This could open the door for much bigger things than a park and ride. Amtrak route coming through Lisbon to a station at this location? Commuter Park and Ride for people traveling to work IN Lewiston? Shuttle bus, or even future light passenger rail service into the downtown?
Good Luck Nick and Greg. Good to see more local young folks making a difference. I'll have to check out the new spot. Hopefully when the business is thriving you can open a second location downtown Lewiston!
With Thursday nights scheduled.. i'd be very surprised to see 2000. Historically the Maineiacs in a good year, prior to the holidays, never drew much more than 1800 on a weekday. If the quality and product are good... the later dates.. January and Feb etc. may draw more.
I'd gladly be "strung along", as you put it, for another season next year. This was the most exciting hockey i've ever seen in my life, and next year was setting up to be a Championship season. The difference between me and you is that I actually went to the games, supported the team and our Community, knew the players, coaches, management, staff and billets personally, met great friends I wouldn't have met otherwise and enjoyed watching the best 15-20 year old hockey players in the world. Where the basis for your comments come from, i'm not sure.
Linc mentioned to us the "leaky bathtub" portions relate more to the old gates and such as opposed to the actual stone canal walls. I think this canal transformation will be a touchy situation given the tight budgets and spending recently and we'll see what type of funding can be leveraged to help "beautify" the canals. But this first step is to gain ownership of the canals, not to fix them up to be an attraction just yet. That will prob come years down the road. We saw lot's of numbers at the meeting last night, but i'd really like to see some more detailed breakdowns of some future anticipated costs. We saw alot of, if we do this then we won't incur this but will still pay this until then but won't have to worry about paying for this or owe that but will lose this.. I just need to see it all on one sheet clearly broken down. Surrendering our FERC rights is serious business, and something I don't believe we can ever get back. Also, surrendering rights to approx. 2/3 of our current CFS flow is another thing we can never get back. I think this can work, it just needs to be thought through completely, and will all information clearly presented to everyone involved.
In 10 years I hope i can bring my children downtown to a "waterfire" type event like they have in Providence or Richmond.. There's alot of possibility, but also alot of margin for error.
Great job Kevin and Gabrielle! Hopefully more people will follow suit and realize the great potential in a Lower Lisbon Street revitalization. The ball has been slowly rolling for about 5 years now.. hopefully it continues to gain momentum.
And to Scott, the "intern architect" moniker doesn't mean an architectural professional is a student, only that they are yet to complete taking the years of tests it takes to be a registered Architect. Both Kevin and Gabby hold 'Masters in Architecture' Degrees.
As a planning board member, none of this is really debatable. By law they’re allowed to build a mosque there. Do I think it’s a good idea, no. But can they legally do it. Yes. Let’s move on.
Not everything is about democrat or republican, blue and red, blah blah blah. Stop wasting your breath and our time writing pointless crap about the past and help us shape the future.
Fix it.. I don't know who you are.. because you hide behind a lame screen name, but everything you point out is incorrect. So feel free to email me epotvin@harriman.com so i can educate you on Mill no 5.
And lets not detract from the real story here, a young apiring businessman choosing Lewiston to venture in his dream.
All the best to you Mr. Livingston. Let me know when the IPA is ready!
Isn't that what we spend half of our monday's doing thinkingman?? Have patience, have optimism, have an IPA and sit back on the Gritty's deck and see the vast potential we have in front of us.
wounldn't it make sense to always have a camera behind the cash facing the counter.. that way you always get thier face instead of the back of thier heads.
So if the building is so unsafe, don't you think they'd be a little nervous insurance wise about having Museum LA in there moving things around with a fork lift.
And its called "spalling"
Spackling is used in college when your drunk buddy get put through a wall.
Half of what you say is either poor grammar, or just plain doesn't make any sense. The same people that designed Lisbon Street?? What does that even mean? Benjamin Bates? He died 130 years ago.. should we ask him? Business left a long time ago from Lisbon Street, and for reasons not nearly associated to anything relating to this article.
Who helped save the Mill, well for one, I did, and that's probably a hell of a lot more than you've done sitting at your computer complaining in the past 5 years.
