, and lots of it.

8. Require local communities to fund their own school building projects? High schools now cost over $60,000,000. Are property owners willing to pay the debt service on $60 million construction projects? To fund MaineCare at 361,000 people, and growing, we might have to. Will people hang around Maine to pay that debt service? Don't be so sure.

9. How about attacking costs at our local hospitals. How about merging the two hospitals? Can we afford two high dollar cost management teams now that the well is dry? It might have worked in the past, can we afford it now?

10. We now live in an America where 49% of households pay no federal income tax. I'd guess that the rate is even higher in Lewiston, given the income numbers above. How long can we ask half to work and pay and allow half to live off the others? ObamaCare is just around the corner, and the load on the payers is going to get that much higher to pay of 32,000,000 people coming in for "free" care. Yipes!

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So, What's It Gonna Be, Peggy?

When Peggy first went to Augusta, there were less than 200,000 Mainers on MaineCare. There are now 361,000 (and counting) Mainers who report income low enough to be "on the state." Peggy makes it a habit to show up at meeting late. Perhaps she's busy. More likely to draw attention to herself. Good politics, indeed.

So, where is the $220 million (and counting)going to come from? Soak the rich Mainers for more taxes? Soak the middle class for more taxes? 82% of the Maine budget goes to MaineCare and Education. Cut out the state police? How about eliminating the warden service?

Peggy, Craven, Carey, Wagner and their friends should be ashamed to show their faces around town. What an abject failure to support the basic prosperity of their fellow Mainers. Wait! Maybe their game is to keep us all groveling for state aid. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Sad case, indeed.

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And Rotundo, Craven, Carey

And Rotundo, Craven, Carey are not full of "extreme ideology and negativity"? Give me a break.

Meanwhile, another day ticks by. The MaineCare hole, which Rotundo, Craven and crowd doesn't believe exists, just deepened.

This is going to be interesting. The city of Detroit runs out of cash this April. Maine may beat them.

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Circling the Wagons Much?

Look at the "vendors" on the list. Dale has been caught with her hand squarely in the public's pockets. You'll never agree, and will fight back like a cornered rat.

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Blind

It is absolutely amazing to see Senator Craven circling the wagons around the corrupt. The MSHA has been used as an ATM for liberal causes and Dale got caught. Just think if Craven's team had prevailed in the last election. Paul Violette, Dale McCormick and their ilk would be just sailing along, spending other people's money, having a good old time!

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Very well timed video

It was well past time for the citizens that have been dreaming about a marketplace or casino see the actual conditions inside Mill No. 5. The Sun-Journal provided a solid service to the community by presenting this video. It is, and always has been, the "Weave Shed" and it has outlived its economic life.

Bruce Damon's personal comments are right on the money, in my opinion.

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The "tomato" is...

... a poppy that Bob wears almost always to honor vets who gave all in support of the United States of America. Your little joke is quite insulting. And very lame.

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Brilliant, Larry

You are a real card.

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Is This Third Grade, Dan?

Two years of this stuff?

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Craven

Wonder where Lewiston Senator Craven works?

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And Who...

...do you suggest Governor LePage appoint for that seat?

And, who are you to make a statement that Beth is unqualified?

Finally, what are the qualifications for the position?

Have you ever attended a county commissioners meeting?

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How do You Know...

...what I think? I have lived with people who have little money all of my life. I have a family member (who I adore) who needs care 24 hours a day.

Don't believe everything you read in the Sun-Journal. They have a political agenda and have no idea as to what the Governor is up to.

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Ney, ney, Kimosabe

I started off after college with $45 bucks to my name. I guess I was poor but didn't know it. Went to Boston, lived off a couch, and found work on Day 1, and here I am, four decades later, and still working. I despise lazy people. Lazy? Not your friend. Disabled and poor? I'll be the first to help you.

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Martin and Paradis

In office while MaineCare grew from 200,000 to 360,000 and now they are blaming LePage for a system that will be out of cash on April 1st?

Upside down world.

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Are You Inferring that LePage is Hitler?

Your hatred runs deep.

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I've Rubbed Elbows With a Number of Rich Capitalists

...but I've never tasted caviar. Fish eggs are not my "cup of tea." EEEWWWWW!

I'll pass your warmest regards to the Governor when I see him next week. We are going to sit down and hatch yet another plan to kill poor people.

They ought to offer you a job in the newsroom. Your fantasy of the day could be a great story idea.

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$129,032.25

I have been sitting here, under my rock, all day. When I slithered under the rock this morning at Frank's suggestion, I brought my calculator along.

While all the pontificating was going on today on this thread, the state slipped another $129,032.25 into the hole.

Will some of you experts come up with a fix for the Governor? Time's a wasting.

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You Can Bitch, or You Can Propose Solutions

Its like talking to a wall, but here we go again with Dan. We can always count on Mr. Breton complaining about Governor LePage and those greedy Republicans, most of of those greedy people being the same who are now getting ready to go to work to pay taxes to support the very people Dan is saying they want to "abandon."

How about solutions, Dan? Instead of complaining and knocking a Governor that is faced with a $120 million dollar budget deficit that has to be filled by June 30th, how about telling us how he should go about filling that hole.

Let's help Dan understand the enormity of the problem we are asking Dan to solve.

1. He has 6 months to solve the problem.

2. He is looking at $120 million if things hold as of now. That is $20 million a month.

3. The problem is growing at $4 million a month. Translated, the problem will be a $144 million problem by June 30th if nothing is done.

4. Unlike Obama, LePage cannot just print money to solve our $144 million problem.

5. 5% of the people on MaineCare consume 55% of the dollars spent.

6. MaineCare and education aid to K-12 students account for 82% of the state budget.

7. People continue to lose their jobs. Immigrants continue to stream in. People continue to age and need help. We now have 360,000 of our fellow Mainers on MaineCare.

So what does Dan want the evil LePage to do?

1. Raise taxes? How does he collect $120 million by June 30th?

2. Borrow to cover the deficit? That's like putting this week's groceries on the credit card.

3. Cut school aid immediately?

4. Shut down the rest of state government and re-open on July 1st?

5. Ask Obama for help? Many states are in the same boat as Maine.

The problem is not LePage. The problem is legislators, like Craven, Rotundo, Wagner and Bolduc who have "lived for today and hoped that tomorrow would never come" by adding more and more people to MaineCare to the point where they painted us right into a financial corner. Well, tomorrow is here.

Margaret Thatcher said it best. "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." Not only have Rotundo, Craven, Wagner, Bolduc and Lajoie run out of money, but they are now running out of "people." Thousands of former Mainers have taken up residence in warmer climes, and no longer stand for supporting the hundreds of thousands of people who are now "on the state." Keep raising taxes, and that fact of economic reality will get nothing but worse.

So, bitch all you want, Dan. Let's hear your solution to the $144 million problem.

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Lotta Dems on the Trip

You really have to get over this derangement syndrome with all things Republican.

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Can't You Get Anything RIght Tron?

I'm sorry to keep correcting you, but is was Jordan.

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Alternate Reality

Mr. Breton, you live in a dimension where up is down and in is out. Certainly worthy of Rod Serling.

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Figment of Mr. Breton's Vivid Imagination

Let's look at his assertion:

Here are the candidates for Governor...and here is reality.

Cutler - not given a job
Moody - not given a job
Scott - not given a job
Mitchell - not given a job

Primary

Mills - hired by the MTA
Abbott - hired by U Maine
Poliquin - hired by the Maine Legislature
Scott - unknown

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Campaign's Over

The taxpayers won.

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Summing up...

They are playing a game. They are playing at not playing a game. If I show them I see they are, I shall break the rules and they will punish me. I must play their game, of not seeing I see the game.

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Good Points

This was a tough week. A lot of emotion. Definitely some homework to do.

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Shane... Well reasoned comment

Shane, Bob is a long friend of Sue and I. I think you know us well enough to know that if Bob was the racist ogre that the media and certain facebook people claim he is, we would have never befriended him and remained close friends for nearly 20 years now.

Bob will be attacked for the next two years, those of us that are friends understand this. Whatever he does will be attacked. We talked for quite a while about that press conference yesterday, and we felt that it was best for Bob to face the media and apologize for his outburst. Bob was not at all reluctant to agree and I thought he made a strong effort to set a different tone.

Apparently, that was not good enough for some. At some point, we just have to move on and discharge the duties of mayor. And everyone, everyone, needs to be honest with all of us and become contributing members of the Lewiston community. The time for baiting and petty insults is past.

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Expect the best from Bob

I think the residents of Lewiston will be very pleased with the service they will receive from Bob Macdonald.

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Eliminate Subsidized Housing?

Bob Macdonald has called for a moratorium on 'affordable' housing. He never called for the ***elimination*** of affordable housing, plenty of which now exists in Lewiston. It is that kind of misinformation and innuendo that is so sickening.

Housing does not exist is in a linear vacuum. There are many variables that need to be considered when considering any activity in an economy and 'affordable' housing is not exempt.

Bob wants to convene a community conversation on housing after he is elected. He wants to include the new Mayor of Auburn, Jonathan Labonte, in that conversation because Auburn is a variable that does impact "affordable" housing in Lewiston.

Bob is warning that we are entering a new economic era of government austerity that cannot be ignored when talking about 'affordable' housing.

We are indeed in a global economy. Europe is in deep trouble, despite what the breathless headlines proclaimed in the Sun-Journal Saturday. I fully expect a large European bank to fail shortly, causing ripple effects right into L-A.

Washington is broke. So is Augusta. Money that cascades down into L-A is about to dry up.

Welfare is going to be cut significantly soon. The MaineCare reduction proposed by LePage is just the first step in a major reduction in welfare benefits. While LePage will be demonized by this newspaper and their embedded insider friends, the Obama administration is actually going to be cutting funding, leaving LePage little alternative but to gut Maine's generous welfare system. Education funding is next.

The situation is not going to be cured soon. Certainly not for the next 20 years.

Lewiston had damned well better start thinking about stress testing this community and preparing the citizens for what lies ahead. What are we going to do with our New Neighbors, seniors, the disabled when fed funding and state funding goes away or is cut substantially? Do we shut homes down? Do we let the disabled fend for themselves? Do we keep "welcoming" people to free housing who are needy in many ways? When is enough, enough?

To the liberals around this community, Bob Macdonald seems like an ogre that can easily be dismissed as any sort of name he can be called. I believe those same liberals, after the taxpayers have been forced to move out of town and the waves of freeloaders continue to pour in, might some day regret that Bob Macdonald was not listened to.

The storm clouds are clearly visible on the horizon. The foolhardy will ignore them and think that the land of government milk and honey will go on forever. But the emporer truly has no clothes.

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Bob Macdonald

I am a long time friend of Bob Macdonald, and to the liberals in this community, that implants a horn right in the middle of my growing forehead, I suppose. I first met Bob when he was a police officer and would come into Simones' for his morning coffee. He and I hit it off, and I suppose have had 2,000 or so conversations with Bob since then. So, I think I know Bob really well.

Bob decided to run for Mayor when he read about what he feels is free and easy money flowing out of City Hall to developers. He wonders where the controls are, and why money was dispensed, apparently, with no verification that real work (benchmarks) was actually accomplished. He feels that our tax monies should be spent wisely.

That is where it started, pure and simple. To hear the fear and innuendo tossed at Bob, you'd think he was the Grand Dragon of the KKK. He was even accused of wanting to hurt seniors and veterans in one ad that ran repeatedly.

Bob, in his time at Lewiston Middle School, never uttered a word to me of a racist topic, much less tone. He would talk in admiration of the Somali girls, who for the first time in their lives were able to flourish without male domination and repression. He would talk, in disgust, about gangsta males that would take an MEA assessment test and mark all "A's" or "B's" and pass the paper in and sit there waiting to be released after taking 3 minutes to do a 1 hour test. He felt badly for the staff of the school that was then adjudged to be "failing" by the bureaucrats. I'd say he was primarily concerned with generational welfare as much as anything and told me of kids that would tell their daughters that they didn't have to do their homework because "they could go on the state when they were 18 anyway." That frustrated Bob mightily.

The Paradis "Bob wants to hurt veterans" ads that ran in this paper were the most hurtful to Bob. Veterans affairs are a high priority in Bob's life and have been for many, many years. Bob spends hours and hours on vet causes. He is active in five vet organizations locally and is the Commander of the local VFW chapter currently. This tactic in attacking Bob is truly unfortunate. Bob will walk away from this campaign, win or lose, knowing that he took the high road and knows in his heart that he treated Mark with dignity and respect in the face of some very hurtful personal attacks.

I guess the entire campaign can be summed up by looking at the people that lined up behind the (we trust neutral) city clerk for the political rally in the city council chambers within a couple of hours of Mark's death on Friday. They represented all that Bob is running against. The ultimate city insiders that have left Lewiston with a huge government dependent downtown and over a $150 million in debt. Maybe that is their vision of Lewiston for the future but it certainly isn't Bob's. Bob represents a vision of personal accountability and rejecting the entitlement mentality that pervades Lewiston's culture. The insiders vision, while good for the insiders, is a slow road to nowhere for Lewiston.

With the insider vision, it is stay the course. Mark never offered any more, and either has the Sun-Journal, champion of the "Grand Experiment" that has failed so spectacularly over the past 10 years of massive welfare in Lewiston.

With two community organizers from hard left wing going on the city council, God only knows where Lewiston will be in 2 years. It won't be pretty, for sure.

So, if you want more of the same, vote for Mark's vision as articulated by the insiders in plain view last Friday. My guess is that it won't work but time will tell.

The reality of politics is that people get the government they deserve.

Bob can offer nothing more but a chance at a fresh start towards prosperity.

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Shameless Performance

Mark Paradis was a gentleman. I last talked to him as we gathered for the debate at the Lewiston Public Library. He was cordial even though he knew that I was supporting Bob Macdonald.

The performance of Bernier and Gilbert at the press conference was sickening. It was within a few hours of Mark's passing, and these two are out there, playing cheap, sleazy politics with Mark's death. I noted that Gilbert took the opportunity to tell the audience who great a job he has done at Mayor. A true narcissist.

We, in the much maligned Macdonald camp, are truly shocked and saddened at Mark's passing. We have pulled ads scheduled to run Monday and Tuesday out of respect for Mark's memory. We tried to change the content of the ads from politics to rememberance, but we were unable to, on Friday afternoon, change words that were scheduled to run on Monday morning, so we just pulled the ad entirely.

What can we do? When the newspaper is playing politics, it is an uphill task all the way.

It's all up to the voters now. God help the city of Lewiston.

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Extreme Partisan?

We are treated by a large image of one of the most partisan people in the Maine legislature at the bottom of the "op-ed." I shudder to think that a person with such limited financial skills sits on Appropriations.

Elections do have consequences. We see one of them above. And we now see others, such as the change in control of the MSHA board.

Craven and her ilk have ruined the state. MSHA is but one cabal that needs to be cleaned out, starting with the top.

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And those that did get a free lunch...

worked in the kitchen or swept the floor after lunch. This cut into their recess time. Could you imagine that happening now? The ACLU would sue.

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What a sad post that was Breton

All of us that are helping Bob Macdonald in this campaign are deeply saddened by Mr. Paradis announcement. Politics is just that...politics. We have an opponent that is not only running for office, but is also beginning a fight for his life. We wish him Godspeed and pray, and hope, for the best. May he gain strength from his family and his God in this difficult hour, and in the long fight ahead.

Bob Stone
Cancer survivor and "normal" the last time I checked

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Good for you, Tony

I guess if I read the comments section, name calling will be part of the experience and something I'll have to endure. There is a difference between disparaging and posting facts, by the way.

Have a very merry Christmas!

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Why The Name Calling?

I've likely raised more for charitable causes around Lewiston than you'll make in your sad life. People that call people names are have maturity issues.

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http://www.ci.lewiston.me.us/

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Mayor Larry - Tune In Tuesday Evening

He has a special proclamation to read. It will warm our local liberals' hearts!

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I'll Stand for Bob Macdonald

Politics is messy. The politics of personal destruction is ugly. I've known Attorney Elliot Epstein for a number of years and was more than a little surprised at the name calling in his latest column. Bob Macdonald, despite what the opposition is trying to make Lewiston citizens believe, is none of the names spewed forth in the unfortunate column.

Bob is running a campaign where he is stating his belief that Lewiston will not reach its potential until the huge welfare problem that is clearly dragging Lewiston down is addressed. If the insiders don't feel that there is a problem and it is something that we all should ignore, then stay the course and vote Bob down. But you will not find Bob Macdonald tearing down his opponent with name calling and innuendo.

Bob is not hiding behind anyone and is his own man.

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Local

I don't know what a "Portland attitude" is. While I certainly appreciate Attorney Epstein's considerable work with Museum L/A, it doesn't make his knowledge of the candidate Macdonald accurate. It was a gratuitous smear attempt and I am sorry that the Sun-Journal chose to feature it. It reflects very badly on Attorney Epstein and the paper that ran it.

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Et tu, Robert?

Sad.

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Elliott Sees It the Sun-Journal Way

I don't. They own the paper, ink and press. No chance of any balance on 104 Park.

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I Expected More from Elliot Epstein

Well, it appears that the local intelligentsia, embodied in the form of Portland attorney Epstein, have come out to do some character assassination and wild-eyed demagoguery of their own in the above op-ed. One of the oldest political tricks in the book is an attempt to define a candidate for the electorate in on the pages of a sympathetic media publication. The name calling and attempts to smear the name of Bob Macdonald are, indeed, unfortunate and not becoming of Mr. Epstein.

Elliot admits, in his gratuitous rant, that he has never met Bob Macdonald. Yet, in an amazing feat of psychic capacity, he tells us what Bob is thinking. One would think that he would have sat down with Bob over coffee and actually conversed with Bob as part of the research for his long-winded piece. But Elliot already knew what Bob thought so what would be the point, right?

One would also think that a well-skilled “Officer of the Court” could also get by with less name calling. Let’s look at what Elliot called Bob:
- A demagogue
- Xenophobe
- Back-handed racist
- Offensive
I know Bob Macdonald, and he is far from a racist. In our hundreds of conversations while he was an Ed-Tech at Lewiston Middle School, he often talked about working with all kinds of kids and once told me that a Somali young lady was the best student he had at the school and how impressed he was with her. She demanded excellence of herself and would be upset if she missed a question. He would rail about the parents of (very white) youngsters who told their children that school wasn’t important because they could always collect welfare to get by in life.

If Elliot had done his research, he might have visited Bob’s Facebook page and viewed a photo of Macdonald surrounded by a very diverse group of school children. Everyone was smiling. It might have done Elliot’s heart good and warmed it on these chilly November days.
It seems that the leftist elite are always thinking about who they can brand as a “racist.” It is getting tiresome. What Bob is an equal opportunity opponent of generational welfare…better known as lazy people who think working people owe them a living.

Here’s a bulletin for Elliot and the other Lewiston-Auburn name callers. Bob Macdonald wants to turn Lewiston around. There is no pride in noting that the two poorest census tracts in Maine are smack dab in the heart of the “All-America City.” As long as Lewiston’s elite keep the welfare flowing and affordable ( as in projects) housing growing, Lewiston is going to have a not a chance at returning to the vibrant community it once was.

Epstein speaks with pride about his father who came and flourished in America. My guess is that Elliot’s father came to America to work, full well knowing that work would provide opportunity and prosperity for he and his family. Work probably had a great deal to do with getting little Elliot to law school.

But enough with the moral equivalence of our ancestors to today’s garden variety welfare recipient. My ancestors where Irish and Acadian. The Irishmen dug the canals and built the mills. The Acadians worked in the mills. They didn’t come to Lewiston for the welfare.

There are little or no parallels to be drawn between our ancestors and the generational welfare recipients of today.

Macdonald stands with open arms to welcome all comers who want to work for a living in Lewiston. Macdonald is a threat to the industry that has flourished in Lewiston to oversee
the generational welfare recipients who have no intention to ever get off government assistance.

I would suggest that Elliot Epstein come up from Portland and have a coffee with Bob before writing his next rant.

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Unions

And, of course, the unions NEVER pull any last minute moves. This story is laughable in its bias.

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I support extensive testing

Every payday, a portion of my earnings goes to the state to fund our very generous public assistance. I expect that those on public assistance are not going to use a portion of my earnings to purchase illegal substances. Accordingly, the Governor and, hopefully, our legislature, will install a rigorous testing program to prevent my, and hundreds of thousands of other working people's salaries, to go to the drug dealers from Maine and away roaming our streets. Let's see if the legislature has the collective backbone to get this done.

This is not grandstanding. It is good government.

My guess is that Tarren is still Governor LePage's "buddy." Tarren is a very impressive fellow.

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Grasping At Straws Terry

Nice try, but this is a federal program. Last I checked, Paul LePage is governor of the State of Maine. The governor is working hard to improve the collective lot of the people of this great state. If you think he would let any citizen freeze, you've got the wrong man.

You remind me of the dalmation dog we had when we were kids. Scratch him in just the right place on his side, and his leg would scratch reflexively. If the Sun-Journal posts anything that is remotely problematic, here comes a post from you, trashing a good man. It is getting old. Perhaps you should go back to the state that you came from and let us Mainers deal with our issues.

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I am 60 years old( retired

I am 60 years old( retired because of health issues-- I paid into both Social Security and , the Maine Reirement systems because I worked several jobs besides teaching to make ends meet like many others .
***Hope you have a long and happy retirement. With that defined benefit plan, you won't have to worry about outliving your retirement. Good for you.

-- I started paying Social Security at age 14 and Maine State retiremnt at age 23 when I earned my degree which I worked to pay for. I paid 34 years to Maine retirement and 20+ off and on to Sccial Security.. I Paid over 7% of each of my checks to Maine retirement so a lot of the money you are calling MAINES in MINE and other retires --we paid it in just like you paid in to Social Security.

***There is no equivalence between MAINEPers and Social Security. Your contributions were quite wisely and properly invested, and earned interest (9.5% average return over the past 30 years). There was no such investment of your (and mine) social security contributions.

***Note: Interested readers can click over to www.maineopengov.org and see your retirement date, your wages in the year you retired, your contribution into MAINEPers and the projected payments that you will receive during your projected retirement. It is quite instructive.

Social Security has money in the form of Billions in US BOND -- so you will lose your money only if the USA defaults on it BONDs.

***Not true: The pols in Washington can change the rules of the SS game at any time, and have. They can raise retirement age (now 67); they can means test; they can default. Many ways to move the goalposts, and more and more likely with the passing months.

I am sure you will work to make sure this does not happen.

***I have one vote. I will try.

If your are in Socail security you have an earned benefits agreement with the USA -- you paidabout 6% per check and have earned a benefit based on the agreement- you should be holding your US SEn. and Reps to the agreement.

***Ha ha. Good attempt at humor. Michaud is down there, spending like a drunken fork lift driver. ANd Snowe and Collins have been busily spending my contributions for years.

I will not be able to collect my earned Social Security like you -- because I paid into the Maine system the Federal govt' will take 2/3 of my earned benefits from the money I paid in for years to Social Security . So I am so lucky I have the Federal govt taking away my social security (Social Security OFFset Law) and the State of Maine taking MY COLA --

***Why is that fair? You should be getting a return on your invested social security contributions like the rest of the contributors. Call your congress person! The recent adjustments to COLA are deminimus in comparsion to the screw job you are getting.

By the way, MAINEPers had to dip into principal recently to cover payments OUT that exceeded payments IN. I think to the tune of $181 million. That might give you an idea as to why some corrective action was necessary by the legislature. (see 'taking MY COLA)

I really hope you fair better with your Social Security .

***Another good laugh. No chance, Ms. Ward.

Maine does not reserve money for the private sector because you did not pay into the maine retirement system.

***Nor do I expect that any money would be reserved by Maine. I did expect that my contribution would be reserved, and they were not. I wonder how many working Mainers have any idea that what they have put has been spent?

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You Doth Protest Too Much, Crystal

A few questions:

1. At what age did you retire? Most of my associates in the private sector are working well into their 60's and projections are for private sector employees to work longer and longer.

2. What is your pension amount, gross, per month? I have worked and contributed to FICA since I was 13 years of age. All of my contributions have been spent by the Democrats and Republicans in Washington. Any future Social Security income are totally dependent on future congresses agreeing to appropriate then current dollars for SS benefits for my wife and I. I believe you have a "defined benefit" that will have to be paid, come hell or high water, by Maine's taxpayers. The last I checked, the state had reserved $9.6 BILLION in the MAINEPers fund as of September 30th. Please note that there is NOTHING reserved for private sector workers.

I doubt that you will answer my questions, but you are in a much better position financially than most of us laboring in the private sector. I have no problem with educators pensions. Just don't whine before you look at the sad plight of the people who are still working to pay their bills.

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Debt

As citizens discuss school buildings, it might be helpful to understand a little about Auburn's debt status. We aren't going to get that perspective from the Sun-Journal where money showers down from the yum-yum tree in the "Land of the Grand Experiment."

The taxpayers of the city currently are on the hook for over $80 million of debt. While it pales considerably from Lewiston's $180 million, just remember that the full faith and credit of the City of Auburn is collateralizing all of this debt.

Full faith and credit means that, in the event of a default, all of the real estate within the city limits is pledged and available for aquisition by the bondholders. All means "everything." Not just the library, but also "your house." So, as we discuss building new schools and "going it alone" on a "new EL", just rememember the stakes involved.

Don't think a default is realistic? Ask the people of Central Falls, RI or Harrisburg, PA about reality.

