Some people expect municipalities and schools to operate at the same budget level every year. Unfortunately, costs increase as do salaries. Some complain that employees are paid too much, but the same people would scream foul if their employer cut their pay. Yes, we can cut budgets, but the work still needs to get done. Too often we hear of people complaining about the quality of education while also complaining about the budget.
The solution is for communities to build the tax base by attracting business. If we look at the businesses we have lost over the years, and the jobs that have gone with them, we see that our towns are less capable of paying these increasing costs. We need to get busy bringing money back into the area, encouraging business, and adding job opportunities in the private sector so that we can afford to provide our children with quality education services.
Designing schools to offer different programs makes sense, Having one school with a cookie cutter education for all students does not. Perhaps if we build on the strengths of each school, we can actually attract students from adjacent districts with specialized programs. Instead of rolling over and dying as a district, why not upgrade the program?? Team up with the college to expand advanced placement programs, develop sports and recreation based curriculum, expand upon the offerings for children requiring life skills training, restore a business tract with internships and business development support. What if students could graduate from high school with their first year of college already completed, or with a complete business plan??? What if students were placed in internships each summer and jobs upon graduation? If we change the way we approach education, our graduates will be in demand in the workplace.
We need the people to become more involved in all aspects of our community. There are two groups working on projects to move the town forward, River Valley Ideaville (https://www.facebook.com/groups/ideaville/) enjoyed strong support online, but when it came to people coming together to work toward these efforts only a handful could spare the time. Envision Rumford is working on zip lines, and promotional items, but even there the actual attendance at the meetings is less than impressive. If we want to see these things happen, we need to have people involved in the planning. The Rumford Comprehensive Plan Committee has asked for people to submit their ideas and visions, but only had a handful of responses. The first step is to express your ideas, and then collaborate with others to support the development. There is no fairy godmother waving a wand to make your dreams come true, we all have to work for it.
From the youngest child to the most senior citizen, community involvement is essential.
What was a person who is not being charged doing in a cell???? Sherman and those involved with the case should be fired and held personally accountable by the courts. The agents who put him in there should be removed from law enforcement permanently.
Of course, because this is law enforcement, and they only are required to answer to their own, the agents involved will get a slap on the wrist and be back to work the next hour. Anytime an agency is investigated internally, cover-ups are almost always the result. Don't be surprised if Mr. Chong is blamed in some way. :(
Previous boards have tried to work together without success. This time the only questions raised regarded what would be done, not whether or not we should work together.
I don't disagree that people have a tough time making ends meet, but I wonder how many people came to the Selectmen when you were on the board for a poverty tax abatement?????????? If any, how did you vote?
The best way to reduce the need for general assistance is to build your local economy. By working in cooperation with the private sector to create jobs and re-purpose dilapidated properties, we reduce the need for general assistance, build the local tax base, and reduce the reliance upon other municipal services. Cutting services in an attempt to reduce need is like closing hospitals to reduce the number of people who get sick. It just doesn't work that way. We have been "holding the line" for 20+ years without much effort to expand the tax base. Sure we have had a token person working to bring in the magical industrial business that can provide 500 high paying jobs, but we cannot rely upon fairy tale solutions. We need to work to develop what we have in the region to attract people to our community. Jim Rinaldo has done very well in getting this effort underway.
From the top of our mountains to the bottom of the Androscoggin, we have a variety of recreational opportunities. I was informed that a Les Otten once told the community leaders that our area should rely upon the pulp wood industry. Well, how has that worked out for us??? Of course he didn't want us to pursue recreation, because he knew that we had much to offer, and he didn't want our community taking away from his plans up at Sunday River (which he owned at the time). It is time to stop listening to the nay-sayers and work toward a bright future in our town, community and region.
The River Valley is fortunate to have dedicated teams of firefighters who work as a unified team to prevent houses from being destroyed. The cooperative relationship between the departments is commendable. Kudos to the teams and their leaders for establishing and maintaining this relationship.
People don't sell perfectly good ladder trucks. If you are going to work together, buy new and have it last longer. I predict that any used firetruck the towns purchase will end up needing constant repairs within 3-5 years (just like Rumford's did). :(
You are correct that our area is challenged by its location when attempting to attract industry. However, we are blessed by our location when it comes to natural beauty and outdoor recreation. I would love to see the hotel's feasibility study so that I would know what they have identified as attractions and benefits in this area. Right now there are efforts to better identify and expand upon recreation making use of our mountains and rivers. With the number of tourists who pass through our community throughout the year, we certainly have the opportunity to spur our economy if we try.
We are positioned to benefit from the Oxford casino, as their nearby recreation mecca. Tom Carey is working on bringing multiple zip-lines into the area, taking advantage of our unique natural features. The town is working to assess the feasibility of mountain bike trails. We have identified more resources for canoe and kayak rentals, and the Androscoggin River between Dixfield and Canton has awesome Bass fishing, which is going to be promoted. Black Mountain is looking to identify ways they can expand their summer offerings. Even the historical society is working to upgrade their offerings by considering a downtown display on the history of our community. That coupled with efforts to make our unique architectural structures more appealing, enhances people's perception.
Yes, the area is finally coming to life. The people and the government have realized that we cannot rely upon industry as a sole source of financial support for our economy. I would suggest that before posting about what CAN'T be done, perhaps it is wise to see what IS being done.
We need to bring more money into the area. The new hotel is a start, the movie theater is progress, but we need more to make our town prosperous. Jim Rinaldo is currently paid for 10 hours per week to work on economic development, and he has done a great job. However, that effort is insufficient for the position we are in. If we want to keep taxes low, we need to stop bailing out the sinking boat with a thimble.
It seems that when the General Assistance budget was cut for this fiscal year, Ms. Giberson took a $5.56 per hour pay reduction. How many of you would tolerate such a thing? The pay rate they approved is within the range of pay rates for people doing the same job in other similar sized communities, with as much experience. I haven't looked into the workload, so I cannot address the number of hours she needs to serve both Rumford and Mexico. I do know that a 1/3 reduction in pay rate is not acceptable. We need to be fair in dealing with town employees.
If the town wants to cut corners and be foolish when purchasing a street sweeper (another argument for another day) that is fine, but when it comes to public safety, I want our town to have the needed equipment to get the job done. I have lots of respect for all firefighters, but even the best of 'em cannot quickly get a ladder here from Dixfield or Andover if the Mexico truck is unavailable. With the tax rate in town, if you have a person trapped in a second or third story building, you had better be capable of saving their life. Yes, we need to work on regional collaboration, but we aren't there yet. Until our towns get their acts together, it is going to cost us more to protect lives.