Concrete falling from the ceiling and City cover-ups?? Have you ever been in there? Because I have, multiple times, and that is certainly not the case.
Perhaps if you knew an ounce about what you were talking about I could take you seriously, until then, get outside, get involved, and stop spewing nonsense.
The real problem lies in the local zoning's code's 'off street parking and loading' ordinance, which the City uses as its parking Bible. It is outdated and excessive. It needs to be re-written. All across the country cities are trending towards lowering off street parking demands and encouraging satellite parking, light rail and alternate modes of transportation, as well as shared parking; i.e. a parking garage with 300 spaces for Bates Mill workers could be counted twice in a parking count if it also served 300 residential condo residents since they would be using it on opposite schedules.
The City needs to think outside the box and draw examples from other successful municipalities.
Your ignorance to the whole situation is reflected multiple times in your negative rambling above... I won't tear it apart line by line... i'll just summarize by saying your completely wrong in every aspect of thought.
"Hypocrisy and secrecy in City Hall".. does seem to be a bit ridiculous... It's too bad there isn't some sort of clause that allows newly elected officials to attend exec. sessions if the council deems it appropriate.. As Bob says above.. it is only to help get the new council up to speed.. i can't see how that hurts anyone.. Didn't the U.S. gov't bring Obama up to speed on a few things shortly after he was elected. but before he took oath? Entirely different circumstance i admit, but similar nonetheless.
"were given a host of reasons why it cannot be done"... exactly.. when somebody says something can't be done.. they're lying.. It's either too expensive, they don't want to do it, or they don't know how to do it.
Reversing Pine is interesting.. the problem may come when you have to in turn reverse Ash as well. Now your 5-corner intersection at Sabattus/ Webster/ Central becomes a true 5-way interesction. That light is already probably the worst in the city, and this certainly wouldn't help. I'm not saying it can't be done correctly (because i'd be lying) but that to me is a major roadblock in the idea.. (pun intended) Maybe a roundabout is needed there..
I've always thought getting rid of traffic on lower Canal Street from Main over to Chestnut or even Cedar would be a good idea. Then you can make it a pedestrian walk and encourage business to open storefronts on the Canal Street side of the canal where it's currently barren parking lots. Imagine a Canal Walk with new storefronts in the existing Mills and new storefronts across the canal on Canal Street.
Public Meeting for L/A residents provides forum for State Rail Plan
AUGUSTA - In order to determine where and how to best make passenger and freight rail investments over the next ten-years, the Maine Department of Transportation (MaineDOT) is developing the Maine State Rail Plan, an analysis into the state rail system's strengths, weaknesses and opportunities. An upcoming October 22 public meeting in Lewiston will allow L/A area residents to help with the analysis by providing their thoughts on two important questions:
1. What are the most pressing statewide and regional rail issues and barriers over the next five to ten years?
2. What criteria should Maine use to prioritize rail investments?
The public meeting will take place at Callahan Hall at the Lewiston Public Library on Thursday, October 22 from 6-8 pm.
Questions regarding the meeting may be directed to Carol Morris, Public Outreach, at cmorris@morriscomm.net or 207-329-6502.
In addition to soliciting information from the public, MaineDOT is working with a 30-member Technical Advisory Committee to gather information on current infrastructure needs and identify trends and opportunities. A study website is linked to the MaineDOT home page - and can also be found by going directly to www.maine.gov/mdot/railplan/index.htm. The public can also provide comments via the web site. As study data is gathered, it will be posted on the site, giving the public ongoing information into the study process and findings.
In addition to hearing from stakeholders, Nate Moulton, MaineDOT Rail Plan Project Manager, sees development of the plan as a way to provide insight into the challenge of making transportation decisions. "We all know that today's economy means making difficult decisions and trade-offs," he said. "Funding for maintaining and operating an efficient passenger and freight rail system is very complex, and this study will be a great way to make this aspect of transportation planning part of the public dialogue."
The State Rail Plan is scheduled to be completed early in 2010.