Maine law doesn't permit a technical default. It does require the state to step in and operate the municipality. It will, as a matter of first priority, keep citizens safe. But financial steps will have to be taken to pay off the crushing debt.

Proceed cautiously.

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Of course there is a form

It is called an application.

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I can see why it would

work well in your mind. Have fun!

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Your Repeated Use of the Term...

"taliban Paul" reflects very poorly on the Comments Section of the Sun-Journal and yourself. Your message about attending fairs in Maine is appropriate (Do you know if the Governor has, in fact, attended any?) but inserting a non-sensical insult to Maine's current Governor cheapens your effort considerably. Have fun with the name calling. It takes all kinds, folks.

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Memories

I can recall seeing JFK speaking on the city park Gazebo. It was a cold night in November and Kennedy was very late arriving (4 hours or so). My brother and I were hanging around the Lisbon and Chestnut corner with my Dad. Despite the cold, the air was electric with anticipation.

There were thousands of people in the park.

I can recall thinking how red JFK's hair was under the spotlights.

Meanwhile, out in Chicago, the dead were rising from their graves to vote...for a fee, of course.

The next day, Henry Cabot Lodge appeared on the Gazebo. There were about 50 people there. Talk about a waste of av gas to fly him up to Democrat laden Lewiston.

I missed LBJ's visit.

The Gazebo represents a Lewiston long since faded away in mists of history. The street names are the same, but instead of being the "Industrial Heart of Maine", it is a service center community, whatever the heck that is.

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And now, the rest of the story...

I expect more out of the Sun-Journal. Let's look at the full Bruce Poliquin "story".

1. Bruce has been a tireless advocate of regaining control of Maine's unfunded pension debt. He, and the legislature, managed to pass pension reforms that will save Maine taxpayers, a dwindling lot, about $1.8 BILLION in taxes between now an 2027. No mention of that in the Mistler article.

2. Bruce has been a tireless advocate of reducing our borrowing costs. He exposed a expensive junket policy that the Maine Municipal Bond Bank enjoyed (expensive restaurants, extravagant hotel rooms in NYC) and so upset the Executive Director of the MMBB that Lenna claimed "I don't eat at Wendy's!" Good for taxpayers, bad for bureaucrats.

3. Bruce actually got financial firms to bid on financing. In the past, this was not the case. Again, good for taxpayers.

4. Bruce has been an activist board member on the various state agency boards he sits on. Good for the taxpayers.

5. Bruce retained practically the entire staff of the State Treasurer's office, appointed by the previous administration, including the former director of the Maine Democratic Party. He recognizes good talent when he sees it.

6. Cynthia Dill is one of the most partisan members of the legislature. Sourcing her in a story is worthless other than to fan the flames of partisanship.

7. Bruce is working hard for the Maine taxpayer. He's had a great start and I hope he keeps it up!

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You Bet I Am Backing Bob Macdonald

Here is why:

1. He has served his city well. A Lewiston Police Officer. An Ed Tech at Lewiston Middle School. He has been in the trenches and knows the city well. While on the Lewiston PD, he was a DARE Officer. He has a special gift for working with Lewiston's young people.

2. Bob has served his country well. He is a Vietnam veteran who enlisted in the United States Marine Corps out of high school. He was "boots on the ground" in Vietnam. He has continued to serve his fellow vets in a number of veteran organizations...in leadership positions...to this day.

3. Bob has a high powered campaign machine working very quietly in the background. He will come out of nowhere to win this race.

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Macdonald Looks Strong

Word on the street is that Bob Macdonald is mounting a formidable campaign. People are fed up with the welfare culture that has enveloped Lewiston and want something done about it.

Time to get Lewiston back to the working city it once was.

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Who Is Negative?

I am sorry that Judith feels that my lawn, which I work very diligently at mowing, treating, raking, policing (as in picking up stray paper and sticks), is a sign that I have "nothing more to do." I work full time, volunteer for the betterment of the community, and recreate to fill my days and evenings. I have precious little time to take care of my lawn, but I manage to get it done. I have a feeling that many of the lawn owners in the Twin Cities are in my situation as well, and Judith insulted us in one fell swoop.

Who is being negative?

Most people that frequent our great outdoor lands in Maine were taught to carry out our trash and dispose of it in proper containers. It is a very simple concept, actually.

In warm weather, anyone driving by Kennedy Park in Lewiston can see hundreds of "newcomers" enjoying the facility. If you go by early enough the next morning, you will observe a pig pen of trash. If you wait for a while, you will see a crew of city employees descend on Kennedy Park and police the park in earnest.

There is apparently a shortage of trash barrels in Kennedy Park. Another explanation may be that the trash is dropped onto the verdant grass by the park goers. You decide.

I can recall walking down Park Street one day and a van full of apparent "newcomers" approached. Lo and behold, a soiled diaper must have blown out of the van and scaled through the air, plopping in the gutter. As the van passed me by, it was apparent that the many occupants thought this to be quite a humor-filled event.

As a person who lives and works in the Twin Cities, I found this to be a bit disheartening. When in Rome, do as the Romans do, and dispose of your trash the American way... in a trash can.

My folks would ask me when, as a youngster, I was less than quick to pick up any trash that I had created, "Were you born in a barn?"

Even a dog doesn't sleep where s/he poops for God's sake.

All of the block parties in Christendom won't teach people basic sanitary practices. Perhaps Catholic Charities could provide a class in how to use a trash barrel and proper disposable diaper techniques.

Just about 10 years ago, I organized a group of about 20 working people to pick up every scrap of trash in a two block area bordered by Pine, Park, Chestnut and Canal Street. We used latex gloves for protection from haz mats and filled numerous trash bags full of the most unholy collection of offal that you'd ever want to view. Not one person came out of an apartment to assist. One woman yelled out of her apartment "Don't bother!" We had hoped that our efforts would spread throughout the downtown and the tree street area. It is just awful today.

At least Kennedy Park gets picked up.

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Where does J go to get his reputation back?

This made front page news, replete with reporting errors.

I can recall when a sitting legislator from Lewiston got loaded and plowed into an innocent motorist at the corner of College and Russell. It took about a month for that to make the Sun-Journal. And it was buried in the bowels of the paper when it finally made it.

Depends upon what party you are affiliated with.

Managing your news for you.

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Lewiston and Auburn Deserve Chellie Pingree

The "intelligent Democratic voters" of Lewiston and Auburn deserve Chellie. She votes for larger government, higher taxes and more government spending, all values of the intelligent Democrat. It will be a thrill to see her hubby's gaz guzzling corporate jet on final approach to the Auburn-Lewiston Municipal airport when she comes up to make a campaign stop in the Lew. Maybe she'll be able to bring more affordable housing to our fine cities.

You should thank those pesky Republicans for proposing to give you the chance to make an intelligent choice for an intelligent uber leftist. You'll love Obamacare, high inflation rates, the devalued dollar, soaring grocery prices, expensive gas and heating oil...all brought to you by Chellie and Barack.

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Does Michaud know what Gerrymandering is?

I read a press release from a Peter Chandler this afternoon. It was a plea for money for the Michaud campaign. There were at least two obvious typos in the release. I am embarrassed to have a congressman with the lack of skills that Michaud displays.

In the press release, the was a rant about "gerrymandering." The GOP map hardly looks gerrymandered.

Take a look at Barney Frank's gerrymandered district:

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Now, there is classic gerrmandering.

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Does Michaud know what Gerrymandering is?

I read a press release from a Peter Chandler this afternoon. It was a plea for money for the Michaud campaign. There were at least two obvious typos in the release. I am embarrassed to have a congressman with the lack of skills that Michaud displays.

In the press release, the was a rant about "gerrymandering." The GOP map hardly looks gerrymandered.

Take a look at Barney Frank's gerrymandered district:

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Now, there is classic gerrmandering.

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That is a very strong accusation, Dan

1. Have you talked with Governor LePage and did he tell you he dodged the draft?

2. Or, are you surmising that he went to Canada to escape being drafted? Are you prepared to defame a man on the basis of your guess?

3. Do you attempt to defame people regularly?

4. Do you know the date of the Governor's graduation from Husson?

5. Do you know the Governor's draft status during his college years?

6. When did the Governor start and end graduate school?

7. When did the Vietnam War draft end?

8. Men born in what year were drafted first in the year after the Governor graduated from business school?

9. Was a bi-lingual accounting major sought after in the Maine and/or Canadian lumber industry in the mid 1970's?

I await the answers to these questions. I think an apology is in order to the readers.

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Your facts are wrong

Why do you insist on lying?

$12 trillion of debt is the responsibility of Republican Presidents and Republican Congress?

$17 trillion is only a problem if we refuse to pay for it? Ever heard of debt service costs?

The top 1% have received 100% of the benefits of economic growth? The other 99% have received no benefits?

99% of the tax burden on the top 1% is "fair"?

The downgrade of US debt was as the result of too much debt with no plan to retire said debt. The fact is the only people clamoring for an end to the "spending orgy" are the very people you routinely trash.

Why put yourself out there as a bald faced liar?

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Why didn't it crash?

The economy hasn't crashed. The total debt has reached a level where it becomes very difficult for the American taxpayer to service. S & P has said repeatedly that it wasn't the ceiling, it is the total debt load. Congress is legislating increased spending and is paying for it by borrowing. Obama is signing said legislation.

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Claire...

You didn't answer my question. How is $15 trillion in debt good for America?

There was no heart attack. The debt limit (a silly concept)has been increased 95 times. How is this good?

Don't forget that federal debt is not the only debt that Americans are saddled with. We have state debt. We have municipal debt. We have school debt. We have utility debt. We have pension obligations. It all adds up to over $100 trillion in debt.

On top of that, we have personal debt for cars, boats, snowmobiles, houses, time shares, vacation homes and every other toy known to Americans.

When does it stop?

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Simple Question

Claire...

How is $15 trillion in debt good for America?

I await your response.

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Let's Deal With the Facts

Mr. Albrecht:

Our national debt is racing toward $15 trillion, headed for $17 trillion. How can that be good for America?

Where are we going to get the money to repay $17 trillion? The top 1% of taxpayers now pay 38% of all federal income taxes paid. The top 10% pay 69%.

I guess we could always print the money to pay it off.

Please, Mr. Albrecht, be serious. Our debt ceiling has been raised, by Congress, 95 times.

Kerry says it's the Tea Party. Obama says it's Standard & Poors. Barney Frank says it's the military. No...wait...now it's Ayn Rand.

LOL

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Pure Poppycock

Where does this Rooks guy read his history? Howard Zinn?

Probably one of the most factually incorrect screeds I have ever skimmed in this liberal mouthpiece named the Sun-Journal.

For starters, I would suggest that Rooks do some research as to the heavy financial support for Obama the emanates from Wall Street. Obama is Wall Street's guy and Rooks is oblivious to it.

Clinton's "surpluses" were as the result of the largest tax increase in American history coupled with the ill-fated "dot com" boomlet that came crashing down with little dignity, grace and elegance. It was a phony as the disbarred lawyer that Clinton is.

And Rooks conveniently avoids mentioning the real problem that all Americans are about to pay dearly for: Democrat debt.

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There is no proof that there isn't fraud

The proponents of last minute registration, as in strolling in on Election Day to register when you have had about 250 days in the previous years to register, write with smug certainty that everything is on squeaky clean in Maine elections. I am not so sure.

Who checks to see if a Maine college student hasn't, in fact, voted absentee in their home town? The correct answer: No one.

How easy would it be to cross check? The answer is: Very.

How many senior citizens register to vote on Election Day? The answer: Very few.

If I approach a polling place and I am unknown to the voting clerk, what do I have to do to prove that I am, in fact, the person I say I am? The answer: Not a blessed thing.

Are Maine's voter lists free of dead or re-located registered voters? The answer: No.

Do the Democrats have access to the voter lists? The answer: Yes.

What is to keep the Democrats from sending people from city to city, armed with a name they know won't be voting in a city due to death or relocation, and instructing them to vote? The answer: Nothing.

How often are fraudulent voters detected? The answer: Almost never.

There is one reason why the Democrats are so upset about voter ID and losing same day registration. Easy votes.

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My Guess is...

...there aren't a large number of million dollar estates in Maine. Maybe a bunch of liberals maintain large estates and are still living more than 180 days here. Many of the affluent have long since flown the coop.

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I Guess You Did Miss It as...

LePage is looking for $100 million a year.

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There you go again, Terry...

...playing the class card, also Obama's favorite.

So, let's do the math and dissect your screed. Your post would have the uninitiated and uninformed believe that enough "rich people" will die in the next year to escape $100 million in estate taxes. A simple calculation, even for those who are graduating from our math challenged elementary school system, would reveal that "rich Mainers" with a ***billion dollars*** in estates would have to croak to generate your mythical $100 million.

Even the Maine Center for Economic Policy would be hard pressed to make this claim. Your talking points don't hold any semblance to reality. Sorry.

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Too Many People Living off the Fat of the Land

If we were all working hard to make our own way, this fiscal mess that is the USA would be a different environment. But, sadly from my perspective, we are not. The "Great Society" of LBJ spawned an entitlement class that has grown to include nearly 50% of Americans.

It's grown to an extent that it is too large to disband. We are headed to oblivion, that I am absolutley certain of.

I expect to lose Social Security, Medicare, my 401-k, my job and likely my life to the "system."

As to the myth that more taxes will solve our national mess, I urge the reader to study the "Laffer Curve." We are over the top of the curve and on the way down the parabola.

And, remember, 45% of Americans contribute nothing to in income taxes to the tax rolls.

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The use of the word "dope" was not lost on me

Mistler wasn't very nice in his subtle connection of "dope" to Webster and Summers. I merely turned the tables around and called him on it. It is fun to call people names, but not so much fun to be called on it, apparently.

It goes both ways in life. Sometimes you are the windshield;sometimes you are the bug.

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And I forgot...

Over to "Tron"

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Where's the Dope?

I think we can find him at the keyboard.

Suggest locating this on the Editorial Page, if you had to run it at all.

Wasted 5 minutes reading this. Should have known better.

Why are ad revenues down again?

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The system is mighty loose now

I think the loose system more than counter balances subtracting 2 days from the registration window.

It is a fact that many dead or re-located remain on the voter rolls. The voter lists are available to anyone who wants to pay for them.

A person, who wants to vote in place of the decedent or re-located, can approach the election clerk and claim to be a person s/he is not. The clerk will check the voter list, check off the registered voter, and hand the fraudulent voter the ballot(s).

Where are the controls? The hole is large enough to drive Lewiston Ladder One through it.

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Vote Once

Every citizen should get to vote once per election. Not too much to ask.

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The lefties are out in force on this one...

knuckleheads, rogue, tyrannical, sycophants, Gestapo, zealot, ideologue, dough boy

Waiting in breathless anticipation for the next screed, I'm learning many new words.

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If the Democrats Regain the Blaine House Someday...

...they can paste it back up with great celebration. The Governor is the ***elected*** CEO of the state and should be able to manage buildings to his liking. I am sure that a re-installed mural will give the Democrats unbounded joy.

I would like the Democrats to explain what chapter of Maine's Labor History did Laura Fortman play. She is prominently featured in the mural. Was she part of the great unrest of the 1930's in Auburn? Has she labored in the textile mills in Lewiston? I get it. She approved the requisition that paid the artist. No wonder she is in the mural. The Sun-Journal's ace reporters should do a story on Laura's role in Maine labor history.

This tempest in a teapot is a giant load of horse manure, in my opinion.

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One Vote

My interest is in verifying that everyone votes ONCE. Vote in the college town, but not at home. Or vice versa. No one is checking on this, and that is a shame.

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The Sun-Journal Could Help Prove that there is no voter fraud

There is no evidence that there is no voter fraud in Maine. Just because the Editorial Board thinks (and writes) that there is no voter fraud in Maine, doesn't mean it is factual.

I don't know about busloads of fraudulent voters showing up to register on Election Day. What I do know is that there are thousands of 18-22 year old college students showing up to register every Election Day, especially in "Presidential Year" elections. And I do know that there are no cross checks between votes cast here in Maine college towns and against votes cast in their "home" towns.

I would like to see the Sun-Journal hire an independent firm to cross check the Lewiston votes cast against the votes cast at the "home" towns of Bates College students during the past election. The city of Lewiston records every voter casting a vote in Lewiston elections. I am sure that many of the "home" towns also keep records of who showed up at the polls or who voted absentee.

It would be swell if it was verified that every college student voting in Lewiston cast but ONE vote in the last election. It would also be satisfying to see voters who cast two or more votes charged with voter fraud and do time in the "big house."

That would be a great community service by the Sun-Journal. Voting is sacred, paid for by the blood of many, many Americans. We all get to vote ONCE per election. One violation is as bad as 10,000.

I am only dreaming, of course. Such a study is beneath the liberal mind set, because it could "never happen." So it is written.

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The Sun-Journal Could Help Prove that there is no voter fraud

There is no evidence that there is no voter fraud in Maine. Just because the Editorial Board thinks (and writes) that there is no voter fraud in Maine, doesn't mean it is factual.

I don't know about busloads of fraudulent voters showing up to register on Election Day. What I do know is that there are thousands of 18-22 year old college students showing up to register every Election Day, especially in "Presidential Year" elections. And I do know that there are no cross checks between votes cast here in Maine college towns and against votes cast in their "home" towns.

I would like to see the Sun-Journal hire an independent firm to cross check the Lewiston votes cast against the votes cast at the "home" towns of Bates College students during the past election. The city of Lewiston records every voter casting a vote in Lewiston elections. I am sure that many of the "home" towns also keep records of who showed up at the polls or who voted absentee.

It would be swell if it was verified that every college student voting in Lewiston cast but ONE vote in the last election. It would also be satisfying to see voters who cast two or more votes charged with voter fraud and do time in the "big house."

That would be a great community service by the Sun-Journal. Voting is sacred, paid for by the blood of many, many Americans. We all get to vote ONCE per election. One violation is as bad as 10,000.

I am only dreaming, of course. Such a study is beneath the liberal mind set, because it could "never happen." So it is written.

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Working ... Lot of people depending upon me

I'll get back to you later.

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You are going off on a tangent

I am not laughing because Obama's transformation of America is hurting all income levels in America. Someday you will understand it all, Tony. It turns out the Obama has zero executive experience as my conclusively proves. I don't operate under the various "derangement" syndromes that many liberals embrace.

It might shock you to learn that I am not a Palin sycophant. I am hoping the Governor of Texas, Rick Perry, steps in, wins the nomination, and runs against Obama. Go ahead and tear Governor Perry apart now.

As to your lame ending paragraph, I will bet that I have done more in my adult career for "the poor" than you could ever imagine. I started my adult career with an honorable discharge and 45 bucks in my pocket. I could have stayed there, wallowing in poverty and whining "Poor me." But I took on some personal accountability, moved to where the jobs were, and made my way in life. Three concepts I would recommend to any "poor" person: 1. personal accountability 2. Find a job...it likely won't be in L-A 3. make your own way. Don't keep waiting for someone else to hand it too you. That is pure compassion.

I don't "put poor people down." I encourage them to get their butt into a job and move up and out of their doldrums. Finding work is a full time job and starts with them.

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Tony...You have provided NO Executive Experience in your List ..

for Barack Hussein Obama. Let's look at the evidence to prove my statement:

Director, Developing Communities Project

*** in other words, a community organizer.

*** how is that executive experience?

President, Harvard Law Review

*** student extra-curricular activity. By the way, I know an attorney who was at Harvard Law with Obama and he claims he was useless as an editor and was the first "Editor" in the history of the review that never had an article published. He said it was obvious that the position was a gift from a guilt-wracked faculty. It was a big joke at the Law School at that time amongst the students.

*** how is that executive experience?

Magna Cum Laude, Harvard Law

*** let's see his college transcripts. Why won't he release them?

*** how is that executive experience?

Author

*** how is that executive experience?

(Part time) Professor of Con Law

*** how is that executive experience?

Civil rights lawyer

*** how is that executive experience?

Board Member for non-profits

*** how is that executive experience?

Illinois State Senator

*** how is that executive experience?

US Senator (which he sat for a very short period of time, voting "present" often, as he began his run for POTUS)

I see NO executive experience at all. Care to rebut?

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There is some tortured logic...

...Dan. Using adjectives like moronic and stupid imply behavior that a moron or a stupid person might display. Paul and I are in sync. He's a moron and I'm stupid in your bizarro world. So be it.

I don't know much about Bachman but I don't think Palin has made much money off of the government. And LePage left home at 11, so he never benefited from the largess you speak of for very long.

The truth of the matter is that life in Maine hasn't changed very much after the first few months of the LePage administration. Income taxes a bit lower and some things to look forward to, but the sky is not falling on the liberals.

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Please Cite Obama's Executive Experience

What did Obama run prior to running for POTUS? Let's have the facts.

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"Moronic" ?

The "morons" you have labeled in your reply have done fairly well in life. Indeed, some would say that they are winners in the game of life. All are well off, comfortable, and very successful in their public careers. I am amazed at the the left and their quickness to write off someone as "moronic" when they don't agree with the socialistic political/economic model. A model, I will dare say, has failed where ever it was attempted, especially in Maine.

It was well known to many, prior to the last presidential election, the Palin, even as Vice President, was very much more qualified than a community activist state senator from Chicago, who has been handed just about anything he ever attempted in life.

I give much credit to LePage, the "moron" who made it from the hallways of Lewiston to the Blaine House. Quite a journey for such a moron, oui?

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"Moronic" ?

The "morons" you have labeled in your reply have done fairly well in life. Indeed, some would say that they are winners in the game of life. All are well off, comfortable, and very successful in their public careers. I am amazed at the the left and their quickness to write off someone as "moronic" when they don't agree with the socialistic political/economic model. A model, I will dare say, has failed where ever it was attempted, especially in Maine.

It was well known to many, prior to the last presidential election, the Palin, even as Vice President, was very much more qualified than a community activist state senator from Chicago, who has been handed just about anything he ever attempted in life.

I give much credit to LePage, the "moron" who made it from the hallways of Lewiston to the Blaine House. Quite a journey for such a moron, oui?

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Orator or Governor? I'll take the latter

Paul LePage does not have the speaking skills of the great orators of our time. Certainly not a Churchill, Moynihan, Hubert Horatio Humphrey or Barack Hussein Obama. Some people, including this writer, votes not for the windbag, but for someone who can run a government executive department. LePage is LePage and, once again, has delivered in face of adversity.

For those who want the orator, LePage is not your man. And doesn't claim to be.

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40 years of malpractice cannot be reversed in a few months

The theme of Mr. Mistler's column illustrates precisely why the Governor has found better things to do than waste time with Maine media. It would be one thing if the media was intent on reporting the news. It is quite another if the media acts as jackals, looking to capitalize, politically, on every statement that the Governor utters.

The Governor accomplished much in his first few months as Maine's CEO. One only has to walk down Lewiston's Lisbon Street to see how Maine's Democrats have clobbered Maine. Layabouts, welfare sucking work avoiders, and boarded up storefronts dominate. 300,000 Maine residents and recent arrivals demand more and more money from the dwindling people that are still willing to get up in the morning and go to work. 300,000 may equate to a gold star for government to the editorial staff at the Sun-Journal and their Democrate benefactors, but I regard it as a shameful testament to a Maine economy that has failed.

Sadly, a number of Maine GOP legislators did "come after" the Governor. A number went wobbly on him (and us) and caved in to the pressure of getting re-elected, putting self ahead of the best interests of a stronger, more economically vibrant, Maine. The Democrats voted NO on just about everything, seeking desperately to return to the failed polcies of Baldacci and King.

So, much was accomplished, and more will be accomplished next January. I don't care if the Governor ever talks to the so-called "reporters" again. If "reporters" start writing factual stories rather than Democrat press releases, maybe LePage will find some time to talk to them. With today's web-based news, who needs to read slanted printed media reports anyway?

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Nice Sentiment by The Governor

Very appropriate on this important holiday, Independence Day.

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Enough with the "Rope a Dope"...

...just tell the truth. You don't need Bonnie to run interference for you.

Integrity is a wonderful thing. And so much simpler.

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Very clever construct, Dan

To compare our Governor to the Taliban is just brilliant.

I think we have worn this thread out. See you on the next one!

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One more thing...

...is your use of the term "Taliban Paul." It is a free country, and you are free to use any term or word, of course.

What the 1st Amendment doesn't discuss is how the use of free speech reflects on the user in some cases.

67 years ago today, the Allies landed on the beaches of Normandy, France, to begin the liberation of Europe. It was a stunning achievement, little noted in the mainstream media in 2011. Tens of thousands of young American men participated in the landings, parachute landings and naval bombardment.

They fought, and many died, to preserve the right to call a public figure an insulting name. Enjoy the franchise, Dan. Many of those men have gone to their just rewards. Many more are still with us, and more than a few are probably a wee bit "senile."

I honor their sacrifice and their service on this day. The sad part is that many of them don't even remember what they did as young men in the surf 67 years ago.

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Most certainly senile, Dan, ...

...but find your positions interesting.

1. Paul's daughter, Lauren, is quite busy, thank you. Perhaps she would let you job shadow for a day?

2. Are you saying that ONLY the governor and first lady can reside in the Blaine House? That is news to me.

3. The Speaker of the House is elected by the legislature and not appointed by the governor. Your beef is with the legislators.

4. Perhaps you should contact the AG's office and see if they will hire you to prosecute Mr. Speaker. I am sure that the case has been roundly discussed by the previous administration and nothing has come of it. Perhaps you can shed new light on it?