You purchase a used piece of apparatus (under the advice of a new fire chief who came here from out of state and is no longer employed by the town)from the city department where the fire chief previously worked and you are surprised when it doesn't live up to expectations. Amazing!!
This is what happens when municipal boards try to pinch pennies. You have to shop smart. I hope that you are pleased with the purchase decision that was made, because you are stuck with it. :(
The last time I checked the school district received its power/authority from the member towns. Those town governments get their power from the people. If you want a budget for next year, you WILL listen to the people. It only takes a special town meeting in the right towns to hang the entire district out to dry. REMEMBER, ultimately you represent US.
A couple of thoughts.... 1. If you are not closing buildings, but you are adding the cost of busing students from East Dixfield and Canton to Rumford on a daily basis, where is the savings, a couple of teaching positions? 2. The Mountain Valley system has a much different culture than the Dirigo system. I am concerned that the Dirigo students being thrust into an urban culture will increase problems in our communities. 3. Why can't the system use the same distance learning technology between Mountain Valley & Dirigo that it is with Buckfield?? 4. Why aren't our towns putting any significant effort into building the local tax base so that we don't have to sacrifice the education of our children?? 5. How much of this is just about maintaining Class B status for the sports teams?????
If West Shore Road is private, shouldn't the landowners be maintaining it as a private way??? If it is a public road, everyone should have the right to go down there.
Too bad the town of Rumford didn't think to negotiate a grant from the cable company when they approved their new franchise agreement a week ago. Oh well, they will get another chance in 10 years. The cable company has only been operating in Rumford for about 50 years, and the only equipment the town has requested in that entire time is a new high tech sound system for the municipal auditorium. If they are lucky, that will improve the sound quality for their meetings, but if the access channel doesn't have working cameras, you won't be able to hear the new system on Channel 7. :(
It seems that the state government won't be happy until all areas of Maine are returned to just lakes and trees. It seems that humans are not welcome in this state. Well Augusta, lakes and trees don't pay taxes, so if you push us out, you won't be getting any paycheck.
Deputies shouldn't be relying upon physical descriptions of structures. The precise GPS coordinates should be required. It seems that the private sector needs to step up and get involved. Security agencies should hire retired and part time law enforcement officers to be on call for the more rural areas. I know it will cost more money, but if you want that level of service, you either pay the cost, or move somewhere that has a police department. The Sheriff's budget comes from town assessments, which comes from every tax payer in the county.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Tifs were created to encourage businesses to come to town. It does not affect the current valuation taxes. Without it, our town could remain stagnant for decades (but we have already done that). :(
Allyson has been an integral part of that operation over the years. Having worked with all of the various government and community entities, she is the perfect selection for the post.
I can see reasonable constraints on public participation in board meetings if there is a problem, but having to file a form 5 days ahead of time is just WRONG. It seems that the board has forgotten who the boss is in the town. I think I will tell my boss that he needs to file a such a request before speaking with me. I bet that will go over REAL well.
I believe it is time to Boycott Canton and all businesses in it until this policy is revoked.
It would be interesting to see how he has voted on the police budget in the past. As an obviously well-respected Republican, one can presume that he wanted the budget cut. Unfortunately, people like him cause the work load of the police department to require more officers who end up incurring overtime. If he could behave himself, he would be working to reduce the need for police staffing at the current levels.
How much do you want to bet the Republicans already had a nameplate printed for Dow in anticipation of his win. I think I should invest in pharmaceuticals over the next few months. When the November election occurs, the entire Republican party is going to need anti-depressants. But they an only blame themselves. They were greedy and tried to push too far, and now the people are realizing what is going on. It remains to be seen what the Republican party looks like in January 2013.
Shouldn't they also be responsible to assure that erosion and other adverse impacts are abated? Since they caused the situation, any problems that arise from their actions should be at their expense.
Mr Rogers will be replaced by a rabid wolverine, It is expected that the wolverine will be better capable of relating to the governor, and taming the perception people have of the administration throughout the state. Attempts to fill the position with a Tasmanian Devil proved unsuccessful.
Upon Reviewing the tax map, one sees that a shed on lot 113-143 has its back wall on the property line. Based upon this image and personal observations of the shed, I believe it is safe to say that the wall is within the town right-of-way. If there is/was a lease of the wall documented at some point in history, chances are that both the lease payments haven't been made in quite some time, based upon the fact that nobody knew about it.
Based on the fact that the right-of-way on my street extends to include part of my front porch which is a much greater distance, I believe we can safely say that the Strathglass wall on Hancock St is within the right-of-way. If you are unsure, get permission from the town, and then get permission from the adjacent landowners, and get the job done.
It may not be intentional, but actions such as this make it look like the board is using passive-aggressive tactics to keep our town looking shabby. :(
I don't live in the park, but since only a couple of residents have actual fences, I would think that a green barrier (shrubs) that grow to a limited height would be a much more attractive option.
911 is an emergency line and is not the appropriate number to call for slippery sidewalks. The only time you call 911 is in an emergency. Tying up a dispatcher to report icy sidewalks can cause loss of life. The appropriate number to call is 743-9554 (Oxford County Regional Communication Center). When a call is received on this line, it is handled at a secondary level.
It is reckless and irresponsible for our government and local newspaper to publish this erroneous information without checking with authorities. This is just one example of why it is out of order to begin discussions under Selectperson's Report. If you are going to discuss emergency procedures, you need to have consulted with someone who knows the protocols. I hope that our board works to assure that this type of mistake does not happen again.
I didn't know that legislative committees allowed public participation by non-members. Perhaps I should show up and put in my two cents. It seems that if they allowed him to speak just because he is the governor, it may be a case of violation of the separation of powers. It would be interesting to see his behavior investigated as to its legality/ethics.
If the Fire Chief knew there was a problem, and sought a quote, why didn't he request to have it placed on the agenda???? When you are upfront about things, there is less of a chance that the public will think something is being done improperly, especially when it comes to spending money.
The question is, did the person disagree with because they thought I was actually impressed, or did they sense the sarcasm??? Perhaps they just disagree with everything I say just because I am me. :)
Unfortunately, Mr. LaFlamme still managed to turn this interview into a slam on Rumford, by inferring that we have murders on a regular basis. What do you have against Rumford??? Aside from domestic abuse, we don't have much violent crime. However, through your constant references, your readers are lead to believe that we are the crime haven of Maine. SHAME ON YOU for misrepresenting our area!!!!