I think it's an excellent idea. Having recieved my architecture degree in Boston, we often did similar projects involving real life sites and scenarios. For these students to get involved with an area of great untapped potential such as the future "waterfront district" of Lewiston can only have a positive effect in thier schooling, and for our community. JohnnyP, while you seem all to eager to dismiss any positive impact this type of project may have, i'll be quick to disagree. While practiacally speaking, an architecture student's work may not sastify all the strict regulations, political agendas and 'red tape' that come with a real life community master plan, thier unbiased and non-politically influenced ideas may shed light on new, out of the box thinking, that others living here may not have thought of.
Not a fan of all his jabs at the "left", but overall a very funny well written article. Made me laugh. We should still be concerned about global warming and cutting down on pollution.. however Jonah makes some good arguements..
I think Lewiston Government needs it's own reality show.. you head out of town for a day, or are buried at work and it takes hours just to catch up on all the action. The Bennett saga, the Council, the Mayor's race... but most interestingly.. all the comments on the SJ site. It'd be nice to sit down on the couch at 8pm with a beer and get caught up in a 1/2 hour reailty-show-style recap. Maybe Great Falls TV can hook it up..
also.. if you go to Morin brick, he takes the rejects from the brickmaking process and crushes them to use as a sort of gravel/crushed rock type pathway/driveway. He also uses the same stuff instead of mulch in his plant beds.. in both cases oddly enough it actually looks really good.
I agree.. before they get thrown out.. patio, bbq pit.. all good ideas.. plus its a part of history and your bbq pit would have a story to tell. I'm not sure the impact of lead paint in a bbq fireplace though.. i can't imagine its a good thing.
For a long time i've been a proponant of knocking down the Mill 5 building. I attended many workshops and meetings in years past on the Mill, have read the whole Mill no. 5 report (all 400+ pages), the Bates Mill Master Plan, the 09' City Of Lewiston Strategic Plan, L/A Excels and on and on and on..
When the Cowan fire happened, i think i changed my stance. Now I agree that the "Island Point" site should be developed first and maybe Mill 5 should sit for a while. I do feel the Mill 5 site is extremely valuable cleared completely.. but we already know that it won't be cleared.. Even if Mill 5 comes down. The council has already approved (a huge mistake in my opinion) a parking garage off Lincoln on that lower part of the site. WHY IS A GARAGE GOING THERE? Perhaps with the recent developments (Cowan Fire) this garage location should be re-thought.
Mr. Reed, yes i agree if the Mill caught fire it would be a disaster, but wouldn't that be true of nearly any building in that area? We just have to trust that the idiots that set the first one are caught and that doesn't happen again.
As for the failing concrete.. yes there is some spalling, and a few spots need work, but overall the building is in remarkable condition for its age.. i'm not sure what report you read.
Finally, whether the Mill stays or goes, the most important point is that real URBAN PLANNING and visioning takes place, not piece-meal turn a quick buck development.
These sites can make or break the future of L/A.. hopefully with prudent planning it won't be the latter.
Publikwerks said " The videotorials seem kinda silly"
Seriously? Another medium through which to generate conversation and get people thinking. Thats silly? I think anything that will get all of us discussing the future of OUR "Twin Cities" (yes i consider them one place) is alright in my book. I commend everyone for taking the time to post thier opinions on here, whether i agree with them or not. However, "Publikwerks" i do agree with Mr. Labonte that you shouldn't hide behind some ridiculous screen name... Publikwerks? What is that.. a poor attempt at a play on words? Your grafitti callsign? Public works is how it's correctly spelled... This is a forum to discuss opinions to better our community, not a building on which to spray paint your negativity.
I couldn't agree more Bob.. being mayor hardly entails "running the city" as PW states below.. we had a guy that did that just fine.. oh wait.. thats right, they fired him..
"As an elected official on a county level, Mr. Labonte would have done more service to his community by writing a more inspired piece to show the people that we could move forward and he wished to be part of theat moving forward."
So tell me Mr. Reed.. where is your inspiration to your constituents?
On nearly a daily basis for the past two years i've read nothing but negativaty below your name in your comments.
So what's your vision to move forward? Ah yes.. you do not have one.. that's another "grey area" for you isn't it.
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Hey Negative Nancy.. the
Hey Negative Nancy.. the prices are good and the food is excellent.