5. Perhaps you can call the intrepid reporters at the Sun-Journal and get them on the case of that "stolen" mural? That sounds like a big theft.

6. Again, the Whoopie Pie fiasco happened in the legislature. The governor got to sign the bill. You seem to be repeatedly mixing up who is responsible for what in Augusta.

7. And what did the governor have to do with the allegedly psychotic legislator roaming the halls?

8. It seems to me that our high visibility President has had some nice trips. He's had them because he can afford to take them. What does his work schedule have to do with our Governor?

9. ACA, know to most as "ObamaCare", is current law. And there is nothing I can do about it. My feeling is that it will be relegated to the dust bin of failed and unintended consequences before it really kicks in during 2014. But it is up to the American people.

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As a retired educator...

...you have earned the roughly 50% of your monthly health insurance premium that we taxpayers are paying for you. Congratulations! The taxpayers are not paying anything for most of us, those that labor in the private sector. We are looking for relief from the oppressive premiums foisted upon us by our local legislators, namely Craven, Rotundo, Wagner, Lajoie and Bolduc. The Lepage health insurance reform is a huge step in the right direction, reversing decades of Democrat fiat that is getting very heavy to shoulder.

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Dan, Apprarently you ...

...are not paying attention to the substantive matters that Governor LePage is addressing in Augusta. There are many, but I won't waste your time or mine because you are not letting the important stuff sink in.

1. Health care reform. Note that most Democrats voted to maintain the status quo. Status quo means huge monthly premiums for the people in Maine who have to purchase their own health care coverage. Among those voting to drain the working people's wallets were Craven, Rotundo, Wagner, Bolduc. The health care reform passed by those fat cat Republicans will enable many Mainers to have a bit more, a lot more, cash to spend every month. Better cars, better food, better shelter, etc. That's real dollars that you are choosing to ignore.

2. Income tax reform. Our wonderful Governor has proposed major changes in the State Income tax. Now, working Mainers pay the top rate on earnings around 20,000. Under LePage's changes, Mainers working and earning less than $35,000 will not pay taxes. While Maine's liberals like to talk about how the GOP is all for the 'fat cats', they remain silent when reminded of this tax break for struggling working Mainers. Will the local Democrats vote against the pocketbooks of working Mainers on this bill? I would bet that they would vote against keeping taxes in place for 70,000 Mainers in this income bracket.

As to the other sad points you made:

1. Relatives hired. What's new?
2. Crooks - who?
3. Murals stolen - where?
4. Whoopie pies - LePage had nothing to do with this.
5. Psychotic legislators - the man is sick and appropriate security was enacted
6. Jamaican vacation - if he can afford it, why not? Your man Obama is off on vacation often. I don't read about your concerns in his case.
7. Obama's ACA - it won't be around very long. Enjoy it while you read the bill.

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Surely, You Jest...

...Dan Breton. "Recover?" If a march to socialism is your goal, then, yes. It will take a while to undo the good work of Governor LePage and the majority GOP currently in control. In the first few months of the new administration, scores of positive improvements have been made. Take the healthcare insurance legislation for example. Over the protests of the minority party, Maine working families, the ones that are paying for their own health insurance (not the 301,000 people that are having their's paid for by Maine's working families in addition to their own), will save hundreds of dollars per month in premiums.

As an aside, I find it incredible that Lewiston's legislators, led by Senator Margaret Craven, could vote to retain the expensive-for-working-Mainers status quo. Craven and the rest get their health care provided free to them, while the rest of the working Mainers can "eat cake" and suck it up and pay large.

So, Dan Breton, I see no buffoonary in saving money for Maine's hard working taxpayers. I see good, sound, financial responsibility.

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As I wrote...

I'd have let that sad work of "art" hang right there, to remind folks of the Maine the Paul LePage is trying to improve upon. What part of the "turmoil" did Laura Fortman experience. She's depicted on the mural quite clearly.

1. I know all about the Heritage Foundation and the "Koch brothers money." The right has its donors and the left has theirs, such as Soros and the Tides Foundation. That is the way politics work.

2. Why do you insist on using words like "wacko?" In my view, the left wants to manage government one way...which I happen to disagree with. Socialism doesn't work. Socialism only works until you run out of other people's money. I think reasonable people should be able to discuss politics with out using insulting terms.

3. All of the tools and schemes used to launder money is not unique to the right, Dan. Your argument there is a non-starter.

4. The irony of the class card is that many of the labor unions and pension funds that are loaded with leftist members are heavily invested in the same companies that leftists castigate so readily. You know why Dan? Because the make money and pay dividends. Those are two attributes that you might want assets in your portfolio to do. So, your complaining about "big oil" and CMP doesn't move this writer. It's all so, well, empty in its sad rhetoric. Methinks you protest to much.

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You see truth as A. Weiner sees it, Dan

1. The sign stolen in Kittery was clearly stating that Maine is interested in attracting business. In the common vernacular of the day "Open to it." Nothing more, nothing less. Your attempt to play the class card falls short...again.

I challenge you to examine the power, the money, behind the left. You will find that the filthy rich, such as George Soros, are Democrat supporters. Working people are voting GOP these days.

2. I remind you that "wealthy business person" is a figment of your vivid imagination. In Maine, most businesses employ far less than 100 employees and are made, generally, to struggle in this state. Most businesses struggle to survive from week to week. No one is handing the business owner anything. Not at city hall, not on Main Street at the DHHS. Business equals jobs, unless you work in the welfare department.

3. Art is in the eye of the beholder. That the state paid $60,000 for the vaunted mural is a shame. But that was then and now is now. I never applauded the removal of the Fortman mural. I would have left it up there, as a monument to 40 years of failed policies. The governor has many fish to fry, starting with getting the street roamers off the sidewalks and into jobs. We have 301,000 people on state medical aide. Getting that down to 100,000 would be very artful.

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It is instructive...

...that some on the left consider this a matter of mirth and amusement. Theft is wrong, or at least WAS wrong, the last time I looked.

For those on the left: Business includes ownership, management and staff. I know that business is a much maligned term in Maine leftist circles, but being "open for business" keeps people employed. Maybe that's a bad thing in today's Maine.

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What a load of crap

I have followed the Maine legislature for years and can remember our own Peggy Rotundo rising repeatedly to kill GOP bills and amendments with "I move to indefinitely postpone." It would go under the gavel without a shred of discussion or debate. Now, the shoe is on the other foot and the Democrats are expressing shock and dismay. What a bunch of clowns.

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Thanks GOP

those of us who actually pay for our health insurance appreciate the effort. Our current rates are obscene.

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These are all elected positions

Maybe this will serve as motivation for concerned citizens to run for the school committee and city council.

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Ever See the Craven-Wagner Show?

Of course that is not one-sided. LOL

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Reality

You have an interesting view of reality.

And what I am "for" is people taking responsibility for their own lives, assuming that they are able bodied and have their marbles. I am not "for" people living off the fat of the land.

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Let's Parse Dan's Comments

He invested $100,000 = Fact

He sold his investment 18 months later for $18,000,000 = Fact

He is a bright investor = Fact

He lost in a 3 way Democrat primary = Fact

He is planning to run again = speculation

One of the advantages of a newspaper running a comments section is to enable readers to fill in other readers with facts that are not included in the story. Reporter LaFlamme did his job...he reported on what went on in the room. I was pleased to learn that we have one of the best mayors in America in Larry, for example.

Terry had kind of dropped off my radar screen. It is great to see him back and in circulation again. I thought some readers would like to learn more about Terry's past and to see how he is really for the "little guy." Kind of like Rahm Emmanuel is for the "little guy."

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Terry is Quite a Guy

He invested $100,000 in Global Crossing. 18 months later, he sold his stock for $18 million. Kind of like Hillary's cattle futures deal. These people are extremely bright investors. Global later went bankrupt, after Terry sold his shares.

He then ran for Governor of Virginia. He came in 2nd in a three way primary for the Democrat nomination. The nominee lost to the dreaded GOP candidate by 18 points. Word has it he is running again.

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The Problem Started in 1948 when

someone got the bright idea to add the teachers to the Pension plan. They figured they could collect nice cash from the teachers and make it easier on the state employees. And off they went, undercollecting, all the while structuring some unbelievable retirement deals.

A little fact that we never hear about it that non-teacher municipal employee pensions are about 98 percent funded. That must really be ticking the teachers off.

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Bingo!

What Rex said!

Three barrier tolls (York, Hampden and Old Town) ought to do it.

We also have to watch out for million dollar "craft centers" at rest stops. The legislative committee needs to gather testimony as to how that happened in West Gardiner.

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Stop Borrowing and Cut Spending

Taxing the "rich" is not the answer. Giving Congress more revenue is like giving an alcoholic a case of Chivas. Let's stop borrowing and let's have meaningful cuts to spending. We have way too many spending "programs."

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Terry, What is the "Right Direction?"

Did King and Baldacci have the state going in the right direction? Have you ever seen the "Measures of Progress" report published by the Maine Development Foundation?

What is the right direction?

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Same Old Song

1. 66 million over payment. "We knew about that." - Brenda Harvey

2. 4.5 billion short UAL. "We've been working on that." - Emily Cain

The drumbeat continues.

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I Never Expected to Change Your Mind, Terry

Paul LePage has been Governor for a very short period of time. I note a poll today in this media outlet that has him at 43%. Not that I think that polls are accurate consistently. But that has him gaining 5 points in a short period of time.

I think he'll end up being a fine Governor. The Communications Department definitely needs work and I hope that he can improve his administration's performance in that area. I think he is tackling, head on, a number of critical problems. The UAL, the state's crushing debt, the debacle that is DHHS, environmental regulations that have swung too far out of balance for a few. As the Governor has stated, he'll let his record be the judge of his performance after 4 years.

The sad fact is that, if not addressed, the pension of 90,000 Mainers would grow and grow to consume mammoth chunks of the Maine budget, and would squeeze out many programs that would benefit the other 1,200,000 Mainers. I know this is difficult to accept because those 90,000 have been living for years in a world where the reality of the UAL has been kicked down the road. Those 90,000 ought to be directing their ire at Governors King and Baldacci, who did nothing while the problem grew out of control.

The Governor is not the silver tongued politician that King and Baldacci were...not by a long shot. But a sound manager and business man he is, and we need all the management we can muster at this time. Things are going downhill fast.

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Good Questions

1. I am not certain of this, but I believe Maine's governors are not part of the state employee pension system. I think they have a pension that is set by Maine statute. So, if LePage, Baldacci, King, and other surviving governors or spouses would care to "share the pain", then they could write a check for 2%. I doubt any one of them would do so, but you might write to them and suggest same.

2. I just did some figuring. I noticed that Governor LePage is proposing that the 10 furlough days be eliminated. If the state worker is paid for about 250 work days, the elimination of furlough days will add 4% more to their gross pay than they enjoyed under the Baldacci administration. Baldacci is a Democrat and LePage is a Republican, I pause to note. So, this would leave the state employee with 2% more than under Baldacci. As we know, it has been proven, beyond a doubt, that 4 minus 2 equals 2. Funny how we never hear about the 2% net increase.

3. I am also a fan of voluntary contributions to the Maine Treasury. Folks that want to see more taxes, or more programs, or preserved programs, should be encouraged to write a substantial check to support these programs. I'll bet not many of the 61 percent that voted for Mitchell or Cutler sent an extra $5,000 in to the Treasurer on last year's tax return. I'll be not many sent an extra buck in. That would be people, who want the pain, actually sharing the pain. I want less pain.

Have any other ideas?

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Then Pay 50...

I am sure the Maine State Treasurer would gladly accept a 50% payment from Mr. King.

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Ah, the BPA Proposal...Here are the facts

The liberals have their panties in a bunch over LePage's supposedly banning BPA in children's sippy cups, for example. The truth is that the industry has already stopped using BPA in such items. The law that LePage seeks to correct is a law passed by the Democrats gives the DEP the right to ban ANY consumer product used in Maine.

The law allows the DEP to ban all kinds of consumer products, including but not limited to: cell phones, computers, alcoholic beverages (yes, that’s right: wine, beer and liquor), refrigerators, roofing materials, insulation, gasoline, car seats, helmets, cleaning products used in hospitals to disinfect surfaces from deadly viruses, nicotine, soap, toothpaste, bullet-proof vests, fishing poles, protective eyewear, solar panels, bicycles, radios, fuel cells, fire hoses, carpets, mattresses, building materials, heart valves, prosthetic devices, plastic containers. The list goes on, effecting thousands of products that have nothing to do with children or children’s toys. This all according to Dana Connors in a recent column available locally.

That's the true story about the LePage proposal. The libs picked one product from a list of 1,750 chemicals and ran with it. That one product was already discontinued in the manufacturing process.

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LePage is His Own Man

You could expand the definition of "front man" to include any one of his supporters. Using your definition, LePage is a front man for me, personally, because I think that Maine was, and is , in serious need of help. Of course the thinking of the MHPC is much closer to LePage than, say, George Soros, MoveOn.org and/or the Maine Center for Economic Progress. I would imagine that many of the supporters of MHPC also supported Paul LePage's campaign. There is no news there.

Your cut and paste is just more of the same liberal tripe that we read on almost a daily basis. Libby Mitchell and Eliot Cutler were front people for a whole group of liberal causes, from unions to what knows, using your definition.

I am of the belief that Paul LePage has his own ideas as to what he'd like to do in the next four years. A poster insinuating that he'll profit from those actions are way off base.

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Far from it

I suggest that when you look at the actions of previous state administrations, you should also follow the money. Facts are inconvenient truth to liberals, who seem to love to play the "class card." It get's old.

So far, Governor LePage has been roundly trashed for addressing issues head on, such as the unfunded liability crisis and the state's crushing debt load. You are one of the premier trashmasters, and I will call you on it. I know you don't like defending "feelings", but we live in a world of facts AND feelings.

Governor LePage is not a "front" man for anyone. I know the man, and I can assure you he isn't doing this for his financial health. For you to imply otherwise is cheap talk...coming from a person who has no idea where the Governor is coming from or how he is motivated. So, if you feel trashed, how about backing up your assertions with facts?

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What a load of crap

Donald is lost in the Obama ozone. Most Maine businesses are small businesses, owned, operated and staffed by Maine residents. The evil corporations happened to be owned, in part, by evil Maine stockholders. Maybe Donald would be shocked to know that many of his leftist friends are participating in pension-retirement plans who happen to own these evil corporations he rails about this morning.

I would venture to guess that most of the evil corporations employ many Maine adults and relatively few teens. Busy denigrating the "ownership class", Donald can't see the forest for the trees.

The Koch brothers, the new enemy of the left, give peanuts in relation to George Soros, the currency manipulator who funds most of the liberal causes on the American scene. You'll never hear Terry trashing good ol' George. What is good for the goose, in Donald's world, is evidently not good for the gander in his fairy tale existence.

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I'd rather the Feds...

...spend as little as possible. Here is a little fact that has everything to do with just about everything: $14 trillion in accumulated debt. Has to do with rising commodity prices. Things like: Gas, oil, food, durable goods, soft goods.

I guess the guy on the street has a tough time understanding such concepts.

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Here we see the leftist mind at work

It makes perfect sense to a leftist and no sense to anyone with a basic understanding of reality. And economics.

If raising the minimum wage by a few cents is going to be so wonderful for the economy, why not raise the minimum wage to $20.00 an hour? It would be "double wonderful" then, no? Of course not.

The law of supply and demand will set the wages that any business will pay its workers, including the dreaded administrative/owning class. If people are not willing to work for a wage offered, then the much vilified "administrative/owning class" will have to increase the wage offer or shut down. If the dreaded "administrative/owning class" cannot sell enough product to afford the wages that the "undervalued" workers are willing to accept, then the company goes out of business. Pure and simple economics.

I would remind the collectivist that, without ownership, there is no business, and, consequently, no jobs...even undervalued entry level positions. Unless, of course, we return to the world of the Soviet Union and its planned economy. Some of us, who read history, know how that worked out.

The capitalist system requires workers of all levels. I worked for the Sun-Journal for three years and got paid 7 cents a paper per 6 deliveries per week. I am sure I was valued by Sun-Journal because I got 84 papers between the screen door and front door. I had a plan to change my station in life and worked my butt off to move up the chain of command in business. And it all worked out...with work. I didn't sit in a three decker and bitch about the inequities of the "administrative/ownership class." I didn't wait for the government to raise my wages.

The great thing about our system is that opportunity awaits us all. Just got to get off the dime and work for it.

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Agreed

Let's get out of Afghanistan now as well. OBL is taking a long dirt nap in Tora Bora and we are losing fine young Americans for the most God-forsaken pile of rocks on earth to what end? All on borrowed money.

This is some sort of record. I am in agreement with the Editorial Board 3 days in a row!

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"give"

The "the lowest among us" are going to "give" multi-millionaires more money. This is an instructive statement as to the world, as Dan sees it.

Dan sees people making above $20,000 as getting a tax break. The 8.5% kicks in at about $20,000. I am rich, in the world of Tron.

We are not giving multi-millionaires anything. The money was not theirs, the lowest among us, in the first place. It was the personal property of the multi-millionaires. Taxes are taken from them by the government. I don't hear the multi-millionaires howling about paying taxes. They can live anywhere they care to live. Live in Maine, pay the taxes.

Tron is just trying to deflect the real issue. The state is broke.

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Bravo

Well written and spot on. Thank you, Judy Meyer.

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What Don't They Understand About B-R-O-K-E ?

The national debt, which stood at "only" $5.7 trillion dollars around the turn of the century, or $55,000 per taxpayer, is now on track to surpass $22 trillion, $186,000 per taxpayer, by 2015. State debt has risen from $750 billion to $1.16 trillion since 2000. And, it's worth mentioning, those numbers do not include unfunded liabilities which, although brushed aside in the past, become ever more important with every retiring worker.

This year, 44 states are expected to register budget shortfalls. The total budget "gap" for fiscal year 2012 comes in around $125 billion. California owns the lion's share, with $25.4 billion to fill, more than seven times Wisconsin's shortfall. Illinois comes in next with a $15 billion shortfall, followed by Texas with $13.4 billion, New Jersey at $10.5 billion and New York at $9 billion.

But these numbers mean nothing. Not to the average man on the street, anyway. You could beat him over the head with 1s, 7s and 5s all day long and he'd scarcely feel a thing. He doesn't understand that, no matter how much he wants healthcare for everyone, turkeys in every oven and American-made muscle cars in every garage, there simply isn't any money left to pay for them.

The states are broke. Broke as in "B-R-O-K-E" broke.

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That's It?

$157,000 missing and the guy walks away?

What about the board? Where was the oversight?

Nice work, if you can get it.

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Margaret Thatcher put it

Margaret Thatcher put it best: "Socialism works great until you run out of other people's money." We have run out. When bad legislation, so prevalent in the last 40 years in Augusta, meets arithmetic, arithmetic will always win.

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4.3 billion is 4.3 billion

"The message is clear. In any collision between the laws of government and the laws of arithmetic, arithmetic wins." - Richard Fernandez

I wish you good luck and good fortune. If you win, you keep the gold plated benefits intact and the remaining taxpayers in Maine, a dwindling lot, will fork over handsomely. If you lose, you pay the price of the fiscal malpractice of governors and legislators past.

No sense going around in circles.

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Let's Look at Madame Gamache's Post

1. "As a retired teacher I have paid into the retirement system a substantial portion of my income for the last 40 years."

Note that public sector employees also pay a "substantial" portion of our income into Social Security. It is now over 7% including Medicare. What is the MSRS contribution rate currently?

2. "I was promised a retirement that I could live on."

There are no promises in life, especially when dealing with politicians. Many private sector employees think that they are "promised" Social Security but they are mistaken. Their Social Security is entirely dependent on the whims of the current and upcoming Congresses, because our contributions have been spent already on things like B-2 bombers, welfare for immigrants (legal and "undocumented"), skiing vacations in Vail for the First Lady, etc. Next to zip has been invested for us.

3. "They could also have invested a portion of their income to get one if they had chosen to."

We did. It is called a 401-K or IRA. Check the balances on a national level. Billions have been put away. We had to. No promises that Social Security will be there.

4. "using fuzzy bookkeeping is saying the system is broke and apparently I have been bamboozled."

Where were the Democrats for lo these 40 years as the retirement account grew wildly into a $4.5 billion unfunded situation? Why weren't they doing something about the UAL? There is nothing "fuzzy" about actuarial accounting. It is what it is. The money is either there or it is not there to pay the benefits. To accuse Governor LePage of obfuscation is unfortunate and terribly ignorant of the issue at hand.

5. "use that money in the general fund instead of for the retirement system."

Just where does Madame Gamache think that state funding for the pension system comes from? The Yum Yum tree up in Augusta? It comes from a check written on the General Fund. Not the Highway Fund. Not any other fund.

I suggest that Madame Gamache and Ms. Ward write a letter of thanks to Governor LePage for his efforts to address this serious fiscal issue that has been ignored by the Democrats for so long. Ward and Gamache will be OK in the end. It's the younger teachers and other state employees that are going to be left holding the short end of the stick when the money runs out. But that's OK...they have theirs and so what if the younger fellow educators are stiffed.

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The Party is Over, Crystal

The article fails to identify Ms. Ward as a long time kingpin in the local teacher's union and Democrat activist. Two facts conveniently left out of the story.

1. Instead of focusing her ire at Paul LePage, I would suggest Ms. Ward re-focus on Peggy Rotundo, darling of the unions, and ask her why the Democrats in Augusta did nothing to solve this problem during their 40 years in power under the Dome. Nothing. Nada. Now Lepage wades in to attempt fix (the unfixable) with modest changes, and the Sun-Journal and the Democrats start whining.

2. Many of my age group, who work in the private sector, have no hope of retiring until we are 70. We get no government provided health insurance, have no assurance that we will have any social security because the Congress has spent our social security contributions unlike those of Ms. Ward's that were invested for her benefit. So Ward's bleatings tend to be held in low regard by those of us in the private sector who are paying her bills.

3. The fact is that a 4.5 billion dollar shortfall is going to be almost impossible for a Maine that is losing it's more affluent older folks and many productive younger workers to fund. It is start to make the necessary financial adustments now or have the well run completely dry later.

But there are somethings nobody can really fix. And one of them are inexorable sums of positives and negatives. All of us wished we could make the totals read what we want. But we can’t. The day comes when the fires of financial hell cannot be held back.

The sooner Ms. Ward understands that, the better.

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Rex Badly Misses the Point

The LePage campaign was not "part of the Tea Party movement." The Tea Party, a very small band of conservatives, generally supported the LePage campaign.

The LePage campaign was supported by the growing number of Mainers who "get it." They get that, to leave Maine on the course set by the liberals, such as the Sun-Journal, Lewiston's Democrat legislators, the People's Republic of Portland and union hacks, was fiscal suicide.

Most LePage voters have absolutely no connection with a Tea Party. Most have never been to a Tea Party meeting. Most do not know what the Tea Party agenda is.

But they are very smart Mainers.

Maine is on course for fiscal disaster. Who is going to be around to pay for the staggering unfunded liability between now and 2028? Affluent Mainers are fleeing the state in droves. For proof, look at estate tax collections over the past 10 years.

Young Mainers of high income potential are leaving Maine in search of jobs. Most will never return.

We are left with public sector workers, layabouts (drive downtown Lewiston any day and you'll see what I mean), underpaid retail employees and seniors on social security. The professionals, who make the big money, are buying cheap Florida, Nevada and Arizona real estate like it is going out of style.

As much as the leftists hate Paul LePage, he understands that the end game is near for Maine, and he'll try to turn things around. His short brain to mouth pathway may just clobber any chance he had to be effective, and that may just be a tragic flaw. But the bubble has burst, and Maine's fond recollection of a free hand out for any number of its citizens (and non-citizens) is going the way of vaudeville and the drive-in movie theater.

It's time to face the music. Hope and Change has run out.

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I am in favor of photo ID's at the voting place

1. Showing a photo ID is common in our lives. Travel on aircraft, cashing a check, buying items at BJ's, on and on. Voting is one of our most important responsibilities and we certainly can extract a photo id from a wallet or purse without much an effort. There are more driver's licenses issued in Maine than there are voters.

2. Our voter registration lists, by my observation, are not up to date. There are numerous instances of voter records on file for people who have moved or have passed away. These are vulnerable to fraud.

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Memories of St. Patrick's

This story brought back to some great memories of St. Patrick's parish. I am pleased that the windows are being used in a new church. They are truly stunning windows.

I graduated from St. Patrick's School. My mom ran the 'hot lunch' program for years. I worked 4 years at Mt. Hope cutting grass for Bunny Mynahan. My children were baptized there. I've said the final goodbye to a number of family and friends at St. Pats. Memories of great joy and of profound sadness.

Time moves along and communities change. I am finally realizing that you can never, ever, go home again. But the memories are locked, safe and secure, in our minds. And those memories will one day be erased as we join the good people of St. Pat's on the other side.

Good luck, Lewiston, you are going to need it.

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A True Disaster in the Making

Someone once said a democracy only lasts as long as the citizenry realizes that it can pilfer the public treasury for its own purposes, or words to that effect.

For years, we voters have sent irresponsible people to represent us in Washington. It is a great job: wonderful pay, the best in free healthcare, perk upon perk. On top of it all, you get to spend OPM "Other People's Money". You don't have to pay for the spending...you can just borrow the money from yet another group of "Other People."

No sense governing or making the tough choices. Just throw money at the problem. Send OPM all over the world while you are at it.