Jails should be reserved for people who are likely to harm someone else again. We can be sure that the young lady did not intend to kill anyone. The punishment I suggested would significantly reduce further incidents without costing the taxpayers for jailing the young lady. Also, by letting the young lady continue with her education and career, she will be much more likely to be self supporting, reducing the chances of her ending up on state assistance.
It is all smoke & mirrors. The Cabbies pay all of the costs, the town is just trying to maintain their $17 profit. It seems that, just like the federal level, government thinks they have to take as much money from the little guy to prevent the corporations a few cents on their taxes. Next there will be a fee to pay your taxes, ask a question, or have the town plow your street.
If our town had started to work on building the tax base back when the economy was good, we wouldn't be worried about making money off the poor today.
The liberal authorities will likely say "you can't punish the driver, she has been punished enough, having to live with knowing she was responsible for the death of her friends".
Here is my opinion:
Hosts - Punished with a significant fine for hosting the party, and ordered to not have contact with people under 21 in their homes for 10 years, and no contact with alcohol for the remainder of their lives.
Driver - Suspension of license for 5 years, responsible for paying funeral costs of those killed, no contact with alcohol for the remainder of her life, and not allowed to text message ever again.
This is a little bit more lenient than I would like, but I have to remain reasonable.
I heard rhetoric like this earlier today when I was listening to the NH debate... Are your running for the Republican nomination Frank???
It is funny that you try to blame anything that occurred while I was on the board upon me. I was always in the minority. I don't jump sides, I am not on any one side. On some issues I support a more conservative approach, and on others, I support a more liberal approach. It is called thinking for yourself, and not being a mindless political zombie. I tend to base my opinions on the facts that are stated. If additional information is uncovered, I may change my position, but it is based entirely upon facts. I am sorry to say that you don't seem to be as open minded in your decision making.
Let's presume that Chief Carter performs the background checks. His salary is part of the budget, paid for by taxes. If the fee for Hack licenses includes reimbursement for administrative costs including labor, where does that money go??? It doesn't go to Chief Carter, because his salary is already included in the annual budget. Where does it go??? Slush fund!!!!
By supporting a $47 fee for hack licenses, you are supporting a police department slush fund created by an extra $17 per license PROFIT for the department.
Applicants pay $25, the state fee is $22.... That leaves $3 for the id badge and application form. If those costs are more, then add a couple of dollars to the fee, but there is no reason that the applicant should be paying $47.
They receive $25 per application. It costs them $22 for the background check, and a few dollars for the ID badge. I speculated that it cost about $8 to be generous, but I believe the actual cost is less. If they want to increase the fee, I need to see a breakdown of the cost. THE TOWN SHOULD NOT BE MAKING A PROFIT OFF OF THE CITIZENS. $531 per year is one heck of a profit, off of the backs of one of the lowest paid professions in our community.
When the hack licenses were first established, the town charged a $25 fee. The cost to the town included the piece of paper for the application, and the ID badge, which costs no more than $8.00 Essentially, the town was earning about $17.00 for performing the service.
The State of Maine now requires the town to use a paid service to run the background checks, and charges $22.00. Chief Carter was requesting that the town increase the fee charged to the cab drivers by $22.00 to cover that cost, ignoring the $17 profit they already were earning. My suggestion was that the town charge $30.00 ($22.00 for the state fee, and $8.00 for the ID badge). The police officer who takes a few minutes to process this, is already on the clock, and handles it in the course of their daily duties.
How is it fair for the town to profit off of private businesses????
It appears that no matter what I say, or how I say it, I am going to be attacked. Not a problem, I am accustomed to it. I am just glad that this site prohibits anonymous attacks like they used to.
I wasn't complaining about the police doing their jobs, I was complaining about the Sun Journal making it look as if there is more crime in our community than actually exists by repeating the police log as the Rumford Crime Report, and concentrating on our community. You don't see them doing this with other towns, do you????
Please read and understand what is written before attacking. Thanks :)
How about following law enforcement from other agencies around as they do their jobs instead of making Rumford look like a haven for crime????? I am sure that other agencies arrest people too. I presume that these arrests will show up again in the Rumford Crime Bulletin making it look like there is twice as much crime in the area. Don't play into political games. It is all a well thought out ploy to assure that people don't feel safe in the community so that they won't cut the police budget. Unfortunately, in their efforts to protect their jobs, the RPD is preventing economic growth in the community. If there is no growth, our economy remains stagnant, which promotes criminal behavior, and requires more police protection. I guess some people just won't be happy until we have a police force of 50 officers wearing tactical gear patrolling in armored vehicles and our homes need bars on the windows. :(
In this "land of the free" we have so many restrictions, that one needs to check the rules before breathing to assure that they are in compliance. Our town has enacted more ordinances on more issues over the past 20+ years than I can remember. Our ordinance book has grown from a few pages to a half inch thick book. Most of that is the government telling people how and where to build their houses and use their land. Some ordinances were enacted to block certain types of businesses. When do we so-called "free" citizens get to make our own decisions, and stop having the government make them for us??
I am not a big fan of fear-mongering, give me facts. If private use of fireworks has caused so many injuries, then show me the numbers. Without facts to substantiate your claims, they are just an opinion. It is unfortunate that people in positions of authority feel the need to use manipulative tactics in the press rather than being up-front with the public.
Why are you reporting this twice? It is reported here, and then again in the RUMFORD CRIME BULLETIN. Again, why don't you post this level of information about crime in Lewiston & Auburn????
Why are you reporting this twice? It is reported here, and then again in the RUMFORD CRIME BULLETIN. Again, why don't you post this level of information about crime in Lewiston & Auburn????
I understand that there were some people who were eager to make money off the wind-power project, and this ordinance has prevented this from happening. However, we are all adults here, and a school-yard response is not in the town's best interest. We have had trouble attracting jobs to the area; industrial jobs have not been brought in, which means retail jobs are not being developed. The one asset we have that could attract some added revenue to our community is tourism. Unfortunately, over the years, poor community planning has left us without public recreation trails, such as those in some communities developed on former railroad beds. We need to rely upon the generosity of landowners to permit access. Tourism may not provide the same revenue as manufacturing jobs, but it can help our sinking economy. There are people out there who are trying to make a living on the tourism trade. Shutting down land access to visitors is taking away income to them. If we shut off all sources of revenue, our town will become the slum that many perceive it to be already.
In the middle of a lake, it is unwise to tell people on a sinking boat that they cannot use your bucket to bail out the water.
It would seem that the comment to which I replied has been deleted. I wasn't just making the statement out of thin air. As I don't recall the now absent statement, I cannot address my thinking in creating the reply.