The possibilities..
Great job Bob!
This could open the door for much bigger things than a park and ride. Amtrak route coming through Lisbon to a station at this location? Commuter Park and Ride for people traveling to work IN Lewiston? Shuttle bus, or even future light passenger rail service into the downtown?
This is very positive news.
Good Luck
Good Luck Nick and Greg. Good to see more local young folks making a difference. I'll have to check out the new spot. Hopefully when the business is thriving you can open a second location downtown Lewiston!
agree
With Thursday nights scheduled.. i'd be very surprised to see 2000. Historically the Maineiacs in a good year, prior to the holidays, never drew much more than 1800 on a weekday. If the quality and product are good... the later dates.. January and Feb etc. may draw more.
Tickets are $10
Tickets for tommorrow night are $10. If your a fan of hockey, show up and check it out.. Otherwise... quit-chya bitchin'.
Tron
I'd gladly be "strung along", as you put it, for another season next year. This was the most exciting hockey i've ever seen in my life, and next year was setting up to be a Championship season. The difference between me and you is that I actually went to the games, supported the team and our Community, knew the players, coaches, management, staff and billets personally, met great friends I wouldn't have met otherwise and enjoyed watching the best 15-20 year old hockey players in the world. Where the basis for your comments come from, i'm not sure.
suckers???
Lou and Dan,
Clearly you have no clue what you are talking about and aren't true hockey fans.
I'm personnally embarrassed by your comments.
You should be too.
Go Bruins.
"leaky bathtub"
Linc mentioned to us the "leaky bathtub" portions relate more to the old gates and such as opposed to the actual stone canal walls. I think this canal transformation will be a touchy situation given the tight budgets and spending recently and we'll see what type of funding can be leveraged to help "beautify" the canals. But this first step is to gain ownership of the canals, not to fix them up to be an attraction just yet. That will prob come years down the road. We saw lot's of numbers at the meeting last night, but i'd really like to see some more detailed breakdowns of some future anticipated costs. We saw alot of, if we do this then we won't incur this but will still pay this until then but won't have to worry about paying for this or owe that but will lose this.. I just need to see it all on one sheet clearly broken down. Surrendering our FERC rights is serious business, and something I don't believe we can ever get back. Also, surrendering rights to approx. 2/3 of our current CFS flow is another thing we can never get back. I think this can work, it just needs to be thought through completely, and will all information clearly presented to everyone involved.
In 10 years I hope i can bring my children downtown to a "waterfire" type event like they have in Providence or Richmond.. There's alot of possibility, but also alot of margin for error.
Clueless
Some people just don't get it...
Great Job!
Great job Kevin and Gabrielle! Hopefully more people will follow suit and realize the great potential in a Lower Lisbon Street revitalization. The ball has been slowly rolling for about 5 years now.. hopefully it continues to gain momentum.
And to Scott, the "intern architect" moniker doesn't mean an architectural professional is a student, only that they are yet to complete taking the years of tests it takes to be a registered Architect. Both Kevin and Gabby hold 'Masters in Architecture' Degrees.
to each his own..
I've read your comment 4 times and can't see the point of it either..
haha
the chuck a puck thing sounds great.. Call it "chuck a puck, hit a scmuck, and win a buck"
Or you could just hockey tape them to the nets and fire slapshots..
Go Maineaics!
human centipede
I'd settle for some good olde fashoined town square humiliation. Bring back the stocks, or pillory..
Doesn't matter..
As a planning board member, none of this is really debatable. By law they’re allowed to build a mosque there. Do I think it’s a good idea, no. But can they legally do it. Yes. Let’s move on.
trythinkingman
Not everything is about democrat or republican, blue and red, blah blah blah. Stop wasting your breath and our time writing pointless crap about the past and help us shape the future.
fixit
Fix it.. I don't know who you are.. because you hide behind a lame screen name, but everything you point out is incorrect. So feel free to email me epotvin@harriman.com so i can educate you on Mill no 5.
And lets not detract from the real story here, a young apiring businessman choosing Lewiston to venture in his dream.