Now, we are in debt to the tune of $14 TRILLION. This will not end well.

America, you have no one to blame but the voters. And the sad fact is that the folks that dug us into the hole are still digging in D.C.

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No Support from this Corner

Sorry, but this is not what I want to see the "LePage Administration" focusing on. Let's get to work on substantive fiscal issues, like putting the layabouts to work, instead of introducing "peesh pow pow's" into our communities.

If you want to see fireworks, go down on the bridge on July 4th and enjoy the free show. Guarantee that the sights you will see in the crowd will be well worth the trip.

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George Soros and Don Sussman

Dan... Check out how much Soros and Sussman spent in Maine in the last couple of years. It is not a one way street.

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Let's Parse Dan's Statement:

***lepage plans to reduce retiree's COLA benefits for life***
Where does LePage say that? Is that a fact or your prediction?

***Just because you're envious of what they've worked for ***

Hey, if they can convince the majority of Maine to go along with them, I say Bully for Them. My prediction is that the gravy train has come to a stop.

***doesn't mean you have a right to take it away from them***

Elected reps can do what they want to do

*** millionaire tax cuts that lepage proposes***

Last time I checked, Dan, the top marginal income tax rate kicked in at about $20,000 gross. Not exactly millionaire's wages, Dan. This tax cut will impact many working Mainers.

Retired state employees will continue to receive taxpayer-paid health insurance. This is a tremendous benefit, as health insurance continues to sky rocket as we pay for Obamacare. I think the increases that all other Mainers will be paying over the next few years will dwarf any reduced COLA that the state employees will have to endure.

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"Slight Reduction" ?

Can't tell from the editorial. Is the cut 7.9 / 8.5 or .06 of 8.5?

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We'll See the Numbers Friday

Dan Breton's comment puzzles me. If you are retired, you are by definition in the English language, not working at the job you retired from. You might work, if you are able to retire early enough, at another job(s) to supplement your retirement income. The retired state workers enjoy a rarity in America today, a defined benefit plan. They also enjoy another rarity, 100% gratis health insurance. Bully for them, I say.

So, how are the state employees getting "screwed." I'd enjoy getting retirement benefits that the state employees receive. Dan appears to be looking for any straw he can grasp at to denigrate our fine Governor.

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This is the most idiotic bill ever submitted

Servers make 1/2 of minimum wage. They depend on tips. We have enough people around here that are poor tippers. I know of one joint where they "pooled" tips and, after the money was divided, there was a percentage missing. Greedy bastards.

This Republican State Senator should be ashamed of himself. This a quick way to get bounced out of office after one term. If I lived in Hancock County, I'd vote against him even though it means getting a job-killing Democrat back into office.

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Anybody Working Out There?

While the lefties whined, the working people of this state remained at their work, supporting them.

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Front Page

Great exposure ... keep shining the spotlight on this organization. It's a money pump for the Democrat politicians.

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Rex...Please read the OPEGA Report

There is a list of donation after donation. The area around page 57 is particularly informative.

OPEGA is a legislative entity. As a citizen, I am already working with legislators to determine what their course of action is going to be. This is far from just a "posh Pike" moment in my opinion, but that's just me.

If this is just swept under the rug, we all lose as citizens. I hope the Sun-Journal drills into the report and talks to legislators, the LePage administration, Baldacci administration officials, MTA officials and prints their reactions to the OPEGA report. Bring them to task and explain these donations and justify how they relate to the operation of a toll road.

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So That's It, Sun-Journal?

If you have a few minutes, read the OPEGA report. It is located here:

http://www.maine.gov/legis/opega/GOC/GOC_meetings/Current_handouts/1-21-...

It is "Corrupt Government Defined."

Over a hundred thousand dollars worth of "gift cards", handed out by the Executive Director, with no documentation as to "who", "when" or "why." Our toll dollars at work.

Contributions, again hundreds of thousands, to hack friends. What the hell does Kit St. John's ultra-leftist Maine Center for Economic Policy have to do with the Maine Turnpike?

The donation list looks like a program for leftist causes in Maine.

I'll bet you the OPEGA report is small peanuts to some of the inside deals that the have taken place behind the scenes. Why do I think that the Democrats tapped the MTA time and time again for their pet projects? Choo choo trains, crafts at West Gardiner, on and on.

What we have here is a big cash cow with no internal regard for oversight, basic accounting controls and disregard for the mission of the turnpike, which is to get people from point A to point B, safely. The board was sound asleep at best, and complicit at worst.

I think the Editorial Board is letting the MTA off the hook lightly because some of their "faves" are involved and we wouldn't want to upset the leftist apple carts, would we, Rex?

We all have a responsibility to contact our legislators and see that they board and management of the MTA is removed...and quickly. It is time the citizenry stand up to this crap and end it.

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Ban this Troll, Patty Reaves

Why do we have to endure insult after insult? He is not in the least bit "cute" and detracts heavily from this site.

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I think the Governor is off

I think the Governor is off to a great start. He's made some great choices for his cabinet. He's got the leftists yakking and entering into a Lepage Derangement Syndrome... always fun to watch. He's cleaning up the slop the Democrats left...such as paying the Medicaid aging payables off. He'll be submitting a realistic supplemental and biennial budget for legislative consideration.

We are in for some very tough times in Maine, and I am so pleased that we have a skilled financial man in the Governor's office.

I am amazed (not really) that 'tron', cloaked in anonymity, is calling people out for "hiding." Who IS this person we know as 'tron?'

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Tron... Check Out This Link

It might give you a little insight into the perp's mental state:

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_663d67a8-0e8...

Perhaps you should do a little research before popping off.

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Could You Clarify That Comment?

What do you mean by "mostly now?"

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Sometimes, a Nut is Just a Nut

Comments attempting to blame Sarah Palin and others for this horrific event are just plain classless and sad.

There are plenty of mentally ill walking amongst us. Every now and then, they act out.

Can we have a modicum of respect for the victims of this deranged soul in Tucson?

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I am in favor of

this new policy and of the editorial board summarily replaced by the actual writer of the editorial. Let's make this a fair playing field.

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Voisine

You live in an alternate reality.

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Voisine

Voisine, you call Governor LePage an "unaccomplished buffoon", oui?

Let's see if your name calling stands up as "truthful."

1. He graduated from Lewiston High School.

2. He graduated from Husson College.

3. He is a graduate of the University of Maine's Masters in Business Administration.

4. He has enjoyed a very successful business career, culminating said career as General Manager of one of Maine's major retailers.

5. He was repeatedly elected as the Mayor of Waterville.

6. He has just been elected Governor of the State of Maine.

Those are the facts. Now, defend your statement that LePage is unaccomplished.

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Now, Please Dipense With the "Editorial Board" byline

As a poster who has been signing my posts for quite a while, I would suggest that the undefined "Editorial Board" now be eliminated and Sun-Journal opinion pieces now by signed by the person, or persons, authoring them.

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What Do Think the "Rich" do with Their Savings?

Stuff them in their bedsprings? They invest it.

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"The Stock Market" is a term meant to alarm

I am so tired of liberals playing the "class card." Like the "stock market" is a playground of the rich. The FACTS are that a broad cross-section of investors are in "the stock market." Pension funds, retail investors, day traders, trust departments, senior citizens, 401-K holders, on and on.

As opposed to the IOU's which Ronnie is apparently so fond of, even a 1% savings account would be better than a three ring binder full of Barney Frank's promise to pay. In fact, Bush had proposed opening up contributions to low risk instruments.

Liberals went crazy, knowing that a shift into contributing to your own cash asset would step on the employee/employer source of money for federal "programs", such as paying for all of the illegals running around the country.

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Social Security and Bush

What Bush wanted was to enable social security contributors the opportunity to actually put away some cash in their retirement accounts. Unions have pension funds. Government employees have pension funds. (They are heavily invested in the stock market, by the way)

We workers who are contributing at the rate of 6.2% of gross wages are sending money to Washington and the money is being spent on lots of things. It is not being saved for us. I wish people would understand what is happening to their social security contributions.

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A Rising Tide Floats All Boats

(Note: I write this as an artist who has been painting for 52 years and as one who has actually sold hundreds of paintings.)

A strong arts culture depends upon a strong economy for support. For years, I have struggled to get a message of the need for a strong business base in Maine, and in Lewiston-Auburn, specifically. The voters continue to elect anti-business legislators and send them to Augusta and Washington to do their damage.

We cannot continue to do this. It will be another two years before we can correct the problem, and we'll continue to lose the arts because it takes people with good paying, private sector jobs to support the arts.

Why is a strong business base so difficult for people to understand? Why does the Sun-Journal continue to support the wrong team for prosperity?

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It's "Schneider", Not "Snyder"

Appears the reporters at the Sun-Journal are going to have to learn some Republican names.

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Filled up half a basketball court

The crowd stretched all the way to half court. Heard that the "powers that be" were not at all happy that the Maine Dems could only get a few hundred people out. Had to be very telling to Libby and Clinton that the Mitchell campaign is in big trouble.

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Just Another "Dumb Frenchman", Right "MaineBob"?

Couldn't handle himself in front of all of those "smart people" and "balanced media types."

Paul, the dumb frenchman with a Masters in Business Administration followed up by dozens of years of successful business experience, has more smarts than you'd give him credit for. A fact dismissed by the liberal elite who salivate at their stereotype of the typical Maine Franco.

Paul is smarter than you give him credit for. He knows there are no votes in that den of liberalism and he knows that "this ain't bean bag" so he'll go where the votes are. As Paul is quoted this morning in the New York Times..."I'm not running for pope..."

He's doing fine. He'll be a great Governor.

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Smoke and Mirrors

Maine government spending increased by about $200 million last year. That is a fact. Mr. Henderson is trying to get us to believe that Simpson is fiscally responsible by using words that mean very little.

When the Democrats say they "cut the budget" by $800 million, they actually spent $800 million less than the were scheduled to spend in their wish list. In the end, they still spent $200 million more than they did the year prior.

Ms. Simpson remains just what she always was. A tax and spend liberal.

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LePage a "Bully?" Prove it, Sun-Journal

Paul LePage is an experienced, successful business man who leads one of Maine's most successful retailers. He is a practiced, successful executive of a small Maine city. He is a wonderful father and husband. I count him as one of my friends.

For nameless, leftist journalists to call him names without substantiation in a large Maine daily is typical, but sad. I really didn't expect any more from Rhodes or Myer, but it is still disgusting to see. Kind of like a drive by shooting. Shoot and run.

Paul LePage is going to win this and he will be a great Governor. The media jackals will be on his back starting on November 3rd, but Paul will be putting people first.

It is easy to call people names from the safety of your office. It is also spineless.

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Just a matter of time before this comes to L-A

and I will fight it with everything I've got.

Want to vote? Become a citizen. That this is even on the ballot in Portland is bizarre.

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Mike Michaud is Pure Deception in Action

1. He voted for Cap & Trade, that will add $100 to the average Mainer's monthly electric bill by current estimates. He tries to hide from that fact by talking about "coal".

2. He voted for the Stimulus, which will cost billions upon billions of interest. Since the stimulus was enacted with Mike's help, the unemployment of Americans has increased. We spent a trillion for what?

3. He will toe the line and vote to remove the "Bush Tax Cuts" because Nancy Pelosi will tell him to. Let's not give him a chance.

4. If he is a "conservative leaning", I am going to ride the winning horse in next year's Belmont Stakes.

5. Mike punched the clock for a full 6 hours in his last year at GNP, according to reports I've read. The reality is that he doesn't have much "fork lift time" over the last two decades because he spent it as the designated union rep in Augusta and Washington.

Go Jason!

Nice puff piece by the Lewiston Sun-Journal.

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Keeping the Votes Down on the Democrats Farm

Solid Dem votes are under assault from all sides. LePage is taking the working Dem who has had it with the lies of a "better day." Cutler is taking the votes of the "Elite" Dems who can't stand the Libster. Maybe some "star power" will sway the Bates students away from Cutler.

The desperate attempt to come in 2nd.

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tron...

I was making a lame attempt at a joke. Did you read the post I responded to?

As to fundraiser, you are spot on and I was very pleased to be able to help Mr. LePage out. Not too late to contribute, tron! :)

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Speeking of titles...

Ms. Mitchell has been both Speeker of the House and Senate President of late. I think she just might have had some influence on Maine's race for the bottom.

PS - We just arrived, according to Forbes magazine.

Enjoy this glorious Maine day!

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Out of state and out of district

Last time I looked, most of Michaud's cash originates from outside Maine and from the 1st district. That fact conveniently left out of the story.

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LePage Will Govern Like Christie? Fantastic!

Thank you, Sun-Journal, for printing this hit piece from Rooks. Readers all over central Maine will be pleased to know that Rooks is calling LePage the new Chris Christie. I am an admirer of Governor Christie and hope that Paul LePage lives up to Rooks' prediction.

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Agreed

Amazing to see him included. There are other declared write in candidates but they must have fallen short by some measure and were excluded.

As bizarre as this is, I sense the Jenkins will siphon some votes from Mitchell. A few.

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Totally agree

There is no way to keep a rational discussion going on this comment section. I have complained about one particular poster who is very crude and personal, to no avail. There are several involved, all anonymous, of course. The site is rendered useless except for providing a forum for crude and profane name-calling. Reflects very poorly on the Lewiston Sun-Journal.

We have many important issues to discuss, at all levels of government, and name calling is the accepted norm on this forum.

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30 days

It took about 30 days for the O'Brien story to surface in the Sun-Journal. LOL

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It will be an interesting read

America was built by people who valued winning. It is being ruined by people who are rolling over to the theory that coming in last is OK.

Europe is currently being over run by people who want to win, at all costs. They have sold themselves down the toilet of a 6th century cult that dominates every aspect of their sorry lives.

People get government they deserve.

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Complaint filed

crass, vulgar language

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Why the Editor's Note?

I think the "editor's note" was stunning. The letter writer stated fact. Apparently, the editor is going to step in and openly defend Democrats. You won't find the Sun-Journal editors sorting out and debunking the garbage that is thrown at the GOP on the editorial page.

This poor journalism, at best. Michaud really is not much more than a solid vote for Nancy Pelosi. His votes over the past 8 years will prove devastating to the our citizens. It is obvious that the Sun-Journal is on his team.

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Ginger

I have to go to work. A lot of people in Maine, including myself, are depending upon me to show up and give it 100% today, so I don't have time to address the crap in the post of yours. You should do some research before you spew.

I find it remarkable that we are talking about driving records when we are facing a one billion dollar budget hole, five billion in unfunded pensions, and twelve billion in state debt. When those chickens come home to roost, I can imagine the belly aching that will go on in this forum.

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Bizarre Comments By Brenda Harvey

The Augusta bureaucrats apparently don't understand a basic tenet of economics: "Cash flow is king." In the real world, far from Augusta, cash in has to exceed cash out if an organization, for profit or not-for-profit, is to continue to exist. The basic problem here is (1) that the state is signing people up for MaineCare;(2)they are showing up at CMMC to be treated;(3)and Brenda Harvey's department is not paying CMMC for the care rendered.

I don't give a hoot that "stimulus" has been used to bail out the state on large sums of previously owed, "seriously delinquent", MaineCare debt. The problem is that the practice continues to this date. They have "run up" another $56 million and are adding to that delinquent debt at the rate of $1 million a month AT CMMC ALONE. We won't get into what is being rung up at other providers statewide.

As a taxpayer of the state of Maine, I take vigorous exception to Baldacci, Libby Mitchell, Peggy Rotundo, Margaret Craven, Dick Wagner, Mike Carey, Mike Lajoie, Deb Simpson and all the other Democrats promising people free medical care in the name of MaineCare, accepting votes for same, and then refusing to pay for the care provided under their outrageously large (297,000 souls) social program and then stiffing the health care providers of this state. This is beyond disgusting.

We've got all of these New Mainers running around and we have got to take care of them as they have shown up for the freebies. Let's buck up, Democrats, and pay your bills. If you can't afford to pay your bills, change the damned programs.

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Keeping Mike Michaud in Washington Is Expensive

Here are some of the things Mike votes for:

1. Repealing Tax Cuts ... Even the lowest bracket will see a 50% increase!

2. Cap & Trade ... Will add $100 to your electrical bill --- monthly.

3. ObamaCare ... Pay for it now, hopefully get it in 2014. A mess beyond all comprehension.

Maine people deserve Mike Michaud if they can't figure this guy out.

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Peggy Rotundo is one of the biggest spenders up there

Perfect example of telling voters one thing in Lewiston and then going to Augusta and falling right in line with John Martin and Libby Mitchell. Give me a break!

All I've seen from Libby is negative ads, full of burning oil rigs and attacks on Paul LePage. That's not going to do it this year.

Cue: Tron

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No, the previous is my personal opinion

Tron:

You either cannot read English or insist on being untruthful. I am not on the LePage campaign committee. Understand?

I support LePage. That support is the result of a careful analysis where I arrived at the conclusion the Paul LePage will move the state in a different direction than the unsustainable course it is currently on.

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Like Exorbitant Health Insurance Premiums? Vote "D"

The Democrats in power in Augusta, including but not limited to Libby Mitchell, Peggy Rotundo, Deb Simpson, Margaret Craven, Dick Wagner, Mike Carey, Mike Lajoie, Larry Sirois, are the DIRECT cause of the high premiums we all pay (well, 3 out of 4 of us ---the other 1 out of 4 pay nothing, so we pick up their insurance as well through taxes).

It is about time that we vote out these people who show up and smile pretty at events all over town and then go up to Augusta and raise our health insurance premiums and taxes out of office. Let's start connecting the dots, folks!

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Earthquakes Predicted on November 2nd

All over the country.

Maine is so Democrat that it might take a couple of more years for things to "sink in" but the voters will finish the job in 2012.

The "Great Correction" continues, unabated.

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Did anyone say any thing about

the $1.00 per gallon tax on black liquor that Michaud and Pingree voted to assess on the paper industry (as part of ObamaCare)?

Didn't think so.

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Operation Change the Subject

No, for the umpteenth time, I am not part of the LePage for Governor Committee and the opinion expressed in my posting here is my own. I know this is a novel concept for you. You seem to regurgitate the talking points of the Democrat party and have very little of your own to add, other than insults aimed at other posters.

I am sure that Paul LePage pays taxes, all sorts of taxes, that outnumber your contributions to your liberal causes by thousands of hard earned dollars every year. Until you can buck up to the table and claim that you pay an equal amount to the various taxing authorities in Maine and in Florida, you have nothing to say. I don't know you, but you seem to be a person who always has plenty to say about good people trying to turn this town and state around from its march to economic oblivion. Plenty of hate and discontent, I will add.

The problem that you refer to (a homestead tax deduction taken on a home in Maine and Ann's ailing mother's home in Florida) has been identified and dealt with by the Lepage's.

I am interested in your take on the billion dollar problems identified in my post. Those are real issues facing all of us in Maine. How will Libby solve those issues? That is the subject of the LTTE and the subject of my comment.

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"How things work in Augusta" is why I am voting for Paul

Let's take a step back and look at "how things are working" in Augusta. Let's plug a diagnostic ycomputer into state government. Joe is making the case that we need Libby because she knows how things work in Augusta. Here is the readout on the computer:

1. The state is $12 billion in debt.

2. The retirement system is underfunded to the tune of nearly $5 billion with no hope of recovering.

3. The next budget is expected to be $1 billion underfunded to continue all of the programs that the lefties controlling the legislature (Libby - a leader of the lefties) want to keep offering. This means that three Mainers are paying for the fourth Mainer's health care, as well as their own health care.

4. Our welfare system is out of control with thousands of people streaming in to Maine for the free benefits.

5. Our private sector is shrinking while our public sector is expanding.

6. Our young people are being forced to leave Maine due to the few job opportunities here in Maine. Our true unemployment rate is much higher than the number the state reports to us monthly.

My computer gives me the following summary: Junk the Libby Mobile.

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We Need a Strong Advocate for the Taxpayer

I will be voting for Paul LePage. We need a Governor who will put the taxpayer first. We need a Governor who understands that the dreaded private sector creates the jobs that employ the people who will pay the taxes that fund the schools.

Maine's private sector is one of the smallest in the nation and getting progressively smaller. At some point, there will be no money remaining in the private sector to fund the broad expanse of activities we now find the public sector wanting to do.

If Crystal, former head of the local teachers union, really wanted strong schools, she'd be voting for Paul LePage on November 2nd. Crystal's one of the lucky ones...she retired early enough to get her pension. The younger teachers in the system now have no hope of enjoying the benefits that Crystal is currently enjoying because "the party of Libby" has not kept its promises and funded those promises, many unaffordable and unsustainable in the end.

We need someone to come in and clean things up. It won't be Libby, that I can assure you of with great certainty.

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Working their butts off

Yup

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Yep, We are All Knuckle Draggers, Lil

How condescending of you.

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Wide Stance...Where is your MBA from?

You're posting in anonymity on a blog in Lewiston, Maine, and you are calling a former President a simpleton?

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The Fat Cats are the Workers too

When are you going to get off this class warfare kick?

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When Do They Get to the Part About the Baldacci - Mitchell Re-Fi

You know, the part where they took short term money to pay for their reckless spending in one budget year and refinanced over years and years, and cost us millions in additional interest? Still waiting for that part of this sad, sad story.

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"xyz", let's show at least a modicum of class

Paul's given name is "Paul", not "puke". Your vitriol reflects badly upon your psuedonym.

As a political observer, I would say that a Jenkins write in would have a positive effect on the LePage candidacy. John was swept into office in Auburn by a Democrat led group, as I can recall. I would say that, on the whole, Jenkins would hurt the Mitchell effort, just as Cutler has hurt the Mitchell effort.

So, as a LePage supporter, I say "go, John, go!"

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Not True

The fund has special issue securities in it. They are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States. And are fully dependent on the willingness of this, and future, congresses to pay them. Let's hope they do.

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Ronnie, Learn your history

Bush took office in 2001. Most of those quotes were from the Clinton years, if my calendar is accurate. How did George Bush influence them?

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Or You Could Join the Military...

I enlisted in 1968. Try that insult out on someone else.

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The pols just can't keep their hands of pension money

1. Ms. Grant can't seem to come out and say it, but two facts missing from her letter have to do with Democrats:

a. Desperate for money to balance a huge revenue shortfall just a few years ago, Baldacci and friends on the Democrat side of the aisle refinanced the state employee pension fund at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars. Essentially, they took the route of adding hundreds of millions of interest on the backs of future taxpayers to gain a few bucks to plug an immediate budget shortfall.

b. Libby Mitchell was voting for all of this while she was in the legislature. It is indeed stunning that the teachers and state employee unions are supporting Libby after she has put their retirement income in jeopardy. Some people never learn, I guess.

2. Cheer up, Ms. Grant. At least your pension fund has a cash balance in it. We blokes who work in the private sector have nothing but IOU's in our Social Security account. Our contributions have been spent on a host of other things not related to our retirement (like food stamps, B-2 bombers, etc.) and we are left with a promise from politicians to be there when we need our social security check next month. We feel sorry for you, but at least you have something in the account. We have nothing.

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Let's examine Paris Patriot's Post Above...

1. At any one time, 1 million men and women are wearing the uniform while over 300 million Americans are not. Wearing the uniform is special, but using it to criticize others who have not is a very lame exercise. Bill Clinton was drafted and never dodged the draft. He simply failed to report of duty.

2. No, everyone at Fox News are draft dodgers. Off the top of my head, I can think of Oliver North and Greg Kelly for starters. So, you statement is a non-starter.

3. Who are the Tea Party leaders? I think the Tea Partiers themselves would like to know.

4. How do you know these mystery leaders "love war?" Anyone who knows war will probably tell you that it is disgusting experience for anyone connected with it.

5. The workers of this country pay taxes, generally. 58% of Americans work these days. 55% of Americans pay Federal income tax. We are about to get "screwed hard" by Obama and the Democrats when the repeal the Bush Tax Cuts this January 1st. That will be a real screwing to every taxpayer, from the richest to the not so rich.

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Comments on your : It's Not Surprising Post

1. Have a feeling that the average income for Maine Democrats exceeds the average income of Maine Republicans. I am not including out of state Democrat college voters in this mix. There are many very well-heeled Democrats in Maine. So, I am not sure the "Country Club" label fits any longer.

2. Name one lie that the Maine GOP has spread.

3. How do you know the few Tea Party participants in Maine are uneducated? How many do you know?

4. How many Tea Party participants are lazy? How many do you know?

I await your answers.

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Let Tron have his fun on his personal playground

We went over my relationship with the "LePage Campaign" yesterday and Tron is having a problem understanding 6th grade English.

Yes. I support Paul LePage. Yes. I have and will raise money for Paul's run. Yes, I am pleased that he is not using the taxpayer's money to fund his run for the Blaine House. Yes, Libby Mitchell is using the taxpayer's money to run. Yes, Paul LePage will be out spent by millions as the Professional Left uses millions in union money to try to beat him. Yes, Libby would be a disaster as Governor and yes, Tron might see his air hose stepped on.

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It is about time Maine has a free market advocacy group

The MHPC must be doing some damage to the "Professional Left" who now dominate Maine. The Professional Left has commissioned its major water carrier, the Lewiston Sun-Journal, to write a hit piece on the MHPC.

The reporter describes Kit St. John's group as "left leaning." This is the most misleading statement of the year in Maine politics. Anyone who knows Kit and the MCEP will snort at that statement. I suppose if you are way out there on the left, socialist cabals might appear to be only "left leaning."