I will say that any landlord needs to provide off-street parking for their tenants in the winter months if their units are to be attractive to potential renters. Relying upon street-side parking is irresponsible. If off-street parking is not available, either the unit remains empty, or the landlord needs to find a way to provide it. There are buildings in the area that could be purchased to be re-developed into additional parking. If the owner cannot afford to provide the parking, perhaps they have made a poor business decision in acquiring an 18 unit building in the first place.
Why doesn't the SJ post the same level of reporting about crime in the city as it does crime in the River Valley????? I just looked back and couldn't find any articles like this for the Lewiston-Auburn area. That and their police logs only list arrests, not all activity by the various departments. I believe the Lewiston Sun-Journal is intentionally working to suppress the River Valley area by making it look like a high crime area. SHAME ON YOU SJ!!!!!
I decide my view based upon the facts I find, not the opinion of anyone else. I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. I am ME. You don't need to agree with me, but please do not try to categorize me either.
I am a Moderate, that is what we do.... we look at situations, gather the facts and decide what is best. Unlike liberals and conservatives, we are not super-glued to a political platform. Our platform is common sense. :)
A casino is already being built in Oxford County. Your effort would steal those jobs from our people and give them to your people. You have many more opportunities than we do but you have to resort to stealing jobs???? SHAME ON LEWISTON!!!!!!
My concern from the beginning was that the town not put itself in the position of having to spend tons of money on legal fees in court. You stated that I "learned", but my position has not changed. I listened to both sides, but in the end, it is the facts, not opinion that make the difference. It is difficult to trust facts from an angry lynch mob of lobbyists. I still say that the methods used to develop this ordinance were unbalanced and unproductive. Had the board not given in to the lynch mob lobbyists, but rather worked with them and the pro-wind lobby to discuss this in a reasonable manner, perhaps we could have come to this conclusion a year and a half ago and not wasted that time.
Now the Republicans are going to have to pass a law preventing 4-year-olds from entering the polling place, because there is solid evidence that they are voting. If we don't nip this in the bud, before you know it, there will be pre-natal voting going on, and the abortion laws will be overturned!!!!
Regardless of what anyone thinks of wind power, the developers weren't intending upon paying taxes. They were looking to get their taxes rebated to pay for the project despite the fact that the entire project is subsidized by the federal government. Meanwhile, they get to keep the profits from welling the power to out-of-state companies. There would have been no tax revenue, no reduction in our power rates, and no other benefit, but we would be "blessed" with the sight and sound of the wind towers.
I am sorry that some landowners were unable to profit from this project. As with any business venture involving public regulation, sometimes decisions made have unintended consequences. Moving forward, we need to work together as a community to identify ways to build our tax base and economy. While it is unlikely that other projects will provide the same financial opportunity for these landowners, I would ask that they not work against any efforts to maximize the utilization of the resources we currently have. There are many great ideas out there, and one landowner can be key to the success or failure of any one of them. I have heard of landowners planning to block access to their land to snowmobile traffic in retribution for not having the opportunity to profit from the wind project. This would shut down snowmobile access to large sections of our community, and be a negative economic impact on our economy. I truly hope that these landowners reconsider such action. Our area relies upon the snowmobile visits from vacationers. The clubs do an excellent job of maintaining the trails. To throw that away over wind-power would be unwise.
Mexico and eventually Dixfield are going to have to consider either going the route that Bethel took or working out an arrangement with Rumford. If they come together as a regional police force with a fair cost-sharing formula, many of the problems of each department can be eliminated. The problem is getting the boards of selectmen to work out a plan.
Now, THAT is how you take a mug shot. Unless you are from Rumford, and know that they take their mug shots against the painted brick wall, it is so easy to deny that this picture has anything to do with being charged with a crime. The nice big smile makes it look like a news story about winning the lottery. However, based upon the situation, she must have been very drunk and didn't understand the seriousness of the situation. I am very glad that nobody was injured. This must have been a very scarey experience for the children.
I went down to Hancock St today to check it out. I parked as would any reasonable person alongside the road in two places. I then paced out the distance from my tire to the center line. At the first stop it was 8 feet. On the second stop, I tried to get slightly closer to the curb, realizing that the average driver probably won't make that attempt. The distance was 9 1/2 feet. Given that the average vehicle is about 5 1/2 feet wide, that provides only 3 1/2 feet between the passing vehicle and the stopped vehicle if the passing vehicle is to remain on their own side of the road.
I like Jeff Sterling's suggestion. Between Sagadahoc and Tasker move the line; make the travel lane heading into town wide enough for traffic, but not for parking as it is on the Maine Ave to Lincoln Ave section. Then paint a white line indicating a parking lane on the other side with more than ample space for vehicles to pass by. Of course, since the road is technically a state highway, even though it is maintained by the town withing the compact limits, it would be wise to check with them before making any changes.
One person has asked me to assist them in collecting data to support leaving it as it is. I am open to discussion.
When is the SJ going to publish the Lewiston/Auburn Crime Bulletin???? Oh, wait, that would probably take three pages DAILY!!!! By singling out Rumford, you are making it look like Rumford is the only community with crime, and that is inaccurate journalism. :(
Thank you for clarifying that the reason Med-Care responded. Some people would read that his injuries were minor and get all upset that they were even on scene. Of course, if they hadn't shown up and it had been worse, they would have been all upset too. You just cannot win with some ignorant people.
It seems that the squeaky wheel has been greased; the anti-wind lobby has won. However, for the good of the town we need to move on. I say we should pass this ordinance, wait for a new board to be seated in June, and consider making small amendments, if needed, to adapt the ordinance. I don't know how you feel, but my viewpoint is that they have wasted way too much time on this. How much better would our town be if the board had spent as much time and energy on economic development???? The board has given in to the powerful lobbying group, as we all knew they would. Let's just hope that it doesn't end up costing us big money in court.
The key word here is reimburse. You don't wait for the federal government to act before you do (people can get very old if they try). Get the job done, have a special town meeting if needed to get authorization to transfer money between accounts, and get the job done. I can't imagine that it will be as easy, nor as durable if you wait until the ground freezes. We don't need to be out there fixing the repair next spring.
Mr Capola, Fixing the Charter to the extent that is required DOES require a Charter Commission. Anytime you are making a change that affects the way decisions are being decided, or shifting power from one entity to another, you need a Charter Commission.