All the best to you Mr. Livingston. Let me know when the IPA is ready!
alright
Fair enough. Time for us to get to work then.
build it and they will come..
Isn't that what we spend half of our monday's doing thinkingman?? Have patience, have optimism, have an IPA and sit back on the Gritty's deck and see the vast potential we have in front of us.
scottie scottie scottie..
"So what exactly is attractive about downtown Lewiston?"
It's not only about "exactly what is".. but also about what could be. Let's put the last 30 years behind us where they belong and look forward.
video
wounldn't it make sense to always have a camera behind the cash facing the counter.. that way you always get thier face instead of the back of thier heads.
nope
So if the building is so unsafe, don't you think they'd be a little nervous insurance wise about having Museum LA in there moving things around with a fork lift.
And its called "spalling"
Spackling is used in college when your drunk buddy get put through a wall.
fixit001.. your the idiot..
Half of what you say is either poor grammar, or just plain doesn't make any sense. The same people that designed Lisbon Street?? What does that even mean? Benjamin Bates? He died 130 years ago.. should we ask him? Business left a long time ago from Lisbon Street, and for reasons not nearly associated to anything relating to this article.
Who helped save the Mill, well for one, I did, and that's probably a hell of a lot more than you've done sitting at your computer complaining in the past 5 years.
Concrete falling from the ceiling and City cover-ups?? Have you ever been in there? Because I have, multiple times, and that is certainly not the case.
Perhaps if you knew an ounce about what you were talking about I could take you seriously, until then, get outside, get involved, and stop spewing nonsense.
garage garage everywhere..
The real problem lies in the local zoning's code's 'off street parking and loading' ordinance, which the City uses as its parking Bible. It is outdated and excessive. It needs to be re-written. All across the country cities are trending towards lowering off street parking demands and encouraging satellite parking, light rail and alternate modes of transportation, as well as shared parking; i.e. a parking garage with 300 spaces for Bates Mill workers could be counted twice in a parking count if it also served 300 residential condo residents since they would be using it on opposite schedules.
The City needs to think outside the box and draw examples from other successful municipalities.
Your ignorance to the whole
Your ignorance to the whole situation is reflected multiple times in your negative rambling above... I won't tear it apart line by line... i'll just summarize by saying your completely wrong in every aspect of thought.
"Hypocrisy and secrecy in
"Hypocrisy and secrecy in City Hall".. does seem to be a bit ridiculous... It's too bad there isn't some sort of clause that allows newly elected officials to attend exec. sessions if the council deems it appropriate.. As Bob says above.. it is only to help get the new council up to speed.. i can't see how that hurts anyone.. Didn't the U.S. gov't bring Obama up to speed on a few things shortly after he was elected. but before he took oath? Entirely different circumstance i admit, but similar nonetheless.
Quote: "This is so
Quote: "This is so one-sided, as the Sun Journal always is."
The SJ endorsed a 'Yes' vote.. That shows how much you paid attention now doesn't it.
"were given a host of
"were given a host of reasons why it cannot be done"... exactly.. when somebody says something can't be done.. they're lying.. It's either too expensive, they don't want to do it, or they don't know how to do it.
Reversing Pine is interesting.. the problem may come when you have to in turn reverse Ash as well. Now your 5-corner intersection at Sabattus/ Webster/ Central becomes a true 5-way interesction. That light is already probably the worst in the city, and this certainly wouldn't help. I'm not saying it can't be done correctly (because i'd be lying) but that to me is a major roadblock in the idea.. (pun intended) Maybe a roundabout is needed there..
I've always thought getting rid of traffic on lower Canal Street from Main over to Chestnut or even Cedar would be a good idea. Then you can make it a pedestrian walk and encourage business to open storefronts on the Canal Street side of the canal where it's currently barren parking lots. Imagine a Canal Walk with new storefronts in the existing Mills and new storefronts across the canal on Canal Street.
Woooo wooooo!! (train horn)
Woooo wooooo!! (train horn) Tony... absolutely right! Everyone... get out to the meeting thursday night and voice our opinion!
why I waste my time reading
why I waste my time reading Tron's comments i'll never know..