And Piotti's statement, unchallenged by the cub reporter, that the MHPC "misrepresents the truth" is an example of water carrying in the extreme. How about some examples of these "misrepresentations?" Is printing a list of all state salaries "misrepresentation?" Is printing a list of all payments made to vendors to state government "misrepresentation?"

I hope that the Sun-Journal will do story about Chellie Pingree's association with J. Donald Sussman. Let's hear about J. Donald's "left leaning" activism and financial support history. It will never happen, of course. Or, how about Mike Michaud's lock step voting record with San Fran Nan Pelosi. Michaud's as "Blue Dog" as I will be likely to be invited to Kit St. John's summer place overlooking the Atlantic Ocean.

Tarren Bragdon is as classy and intelligent as they get. Piotti and St. John are no match for him. Expect more trashing by the Professional Left.

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Tron, I am not on Paul's Campaign Committee

Is that so hard to understand?

And no, I have no interest in working for Maine State Government. Paul is a good friend and we have had zero discussion about working for him if he wins. Right now, he is working hard to raise money to get elected and he is meeting thousands of people all over the state of Maine.
I like my job very much and my employer likes the work I do for them, so why change that winning combination?

I never ask my customers for contributions to Paul's campaign and any work I do for the campaign is when I am off call. Period.

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Tron, you are dreaming...

I am not on any "LePage for Governor Committee." I have no connection with the campaign other than to be a vocal supporter of Paul as well as having contributed to his campaign. I have organized 2 fundraisers for Paul, who is not running using the taxpayers money, as Libby is. I organized those fundraisers (very successful, I might add) along with a number of other people, all of whom are supporters of LePage.

Your allegation is totally unfounded. You had better check your facts before you post lest you will look like a blathering idiot. You can call the campaign office to verify all of this.

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The Emporer Has No Clothes

Extend and pretend...

The idea now is to finance more errors - while supporting the old ones - with money from the federal government. If the feds can pretend that everything is okay...by extending enough cash and credit...then everything will BE all right...

..until the federal government itself runs out of money. Then, the whole thing blows up.

In the meantime, who can say he's not having fun?

Print money and be damned.

It's for the children, right? Good for the schools.

What Bonnie left out of the story (or was edited out by our erstwhile editorial board) was the serious mess this is going to leave the next legislature and governor in when they try to balance the next budget. You see, this manna from heaven comes with strings attached. Obama has put any reduction in school spending "Off limits" in the next budget. So, it looks like the next legislature has to find $1 billion in spending cuts from the DHHS and the rest of state government operations without touching general purpose aid to education.

Oh well. If it were easy, anyone could do it.

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Suddenly, Libby Get's Religion...Right.

She's been kicking around Augusta, talking Augustan, since 1974 in one capacity or another. Spending "Other People's Money" with abandon. She, and her cronies, have underfunded the state employee and teacher retirement accounts to the tune of $4.4 billion and climbing. Libby and cabal owe Maine's health care providers well over $300 million in overdue MaineCare bills. We now have about 297,000 people on MaineCare...about 1 in 4 Mainers are "on the state."

We are supposed to believe that, at 70 years of age, that Libby is having an epiphany and that she is going for a more efficient government? Don't be foolish. You will be smoking that stuff they are inhaling down in Washington: "Hopium"

Vote for Paul LePage and give yourself a fighting chance for a future.

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You Missed My Point, Mr. WideStance

I'm willing to dispense with your juvenile vulgarity to help you understand my point.

My point is that this money, falling magically from Washington's Yum-Yum tree, is borrowed money. It is money that Obama, Pelosi and Michaud didn't have saved. It is borrowed. With interest due.

About 45% of Americans pay no Federal Income tax. This ratio is wonderful if you are a tax taker because you have no skin in the game. Who cares what Federal spending and borrowing is! Let the poor working schlumps pay!

A little over 55% of Americans work these days. Correlates nicely with the 45% figure cited above, no?

So, the recap: The kids should have been on the caravan. They'll be paying. And a large percentage of them will pay nothing, if the Wide Stance Democrats remain in control.

I'm not sure the term "weekend" means anything to you, but have a nice one anyway!

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They Should Have Taken the School Kids Along...

..in a train of yellow school buses. Those students that will pay taxes when they grow up (now running at about 50%) will be paying the Red Chinese for this borrowed money.

A complete article would have discussed who actually paid for this "federal" money. Isn't it wonderful that President Obama sent us all this money? Yipee!

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Libby Mitchell and Friends - Fiscal Malpractice

What you get when you vote for Mitchell, Craven, Rotundo and Simpson.

It is amazing that the State employee union is supporting the Democrats for additional terms after they s****d them "real good."

Laughable, really. Come on people, wake up!

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You Bet I Support Paul LePage, Tron

Four years of Libby Mitchell would mean fiscal disaster for Maine. She's been in Augusta since 1974 and look at the mess we are in. The piece about the $4.4 BILLION pension debacle is all about Libby and friends. The writer avoided blaming anyone but Democrats, but they have been in charge for most of the past 40 years. In fact, they re-financed the debt to make matters worse several years ago.

Those are the facts, Tron. Now, go back to arguing with your brother in law.

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Spending is pushed higher by Federal Revenue?

This editorial either illustrates an ignorance of basic public sector finance or is an attempt to mislead the readers in an effort to provide cover for the Democrats. Take your pick.

Spending is spending, whether the state funds an EBT (welfare) card or cuts a check to a paving contractor. Spending is "cash out."

Revenue, used to generate "cash in", really has little to do with spending other than to fund it.

If I walk up to the register at Wal-Mart and buy $100 worth of groceries, I need to fork over $100 to Wal-Mart. If I take $75 bucks out of my right hand pants pocket and $25 bucks out of my left hand pocket, I can't say that I only spent $75. That is the argument that the editorial seems to be attempting to make.

I would also note that the State spent hundreds of millions more that is now being carried as a payable to Maine's health care providers. I think the amount the Democrats owe (they control the spending) is now over $300,000,000 and is approaching $400,000,000. And this balance is on top of the hundreds of millions of dollars in "American Recovery" funds (some recovery we are having, heh?) they have applied to the outstanding balance in the account before the "Recovery" funds were sent down to Augusta by Obama and cabal. Let's not let that drop down the "memory hole" while carrying the legislature's water.

The real interesting stuff will play out next year. The legislature will need to stop the spending train created by the Democrats over the last 40 years. They are now an estimated $1 billion short and Baldacci just accepted $39 million in the teacher job preservation funds offered as a sacrifice to the teacher unions by Obama. There is a string attached to the $39 million. Baldacci locked educational spending at the same level as last year. So, now the legislature will have to find $1 billion without touching educational spending. Good luck. Looks like the taxpayers are going to have to fork over even more in taxes as the Great Recession deepens.

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If your phone don't ring...

you'll know it's me.

Throwing mud? Are you kidding? I want you to promote John to the hilt. It will only help my candidate! Go for it. Put all those "Facebook Specialist" skills to work.

Honor? Integrity? I don't know you, never heard of you until yesterday. I hope you do a great job siphoning all of those votes away from Libby and Cutler. I've been a friend of John for weeks on Facebook. I'm with you. I am one of the people that you need to convince John to run.

If you guys want to "mount" a campaign, have a blast. Just do a great job, will ya?

Can I be invited to the Inaugural Ball?

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Former Mayor Jenkins is a

Former Mayor Jenkins is a liberal and will pull very few votes from LePage in Lewiston-Auburn. LePage voters are fed up with incessant liberal spending and won't be fooled by Jenkins.

The Sun-Journal should closely examine the relationship between Jenkins and Benedict before writing editorials. They might be surprised.

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Didn't Know His Name

Right. Sure.
Believe that I have a bridge to sell you just upstream from the foootbridge.

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That's It...I'm Done

I really like the concept of a forum where Sun-Journal subscribers can comment on the news of the day. I am really interested in Lewiston-Auburn current events and find reading the comments an interesting complement to the stories published.

To be continually insulted by an unnamed poster is not what I log onto this board/forum to read. I carried the paper for 3 years starting 51 years ago and have read the Sun-Journal for probably 55 years now. While I am of an alternative political persuasion of the current Editorial staff, I enjoy reading the local news/sports daily because the Sun-Journal does provide excellent coverage of the local scene.

I am amazed that the Sun-Journal will let a "tron" sit there and insult paying customers all day and all night. His personal attacks go beyond the pale. It really cheapens the effort of the LSJ staff.

Thanks for the right of "free speech." And thanks for the freedom of deciding not to read and associate with people that I prefer not to.

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Oj,,,think you have the wrong Dan

Bilodeau is not Tron. Tron is a Breton.

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Let's Not Screw This Up

I say stay the course on Lake Auburn watershed protection. As was stated several times in the story: Keep the water clean in the first place.

There are plenty of other lakes and ponds in Maine to recreate on. Lake Auburn is a beautiful and nearly pristine natural asset that has been kept that way for over 100 years by our forefathers.

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They will take (plenty) of taxpayer dollars

Around $15 million, not counting TIFs.

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Single Engine Turbo Prop

I hope this project really gains traction. That is one sweet aircraft.

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There you go again, Tron

I'd like to know more about the transaction. This could be a great opportunity for Maine. Do you constantly have to bring up Republicans in every post? From the looks of the aircraft they are proposing to manufacture there, it looks like they will have a very nice product to sell.

I am amazed that Patty lets you get away with your tripe and constant insults. It demeans the board.

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Now, Give us the details

It will be interesting to unwrap this deal.

1. When will 300 employee level be reached?
2. What tax incentives were offered?
3. Are the taxpayers making an investment in this venture?
4. Are there any "outs" built into the lease?
5. What will the $100 million investment purchase for Kestrel?
6. What amount of the $100 million will be paid to Maine suppliers?

On the surface, a nice start to the revitalization.

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How Can I Delete a Post?

I'd be happy to do so. I hit save and nothing happened this morning.

This site has so many programs opening and closing in the background. Slowest site I visit.

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Mr. Labranche ... relax

You are OK. There is probably enough money built up in MSRS to keep your checks coming for a while longer. It is the current employees that have to worry because there is no way that the people of Maine can afford the 6 or 7 billion that it will take to catch up.

You can lay this economic disaster right at the feet of the smiling Governor and legislators you seem beaming back at you on the pages of this newspaper. They made promises to get and stay in power that they knew couldn't be kept. I am sure they have the "we'll enjoy our time here in Augusta and let those that follow us clean up the mess we've caused" attitude. Poor ol' Libby is being left standing there, holding the bag. Interesting to note that the unions are going to pour just short of $2 million to get her elected this fall. The unions are being played for saps.

As far as us poor private sector chumps, we are s*****d. Olympia, Susan, Mike and Chellie and those that went before them in Washington spent all of the cash that we have been depositing into Social Security for the past 40 or 50 years. They wrote us IOU's. That's all that is left in Al Gore's "Social Security Lock Box" these days. Strips of paper. No cash. No investments. Nothing at all but strips of paper.

We are all going down the drain together. In case you missed it, the gang above just voted to extend unemployment benefits by borrowing yet more money from the Red Chinese. At some point, the teller window is going to close and we are going to hit the wall. I'd like to hear from the liberal readers how we are going to get out of this. I see no way other than depression and default and starting over.

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Mr. Labranche ... relax

You are OK. There is probably enough money built up in MSRS to keep your checks coming for a while longer. It is the current employees that have to worry because there is no way that the people of Maine can afford the 6 or 7 billion that it will take to catch up.

You can lay this economic disaster right at the feet of the smiling Governor and legislators you seem beaming back at you on the pages of this newspaper. They made promises to get and stay in power that they knew couldn't be kept. I am sure they have the "we'll enjoy our time here in Augusta and let those that follow us clean up the mess we've caused" attitude. Poor ol' Libby is being left standing there, holding the bag. Interesting to note that the unions are going to pour just short of $2 million to get her elected this fall. The unions are being played for saps.

As far as us poor private sector chumps, we are s*****d. Olympia, Susan, Mike and Chellie and those that went before them in Washington spent all of the cash that we have been depositing into Social Security for the past 40 or 50 years. They wrote us IOU's. That's all that is left in Al Gore's "Social Security Lock Box" these days. Strips of paper. No cash. No investments. Nothing at all but strips of paper.

We are all going down the drain together. In case you missed it, the gang above just voted to extend unemployment benefits by borrowing yet more money from the Red Chinese. At some point, the teller window is going to close and we are going to hit the wall. I'd like to hear from the liberal readers how we are going to get out of this. I see no way other than depression and default and starting over.

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Mr. Labranche ... relax

You are OK. There is probably enough money built up in MSRS to keep your checks coming for a while longer. It is the current employees that have to worry because there is no way that the people of Maine can afford the 6 or 7 billion that it will take to catch up.

You can lay this economic disaster right at the feet of the smiling Governor and legislators you seem beaming back at you on the pages of this newspaper. They made promises to get and stay in power that they knew couldn't be kept. I am sure they have the "we'll enjoy our time here in Augusta and let those that follow us clean up the mess we've caused" attitude. Poor ol' Libby is being left standing there, holding the bag. Interesting to note that the unions are going to pour just short of $2 million to get her elected this fall. The unions are being played for saps.

As far as us poor private sector chumps, we are s*****d. Olympia, Susan, Mike and Chellie and those that went before them in Washington spent all of the cash that we have been depositing into Social Security for the past 40 or 50 years. They wrote us IOU's. That's all that is left in Al Gore's "Social Security Lock Box" these days. Strips of paper. No cash. No investments. Nothing at all but strips of paper.

We are all going down the drain together. In case you missed it, the gang above just voted to extend unemployment benefits by borrowing yet more money from the Red Chinese. At some point, the teller window is going to close and we are going to hit the wall. I'd like to hear from the liberal readers how we are going to get out of this. I see no way other than depression and default and starting over.

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Looking for something bad

What are you talking about? I was enjoying the account of the First Family's day, and, out of the blue comes the politics from the AP writer. Be careful who you accuse of "looking for something bad." I ask you... What does a comparison of Bush vacation days vs. Obama vacation days add to a story about a day in Bar Harbor?

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Spoon Feeding The Great Unwashed

I was enjoying the story of the Obama family's great vacation day in Bar Harbor. Suddenly, the following pops up in the story:

"Obama's vacation time as president has been relatively spare. He's spent some or all of just 65 days on vacation, including at Camp David, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS News reporter the White House recognizes for his record-keeping. By contrast, George W. Bush's total after 18 months in office was 120 vacation days."

While Obama was kickin' back on MDI, the AP writer and the Lewiston Sun-Journal was hard at work, feeding the Bush Derangement Syndrome habit on yet another day.

I've had a whole 10 days off in the last 18 months. Maybe someone should write a story about that? /snark

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Tron must be sleeping...or at the beach...or in Bar Harbor

It's summer. Let the Obamas have a nice weekend in a beautiful part of Maine.

A little golf. Cigars. Lobster. Shelling. Views from Cadillac. Thunder Hole. The Jordan Pond House.

I wonder what the poor people are doing. To the victors, go the spoils.

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Clarification to my post above

The "they" I refer to is Councilors Herrick and Farrell. I just re-read my post, dashed off in a hurry, and could see that readers might think that I am talking about the APD. I am not talking about the APD, but rather the council duo.

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You Are a Joke Tron

Hey Tron...

I'll see you at the starting line on October 2nd. Let's see how much you have raised by then and I'll be waiting for you at the finish line.

The "Joker",

Bob

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Flabbergasted

I am a citizen of Auburn, a cancer survivor, ran in the inaugural Dempsey Challenge and plan to run again in October. Thousands of us will be running, walking and biking to raise money for victims of cancer. I was a lucky one. The cancer in my prostate was caught early and removed so that I am alive today to run again.

As I run, the names of people I know who have passed due to cancer are written on the inside of my racing bib along with the names of other cancer victims provided me by my donor list. It is an intensely personal 3.1 miles, I can attest. There was more than sweat pouring from my head last year.

I am the first one to question the spending of other people's money. And $40 bucks an hour could easily be donated, it would seem, by Auburn's finest. I collected donations from Maine to Colorado last year so you'd think that Auburn's finest could step up to the plate and help out. Has anyone asked them to do so.

After learning about the unprofessional, short sighted, ignorant and selfish position taken by the balking councilors, if I were one of Auburn's finest, I would tell them to keep their money and volunteer to do it as a donation.

Silly me. Not everyone is interested in helping cancer patients and their families. I hope they wear this badge proudly. I pay over $4,000 a year in property taxes now. I am willing to throw in a few cents to help Farrell and Herrick get through this.

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Correct that: 26,000 men died

21,000 wounded but not killed.

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11,000 Men

The enormity of the sacrifice of Pop Gilbert's generation is stunning. The B-17 raids were flown by the 8th Air Force. The 8th Air Force lost 11,000 men in the Second World War. In a little more than 2 years.

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Hey, Let em have a little fun

The reporter went to great lengths to reassure us that everything will be all right! She didn't tell us if there were American flags flying but who cares? Larry was being Larry. I am sure the New Mainers enjoyed his shuckin and jivin. Looks like a good time was had by all.

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Another Trillion or So Down the Drain...

Senator Craven gives us a ride through liberal hell. As a devoted Euro-Socialist, Craven has never met a tax that she didn't vote for.

The "national health care" bill, better known as "Obama Care" to the working people who are going to have to pay for it, will be a disaster for the United States. Look at Craven's record in Augusta to get a glimpse of what Obama Care will bring to the rest of the 56 states.

1. Dirigo Health. A financial disaster of epic proportions for Maine. Only the most strident Democrat cheerleaders think that it is a success. It has cost hundreds of millions of dollars to insure a small percentage of Maine's uninsured.

2. Craven's big unpaid bill. The Democrats are great at dreaming up "programs", but are woeful stiffs when they are asked to pay for them. Craven and her Democrat friends owe Maine's health care providers HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars in Maine Care reimbursements. They couldn't even pay a health care insurance premium due at the end of June. They had to push it into July for the new fiscal year.

Why should we believe anything this woman writes?

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Ethan is part of "Operation Change the Subject"

Paul LePage has stated on several occasions that he will be focused on fiscal issues while Governor. The Democrats have created a monster of a financial problem and it will need every ounce of Paul's considerable talents to dig Maine out of the deep, Democrat dug, chasm that we find ourselves in. While issues such as the one you raised might be high on the Democrat agenda, it isn't on Paul's. He focused on the work in front of him.

Democrats will try to confuse the Maine voters by talking social issues, while LePage will be talking financial issues. I submit that most Maine private (and public!) sector employees don't have the time to talk about social issues. We are worried about things like paying bills and keeping their jobs. 1 in 7 Maine mortgages are in foreclosure and/or seriously delinquent.

Gay marriage is so off the radar screen for most people. Libby Mitchell might be talking about it, but I submit that food on the table and a roof over your head is more important. Paul LePage connects with the people who are paying the bills for everyone else.

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XYZ

Paul LePage has stated on several occasions that he will be focused on fiscal issues while Governor. The Democrats have created a monster of a financial problem and it will need every ounce of Paul's considerable talents to dig Maine out of the deep, Democrat dug, chasm that we find ourselves in.

While issues such as the one you raised might be high on the Democrat agenda, it isn't on Paul's. He focused on the work in front of him.

Democrats will try to confuse the Maine voters by talking social issues, while LePage will be talking financial issues. I submit that most Maine private sector employees don't have the time to talk about social issues. They are worried about things like paying bills and keeping their jobs.

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So Predictable...

is Mark. Same tired liberal talking points. Let's look at them.

1. The oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico is "Bush's fault." To a liberal, everything is "Bush's fault." Maybe Bush designed the drilling platform BP used? Maybe he was working on the rig when the methane bubbled up and ignited?

2. Paul LePage is focused on bringing Maine's runaway state government under control. In case Mark missed it, the Democrat majority in Augusta owes Maine's medical providers hundreds of millions of dollars. They have an unfunded liability to Maine's teachers, state employees, police and fire retirees of at least $6.5 BILLION in benefits owed. The Rainy Day Fund has been drained to empty. He has stated that social issues are not on his agenda.

The Democrat party loses badly when financial issues come up. They are trying to avoid talking about the sorry financial shape they have created (with Libby Mitchell at the forefront since 1974) and "Change The Subject" to "social issues." Not going to work this time, Mark.

3. Paul LePage an extremist? Hardly. Paul is on of 18 siblings. He worked hard to survive his childhood. He worked hard to get through high school and college. He has an MBA. He has had a very successful business career. He has helped Mardens grow from six to twelve stores. What does Mark see about Mardens that is "extreme?" He has been elected Mayor of Waterville three times. Are the majority of Waterville voters "extreme."

The real extreme is this race is the extreme leftist politics of Libby Mitchell. She never met a tax she didn't vote for. She just tried to foist 102 new taxes on Mainers and was rejected 2:1 at the ballot box.

The rules have changed, Mark. Maine voters are not as gullible as in the past. They have the Democrats figured out. Maine's Democrat Party of today isn't the party that Harry Truman and John Kennedy represented.

Look forward to your next attempt, Mark. We are not buying it anymore.

Paul LePage. Native son of Lewiston. Our next Governor!

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Broke, Folks

This is money neither the federal government nor the state government have. It's all borrowed. Collins and friends are spending us into oblivion.

The amount of unfunded liabilities that the federal government and state government are carrying are stunning. Everyone has their head firmly stuck in the ground, ignoring the 900 pound gorilla in the living room.

And our elected representatives just continue to bury us. And the media doesn't care and are clueless.

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Two Faced

When you are in the military, you don't get to publicly diss the civilian leadership. Elections have consequences, and Obama was elected President, so we are stuck with him. Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like a patriot. Nevertheless, he IS Commander in Chief and the military has to live with the results of the election.

Obama ate a large serving of crow yesterday. The crow dinner went zinging right over the heads of the people who were duped into electing Obama. Obama, the same guy who was going to pay their mortgage. Obama, and that weasel Joe Biden, brutalized General Petraeus on the floor of the United States Senate and roundly criticized his surge plans for Iraq. Petraeus was right and Obama-Biden were wrong on the surge.

All that being said, how long are we going to fight over a God-forsaken pile of rocks? Obama has been taking a dirt nap for years, I am convinced, having taken a 2500 pounder on his head at Tora Bora almost a decade ago.

The wars will end when the citizens are tired of paying for them, I suppose.

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Who Did McChrystal Report To?

Directly to Obama?

If not, why did Obama fire him? For show? From the looks of tron's post, the libs bought the act.

a CHAIN OF COMMAND works both ways.

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Tom is Top Notch

I have known Tom for years and can tell you that he is a top notch fellow. Great choice for the job.

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Image of the Valentines

That photo should be on the front page, top of fold. Congratulations, Jose, on a job well done. The body language of Mrs. Valentine says it all. She is living a dream moment.

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Months of Lies and Distortions

The Republican Platform calls for none of that. Don't lie to us. It reflects very badly on you.

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Maine Spends $7 Billion a Year

I don't want tax reform. I want tax relief.

We are soon to find out how to cut spending. The so-called "Structural Gap" is expected to reach $1 billion next year. As tron wrote, the budget must be balanced.

Things are going to have to change.

Augusta is out of Other People's Money. Augusta has over promised and under delivered.

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Agreed

That's why we are in the early stages of the Great Correction.

Still a lot of labeling going on. I wonder when the Sun-Journal will label the Democrats as liberal.

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Free Money

There it is...right there. "Free Money". The essence of Maine liberal thinking. All money that the government gives you comes from the pockets of someone else. It is OPM. Other people's money.

Other points for the Sun-Journal editorial board to consider:

1. The average Maine taxpayer (700,000 returns filed) owes over $17,000 in debt and unfunded liabilities to the Maine government. Your not telling the whole story when you limit the calculation to GO borrowing.

2. The annual Maine budget is well over $7 billion. You are not telling the whole story when you limit your numbers to the General Fund.

3. It is easy to reduce staff numbers...and then outsource the work. Number of state employees is an irrelevant number. Look at total spending.

4. Albrecht's free money can be leveraged without borrowing it. Appropriate it.

Our state and national debt will sink us in the end. We borrow at great risk. You are recommending a very dangerous course for our governments.

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Tron, check your numbers...you are wrong

I just looked at the Office of Fiscal and Program Review's website.

The General Fund budget for FY 2009 was $2,854,763,148. For FY 2010, it is $2,864,581,668. That is an INCREASE of $10.8 million and change. So, where is the "cut?"

I think you are confusing a "cut" with the structural gap in the budget. The structural gap is a projection of anticipated revenues and anticipated expenditures for the next Fiscal Year. The actual spending budget is as presented above.

You have to stop drinking the Democrats Kool-Aid.

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What the editorial writer didn't tell us...

is that about 4,500 Mainers who make in excess of $350,000 a year will see over $40 million of the tax "relief" while the remaining 700,000 of us will split the balance of the "relief" (around $20 million). Those are the facts, the inconvenient truth, to quote a great American.

The writer also completely ignores the negative impacts on taxpayers in years three and beyond.

The writer doesn't talk about the ad being run by the pro-tax liberals that says income taxes will go up 30% if the question passes (Yes prevails). That is pure poppycock and the Sun-Journal knows it. 8.5% will still be 8.5%.

I would also note (see my comment on the Metzler article on bonds) that, while the Sun-Journal is quick to label the Maine Heritage Policy Center as "conservative", it fails to label the Maine Center for Economic Policy as "liberal" which it most assuredly is. How about equal labeling down there in the Sun-Journal newsroom?

I am beginning to think that the Sun-Journal has an agenda.