The big problem that has prompted the suggestion of doing away with the Charter is that the Board of Selectmen are not allowed to obligate the town beyond the next Town Meeting. That means they must call a special town meeting to get permission to hire an additional police officer under a three year grant, because the grant requires them to fund the position for a forth year. Some contend that the selectmen, who are elected for three year terms, should be able to make decisions that extend beyond their time in office. Others assert that the decision should remain with the citizens.
Dr. Aniel can afford to plow his own driveway. Why do people with the means to do something themselves try to get a government hand-out?? Perhaps we should take a bunch of people up there to the "end of the road" and have a party. If you include the entire right-of-way, there would be ample room. I wonder if Dr. Aniel would call the police and have us removed. Sorry Doc, but you come out looking really bad on this issue no matter how you look at it. Even if it were technically a legal road, the town shouldn't have to maintain it just for you. There is a space to turn around down below, and there is no reason why you cannot clear the snow.
Just get it over with and out of the way. There is so much more on which our board and town manager need to be concentrating. When your town is facing tough economic times, it is not a golden opportunity to spend two years bantering over a single issue. :(
As long as you allow the lobbyists to be involved in the workshops, this thing is going to drag on forever. I have no doubt that any ordinance approved by this board is going to cost the town dearly in the courtroom because the majority are anti-wind, and the end result will be an ordinance that prevents wind from developing.
Anyone who thought that a casino owner was going to hire their top management from a field of candidates consisting of retail and manufacturing leaders was dreaming. Would you open a multi-million dollar business with management having no experience in the business??? Ms. Hilton goes a bit to the extreme though. Just because upper management is likely to be people from away, that doesn't mean Mainers will be left with janitorial jobs. There are many more jobs involved in running a casino than just management and custodial positions. Ms. Hilton is obviously anti-casino and using her style of debate to scare people into her way of thinking. SHAME ON HER. :(
The majority of the board wants to block wind power. They have an ordinance that will do exactly that. If they just put that same ordinance in front of the voters and it passes (because people are tired of hearing about wind) the developers could bring a legal challenge against the town. However, if they craft a new ordinance that seems more lenient, (but still in effect blocks wind) the town may not face a legal challenge, or may be able to better defend itself against a challenge that does come up. Still, we are effectively asking unqualified people to draft an ordinance, so they must be getting direction from the outside lobbyists.Drafting an ordinance of this magnitude requires much more expertise than is available in this town.
If you can't believe your friendly neighborhood busy body, who can you believe?? We were told we were going to have a tax increase, and darn it all we want our increase!! We cannot allow Candice to be wrong on this, or any other issue. It just cannot be allowed!!!! What is this world coming to, first Ron is wrong about a delay in the construction of the Amatos, and now this?? Now get the accountants back to work and find that tax increase!! :p
But seriously...
I am glad that our town is in such good fiscal shape that even in this economy, we are able to keep from having to increase taxes on the local level. Now if we can get busy on growing our tax base, maybe we can reduce everybody's taxes.
It seems that the only reason this was deemed critical WAS so that the people involved in the Oct 1st event would see it. There wasn't even a guarantee that it would be installed by then, but that was the basis of the so called "critical circumstance".
Fred,
First of all, the board cannot remove one of its own members. There is a process for recalling a selectman in Rumford.
Secondly, if every selectperson who didn't make sense in their statements and/or actions from time to time were removed, we would quickly run out of citizens to run. Every board member has done something that people oppose, and unless they do something that is blatantly illegal, it would be hard to remove any of them.
Is it truly critical to the functioning of the town that this kiosk be erected before a canoe event, or even winter?? Yes, it would be nice, but critical????? Aside from the people who may see it on October 1st, how many will see the new kiosk over the winter?? Snowmobile operators will see it, but they are not likely to be thinking of canoeing. I think that in this instance the "critical circumstance" ordinance was abused.
According to the discussions I have had, this is not a full time position, it is not even a true case of employment; it is planned as a stipend based position to handle certain tasks on a limited basis. It is actually a great opportunity for a college student seeking to gain experience while working on a related degree.
Now THERE is a guy who knows how to pose for a mug shot. Although, if he is guilty, I would personally like to wipe that smile off his face. But my point is that the only way you know this is a mug shot is because of the background. There are not many heavily painted white brick walls in town, and the ones that do exist are not popular tourist attractions. So, except for an ID photo, I can't think of an excuse for such a picture. Perhaps if the PD had used the paneling background instead, there may be more excuses for having such a photo. :)
Jeremy, Always smile for a mug shot, that way you can deny that it is a mug shot when it turns up on the Internet (or in the newspaper). Not your best look, but certainly not your worst :). Ya know, a few facial piercings and a Billy Idol sneer and you would look like an 80s punk rocker :)
You know that once a Charter Commission is formed, there is no controlling what they do. That is part of the safeguards in the process. This is why it is important to handle election of Charter Commission members just as you would Selectmen. Have a candidates night and ask questions. The appointed members also need to be selected carefully.
Hey Doug, I know you are a professional with a keen sense for impaired drivers, but there is something wrong here. Either this guy was impaired, or he has no regard for safety at all. Either way, he does not belong on the road.
once again, Mr. DiConzo you are going overboard. Yes, the board is making different decisions, but that does not mean that there is a dictatorship. Just as in Washington where the majority shifted from one party (approach) to another, so have things shifted here. I don't agree with every decision made, but I am not one of the decision makers.
You state a number of good points, but please consider being less extreme in your depiction of the power structure. We live in a democracy, and this is how a democracy works. You know as well as anyone that if I believed anything underhanded were happening, I would not sit quietly and let it continue.
based upon the information presented in this article, it would seem that Mr. Hines is going overboard.
The best action for a town to take is to set a policy on how FOIA requests are handled, including a process for setting a time frame as to how quickly one can expect access to information. If a request is made to a department with no regularly paid staff, the request may reasonably be expected to take longer than a department with a secretary.
Another good practice is to save electronic copies of documents as you go. If they are produced on a computer, save a copy in PDF format. If they are not, scan them as they are made/updated to PDF format. This allows for easy transfer of information, or posting on a web site.
I understand that municipal offices and departments are very busy. I usually can find out what I need by just speaking with the proper person for a few moments. I don't recall ever making an official FOAA request, and those who know me know that I like to keep a close eye on what is happening in my community.
Unfortunately, trademark laws are so loose that you can trademark just about anything. I would like to trademark the word "fun" so that nobody could have "fun" anumore without paying me. :)
It is getting old listening to the anti-wind lobbyists spout out the same old crap every time there is an article about wind power.
I am not saying that their information is not valid, nor important, but after a year and a half of listening to the same old record playing over and over, it becomes annoying. I understand that your plan is to annoy people enough to get them to vote an ordinance that you can support. I guess that is how a vocal minority manipulates the process to get their way.