I thought the video was quite interesting.
its 6-8 pm. Here's the
its 6-8 pm.
Here's the release i recieved the other day......
Public Meeting for L/A residents provides forum for State Rail Plan
AUGUSTA - In order to determine where and how to best make passenger and freight rail investments over the next ten-years, the Maine Department of Transportation (MaineDOT) is developing the Maine State Rail Plan, an analysis into the state rail system's strengths, weaknesses and opportunities. An upcoming October 22 public meeting in Lewiston will allow L/A area residents to help with the analysis by providing their thoughts on two important questions:
1. What are the most pressing statewide and regional rail issues and barriers over the next five to ten years?
2. What criteria should Maine use to prioritize rail investments?
The public meeting will take place at Callahan Hall at the Lewiston Public Library on Thursday, October 22 from 6-8 pm.
Questions regarding the meeting may be directed to Carol Morris, Public Outreach, at cmorris@morriscomm.net or 207-329-6502.
In addition to soliciting information from the public, MaineDOT is working with a 30-member Technical Advisory Committee to gather information on current infrastructure needs and identify trends and opportunities. A study website is linked to the MaineDOT home page - and can also be found by going directly to www.maine.gov/mdot/railplan/index.htm. The public can also provide comments via the web site. As study data is gathered, it will be posted on the site, giving the public ongoing information into the study process and findings.
In addition to hearing from stakeholders, Nate Moulton, MaineDOT Rail Plan Project Manager, sees development of the plan as a way to provide insight into the challenge of making transportation decisions. "We all know that today's economy means making difficult decisions and trade-offs," he said. "Funding for maintaining and operating an efficient passenger and freight rail system is very complex, and this study will be a great way to make this aspect of transportation planning part of the public dialogue."
The State Rail Plan is scheduled to be completed early in 2010.
unfortunatly for any
unfortunatly for any community building a new high school.. $60 million is what it does cost.... there's not really any way to get around that fact.
DR... nobody cares what you
DR... nobody cares what you think.
this is an exciting team to watch.. see everyone at the rink!
what? moss? Do you mean... a
what? moss? Do you mean... a Mosque?
seriously.
I think it's an excellent
I think it's an excellent idea. Having recieved my architecture degree in Boston, we often did similar projects involving real life sites and scenarios. For these students to get involved with an area of great untapped potential such as the future "waterfront district" of Lewiston can only have a positive effect in thier schooling, and for our community. JohnnyP, while you seem all to eager to dismiss any positive impact this type of project may have, i'll be quick to disagree. While practiacally speaking, an architecture student's work may not sastify all the strict regulations, political agendas and 'red tape' that come with a real life community master plan, thier unbiased and non-politically influenced ideas may shed light on new, out of the box thinking, that others living here may not have thought of.
So Johnny P, not funny, think again.
I think somebody is on it
I think somebody is on it now.. i just told an employee.. we can't have people having online heart attacks..
EXTRA EXTRA EXTRA!!! Red Sox
EXTRA EXTRA EXTRA!!!
Red Sox trade Papelbon for Wagner
Seriously... even if you go
Seriously... even if you go to the AP site they list thier headline as "Mets trade reliever Billy Wagner to Red Sox "
SJ... your better than that.. WAKE UP!
I'm usually not a big fan of
I'm usually not a big fan of your comments PW... but that was pretty damn funny..
So did this meeting happen
So did this meeting happen already or is it this coming friday? The article is very unclear.
Not a fan of all his jabs at
Not a fan of all his jabs at the "left", but overall a very funny well written article. Made me laugh. We should still be concerned about global warming and cutting down on pollution.. however Jonah makes some good arguements..
I think Lewiston Government
I think Lewiston Government needs it's own reality show.. you head out of town for a day, or are buried at work and it takes hours just to catch up on all the action. The Bennett saga, the Council, the Mayor's race... but most interestingly.. all the comments on the SJ site. It'd be nice to sit down on the couch at 8pm with a beer and get caught up in a 1/2 hour reailty-show-style recap. Maybe Great Falls TV can hook it up..
also.. if you go to Morin
also.. if you go to Morin brick, he takes the rejects from the brickmaking process and crushes them to use as a sort of gravel/crushed rock type pathway/driveway. He also uses the same stuff instead of mulch in his plant beds.. in both cases oddly enough it actually looks really good.