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What the reporter didn't tell you...

is that the taxpayers of the state of Maine are "on the hook" for about 12 billion in debt already. The Mainers, who do pay taxes, are looking at staggering obligations that must be paid in the years coming up. For example, the pension and healthcare benefit accounts are underfunded to the tune of $6.5 billion (that's a 'b') and this is due and payable public sector employees.

Writing the story like Metzler has is like filling out a personal financial statement and disclosing that you owe Macy's $200 but failing to mention that you owe a mortgage balance, a car balance, a credit card balance and a boat loan balance. She's only covering a part of the story.

Also, note that Metzler took pains to label the Maine Heritage Policy Center as "conservative." Why not label the others mentioned in the story? Is Chip a liberal? How about Rachel? And President Knapp? How about Dave Lemoine? How about equal labeling?

I happen to support some of the projects that would be funded by the new borrowing. I would have preferred that the legislature fund them out of current appropriations rather than ask us to pay interest on the work over time. But it's easy to borrow OPM ("Other People's Money").

Just thought I'd point those items out to the readers.

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What the reporter left out

1. Newspapers are not included in the list of new taxable items.

2. There are actually 102 new items added to the taxable item list.

3. 4,500 Mainers, earning over $350,000, will get $42 million of the $60 million in tax relief.

4. The other 700,000 filers will share about $18 million in relief.

5. 300,000 Mainers don't file, and they will not get the credit, and they will pay the new sales and meal taxes.

6. Lower income Mainers, now paying 2 and 4% rates, will pay 6% rates.

7, The impacts after years one and two will be far more expensive for Mainers.

This is one of the most poorly written and poorly researched stories I've ever read. Unless, of course, the paper had an agenda.

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How sad, Tron

The commenter writes an opinion, and is slapped down by an insult. You really contribute mightily to this newspaper's product.

Perhaps you might tell us:

1. Where is your college degree from? What was your major? How about your GPA?

2. And your advanced degree? In what? From where?

3. How about your career? Notable accomplishments? Organizations?

Give us all the benefit of hearing how incredibly talented you are, Tron. You constantly castigate others here.

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Broken Leg in Two Places

Sgt. Ullrich suffered a broken leg in the incident. Not Bates College's finest hour.

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Rooks Doesn't Have the Spine to Make a Call

but rather would rely on his vivid imagination of a Euro Socialist utopia that we see in his manifesto, the Maine Democrat Platform, so rich in "programs" and heavily reliant on Other People's Money ("OPM").

The problem for Rooks and his Democrat friends in Augusta is that they have run out of OPM, They've run out in Washington DC and they've run out in Brussels. Thanks to journalists such as Rooks and the mother ships such as the Sun-Journal, many Mainers and most Americans are like the Germans were in 1943. They don't realize that they have already lost.

Life is going to get very difficult for all of us before it gets any better. The line up of hacks running for the Democrat nomination for governor of Maine would be overwhelmed by the events of the next four years. Mills, who votes often with Democrats, and Abbott, who worked for years for the very confused Susan Collins, won't fare any better.

When national governments run out of OPM, they either have to default or print more money. The German people recall the Wiemar Republic after WWI and they are having kittens over the Obama supported $1 Trillion dollar bailout of the Southern Europeans. We'll likely have a period of deflation as the American private sector de-leverages followed by a period of high inflation as the public sector, urged on by people like Rooks, floods the economy with dollars created out of thin air.

Matt's point, I believe, is that Democrats rely on people voting their wallets. People in poverty, and people making money caring for people in poverty. The hacks in charge, from Baldacci to Pingree to Michaud all the way down the line, are all about "programs" that do nothing to get people productively employed.

Take a drive around downtown Lewiston any sunny afternoon. You'll see people out sunning themselves. smoking and drinking beer and talking on their state supplied cell phones. They have no intention of going to work. Or even looking for work. They make up "Rooks Maine."

They have no idea they've already lost.

PS...I'll be voting for Paul LePage. Maybe Rooks can call Paul and ask Paul how it feels to live in true poverty. Maybe Rooks can't.

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A heck of a nice fellow...

is Mike Michaud, but he really needs to be replaced with some one with some fiscal common sense.

For 22 years, Mike was an active participant in the destruction of the Maine jobs environment as a member of the Maine legislature. The unemployment (U3) in Millinocket, his home, is over 15%. We can only guess what the U6 ("we've given up looking and we are living on the state now") number is. They kept voting him into office and he did little to help them.

Michaud is now wreaking havoc in Washington. We are now almost buried in debt, about $12 trillion, and Michaud's icon, Obama, will be digging us deeper by the day. We are spending money, mostly on loan from Red China, at the rate of $6 billion a day. Everytime you see Michaud's office announce another "grant" coming to Maine, please remember that it is money we are borrowing from overseas. Michaud has run out of OPM from stateside and is buying votes with Chinese OPM (better known as "other people's money").

Id like to see the Sun-Journal do an investigative piece on "Spending OPM, the Mike Michaud Story."

Vote him out in November.

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SSDD, I Disagree

The paper doesn't "suck." I think that is an uncalled for "cheap shot" and provides an instructive view into your mind, as writing tends to provide.

The Sun-Journal is a successful private enterprise offering a product that serves a purpose for both readers and adverstisers. When is fails to provide that service profitably, it will cease operations. Running a profitable business is likely number one on the list of priorities for the Costello family. As it should be.

The ideology seems to come from Mr. Rhoades and Ms. Meyer. That's their job at the paper. While I don't always agree with the editorial positions of the newspaper and the European Socialist agenda they support, I enjoy reading and analyzing their slant on the news of the world, nation, state and local area. I do frequent other sites to get the other side of the coin on a daily basis.

Androscoggin County is one of the most conservative areas of the state and the Sun-Journal serves the county, not just the liberal nest that is Lewiston. I don't think that Androscoggin, Oxford and Franklin counties can be accurately characterized as "heavily Democratic." It underserves the conservative population if it does anything.

A bright spot of recent note is the investigative reporting offered by Mr. Christie. That is a no holds barred series that I have been waiting to read for many years.

And no, I am no shill of the Costellos et al. An employee recently told me that I am the most reviled person in the newsroom so I know I am no favorite. But, I tend to be factual and I prefer my principles over feelings so revered by the liberals who walk amongst us.

So, let's be fair in criticizing a venerable institution that is trying to put out a good product every day. We should respect all viewpoints and make up our own minds as to what is poppycock and what isn't.

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Here's What the Platform Calls For

While I am not in support to all of it, there is much I do agree with.  Compare it to the Democrat platform when it is adopted shortly...

The constitutions are a framework for legislation

Support for state sovereignty (for example, maintain the electoral college)

Support for national sovereignty (we just shipped billions to bail out Greece as 20% of the IMF)

Supports educated voters (Obama's gonna pay my mortgage!)

Honest elections (see Chicago style politics, college voting without a cross check in home towns, underpass is a legal residence, etc,)

Hold elected officials to high standards

Assert 10th amendment rights

Assert 2nd amendment rights

Read the bill legislation

Against earmarks

Against pork

Against riders

Opposes so-called Fairness Doctrine

Opposes restrictions on free speech (current attempts to control internet as a public utility)

Opposes card check

Prohibit public funding of advocacy groups ( ACORN )

Eliminate motor voter

Opposes non-citizen voting (Portland for example and soon to come in Lewiston)

Oppose treaties that compromise national sovereignty

Promote the assimilation of immigrants (not happening now)

Rescind "sanctuary state" status in Maine

No amnesty for illegals

No benefits for illegals

Deport illegals

12 year term limits (return to a citizen legislature)

No pensions for Senators and Congressional reps

Congress contributes to social security

Congress cant vote pay raises for themselves

Congress on same health care plan as the citizenry

Congress not immune to laws applying to rest of citizenry

Freedom of religion

Marriage is between a man and a woman

Parents make decisions about children

Promotes the sanctity of life for unborn

Fight Islam to win

Seal borders

Follow principles of Austrian economics ( as opposed to Keynesian economics)

Cut government spending

Balance the budget

Retire debt

Audit the Fed

Promote honest reporting of economic stats (a major problem today)

Apply generally accepted accounting principles to government reporting

Restore welfare reform lost with stimulus legislation

Defeat cap & trade (which will cost Maine dearly)

No more stimulus spending

Remove obstacles to energy development such as nuclear

Zero base budget all programs

Stop transfer from those with means to those with needs (Earned Income Tax Credit for example)

Health care is a service, not a right

Help those who need help

Promotes the concept that a government take over of health care is detrimental

Allow citizens to purchase healthcare across state lines

Institute tort reform (as in Texas)

Eliminate Dirigo Health

Return schools to local control (see NH )

Speak out against One World Government (see EU to understand the problems with movement to One World)

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All Good, But What About Fannie and Freddie?

Since some consumers need protection from themselves and have a difficult time reading the notes they are about to sign that obligate them to pay the obscene interest and fees for their latest "want" item, our legislators need to step in to help them stay out of trouble.

It is interesting that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the bankrupt GSE's that are the major cause (under the careful protection of Democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dodd) of the destruction of our economy and the wiping out of trillions of dollars of wealth from American households, are not mentioned in the "financial reform" package.

The bonuses paid by Fannie  to Democrat insiders, like Franklin Raines ($90 million) and Jamie Gorelick ($26 million in 4 years) covered the period of time when the company supported the growth of the huge subprime and ALT-A mortgage lending bubble that was the root of the financial melt down we know today.

Why are the Democrats looking the other way?

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Wonderful work, Bob Roy Jr.

Bob gave me a tour of the station last summer.  It is spectacular.  The ceiling restoration is a thing of beauty.

This is a fine building looking for a best use.  Plenty of parking around it and plenty of room.  Let's hope that the right business calls it "home" soon.

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Not Smart and Certainly Illegal

When using a public facility, one must remember that it is the taxpayer's property and it should be left as it is found.  I condemn the Republican who pilfered the "labor" poster and left the "Working People Vote Republican" in its place.

It is interesting to note how the editorial uses the term "Knox County Republicans."  For the policy wonks following the media blow up over the replacement platform recently adopted by the Maine GOP, the term "Knox County Republicans" is an important phrase.  It was the "Knox County Republicans" who introduced the platform amendment that replaced the stale 2008 platform that was lazily suggested to be used as the 2010 platform.

There are many planks on the new platform that the Editorial Board at the venerable Sun-Journal abhors, such as welfare reform, personal accountability, deporting illegal aliens, same sex marriage and the sanctity of life. No surprises there.

I just hope topics such as the attempted rip off of Maine taxpayers by the John Richardson campaign, the iconic Democrat labor lawyer from Brunswick, and the massive rip off of the Maine taxpayer by the failed Dirigo Health program would gain the same coverage as the rip off the taxpayers poster of the labor movement at King Middle School.

The double standard of the media is stunning in its audacity.

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Portland Has a Nice DisplayThis Year

The PSO will be playing at their display.  If you want to see fireworks, go there.

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Clay-Liston Fight

I wonder if the infamous Clay-Liston fight was, in fact, illegal?  Looks like someone was looking the other way.

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A Pool House while...

firing 20 workers or so.  Government gone mad.

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The headline is misleading

Check the first sentence.

And I don't believe the Obama propaganda for a minute.

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Here is a concept for the Editorial Board...

It would seem that all of this federal money (actually, borrowed money from China and Japan), could be attracted to this struggling state by one of two methods.

1.  By borrowing the money and paying interest for 10 years.

2.  By appropriating the money and taxing we taxpayers.  (Unless Tron gets paid for spending all day and night on his computer dissing Republicans, I doubt that he will get to pay anything --- principal or interest.)

So, if leveraging these Chinese/Japanese funds are such a great deal, why not just tax us?  It's less expensive.

Could it be that the Democrats know that they are in some jeopardy of getting run out of office if they add more taxes onto the already over-taxed taxpayers?  I can see where they'd like to use the credit card (as in taxpayers for the next 10 years).

Of course, with Lewiston and Auburn chock full of Tron-like layabouts, there is no danger of the Democrats being replaced here.

There ARE alternatives to running up the credit card balance.  It's now at about $11.5 billion or so.  I think that is excessive for a poor, and getting poorer, state.

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These are the "Salad Days" as far as taxes go...

and all indications are that next year will be far, far worse.  We'll remember 2010 as the days when taxes "were low."  Our friends in the Maine legislature have bonded (borrowed) like there was no tomorrow. (Debt now totals over 11.5 billion, to be paid by the what, 50% of Mainers that actually pay taxes).

Our friends in Washington, both Democrats and Republicans, have wracked up $13 trillion in debt and are spending at the rate of $4 billion a day...and we long ago spent the last dime collected from the taxpayers this fiscal year.

I've contributed to social security for 50 years...and it's been spent...not a dime invested.  There is no cash in Al Gore's vaunted "trust fund."  Just IOU's.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel.  It's not the tunnel exit.

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I agree 100% With the Editorial Board

Some facts about this giveaway program from Obama...

Over 1 million homeowners have applied

228,000 are in the program

155,000 were in the program but were unable to make even the lower payment so were cancelled

780,000 are in the trial period, meaning they have to make a few payments at the lowered amount before they are considered permanent.  Many won't make the 1st required payment at the lower amount.

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So Tron is against the VAT

It is interesting to note that the idea of a VAT was floated in Washington by the Democrats last week.  I'll note that Tron is, for once in his  life, against a Democrat proposal.

I don't see how a VAT would be "discriminatory" on anyone.  Everybody would pay the same rate.  Buy less, pay less.  Buy more, pay more.

You don't think through your arguments Tron.  

Well, gotta go and iron a shirt for tomorrow.  In case you haven't heard, Tron, for those of us in the workforce, Mondays kind of suck.

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Tron...

How about we end the income tax, since it is so inconsequential, and replace it with a value added tax?  (VAT)

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I'd Go Further Than the Good Professor...

The Lewiston School Department is to be commended and congratulated for the excellent effort to deal with the influx of "New Mainers", as the local vernacular is quick to label our African immigrants.  I can recall when a former Mayor of Lewiston emailed me and told me that she was going to "teach Lewiston residents a lesson in diversity."  Indeed she has, and the Lewiston School Department was at the "tip of the spear" in having to respond to this "lesson", or "Grand Experiment" as the Editor of the Sun-Journal once called the influx.

In a grand sense, the experiment has gone well.  The New Mainers seem to be enjoying life in Lewiston.  I've seen, for myself, them strolling the streets, going to worship on Lisbon Street, relaxing in Kennedy Park on sunny afternoons, visiting the halls of government and busily going about their chores in the ever-present minivans.  Life is good in Lewiston.  Let's all give ourselves a hardy pat on the back for making this all work.

This writer would be the last to blame Lewiston's educators for poor test grades.  And I agree with Professor Regan's point to "balance" the students into different schools.  But I would go farther.

Why don't we suggest that each city and town in Maine take on a family or two of New Mainers?  We have 495 towns and cities in Maine.  Why shouldn't those towns and cities get to experience the rich cultural diversity that Lewiston has enjoyed for the last decade?

Why shouldn't the New Mainers get to interact with the kids in Cape Elizabeth, Camden, Falmouth and Bar Harbor?  People in those tony towns always have plenty to say about how Lewiston should do this and that for New Mainers.  Let them put their money where their mouths are, no?

Imagine the New Mainers learning to ski at Sugarloaf and going to school with future Olympians.  How wonderful would it be to give them sailing lessons at the Portland Yacht Club on the Foreside.  How about golf lessons at Webhannet in Kennebunk?  Get them out of the "catchment" Ms. Regan calls downtown Lewiston and experience Maine, "The Way Life Should Be."

Silly me.  It will never happen.  It makes too much sense to spread the wealth.

Lewiston taxpayers, get your checkbooks out.  Professor Regan warns in her column: "Lewiston must commit continuously to the interventions that the school improvement grant will permit."  The Federal money (taxpayer provided, with interest) will come and will go.  Her "interventions" is a code word for "taxpayer money." But life in the catchment will continue for decades and all the money in the world world won't change people that have no interest in being helped.

It's time for some fundamental transformation thinking to seriously address this conundrum.  Perhaps Barack Obama should have made his speech from a renovated Kennedy Park Gazebo and told us all how it should be done?

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tron...your way of life

tron... some of us work for a living.  Some of us pay taxes. Recent data suggests that about 1/2 of us pay taxes and 1/2 rely on we workers to provide your "way of life."  In other words, we workers are pulling you layabouts around in some gigantic taxpayer provided wagon.  I've been pulling the wagon around for decades and I'm getting a bit tired of it.

Suggest you climb down off the wagon and help us pull for awhile.  Maybe your world view will change.

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Questions...

1.  We owe over $11 billion now.  When is the borrowing going to stop?

2.  My calculation of interest is much higher than the Sun-Journal's.  I used 3%.

3.  If these projects are so vital to our future, why didn't the legislature just include them in the current budget?  Why are we borrowing the money for such great deals? Why pay interest?

4.  Could it be that these bonds (loans) are a way for Democrats to have it both ways? As in, get to spend the money and not have to face the voters as to the cost.  Let's them spread out the cost over 10 years.  So what if we taxpayers have to foot the interest costs.

5.  Remember, to Democrats, other people's money is the best kind of money, right?

6.  When is this state finally going to gag on all of this fiscal insanity and go toes up?

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Investment Options

The stock market is often used as a red herring by those that support the raping of America by the Social Security Ponzi Scheme.  In fact, privatization would limit the investment options to rather low risk investments.  The key concept is that it is INVESTED, not spent.

Note to self:  What's the use.  It's too late to help people that don't want to be helped.

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Tron... I've Been Working

for the last 50 years (started by delivering the Sun at 11) and I have contributed for most of that time on a weekly basis to Social Security.

Tron, just so that you know, working means "going to work and working for a living, not sitting around on my computer every day, hurling invective at Republicans."  You ought to be gentle on us, as we support you on a day to day basis.

Anyway, as a young person, I thought that our Federal government was investing my contributions in a fund that was earning interest so that I would have an income stream when I am able to retire (which looks to be at least 70 years of age these days).

Silly me.

Now, I find that nothing was invested.  Our erstwhile Congresses have spent every dime I contributed.  This year, Social Security will pay out $29 billion dollars more than it collects in contributions.  In other words, it is "done broke."

Congress has done just what my grandfathers feared...confiscated money, spent it, promised that it would be there to help in retirement, and went broke.

Those are the facts, Tron.

When I ran for state senate (a state job), I was trashed by the great Peggy Rotundo for suggesting that social security allow us to invest some money on our own, rather than let Congress spend it out from under us (a federal issue, for those keeping track).  She played the class card to strike fear into the minds of the electorate.

Today, Social Security is insolvent.  Broke.  Busted.

 

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Reminds me of a Melanie song from the '60's

"What Have the Done to my Town, Ma?"

The Sun-Journal editor, years ago, called the social re-engineering of Lewiston a "grand experiment."  Nine years later...well, you decide.

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Lil Jumps in And Helps a Stumped Tron

Nothing in the law forcing you to buy insurance?  And you can avoid the "tax" if you buy insurance?  Do you think the Supreme Court is going to buy that (lame attempt at) deception?

All Americans (except low income individuals, of course) will have to buy the insurance or be fined, I mean "taxed", according to Lil.

Lil, you'll have to sell the car insurance example elsewhere.  Driving a car in these United States is considered a privilege.  Under the health care "reform" bill, there is no way to opt out.  You must purchase insurance, from one of the evil insurance companies.  You can opt out of having purchasing car insurance by choosing to give up car ownership and/or driving.  So your statement "there is no constitutional right not to have insurance, see auto insurance" fails the truth test.

Note that we are moving of the "commerce clause" to the "Necessary and Proper clause."  That one will be very hard to get the Supremes to go along with if the Justices are at all concerned about the concept of "personal freedom."  Where does it stop?

 

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PLease Explain, Tron

Here is the Commerce clause: "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes".

Please explain how those 16 words give Obama and the Reid-Pelosi-Michaud axis the authority to mandate that Americans have to purchase services from private companies.

This ought to be interesting.

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Optimist

I am optimistic about many things.  But I am a realist, and I am tired of the game being played by journalists.  Our government leaders are making many foolish moves that are digging us deeper into the hole.

I demand honest, well-researched writing.  I guess I'm asking for too much.

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Where Does It Stop, Joe?

The health care "reform" bill does force, under the threat of paying a fine of 2% of your household income, Americans to buy health insurance.  It makes them purchase insurance from the "evil insurance companies" so vilified by the unions and their lap dogs, the Washington Democrats in Congress.  How ironic!

Just to make sure we pay up, the bill authorizes the hiring of 16,500 more IRS agents to harass Americans.

This law is unconstitutional.  Since when can the United States government force any American to buy goods or services from a private business?  What's to stop them at buying health insurance from the the "evil insurance companies?"

Why not force us to buy lunch at Gippers?  Cars from General Motors?  Insurance from AIG?   The newspaper from the Sun-Journal?

Even the liberal court of FDR stopped short of requiring citizens from buying anything from a private company.

Wake up, America.  Obama and his buddies, Michaud and Pingree, are very, very evil.  Unless, of course, you are a socialist.

 

 

 

 

 

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"An Improving Economy" ???

Earth to the Sun-Journal. I repeat, Earth to the Sun-Journal.

In case you missed it, the economy is tanking. Unemployment is near 10%. It is really near 20% counting the folks who have given up looking for work. The Obama "Stimulus" is an abject failure. The United States is awash in debt, nearly $14 trillion. Maine is hopelessly underwater in debt to the tune of $14 billion with no plans to get out from under the debt load. As a matter of fact, they want to borrow more.

My prediction is that Charlie Colgan and his committee will be wrong, once again, and Augusta will be scrambling to borrow money to balance the budget soon after the elections this November. Extend and pretend, baby!

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The Most Troubling Number in the Story...

is that 42% of Maine students are living in poverty.  Shame on the ruling party, in power for 40 years, to have devastated the jobs landscape so that so many children are forced to grow up destitute.  Shame on Maine's voters for returning the ruling party to power election after election.

Einstein once said that "the definition of insanity is attempting the same thing, over and over, and expecting a different result."  It doesn't take a genius to understand that the ruling party isn't doing the job.  It is time for change.

42%.  Shame on you, Rotundo, Craven, Wagner, Simpson, Bolduc.

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Think this Economy is Turning Soon?

Don't bet on it.  No, it's not Obama's fault that we are in this economic mess.  We are in a massive correction that was inevitable given the drunken spending spree that Congress and G7 nations have been on since the late 1940's.  Start with this one:  Every dime that I and every worker has had deducted from our gross pay since Social Security started has been spent.  Spent on recipients, battleships, carriers, welfare and B-2 bombers among other goodies.  This the year where more will be paid out in SS benefits than will be collected.  They've opened the file cabinet and hauled out the IOU's that we now will have to pay back.  They have invested in nothing.

We are $14 trillion in debt and, with Obama at the helm, will be adding to the debt at a rate of $2 trillion a year.  Our national debt  will soon equal our national GDP....generally regarded as a fatal tipping point to disaster.  If the government took all of our net worth away from us, it wouldn't begin to cover the debt we owe.

Maine is $14 billion in debt.  Hopeless.

You can thank the free-spending morons in Congress and in Augusta for this.  Decades and decades of them.  Morons is a strong word, but very appropriate given the disaster we are currently in.

Joe on the Street is in for one heck of surprise.  The elected elite are playing extend and pretend.  And the media continues to either be ignorant of the basic economics of our time or is willfully sweeping it under the rug.

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You have got to be kidding Tron...

The Democrats rammed through the health care "reform" bill in both the Senate and the House.  It was a 100% Democrat written and Democrat voted bill.  There was no Republican input and deals done behind closed doors amongst Democrats only.  I don't expect the Republicans to "go along" with the socialists.  I expect them to stand up to socialism at every opportunity.

How do you know, Tron, that the threats aimed at the socialists and sell-outs were made by Republicans?  You are jumping to conclusions.  Let's see what the investigations yield.

I hope the voters of Maine's 2CD vote Michaud back on to the fork lift.  Oh wait.  There might not be a mill left for Mike to return to because part of the health care "reform" included a removal of the tax break on a key chemical used in Maine papermaking that will hit the Maine paper industry hard.  Imagine that, union brothers.  Mike, who depends on the support of the union leadership for his existence as a politician, votes to take food right off the brothers tables.  This aspect of health care "reform" goes conveniently unreported by the Maine newspapers.  I wonder why?

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English vs. Irish

Relations between the "Yankees" and the Irish immigrants were not cordial in the last half of the 19th century, indeed.

Monsignor Paul Gleason of St. Patrick's Church told the following story in a sermon a number of years ago:

Arsonist torched a small Catholic church on Lincoln Street one evening.  The Lewiston Fire Department responded, but their efforts were thwarted when bystanders repeated cut the fire hoses supplying the horse drawn pumpers.  Captain Kelsey responded to the fire and, upon observing the locals slicing the hoses, straddled the hoses with a rifle and told the crowd that the next person cutting a hose was a "dead man."

Kelsey was well known as a friend of the Irish immigrants streaming into Lewiston to dig the canals, build the mills and prepare the infrastructure for the Francos who would soon populate the mills with inexpensive labor.

Monsignor Gleason would later name the St. Patrick's Parish Hall as "Kelsey Hall" in honor of Kelsey.

The technique used to obtain the lot for St. Joseph's (and maybe St. Patrick's???) was theft by any other name.  I am disappointed to learn the Bates held those views but also would have expected that the Irish would pay for the real estate on which they would erect their church.