I am not saying that everyone else is pro-wind. Many either don't care or are so tired of hearing you whine that they don't engage in discussion.
My personal opinion is that we need to address the issue fairly without passing an ordinance that effectively bans wind development.
We have more development heading our way, if we don't blow it. Every negative comment on a public web site has the potential of ruining the efforts of our economic development team. If you want Rumford to remain as it is, keep it up with the negative comments. But, if you want Rumford to grow, stop tearing down everything that happens.
I didn't know about the ice cream shop plans. Perhaps if it is different enough, the impact on the two existing shops will be minimal. I would like to see one of the ice cream shops in the area be a Dairy Queen. :)
Frankie's problem is that anyone who speaks against him is wrong, he is very black & white in his position. Perhaps if he took time to actually read and understand what I have posted, he would not be so quick to attack a person who has supported him when others have not.
Recently I posted a comment regarding the tree issue of a few years ago. I commented that politics blew it way out of proportion. Frankie took this as an attack on him, and now has accused me of being on the "other side".
Well, MR. DICONZO, I don't join sides. I hold my own beliefs based upon the available facts. I make suggestions based upon what I believe to be the most prudent action for the town. So, you can take your accusations and political posturing about me and my positions and plant them in a conspicuous place, and see if they grow.
Frank,
I don't flip-flop, I haven't taken a position on wind power. I stand for assuring that the procedure is as fair as possible for both sides. If you don't know that by now, you will never understand me.
I believe you have gone too far, you cannot prove everything you have said, it is merely your opinion, but you state it as fact. You imply that the anti-wind people have paid off three selectmen. That is an accusation, and could end you up in court. You need to be more careful what you say.
I don't agree that any of the Selectmen "don't care about your town". They could say that you don't care about it because you are willing to allow wind power to come to town unregulated. The difference is each persons perception of the impact of these towers. The anti-wind people see it as a threat from which they want to protect the town; and you see the blocking of wind power as a message to other business that Rumford is not business friendly. Regardless of who is right, and who is wrong, everyone is working toward what they perceive is in the best interest of the town, because they care for the town.
Don't worry Frankie, everyone knows how you feel about removing trees. As a matter of fact, Brad Adley mentioned that he knew a guy who could remove the trees downtown. I am not sure exactly of whom he was speaking, but I believe you were close to the top of the list. ;)
In all fairness, I must say that the tree cutting controversy in the past would not have caused such a fuss if politics had been different. Unfortunately, our town was in a really bad political battle (almost as bad as the current mess in Washington D.C.). In that scenario, people will say and do anything to attack their opponent. Luckily, our town has moved past that, and now we have a board that respectfully works through problems. There are still some small piddly issues that crop up on a regular basis, keeping the Town Manager from working on moving forward, but overall our town is functioning well.
Our Town Charter is not the problem because it is old, most of the problems were caused by amendments that were made without going through the proper process. Hastily made legislation to change the Charter has created this mess and taken away the authority of the citizens to make decisions.
If you want a small handful of people to make all of the decisions for where you live, move to a country run by a monarch, or move to a place that is run under a council form of government. Either option will work, but it is not the way our country was designed. WE THE PEOPLE are supposed to be in control of our communities, not bureaucrats and people with corporate puppet strings. Bring America back to the way it is supposed to be.
The way our budget is set up, there is minimal fiscal oversight. When we changed voting from the Town Meeting to ballot box, we lost all control over line items. For example, Public Safety includes Emergency Management, Utilities (Street Lights and Hydrants), Police & Fire Retirement, and Code Enforcement. Both the Selectboard and the Finance Committee still get a say over what the individual line item amounts will be, but the people don't. We have a choice of two totals.
What's worse, even the Selectboard and Finance Committee are unable to delve below the surface on the large department budgets. For example, the Police and Fire Department budgets are only a single line item, so both boards can discuss changes they would like to see in these budgets, but there is no means for them to modify line items under the budget. To me, it makes sense for both budgets to be broken down into line items such as staffing, training, equipment purchase and maintenance, mutual aid costs, overtime, and office costs. This would allow both the finance committee and Selectboard to adjust costs within the department. As it stands, the department heads have free reign as long as they stay under the magic number.
I have advocated for a change in the rules to require a department head to get permission from the Selectboard if they are going to overrun any line item. Unfortunately, the rule as stated is not clear, and allows overruns between line items without approval as long as the bottom line is not exceeded.
My suggestion is that the larger department budgets be broken down into line items for the annual warrant, the Selectboard and Finance Committee work with the department heads to come to a reasonable amount for each line item, and the town find a way to restore the power of Town Meeting without doing away with the ballot box for final approval.
This budget is OUR budget for OUR town, and WE should have a greater say in how OUR money is spent.
We are so fortunate that nobody was killed. This woman' selfish need to be intoxicated, and her foolish decision to drive only damaged inanimate objects.... this time.
Over the six years Scott was Director, he has worked hard to assure that our county is prepared to handle a variety of incidents. He has improved our readiness by leaps and bounds. It is unfortunate that this issue resulted in him leaving the position. I wish him well in whatever path he chooses.
I know that Allison has the leadership skills to not only maintain the programs that Scott has begun, but to work with local emergency planners to further expand the resilience, readiness, and preparedness of our county.
I also raised a concern about Jim Thibodeau being on the same board as his son Kenrick, but the explanation was made that in small towns, such things are unavoidable. I say re-advertise and at least attempt to avoid it.
If he did not abuse his access to the information and distributed the information to others in the public safety realm, wouldn't it be up to those people to assure that they did not abuse their access to the information?
Is this the same new cruiser I saw being used yesterday around 4pm? What time was the town meeting, and how quickly did the vendor get the car prepped and delivered??
A TIF is a tool used by a municipality to encourage business development, and designate funds for future development. The money can be designated to other purposes, including upgrade of infrastructure (water, sewer, streets, etc) or be directed to future economic development efforts. The most important part of a TIF is that the increase in taxes that would normally reduce our state revenue sharing and state education funds, don't.
If a TIF is used to assist with the funding of a project, there is typically a secondary benefit (such as jobs) to the community. Also, a TIF is for a limited time, and can be designed to be regressive so that the value of the property and buildings sheltered reduced over time, adding to the tax rolls.
If the area around the island were not protected by cement, annual erosion would have undermined river street decades ago. The cement also prevents the build up of debris that could eventually increase the risk of flooding. I believe this was all part of the W.P.A. project.