I agree.. before they get
I agree.. before they get thrown out.. patio, bbq pit.. all good ideas.. plus its a part of history and your bbq pit would have a story to tell. I'm not sure the impact of lead paint in a bbq fireplace though.. i can't imagine its a good thing.
Now for actual
Now for actual comments..
For a long time i've been a proponant of knocking down the Mill 5 building. I attended many workshops and meetings in years past on the Mill, have read the whole Mill no. 5 report (all 400+ pages), the Bates Mill Master Plan, the 09' City Of Lewiston Strategic Plan, L/A Excels and on and on and on..
When the Cowan fire happened, i think i changed my stance. Now I agree that the "Island Point" site should be developed first and maybe Mill 5 should sit for a while. I do feel the Mill 5 site is extremely valuable cleared completely.. but we already know that it won't be cleared.. Even if Mill 5 comes down. The council has already approved (a huge mistake in my opinion) a parking garage off Lincoln on that lower part of the site. WHY IS A GARAGE GOING THERE? Perhaps with the recent developments (Cowan Fire) this garage location should be re-thought.
Mr. Reed, yes i agree if the Mill caught fire it would be a disaster, but wouldn't that be true of nearly any building in that area? We just have to trust that the idiots that set the first one are caught and that doesn't happen again.
As for the failing concrete.. yes there is some spalling, and a few spots need work, but overall the building is in remarkable condition for its age.. i'm not sure what report you read.
Finally, whether the Mill stays or goes, the most important point is that real URBAN PLANNING and visioning takes place, not piece-meal turn a quick buck development.
These sites can make or break the future of L/A.. hopefully with prudent planning it won't be the latter.
Publikwerks said " The
Publikwerks said " The videotorials seem kinda silly"
Seriously? Another medium through which to generate conversation and get people thinking. Thats silly? I think anything that will get all of us discussing the future of OUR "Twin Cities" (yes i consider them one place) is alright in my book. I commend everyone for taking the time to post thier opinions on here, whether i agree with them or not. However, "Publikwerks" i do agree with Mr. Labonte that you shouldn't hide behind some ridiculous screen name... Publikwerks? What is that.. a poor attempt at a play on words? Your grafitti callsign? Public works is how it's correctly spelled... This is a forum to discuss opinions to better our community, not a building on which to spray paint your negativity.
i agree as well.. i'd also
i agree as well.. i'd also highlight the "recreational reasons" part.. there really isn't much to do around here... and i think thats a main deterrent
I couldn't agree more Bob..
I couldn't agree more Bob.. being mayor hardly entails "running the city" as PW states below.. we had a guy that did that just fine.. oh wait.. thats right, they fired him..
Robert Reed wrote: "As an
Robert Reed wrote:
"As an elected official on a county level, Mr. Labonte would have done more service to his community by writing a more inspired piece to show the people that we could move forward and he wished to be part of theat moving forward."
So tell me Mr. Reed.. where is your inspiration to your constituents?
On nearly a daily basis for the past two years i've read nothing but negativaty below your name in your comments.
So what's your vision to move forward? Ah yes.. you do not have one.. that's another "grey area" for you isn't it.
Libby Mill is on fire.
Libby Mill is on fire.
Sorry.. i was wrong.. It's
Sorry.. i was wrong..
It's not that they have no clue why they did it....
They did it because they don't like him.
They have no reason behind doing it is what i meant to say....
Dumb.
Leonard.. while i don't agree with the whole Colisee thing as the reason.. i do agree we need them out!
I love the Scott Taylor
I love the Scott Taylor interview of Councilor Reed.. classic..
When asked about the descision..
Councilor Reed: It just kinda happened and it just was time for a new direction..
Scott Taylor: What is the new direction? Do we know what the new direction is?
CR: No..
ST: Okay, do we know what the old direction was.. that we disaggreed with?
CR: That gets us into kind of a grey area..
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they have no d@mn clue why they did it... unbelievable