Lewiston was, and is, an interesting town.

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No Worries Tron

Tron apparently sits home and posts all day on his computer.  He's probably among the 45% of American households who pay no federal income tax.  The rest of us are signing off to get ready for work to support Tron.

The 55% of us pulling the wagon that Tron is riding on are getting pretty tired of it.

As for Ray Demers, well, there are no pills for Bush Derangement Syndrome.  Maybe it will wear off with time.

Gotta go to work!  See ya posts tonite, Tronnie!

 

 

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Nothing Surprises Me Anymore

Franco day on St. Patrick's Day.  Just weird.

Congratulations to those honored.  

Now, let's go out and find some new taxes to extract.  Fight for us!

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The Bizarro World of Judson Duncan

Up is down.  Down is up.  Eggs are green.  Democrats help George Bush.  Social Security trust funds have money in them.  Bush is bad.  Obama is good.  Depression started in 1972.  

Bush Derangement Syndrome rages on.

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There are 364 Alternatives

Yes, Mr. Breton, it is very important to those of us with Irish blood.  The Irish came to Maine in the 1850's and were a major force in building Lewiston, back when it was a place when immigrants (French, Irish, Greeks, Poles) came to work and contribute.  I think designating French Heritage Day on St. Patrick's Day is a bizarre slap in the face of the many hard-working Irish of several generations past.

I am also very proud of my French blood and honor the Parent and Thibodeau lineage that preceded me.  Give everyone their day in the legislature if you insist on taking up expensive legislative time on honors and sentiments.

I believe the progressive Senator Craven has more than a little Irish blood in her.  I'd expect her to "fight" to move French Heritage Day to another date.  Her silence is deafening, but also bizarre and not unexpected.

 

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What Could Possibly Go Wrong!

Another case of champagne taste overruling a beer bottle budget.  

When the arsonists lit up the Cowan Mill and embers ignited the massive 100 year old roof, Lewiston dodged a major bullet due to the good work of Auburn Engine 5.  It underscored the prudence of the decision to level a building that had long outlived its usefulness, one that has become a significant public safety issue.

Apparently Lewiston has a large chunk of change hidden away to re-develop old No. 5.  

"Extend and pretend" is an art form these days.

 

 

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Legal vs. Illegal

Do you know the difference, "tron"?  The speaker was talking about illegal immigration.

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A Question for "Tron"

Dan...

Mr. Macdonald's point is very valid.  The State of Maine owes Maine's health care providers over $300 million dollars in delinquent payments for services rendered to patients enrolled in various state healthcare "programs."  Two of the legislators representing Lewiston are on the Appropriations Committee...namely Senator Craven and Representative Rotundo.  These public servants control the purse strings and, to a large extent, control who will get paid by state government and who will not.

Do you think it appropriate for state government to enroll people in programs and then refuse to pay the contracted providers for services rendered?  A simple yes or no will suffice.

I would suggest that the Sun-Journal spend as much time and energy questioning why we, the taxpayers of Maine, are stiffing the state's healthcare providers through the malfeasance of our elected representatives as it does playing the class card and running interference for the very people who are running up the tab.  I work diligently daily to pay my bills.  I expect that our elected Senators and Representatives pay the bills racked up by their favorite programs.

And, no, I have no connection to CMMC other than to have been given the best in care there in the past.

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Having worked in and around

Having worked in and around Bates No. 5 during the 1960's, I am not sure why the fascination by current historical preservationists with the Weave Shed.  It was loud, hot, smelly and dangerous work.

I can recall an elderly gentleman whose job it was to clean off the grates over the intake to the power generator every day with a long-handle rake.  He was a nice man, short in stature and very friendly.  One day, he slipped and was pinned against the grates by the water pressure and his body was peeled off the grates when the canal was lowered as part of the recovery process.

There was no ear protection.  I can only imagine what the decibel level was in that weave room.  Most communication was by hand signals.

We got to wash up at 2:55 PM in slate sinks with cold water.

It was a job.  I made $1.25 an hour.  Thank God I got to leave for school when September came around.

No. 5 was bad, but the Dye House and the Card Room were something else again.

No romance, no fond memories.  Hard working people stuck in a horrific existence that shouldn't be glamorized.  You can tell us easily on the street.  We are all hard of hearing.

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I hope Stimulus II works.

I hope Stimulus II works. Stimulus I, which put our children and grandchildren in debt for years, obviously didn't, if you examine Obama's own metrics. (Unemployment rate is 10%, and Stimulus I was supposed to keep it under 8.5%)

Albrecht and fellow Dems need to forget blaming Bush for the mess we are in. I don't recall the great Ronald Reagan always whining about the horrific mess that Carter left the United States in. (Remember 21.5% prime rates and 10% annual inflation? I didn't think so.)

Get on to the task and stop bellyaching.

Obama and the Democrats have all the votes needed. Let's see what they can do. Then vote them out in 2010.

All the best,

Bob

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Is that not the message? I

Is that not the message? I believe that most reasonable people would see that charitable giving is not being encouraged by the new law passed by Democrats.

All the best,

Bob

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tron... The top income

tron...

The top income earners in the USA pay a large percentage of the income taxes. About half of the households in the USA pay nothing --- zero. Our tax code is very progressive. How is it fair that 44% get to pay nothing? I'll bet the 44% get a significant amount of federal benefits. Thye take and ride the wagon. Time for them to pay their "fair share."

All the best,

Bob

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Tron, of course, ignores the

Tron, of course, ignores the massive deficits that are currently being run by Obama and the Dems.

All the best,

Bob

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Bob gives plenty to charity.

Bob gives plenty to charity. He has a job.

All the best,

Bob

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Ronnie... When you cannot

Ronnie...

When you cannot argue the facts, you resort to personal attacks. Nice form. Classy.

All the best,

Bob

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Carey is being deceptive or

Carey is being deceptive or doesn't understand what he voted for. It is amazing that the Sun-Journal editors let him get away with the mis-information.

§ 5111. Imposition and rate of tax
A tax is imposed for each taxable year beginning on or after January 1, 2010 on the Maine taxable income of every resident individual of this State at the rate of 6.5%. This eliminates the current tax rates of 2.0%, 4.5%, 7% and 8.5%. Although this was advertised as an elimination of the highest (8.5%) rate, it actually eliminated all lower rates and subjects everyone to a 6.5% tax. This is deceptive in presentation.

LD 1495 eliminates the current Maine income tax structure that includes reductions for personal exemptions and the standard (or itemized) deduction with a tax limited, refundable tax credit. The limiting of itemized deductions under LD 1495 results in tax increases for many middle-income taxpayers with high itemized deductions like interest, property taxes, medical costs and contributions. These new credits are 1) Partially “refundable” ie: those who do not pay taxes can claim these as a refund. 2) Phased out: ie: taken away from those who exceed certain income limits.

A credit is allowed against the tax otherwise due under this Part for certain charitable contributions. The credit equals 5% of the amount of charitable contributions claimed on a federal return, excluding deductions carried over from prior years, that exceeds $250,000.
Taxes are collected at 6.5% but charitable deductions are taken at only 5%. Message: Don’t give to charity.

Sec. A-36. Legislative intent. It is the intent of the Legislature that the household credit
provided under the Maine Revised Statutes, Title 36, section 5218-A and section 5218-B is to provide relief to low-income and middle-income persons from the disproportionate cost of living in this State including the high cost of heating oil and the heavy reliance of the citizens of the State on heating oil, which is the highest in the nation; the high cost of transportation and the limited availability of public transportation; the disproportionate state and local tax burden, including the extension of sales tax to services; and the high rate of local property taxes that contribute to household costs.

So, Carey and his follow Democrats recognize the "disproportionate" state and local tax burden, but do nothing about it. It is true the higher income Mainers will do very well with this "reform" while the middle class homeowner, working, paying a mortgage and getting nailed by property taxes "takes one for the team." Ask California how this has worked out for them.

Increases in meals & lodging taxes and rental care fees will not entirely go to offset the general tax fund, they will be used to further fund government programs. This does not provide us with the promised tax relief that is being advertised. Further gap in what is being advertised and how this is really written.

4,638 taxpayers in the top 1 percent of Mainers earning over $350,810 will get a $34.8 million tax cut. The other 99.3 percent of taxpayers will have a tax increase of $3.3 million. Those are the cold, hard, facts that are being kept quiet by Carey and his comrades.

Carey and fellow travelers also are silent on tax years 2011 through 2013, when the impacts of this "reform" become even worse for Mainers.

In summary, this is a tax cut for the rich, a redistribution of wealth to the poor, and, once again, the guy in the middle gets shafted.

Representative Carey and fellow Democrats should put aside attempts at experiments (such as Dirigo Health and LD 1) and get serious about controlling the explosion in state government spending.

Before tron and others villify me as being a Republican and against the little guy, I note that I am neither. I will benefit from this law because of my income status. I feel it is bad policy and will adversely impact hundreds of thousands of Mainers.

I am sick of the deception by the Democrats and the complicity of the Sun-Journal in their efforts. 40 years of failed policy.

All the best,

Bob

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I'd like the Sun-Journal to

I'd like the Sun-Journal to replace this type of editorial with substantive topics such as:

* the unfunded liability in state pension programs. Might be entitled "The Maine Taxpayer: Sailing into an Incredible Economic Storm"

* the crushing debt being piled up by politicians. Might be entitled "The Maine Quagmire: Debt that every taxpayer in Maine will need to pay back"

* Welfare in Androscoggin County. Might be Entitled: "Where Have All the Real Wages Gone in the Watershed?"

Now, that would be real journalism, not a re-hash of the headlines. I think the Sun-Journal has its head buried in the sand. Nice people, they are, but I would have received a "D" from my Journalism professor for "feel good writing." Time for hard hitting, investigative reporting and opinion crafting. Perhaps the printed media would be read for more than the $200 in coupons in the middle of the paper.

Justin Pelletier does a great job with MAINEiac coverage. Sports and "B" Section are excellent. The editorial page is a yawn.

We all know there are plenty of interesting stories out there.

All the best,

Bob

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tron... When the Sun-Journal

tron...

When the Sun-Journal gets around to discovering the details behind the editorial suggestions I left for them, even you might be concerned. I notice how quickly you move to personal attack mode. I left a coconut for you on Bob Woodbury's post. I need to go to turn on the air conditioner. Global climate change has made it rather warm in the tropics today. LOL

All the best,

Bob

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Bob... Thanks for the

Bob...

Thanks for the compliment. Pleased that you enjoyed my writing. The Times did provide me with a great retirement. I just scaled a coconut tree and found a coconut. Some layabout by the name of Breton. LOL

All the best,

Bob

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While I am not enthralled

While I am not enthralled with Collins, she stands, usually, shoulder to shoulder with we taxpayers. Only half of households are taxpayers. They are the wagon pullers. Ledoux speaks for the wagon riders. You people are getting heavy back there on the wagon.

All the best,

Bob

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"Global Warming" has become

"Global Warming" has become "Global Climate Change." Global temps are getting cooler.

It's a racket...

"Meet Al Gore in Copenhagen."

An official announcement from this fair Danish city says all: the former vice president is getting star treatment when he arrives with an entire swarm of green-minded gadflies for the United Nation's week-long global warming extravaganza that begins Dec. 7.

"Have you ever shaken hands with an American vice president? If not, now is your chance. Meet Al Gore in Copenhagen during the UN Climate Change Conference," notes the Danish tourism commission, which is helping Mr. Gore promote "Our Choice: A Plan to Solve the Climate Crisis," his newest book about global warming in all its alarming modalities.

"Tickets are available in different price ranges for the event. If you want it all, you can purchase a VIP ticket, where you get a chance to shake hands with Al Gore, get a copy of Our Choice and have your picture taken with him. The VIP event costs DKK 5,999 and includes drinks and a light snack."

How much is that in American dollars? The currency conversion says all too: 5,999 Danish kroners is equivalent to $1,209.

(from the Washington Times)

All the best,

Bob

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Raise taxes while we are in

Raise taxes while we are in the depths of a deepening recession...

What could possibly go wrong?!

All the best,

Bob

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With all due respect,

With all due respect, paragraphs are our friends. Readability is a key concept.

All the best,

Bob

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1. Define a "win" in

1. Define a "win" in Afghanistan. I cannot.

2. Get out now.

All the best,

Bob

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They are conservative when

They are conservative when compared to the socialists that the Dems run against them. In three years, every incumbent will be thrown out on their keisters as unemployment will be in the stratosphere and inflation will be sky rocketing. And Obama and Congress will be borrowing a trillion each year.

We get the government we deserve.

All the best,

Bob

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Just shaking my head. What

Just shaking my head. What a tangled mess of political correctness. Good luck.

All the best,

Bob

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Every one of the vaunted

Every one of the vaunted federal health care "programs" have cost the American taxpayer many multiples (up to 17 times) the predicted costs. J Albrecht might not want to believe that first sentence, but it is the truth. No reasonable person thinks that Michaud-Pelosi will be any different.

Health insurance companies are private sector firms that have an average return of 9% or so, not an excessive rate of return for any private sector company. Unless, of course, one is a socialist that believes "the state" should own all businesses (see Karl Marx).

The United States should beware the Democrats socialization of health care. They intend no good.

All the best,

Bob

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I'm with ya on tobacco,

I'm with ya on tobacco, Professor, but I see the health care "reform" and "Climate change" as just another in a long line of Democrat attempts to "transform" the United States into a third world, socialist country. I work hard for my health insurance, pay more for it than I should due to the Democrats in the Maine legislature and the Blaine house, and am a five year cancer survivor who was cured by the use of a machine that likely would never have been developed under Michaud-Pelosi government medicine.

All the best,

Bob

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The Democrats are playing

The Democrats are playing fast and loose the numbers. The only way they can make the outlandish claims they are making is by taxing the taxpayers in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013, accumulating a down payment, and then putting the program in operation in 2014 and 2015. Would you buy a house that you had to start paying for in 2010 but couldn't move into until 2014 or 2015? Didn't think so.

And Medicare is now costing 700% more than was predicted. Is there any government benefit program that has met budget projections? No. Some are over cost projections by a ratio of 17:1. What is different with this one?

All the best,

Bob

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I'll be this gets written

I'll be this gets written out of the bill in the dead of night.

All the best,

Bob

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85% of Americans have health

85% of Americans have health insurance now. Most appreciate what they have. The rates paid in Maine for health insurance are above and beyond what most of America pays due to the fiscal immorality of the Democrats in Augusta over the past 40 years.

All the best,

Bob

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tron... The GOP position was

tron...

The GOP position was made quite clear. Kill this bill and start over, with sane and non-socialist thinking. The Dems want to ram this through as soon as possible, as they know that the economy is going to tank big time in the near future and they will have no political capital remaining.

All the best,

Bob

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Thankfully, the

Thankfully, the Michaud-Pelosi bill will be substantially modified IF the Democrats come up with 60 votes in the Senate, and that will be a challenge for Harry Reid to engineer as even several Democrats understand the ruinous nature of the liberal "health insurance" legislation being proposed.

The Michaud-Pelosi bill will take away our basic freedoms and is a gigantic step towards socialism. Taxes will begin in 2010, and the "benefits" will start in 2014/2015. Perhaps Ms. Akers is fortunate enough to be the benefit of federal government "programs" and part of the 45% of Americans who pay no federal income taxes so she doesn't care what the other 55% are going to have to pay?

At some point, the gravy train is going to end, and we taxpayers are going to say "Enough is enough."

It's time to send Mike Michaud back to East Millinocket and be done with this foolishness. 85% of Americans have health insurance now, and many like it. Let's insure the truly indigent, get the lawyers off the docs backs, and cut the $60 billion in Medicare waste and abuse and get on with it. Socialism has never worked in any country and it won't work in the United States.

All the best,

Bob

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Tell you what,

Tell you what, "queenhoneeybee"... I won't even look you up because I don't care to know you.

I would suggest that you look up the word "moniker" before considering it an insult. Wow!

All the best,

Bob

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I've known Maureen for a

I've known Maureen for a long time, and have never known her to be other than 100% truthful. You are hurling some damaging personal insults her way and I can see why you are hiding behind a moniker.

All the best,

Bob

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Maureen Lachappelle and Leon

Maureen Lachappelle and Leon Levesque have gone to great lengths to provide a quality educational experience to the students of all faiths and political systems. Do some research on C.A.I.R. and learn about their agenda. It isn't pretty.

Honeybee, it is easy to hide behind a moniker and take shots at good people. We'll start to take you with more than a grain of salt when you post under your own name. Maureen is a professional, caring administrator who has dedicated her life to her students. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

All the best,

Bob

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No license? How could he be

No license? How could he be driving?

All the best,

Bob

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I think the population of

I think the population of Maine is closer to 1.3 million people. That leaves 1 in 4 residents getting some sort of DHHS support. It is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. Transfoming America, we are.

All the best,

Bob

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I cannot wait until I can

I cannot wait until I can help vote the Pelosi tools out of office.

All the best,

Bob

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I grew up in Sabattus. We

I grew up in Sabattus. We once hiked from the Town Hall to Camp Gustin, We set up camp and stayed there for the weekend. It was great. We even dug a latrine, which is likely not PC today. I can recall Loon Pond was full of blood suckers but nice to look at.

All the best,

Bob

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Could you explain to me and

Could you explain to me and the group how this is 'affordable'? How much will you pay for this insurance they passed last evening? I'll bet you have no idea, do you?

All the best,

Bob

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Mike Michaud voted for the

Mike Michaud voted for the Pelosi-Obama bill. The bill included a provision that will cost the paper making industry $24 billion a year. Does Mike think that this will help his fellow union brothers who are desperately hanging on to their jobs in Maine? He threw every paper maker under the bus.

Mike would be in East Millinocket, waiting for the mill to start up, if not for his union brothers. He screwed them hard last night. Of course, union leadership will tell their members that it was all the Republicans fault that they lost their jobs.

The undeniable fact is that a vote against the company that employs you is a vote against you, as an employee. Michaud MAY understand this, but he is counting on the Maine media to carry his water and union leadership to keep this from the members.

Time to send Mike into retirement.

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Black liquor is a big

Black liquor is a big problem for Mike.

All the best,

Bob

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The people, as always, will

The people, as always, will decide.

All the best,

Bob

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Jim Minkowsky is an

Jim Minkowsky is an excellent choice. He and Mike Bussiere represent an excellent leadershio team.

Don't focus on the $70,000 Baldacci salary. He has an excellent package of fringe benefits:

- a $30,000, no questions asked, expense account.

- a home, food, chefs, vehicle, driver, security guard, landscaper, etc.

- a killer pension plan. Very rich. That he can start drawing very early.

- gold plated health care plan for he and the family

All in all, probably worth about $200,000 a year.

All the best,

Bob

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Action packed.

Action packed.

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Tron... How does this cost

Tron...

How does this cost the state "millions" every year.

All the best,

Bob

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What shift? This is Maine.

What shift? This is Maine. Mainers love taxes. It's the "Maine Way." Dirigo.

All the best,

Bob

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These are emergencies? All

These are emergencies?

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Bob

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I'd suggest that Larry

I'd suggest that Larry attempt to change the City Charter. The Charter is quite clear...the Mayor breaks ties, cuts ribbons. Period. There is a reason why Lewiston has a weak mayor form of government. I'll let Larry do the research.

All the best,

Bob

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We conserve because it is

We conserve because it is stupid to stand there and rip up dollar bills. Energy is expensive and shouldn't be wasted.

I don't believe that global warming is caused by man. I believe that the science is bogus and politically motivated. I do believe that humans have a responsibility to keep the air we breathe clean and water pure.

I would advise everyone to be very aware of "cap and trade" that Obama and most congressional Democrats are pushing. It has everything to do with driving our economy into socialism and the dark ages.

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Albrecht is great at name

Albrecht is great at name calling. Totally void of ideas, other than to elect more Democrats to office. I am willing to bet that he never met Steve Abbott in person, but has a negative name ready for him. Tells much about the name caller.

All the best,

Bob

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In some ways, I like the

In some ways, I like the property tax. It is a tax that requires the property owner to write a check twice a year to the local government. As it rises, it hurts. As it falls, we get the sense that our money is being used efficiently. Sales taxes and income taxes are bundled up and we don't notice them as much as we do property taxes.

The Augustans seem to be disconnected from reality and insulated from accountability to the people who pay income and property taxes. Look at Peggy Rotundo, Margaret Craven, and Deb Simpson. They are champion tax and spenders while the people that put them into Augustan land moan and groan about spending/taxes. Talk about schizophrenia!

I'll bet the next round of budget cuts ($200,000,000.00) in Augusta will come out of state aid to municipalities. The local units will have to increase taxes or decrease spending, two options that are bound to upset just about everyone, one way or the other.

We would have very different government if we got paid gross dollars and had to write a check to the Feds for income taxes and Medicare and to the state for income taxes every pay period.

All the best,

Bob

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I ran in the 5K event and

I ran in the 5K event and had a great time. Many friends and family helped raise some money in support of the Center and I hope to raise much more next year. The event was very well organized and first class. I was proud to wear 3055 and my "survivor" bib and contribute to the effort.

It seems there will always be magpies on the telephone line, cackling about a successful effort and trying to tear things down. I am sure that the event organizers spent other people's money wisely to make it safe and enjoyable to all the participants. Significant funds for the Dempsey Center were raised in the end.

Welcome back from vacation to the same old, same old, Chuck Gill. Wonder why it's tough to move forward in Lewiston-town? Read the article.

All the best,

Bob

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Certainly a innovator and a

Certainly a innovator and a force in Maine newspaper publishing. I can remember when he had the first IBM computer installed in the business office. I think it was a System/34. They did their payroll on it among other tasks. Mr. Costello was in it up to his eyeballs.

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Rest in eternal peace,

Rest in eternal peace, Monsignor.

How many times did I walk past his crypt on the way in and out of the Parish Hall for hot lunch. We were educated on Msgr. Wallace from the youngest grades. He was a force in industrial Lewiston, where people streamed in to work for a living.

How different Lewiston is today. For the better? Your call.

All the best,

Bob

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Quite an outbreak of

Quite an outbreak of robberies lately. And it is not even holidays.

All the best,

Bob

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This is a fast and easily

This is a fast and easily spreadable virus that tends to hit people in the 5-24 year demographic hard. Pregnant women also tend to get quite sick. The good news is that it seems to be beatable by the human body. About all you can do at this point is wash your hands frequently. (info from a presentation by Maine CDC)

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1. Lewiston came within a

1. Lewiston came within a few minutes of a major catastrophe. Thank God for a great stop by the AFD on the roof of Mill 5.

2. I think this story is going to get very interesting from here. Let's watch it develop.

All the best,

Bob

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Looks like the Dems are

Looks like the Dems are going to use the nuclear option. All by themselves. Go ahead.

People get the government they deserve.

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Tron... The GOP did

Tron...

The GOP did themselves in. They ran a poor candidate (McCain) and a poor campaign. They lost control of spending during the Bush years and alienated their base. (I am a FORMER Republican for that, and several other, reasons) They feature a number of "moderates", like Snowe and Collins, who stand for very little other than getting re-elected. (But who can blame them...the money is good.)

With the White House and Congress in control of free-spending Democrats, the GOP IS irrelevant. About all the Democrats can hope for from the GOP is "cover" for their spending and socialization of America. And they will get that from Snowe, Collins, McCain and the bunch. It then can be christened "bi-partisan."

I agree with you on the Blue Dogs, they slowed the Obama train down. Obama is sinking like a rock in approval ratings, and needs to pass health care "reform" in a hurry. I think he's already lost it. I was looking at a Facebook poll today and it was running 74% against government run health care (730,000 respondents in the sample size). And, despite what Olympia Snowe states, we are talking about government run healthcare.

I doubt the GOP has as much to do with the uproar this August as you might think. I liken the GOP to the gang that couldn't shoot straight. I think America is waking up to Obama and realizing him for what he is... a very liberal socialist. And health care "reform" is a concrete example of what Obama-style socialism is.

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Tron... I don't think it has

Tron...

I don't think it has anything to do with patriotism. Now you are starting to sound like Nancy Pelosi and the other name callers.

It is much easier to fix a system in the conceptual stage than it is when the system has been designed, programmed and implemented. An executive worth his salt will make sure that as many stakeholders fingerprints are all over the design. If people feel that they have input into the design, they will tend to support it and try to make it work.

I've read that there are five plans working their way through Congress. None of us really knows what the final plan looks like. Obama apparently has a plan in his head and we hear about it in bits and pieces.

You are correct in that the Democrats could just pass "reform" and we'd have to live with it. We wouldn't have to like it, but would have to live with it. If Republican or unenrolled input is not required. then the Democrats should do us a favor and install their design. We'll see how it works.

I think the problem is that the Democrats are not sure that this thing won't blow up in their collective faces. The Obama-Biden team is as liberal as liberal gets, and more sensible heads on the Democrat side really know that we are being fed a bunch of hogwash and are trying to talk some sense into the Leninists in the Obama camp.

There are many alternatives which are being shut out by Obama. Tort reform. Shared responsibility in paying for this huge socialization of American business. On and on.

We are doing all of this for about 8 million people, about 3 percent of Americans. The 47 million is a bogus number and anyone who is halfway informed understands that it is a wild overstatement of the problem.

Of course, changes should be introduced into the existing system. But let's make them in a careful, balanced manner that won't ruin our great American health care that we enjoy today. Insurance isn't medical care and the two should not be confused.