If Mr. Fayen ever screws up a story about the Free Store again, he had better be ready for Margaret to really let loose on him. She is one momma bear you don't want to get angry.
In a discussion with Margaret this morning, I was informed that the store was only to be closed for a couple of days. She is upset that the reporter mis-represented the information she provided. Please continue to support the Free Store, and join them for a benefit to replace their furnace and roof Here are the details from a Facebook Invite:
Time:Friday, July 1 · 9:00am - 3:00pm
Location:Free Store/ Santas Helpers parking lot
Rain date July 2, 2011.
There will be a Chinese Aution, 50/50, bake sale, cake walk, DJ & much more. Help us save the Free Store/ Santa's Helpers. Proceeds will help purchase a new furnace. Any donations welcomed. Thank you to all who have donated already & those who are going to donate. We need to pull together as a community to continue serving the community!!!!!
Both the current method of government and a Town Council form of government have the right to petition, but if a board is against something, a petition will force a costly town meeting and ballot vote on most issues. An activist board can cause such a stink over a single issue, that some people will vote against it because of the turmoil.
The board will find that State Law requires a Charter Commission for major changes or the elimination of our Charter. It is not as simple as a simple yes/no vote. Elimination of the Charter will give up local control over how our government operates.
I see this as the second step in removing the rules, so that our elected officials can have more power. Actions such as this could lead to a Town Council form of government, where the people have no authority except to elect Council members, and the right to petition. If you like the authority you have on the state and federal level, consider being that ineffective in your own town.
The first step in removing the rules, was the board's deciding to not adopt a set of rules of order. Effectively, there are no set rules for their meetings. Decisions are at the whim of Chairman Buccina, and do not have to be evenly enforced. He can decide to shut up one person and let the next speak for hours.
Mr Buotte was on the committee that spent over a year drafting the previously defeated ordinance, which effectively made it impossible for wind power to come to Rumford. In my opinion, he and the small group that is comprised mostly of his family members and people from adjacent towns have attempted to bully the board into placing the exact same ordinance on the ballot. THEY DON'T WANT WIND POWER.
Our Board of Selectmen have wisely moved beyond that roadblock and drafted a less restrictive ordinance. Thanks to Selectman Sterling, the board now has a document that provides protections without totally banning the wind power projects. It may not be perfect, and I am not suggesting you vote for it on my word, but don't be bullied.
My only concern here is that we be fair and follow the rules. I am neither a proponent nor an opponent of wind power. I have no financial interest, nor ties to the development of wind power. But just like children on the playground,I won't stand by and watch a small group of bullies get in the way of what is fair.
Alice, I am not addressing wind power, I am speaking about the ordinance. Based upon the comments made by many, it is obvious that they want to block, not regulate wind power. Unfortunately, the rules do not allow us to do that, so we need to approve an ordinance that will regulate it without blocking it.
The 12-15 citizens who constantly show up at the ordinance hearings and meetings are generally tied to the original ordinance that was voted down. That ordinance would have been a de-facto ban on wind power in Rumford. This small group will say anything they have to to discredit anything less than the previously defeated ordinance. They don't want wind power in the valley, and they are trying very hard to keep it from happening. I commend them on their persistence. However, the law does not permit us to ban wind power, and if we did, the state and developers could cause legal problems for the town. Those opposed to wind power claim that wind power will have detrimental affects on people who will, in turn, sue the town for not protecting them. But if the town has an ordinance in place that is at least as restrictive as ordinances in other towns, they will have done what is reasonably expected in addressing the issue.
The Finance Committee does not do the audit. It would be unreasonable to believe that a volunteer board of persons from varied professions could be put in the position of auditing a town. Mr. Blake brings a team in with him to perform the audit.
It will be interesting to see if any Republicans win in the next election. My guess is that the people will look at the actions of the Republicans both locally and nationwide and vote them all out. It is sad that the radical right has given the party such a bad name in such a short amount of time. The current Republican party is not my cup of tea.
Another challenge communities face is in spending money to fund economic development efforts. A well meaning volunteer who may have contributed many hours of work may feel entitled to a position when it is posted. When the volunteer is not chosen as the leading candidate, that person may protest loudly, perhaps even throwing a tantrum, causing people who may have been skiddish about spending the money for the effort to withdraw their support and leaving the town without a concerted effort. This can cripple economic efforts in a community and cause problems with potential entrepreneurs who instead of having faith in a community, now see it as unstable and unwilling to work with potential businesses. Even the most skilled municipal board can have difficulty overcoming the damage caused by such an individual.
The key to improving our state/national financial problem is not to take more money away from working people. A 2% decrease in revenue for a working person causes a ripple effect throughout the economy. It causes them to cut back on spending in their communities, which causes local businesses to have to cut back on employee hours; which, in turn causes them to cut back on spending. If you want the economy to grow, you need to not try to balance the budget on the workers.
If the Republicans would stop excluding the wealthy from paying taxes, our government would have the revenue it needs to operate. I agree that waste has to be cut from government budgets, but those choices need to be made when the economy is good, not when it is bad. The Republicans manufactured this economic down-turn as an excuse to make cuts. They felt that the only way to garner support for their actions was by creating crisis. They either didn't think it through, or didn't care. While the working class is struggling to remain in their homes, the wealthy are getting wealthier. Before we know it, we will be back to the middle ages, with indentured servants and feudal lords.
People, do not be fooled by the Republicans. They are going for total power of the wealthy at the expense of the middle class.
So, if we eliminate 30 positions per year for 20 years, we can totally eliminate education costs. Hurray for the Republicrats (politicians).
If they had only eliminated the tax credits for the top 1%, the Federal government wouldn't have had to cut subsidy. More people could remain working, which means more revenue to the state. It also means more buying power, which spurs the economy, which generates more jobs, which means more revenue to the state. which means more buying power, which spurs the economy, which means more revenue to the state. which means more buying power, which spurs the economy...
Oh, by the way, it also means that our children actually learn something in school. But nobody cares about that.
At the meeting last night, most of the audience behaved themselves. They refrained from outbursts, cheers and jeers. Unfortunately, one citizen from a neighboring town arrived late and chose to ignore the rules of etiquette and rules of order by which meetings are run. The offending person, whom I will not name, proceeded to hold conversations with others in the audience, scoff when something said disagreed with the person's opinion, chortle at statements made, speak out loud at statements made, and even laugh out loud at statements made. Luckily for the person, Carlo Puiia, who ran the meeting, did not choose to make an issue of the disturbance. Under Maine law, a person can be removed from a meeting for such behavior. Aside from the legal aspects of the behavior, it is rude. Some people attend meetings to actually hear what is being said by the official participants. We don't want to have someone come in from another town to interfere with our ability to do so.