The great Paul Nadler coined the phrase "There is no such thing as a free lunch." I think many Obama supporters believe there is a free lunch. Let's preserve health care and figure out a better way for ALL of us to pay for it.

All the best,

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RPS... Other than the

RPS...

Other than the salaries of the big guns, what salaries are going to go away under a government run system? I shudder to think of the number of federal employees required to run a government system.

Nothing the federal government does, other than maybe the Secret Service, is efficient.

Could you explain how the "health care system" is being harmed by insurers? Maine's insurance landscape is has driven most of the insurers away from the state.

Bob

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Veritas... Posted a my

Veritas... Posted a my response on the original thread.

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Veritas... The MRS website

Veritas...

The MRS website states "Standard and Itemized Deductions and Personal Exemptions are Repealed and Replaced with Tax Credits." Since Mortgage interest, charitable contribution and other expenses are included in Itemized deductions, I concluded that it no longer exists. The tax credits are supposed to replace the dedcutions. In my case, my wife and I pay more under the new law.

So, you are correct. Somehow, our return works out to cost us more. Maybe for some, there is a reduction. As a middle class taxpayer, I am not seeing it.

All the best,

Bob

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Veritas... Thanks for

Veritas...

Thanks for pointing out the apparent error in my understanding. I will check it out and get back to you. I may have been given bad info, and I, unlike some, will admit my mistake rather than repeating falsehoods. A/K/A "the Big Lie."

All the best,

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Lil... It is ROE, Lil. ROE.

Lil...

It is ROE, Lil. ROE. Those are the facts.

Try to spin it all you want.

Perhaps I should ask. What is an acceptable, "non-theivish" ROE for you? 1% ?

All the best,

Bob

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Hello Mark... Good to see

Hello Mark...

Good to see you complete the Trifecta: Duncan, Albrecht and now Tardif. I've been waiting for your letter. Here are some comments for you.

1. "health insurers protecting their thievish profits" --- LOL. I just looked up the return on equity of three of the insurers who you claim are enjoying "lavish" profits (Aetna, Cigna and Anthem). They are reporting Returns on Equity in the 11 to 13% range and show decreases in earnings in the last quarter, year over year. I don't know if you are able to read a balance sheet or income statement, but those are rather ho-hum ROE's and certainly not "thievish" if we are discussing factual data rather than hyper-rhetoric of the left. I'd appreciate your comment on this factual information.

The sad fact is that many readers of the Sun-Journal will believe your statement as factual, when there is no basis in fact for your allegation. Too bad, because they are going to be victimized by a writer who is claiming that people are being misled by those mean old Republican lobbyists. But, they snooze and they will lose.

2. I'll bet a number of labor union trust funds and public employee retirement funds have invested in Cigna, Anthem and Aetna. Their purple shirted thugs have roughed up the "frothing" protestors, but are pocketing dividends from the very villians they rail about in the person of Barack Obama. Again, LOL.

3. The Obama mantra, now duly repeated by you, about "you can keep your private insurance if you want to" is particularly disingenuous, to be charitable. The take over of the insurance industry will jack private insurance rates right out of sight, forcing them to exit the business. In a few years, there will be no private insurance available. Obama knows this, and is counting on the masses to by it. How sad. But again, people get the government they deserve.

4. As far as this being an organized effort by protestors, surely you jest. I have seen pictures of reconstructed clunker pick up trucks with signs of protestors on it. At the same rally in Portsmouth, pro-Obama union types were bussed in with air conditioned coaches. LOL. Please, be honest with us.

I enjoyed your comments. Keep them coming.

All the best,

Bob Stone
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Good morning, dr.

Good morning, dr. dosh...

Why the name calling? Can't we have a thoughtful, factual debate?

All the best,

Bob Stone
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Good afternoon tron, I enjoy

Good afternoon tron,

I enjoy this blog. As a working stiff, and a "right wing ideologue" unenrolled voter, I won't have the time to follow the blog during the day when the next work week rolls around. I'll miss the interchange.

Is that the "class card" you are pulling out, tron? I think that is getting old, and bears little resemblance to rationality, but we know all about rationality and politics. My observation of the Maine Democrat Party is that it has no shortage of very well-healed good Democrats. Stephen King, Peter Vigue (Cianbro), John Orestis, Kevin Mattson, Severin Beliveau, just about every Portland attorney, are no pikers and very successful business types. Cruise around the parking lot at the Democrat convention and take a look at the vehicles if you need furhter support.

And good for the Democrats. It is nice to have such support for party objectives.

I find it curious your mention of Republicans "able to simply buy elected office, since they had access to more money." Really? Could you cite a factual basis to buying an office? By my recollection, Democrats have dominated Maine elections for nearly 40 years. Perhaps you and Jon Albrecht can collaborate on the name of the corporation that bought a governorship. Best of luck.

Oh, yes. I found your statement "just look at the hordes of people running for the Republican gubenarorial nomination" quite interesting. At noon, a check of the State Ethics website had the following individuals registered to run for Governor in 2010:

1. 4 unenrolled
2. 6 Democrats
3. 5 Republicans
4. 2 Greens

Some would doubt what you say, given the facts.

Enjoy the day.

All the best,

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Good morning, Jon... I see

Good morning, Jon...

I see you are back to the labeling again. You share something in common with the Sun-Journal editorial board of 2002, who labeled me a "right wing idealogue" who wouldn't play nice in Augusta. That wasn't very nice, but such is life in Maine politics.

After reading your letters and posts, I wear the label "right winger" as a badge of honor. It is good that there are right wingers out there, questioning the status quo in Maine and nationally. It is good that there are left wingers and "moderates" out there.

I appreciate the writings of Judge Learned Hand. He wrote: "The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right; the spirit of liberty is the spirit which seeks to understand the minds of other men and women...."

I really don't know if I am right or wrong, but I believe what I believe. Time and history will tell.

Could you please tell us what corporation "bought" the Maine governorship.

All the best,

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tron... Let me make it a

tron...

Let me make it a little clearer for you, "tron". As long as CE exists, a candidate would have to have rocks in his/her head to run as a privately funded candidate. Why would anyone want to raise $20,000 and have their opponent(s) sit there and be handed $20,000 and do absolutely nothing other than raise some seed money

Furthermore, if the fund raising went really well, and the privately funded candidate raised $40,000, then the opponents would be handed another $20,000 as matching funds if he/she/they were running as CE candidates.

My opponent ran as a CE candidate.

Perhaps you, a highly principled individual, would run under those conditions. I didn't play that game, because it is unfair.

I would have voted to repeal the law even though I made use of the funding to run. I see no hypocrisy, only common sense.

All the best,

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tron... Let me make it a

tron...

Let me make it a little clearer for you, "tron". As long as CE exists, a candidate would have to have rocks in his/her head to run as a privately funded candidate. Why would anyone want to raise $20,000 and have their opponent(s) sit there and be handed $20,000 and do absolutely nothing other than raise some seed money

Furthermore, if the fund raising went really well, and the privately funded candidate raised $40,000, then the opponents would be handed another $20,000 as matching funds if he/she/they were running as CE candidates.

My opponent ran as a CE candidate.

Perhaps you, a highly principled individual, would run under those conditions. I didn't play that game, because it is unfair.

I would have voted to repeal the law even though I made use of the funding to run. I see no hypocrisy, only common sense.

All the best,

Bob Stone

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I ran for state senate in

I ran for state senate in 2002 and used Clean Election funds. I think I can lend a candidates view on Clean Election funding.

As long as Maine Clean Election Funding exists, a candidate would be foolish not to use CE funds. For the state senate, there is $20,000 of taxpayer provided funds just for the asking. If you decide to use your own money and/or raise more than the CE limit, your opponent(s) is provided matching taxpayer funds. A privately funded campaign is noble, but foolish as time could be better spent knocking on doors.

I can understand why a local newspaper likes CE funding. It helps candidates purchase many column inches of newspaper ads. Why wouldn't the Lewiston Sun-Journal be in favor of more advertising? The Costello family isn't running the paper as a recreational pursuit and nobody should blame the paper for supporting CE.

I would like to see CE terminated.

1. It draws some unsavory, shady elements who see a large pool of money there for the taking. While the agency overseeing the process, the Ethics commission, does a fine job of monitoring the CE program, there are just too many "consultants" perched on the telephone lines, just waiting to swoop in and make a killing. The Hartford candidate illustrated how the program can be "gamed". It lingers to this day, no?

2. With all due respect, there are scores of people in the Maine legislature who would find it impossible to raise funds in support of their campaign. Fund raising requires savvy, organization and work, as well as a "platform" that people with disposable income are willing to support. I think the make up of the Maine legislature would be quite different today if CE didn't exist. I'd like to see a legislature made up of people that have worked a plan to get elected.

3. Generally, there isn't enough "skin in the game" in Maine politics. People need to be more heavily invested in what transpires in Augusta. When people have to dig deep to support a candidate, they would tend to understand what their candidate actually stands for.

These, however, are rational points and I now realize that politics, especially Maine politics, is not a rational world. We are all diminished as a result.

Oh, by the way, I was killed, 70% to 30%, in 2002 election. I ran on a platform of lower taxes and less state spending. People wanted more taxes and more state spending. That they got...in spades.

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Jon... Thanks for getting

Jon...

Thanks for getting back to me but you didn't really answer my questions posed earlier today. You simply repeated the allegation that the JP Morgan research and "plot" has controlled the activities of the Republican Party "ever since" 1933.

You can believe, obviously, what you want to believe but, when discussing your beliefs in public, you might find that rational humans might take a different opinion.

1. I see no indication that Republicans feel that one race is superior over others.
2. I see no autocratic governments. The Executive Branch, Judicial Branch and Legislative Branch have existed continuously since 1933.
3. I know of no Republican "dictators" in the time period 1933-2009.
4. I know of no forcible repression of opposition. In fact, the closest I can recall are the Nisei Camps during WWII (FDR was a Democrat) and Chicago in 1968 (Johnson was a Democrat).

These are some of the elements required to meet the Webster's definition. I would be interested in your backing up your most serious allegations of fascism.

I would add that some of the strongest Democrat supporters are very much business savvy. Gates. Soros. Rubin. Others come to mind but are too numerous to mention. So, to attempt to draw a connection of "business interest" to "fascism" is a bit of a Hail Mary, to use the vernacular of the day.

That being said, I enjoy the interchange and appreciate the opportunity to peer into the mind of an ardent Democrat.

All the best,

Bob

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Jon from Dixfield... As I am

Jon from Dixfield...

As I am on vacation this week, I've had the time to ponder your postings on this "blog." I was moved to do a search on the word "fascist", which you toss around like yesterday's laundry. Let's examine the Merriam-Webster definition:

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

The Webster's definition leaves me with several thoughts.

1. You really don't know what "fascism" is, if you accept the Webster's definition of the term.

2. You have your own defintion of the term that the rest of the world is not aware of.

Could you share with us how, given the Webster's definition of the term, how the GOP is "fascist?" Break down the Webster's definition, phrase by phrase, and show us how the GOP has been fascist "since 1933." I'll take it as a "teachable moment."w

You see, Jon, "fascism" is a heavy, meaningful, word for me. My uncle and my namesake was killed fighting fascists in 1944 in some God foresaken forest in Eastern France. I never met the man, he was a 21 year old platoon leader, just another guy from Lewiston who never saw the things you take for granted. But to use the term, publicly, liberally, and repeatedly moves me to ask, for my uncle, just what the devil are you thinking about?

All the best,

Bob

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We live in a representative

We live in a representative democracy. Voters elect representatives at every level of government in the United States. I believe in that system.

I take the good with the bad and accept the fact that people get the government they deserve. I may not think that Barack Obama is, and will be, a positive leader for the United States, but he is the duly elected President and we shall see how he does. People that dissent from his practices have every right to do so and should not be called names such as "angry mobs", "nazi's" and "un-American."

Our Congressional delegation from Maine is precisely what the voters of Maine want to represent us in D.C. I don't agree with them but accept it as the will of the voters. Pingree is a liberal Democrat, ran as such, and is what she is. Michaud is a liberal Democrat, ran as a "Blue Dog", and isn't what he says he is. He is, however, clearly in the back pocket of the unions.

Snowe and Collins are "Republicans". They can be counted on to support the Democrats and aren't what they say they are. They are pragmatists, and understand how they have to vote to win re-election to represent the most liberal state in the nation, Maine.

At the state level, we have a long history of sending spenders to Augusta. After decades of overwhelming Democrat representation in Augusta, I'll leave it up to the reader to decide how they've helped bring prosperity to one of the poorest states in the nation. Maine is old and poor, statistically, and our young people are voting with their feet.

That brings us to Lewiston and Auburn. I am not in favor of referendums. I am not in favor of special commissions. I am in favor of demanding that our elected representatives decide whether or not to merge the two communities. If they decide that it is something we should have (a merger), then so be it.

We voters should ask the people running for Mayor and council(s) if they would vote to support a merger. It is our responsibilty as voting citizens. Then, we should vote according to our own wishes as to whom we want to represent them.

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Veritas... You are correct.

Veritas...

You are correct. I was referring to federal income tax. 45% of American households pay zero federal income tax.

All the best,

Bob

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Jon... "They pursue policies

Jon...

"They pursue policies which are absolutely consistent with capitalism."

This is probably most interesting statement I've read in a while.

Thanks for sharing.

All the best,

Bob

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Joe... Thanks for the

Joe...

Thanks for the comments on my post.

I'd suggest that you remember the saying "Paragraphs are our friends." It would make your comments much easier to follow. Do as you please, however. Three sentence paragraphs make for great reading.

Let me comment on your post, to the extent that I could understand it before getting lost in your grammar.

"Wrong Stone..." My post will be seen as "wrong" to some and "right" to others. We know where you stand. Thank you. I'm willing to understand that people have markedly different worldviews. Time will tell how things work out, no?

"NASB" closure..." The informed reader will remember that the closure was recommended by the Base Closure Commission. It is accepted, or rejected, as a whole, by the President. My opinion on military bases is that we have far too many overseas and should operate as many as possible in the United States. I think that we need to rethink our force structure in this age of assymetric warfare. Air carrier task forces can project force, if needed, quite rapidly anywhere in the world. And we have the demonstrated capability to move considerable personnel and support equipment in a hurry, as demonstrated by Kuwait and Iraq ramp ups.

Other than that, could you please translate?

All the best,

Bob

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Publik... Why resort to the

Publik...

Why resort to the profanity and name calling?

Bob Stone

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Jon Albrecht... I don't know

Jon Albrecht...

I don't know who you are but I find your name calling quite offensive.

It cheapens your comments... I feel sorry for you.

Bob Stone

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1. Another month goes by,

1. Another month goes by, and we hear from Mr. Duncan again. Like sands in the hourglass... In a bit, we should be enlightened by a letter from his sidekick, Mr. Tardif.

2. Mr. Duncan's letter this month is long on hyperbole, short on facts. I am not surprised, as Bush Derangement syndrome effects are long lasting.

3. What constitutional protections did Bush attack? Not defined. Maybe it was listening to phone chatter between known terrorist connections stateside and their buddies in the Mideast? Maybe it was the treatment of captured terrorists, all of whom are trying to kill Americans and none of whom were American citizens? I'll bet that the Obama team hasn't changed a thing on both of these points. Where is Duncan's outrage?

4. Bush and the Republicans did a poor job in many respects. I, for one, am a former Republican but I decided to leave the GOP over 2 years ago because I was so upset with the spending and general mismanagement of "moderate" senators like Spector, Snowe and Collins. So, no, not all Republicans followed Bush over the cliff. There are a number of Republicans who hold their nose when talking about Snowe, Collins, Graham and the rest of the so-called spenders. You won't find many Republicans holding signs stating "I Trust Obama" such as the one spotted in Portsmouth yesterday at the Obama photo op.

5. The top 1% of American taxpayers pay the same amount of Federal Income Tax that the next 95% pay. Nearly half of Americans pay nothing. Since tax cutting is a macro economic tool, where else but in the top tax payers could Bush cut? I would submit that you cannot cut from zero. I am far from being in the top 1%, and I am pretty tired of carrying 45% of America around on my back. How about helping out a bit, folks?

6. OK, if the Bush "wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan were mistakes, why is Obama continuing them? What's preventing Obama from pulling the guys out and coming home? I am getting so tired of Obama's wars.

7. Perhaps the most outlandish claim that Mr. Duncan makes is that conservative Republicans bankrupted state governments. He doesn't live far from Augusta, and, the last I knew, there were very few conservative Republicans in the Maine legislature. The destruction of jobs and prosperity in Maine is totally the handiwork of liberal Democrats, who are voted in, time and time again, by Maine's voters. There is nowhere to run and hide from this fact. We've sent people to Augusta to wreak havoc, and they've done a great job of doing just that. People get the government they deserve.

So much for Mr. Duncan's points. Wonderful Kool-Aid, but not much in the way of substance.

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While I do not support the

While I do not support the repeal effort (but rather support spending the time, money and energy replacing people like Rotundo, Craven, Wagner, Simpson, Sirois, all of whom voted for the bill in the first place), I think many Mainers are going to be surprised when they file their state income taxes next year.

The top Maine income tax payers will see a major reduction in their taxes.

A far greater number of Maine income tax payers will see a major INCREASE in their income taxes next year if this bill is not repealed. If you do the math, as I did, you will see that the elimination of deductions, such as mortgage interest on your home, will wipe out the "reform" given you by your local Democrat legislator. The devil, as always, is in the details.

Out of staters don't pay Maine income tax. You do.

People get the government they deserve. Have fun enjoying all the "reform."

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Showing up at his son's

Showing up at his son's arrest with a recording device. Give me a break. Fixing parking tickets. LOL.

Sad, very sad.

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"tron" and others might want

"tron" and others might want to check the Census Bureau Press Release located at this url to check Dr. Shields' facts.

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/...

It appears as if Obama and the other lefties want to ruin American health care for about 3% of the American people.

Obama and the other lefties want to control you. They could give a hoot about health care. It is all about controlling the lives of the proletariat.

Lewiston-Auburn, you voted for him, so good luck. I wouldn't trust Obama as far as I could throw him.

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This is a pretty simple

This is a pretty simple Federal program...and a disaster.

It requires the dealers to destroy the engine. From a New York Times article:

The program requires that the clunkers be put out of service for good, so dealers must destroy the engines on cars that are traded in. We watched this process yesterday at the DCH Paramus Honda in Paramus, N.J. It is quite laborious and potentially dangerous. And it certainly is final.

Nick Clites, who is in charge of used cars for the dealership, was prepping a 1988 BMW 535IS, with 214,000 miles on the odometer, for its death. He drained the oil, then donned a silky blue protective suit, goggles and gloves and poured a sodium silicate solution into the engine. He revved the car, and within a few seconds, the solution hardened into a glass-like substance, the engine seized up and the car was dead.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/dealers-race-to-get-their-cl...

Why not sell these "clunkers" to people who might be able to get a little more use out of them?

If they run a scrappage program like this, imagine health care.

Summarizing the symptoms emblematic of the smartest Presidential Administration in our lifetime:

1) Capital destruction
2) destruction of a commercial market
3) destruction of asset value
4) “The Europeans do it so it must be good!”; I’d wager that the Europeans only do it for cars made on the continent
5) over management, micro-management: the forms for executing one deal run to twenty pages
6) general mis-management

Next up: Health Care Management for All!! What could go wrong? They mean well.

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5:53 PM Mr.

5:53 PM

Mr. Thistle...

Thanks for all the info. I am sure that others will sort all of this out. I don't have a dog in the fight. It is interesting to observe however. I know that back in the days of the late, great Frank Kelly, he was very careful of getting too many councilors together at politically oriented meetings.

Bob Stone
Auburn, ME

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How many councilors can go

How many councilors can go without it being an official meeting?

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Bob, I think you are off the

Bob, I think you are off the mark on this one. Tom can organize anything he wants to. Political activity is good for Lewiston. The more the merrier.

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It's about time. Lewiston

It's about time. Lewiston voters supply 4 or 5 certain votes for Democrat "programs" every two years. It will be good that the true believers will be spreading their cash around the Twin Cities.

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Dreaming of tree-lined

Dreaming of tree-lined streets, the extinction of litter, smooth pavement, criminals in jail, people thinking that they have some pride-of-place, traffic jams from 7 to 8 and 4 to 5 as people go to and from work, parking garages filled to capacity, graffiti a memory like 33 rpm records are, corner stores thriving...oooh la la!

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I don't live in Lewiston any

I don't live in Lewiston any longer but work in downtown Lewiston every business day. I lived in Lewiston, was schooled in Lewiston and have worked in Lewiston for most of my life.

In the 1990's, I was a part of a group of Lewiston and Auburn residents that led the effort to re-develop the Bates Mill Complex. There are now in excess of 1,000 people gainfully employed in that Complex. At the time we started the effort, the roofs were literally caving in.

Fast forward a decade and more, and we find that Mill 5 is older and never farther away from adaptive re-use.

Jonathan Labonte and Tony Ronzio should be commended for considering the options available to downtown Lewiston. We may not agree, but there needs to be a whole lot of thinking going into the future of downtown. It it needs to be truly transformative thinking.

I wish Don Harward hadn't retired and moved away. LA Excels was on the right track as an L-A think tank, at the very least.

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1. I would like to

1. I would like to congratulate Tony and the Sun-Journal for the viditorial concept. While I might not agree with the Sun-Journal's positions to a large extent, I think the concept is well thought out and informative.

2. The Ronzio-Labonte discussion was the finest local news piece I've viewed in a long time. Very thought provoking.

3. I think that Mill 5 has to come down. The sooner the better. It is a fire hazard. I witnessed it igniting during the Cowan Mill fire and it was very clear to me that the entire Bates Mill Complex and a large section of Lisbon Street was in dire straights for a few minutes. If not for the work of our local fire departments, we would have lost a large section of downtown Lewiston that afternoon.

Many of the people bemoaning the loss of Mill 5 were not around or are oblivious to the New Auburn fire on 1933. In one afternoon, most of New Auburn was wiped out. It can, and does happen. Mills 1, 2, 3 and 6 would have been nothing but kindling in the face of even a roof fire on Mill 5.

I worked in those mills and they are fire traps. Yes, there is a much cement in the support structure, but there are flammables in there as well. Hot embers would shower down on other roofs and the fire might stop after it burned through Pepperell Mill complex.

We cannot take the chance.

4. At this point, I think the best course of action is to clean out both Island Point and the Bates Mill sites. Period. Get the sites cleared, take a deep breath, and see what the city scape looks like. Plan from there.

5. I would caution as to relying to a great extent on the taxpayers of the city on developing the sites. Unless the final use of the sites is for a purely public use (parking, parks, city facilities), the private sector and private capital is the safest bet for meaningful development.

6. A reminder: We are in a deep recession. There is a good chance that it will be a long time before the level of economic activity even begins to recover. Lewiston should think long and hard before jumping to grab at "something" to say "we are doing something"

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I congratulate Michael on

I congratulate Michael on his decision to run. It will be exciting and a learning experience for him. I wish him well. I have seen him in the audience, patiently learning, while city council meetings drone on and on.

The position of Mayor of the City of Lewiston is a good one for a young adult like Dumas. He will have three functions: 1. Chair the city council meetings. 2. Vote to break ties on the council. 3. Attend ribbon cuttings, grand openings, etc. as the face of the city. He will also have access to the media by virtue of his position.

I hope that the Sun-Journal mentions the ages of any other candidates that run for office. While it is great that we know that Dumas is 24, we need to know how old Paradis and any other entrants are as well, apparently.

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How about we take a

How about we take a collective break from plowing taxpayer money we don't have into real estate ventures. How about letting private investors determine what is economically viable and what isn't?

We are always quick to call for government to get involved in "redeveloping this and that." Solid, durable development occurs when the private capital is invested.

Benjamin Bates led a group of Boston investors to build the canals and the mills back in the 19th century. 100% private cash. For years, the canals and the mills provided a return on investment, in turn employing thousands and supporting commerce and residential real estate investment. Lewiston and Auburn flourished at the shoulders of "Twenty Mile Falls."

Repair our roads, keep us safe from criminals, provide an excellent education in core competencies (reading, writing and math) and let the keep our environment clean. Let private investment lead the way.

This state is in serious financial trouble, and we are in no shape to do other than the basics to care for the high percentage of people who have decided, for whatever reason, that the cannot or won't pitch in an help a dwindling number of taxpayers.

Private investment is the way out of this. If the private investors aren't willing to lead the way on these dreams, then the project isn't worth doing.

I do like Jonathan's vision. More people need to think about Lewiston's future. But let's be cognizant of the fact that we cannot depend on government to spend precious taxpayer money on projects that look nice but have little economic value.

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They have already said they

They have already said they wouldn't give up their plan.

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We want to change "health

We want to change "health care", but we want to leave many aspects of our life alone. We want to have a portion of our population paying for everyone's medical care. We want to continue to permit people to spend their precious few dollars on booze, chips n' dip, hamburgers and hot dogs, but we exact no financial "down payment' from them to cover the inevitable medical care that looms in front of them as the result of this self-destructive behavior and life choices.

Things work better when participants in any activity have some of their "skin in the game." (We are finding out all about this concept with all the liar loans and financed mortgaged loan down payments, aren't we?) Want the chips? Pay a tax that helps pay for all of the "free" healthcare you are going to need. Don't want to exercise (as in walk around the block)? Pay into the fund.

I doubt that Obamacare is designed to do more than soak the rich and create huge masses of Federal employee union members. Until Americans, all Americans, are willing to put some skin in the game, "free" healthcare isn't going to work.