If you want to be part of a meeting run as a circus, do so in your own town. You will not see me come to be a part of it, nor to correct you. What you do in your town is up to your townspeople. If they want to condone disrespect and rude behavior, that is their choice.
With additional school days, and a delayed opening, on top of the snow days, the schools will eventually be deciding whether or not to take the 4th of July as a paid holiday. What is the underlying rationale for this bill? It can't be quality of education, because state mandates already have taken that out of schools. Teaching has gone out the window, and the "teachers" in the classrooms are merely programming the students.
Well, if you want to blame it all on the special ed kids, then you have picked the wrong adversary. Many of the children in Special Ed classrooms have the ability to achieve, but historically, have been pigeon-holed. As you admit, 50 years ago they were segregated. They were cast aside by society. Some were even institutionalized at great expense to society. Today, many are able to transition into classrooms where they achieve and even excel. My daughter started out in a special ed classroom, and now is an honor student. Those who cannot achieve (the ones who used to be placed in institutions) are taught basic skills for living in society, such as shopping. This reduces the burden on society for future services. Having them in the same building, allows the higher functioning children transition into the mainstream classroom. It assists the lower functioning students in being able to interact with peers their own age. Of course there are bullies like you who would blame the ills of the world upon them and treat them poorly, but there are some people in the world who believe in treating everyone as a human being.
Now, about that teaching thing. Thanks to government mandates, teachers are no longer given the luxury of being able to actually teach. They have become programmers, whose sole job it is to program children's brains to pass the state mandated assessment. The Ed Tech positions are in place to support the teacher with students who are not easily programmed (such as special ed students. They are not in every classroom, and not every special ed student has their own ed tech.
Now, back to my comments.... The Republicans claim to be in favor of jobs, but they want to cut education. Education prepares students for jobs, but the wealthiest Americans don't have to worry about that because they can send their children to private schools. By cutting funding to education, they are cutting jobs and reducing the access to education for the middle and lower class. This will make our country less effective in the labor market, and cause companies to avoid using the American workforce. But that's okay, because the companies are owned by the wealthiest Americans, and they make their money from the oversees corporations.
The tax breaks were intended to put money into the economy. It worked because the middle class spent, not because of the top 1%. It was ethically and morally wrong for the Republicans to hold legislation hostage in exchange for the tax credits for the top 1% . I would have gladly paid more in taxes in exchange for the top 1% having to do the same. While we are at it, I would like to see all tax loopholes closed too. Some of those wealthiest 1% pay less in taxes than I do. Trickle down economics does not work.
It is always interesting when a fill-in reporter covers a story. The above piece is the perfect example of this. Ms. Adams did a fine job of covering the meeting, but she missed the fact that the board has been working on this ordinance since the last proposal was shot down.
Last night it was proposed that there be as many as five ordinances listed from which the people could choose. Presenting that many choices would not only be confusing and improper form for a ballot, but it would split the vote to allow a special interest group to push through the proposal they want, most likely the one that the voters turned down this past fall.
Somebody suggested that the voters should have a choice, but it was pointed out by myself and Ms. Casey that the board is responsible to review the options and present what they recommend is best for the town. Not doing so is neglecting their duty to the town. Passing an overly restrictive ordinance opens the town to the likelihood of defending it in court at a high legal cost. it also would give the message that our community is anti-business.
It is a delicate process balancing between protecting the town from any adverse affects of any industry, and protecting the town from prosperity.
Thanks to the Republicans for reducing the number of jobs, and simultaneously reducing the quality of education for our children. At the same time, they gave a continued tax break to the wealthiest people in the nation. Way to build an economy. :(
When was the last time you sat at a table and thought to yourself, "Gee, this table was wiped down really well, and the setting is really straight, I think I will give the busboy ten dollars?"
When was the last time you tipped a hostess (not counting the time you asked for a special table)?
When was the last time you felt inclined to go out into the kitchen and compliment, much less tip, the dishwasher?
How often do you tip the cook at the local diner for piling your slop in the plate just right?
Cooks, bus staff, dishwashers, hostesses, and prep staff should all be getting full minimum wage. There is no need for tipping them unless you want to.
Based upon this news, there are many people who will now not go to the Union River Lobster Pot. It is unfortunate for the employees who work there, but some people refuse to support a business where management disrespects the employees.
It is 6:40 in the evening, as the world settles in to rest after a long day, you can hear the crickets chirping in the tall grass. No longer are we disturbed by the sounds of machine gun fire and mortar shells exploding around us. Once in a while some young teens will set off a fire cracker or two, no harm is done, but mother is still startled. As I sit on the rocking chair on the front porch, I wonder if one of the neighbors will meander down the path to banter over politics or the events of the day. With the snipers gone, it is now safe to do so more freely. I believe I could learn to enjoy this.
I cannot imagine that your layout people are so cloistered that they don't know the difference. Don't you let them out of their cages when they are done working? ;)
I express my opinions, and share what I understand from speaking with those involved. I have never represented my opinion as that of the board, nor the opinion of the Town of Rumford. If you believe I have, please site references. Thank You.
This provides an opportunity for loocal entrepenures to offer to take away your junk for a small fee.
One of the problems with eliminating the spring clean-up is the loss of opportunity for treasure seekers to find a new home for discarded furniture and items. It can be easily speculated that this factor reduces the amount disposed of by at least half. Hopefully, they will be able to find more when the clean-up returns.
One reason for the decline in the amount picked up over the years, is due to tighter restrictions on what is allowed. Some people have torn down entire buildings, leaving the debris for the town to remove. This is no longer allowed. However, if the persons who did that considered the time and energy involved in cutting the wood into four-foot lengths, they would realize that it would have been more efficient to hire someone to take away the debris whole.
Frank,
If someone wants a program shown on the access channel, they can submit it. However, they would be responsible for obtaining permission to telecast the program which is copyright. The board cannot demand that it be shown, especially if permission is not granted. If you recall, I had a little bit to do with the start up of that channel, and I maintain contact with the statewide association of access channels. If you require more information, please feel free to contact me.
I see nothing wrong with shopping in pajamas as long as they are clean and not styled for erotic enticement. I wouldn't do it, primarily because I won't waste the money to buy pajamas, but I am usually seen wearing moccasin style slippers when I am not at work.
If someone wants to saunter in their sponge-bobs or shop in their scooby-doos, you won't hear me complain. Obviously, there is some anatomy that needs to be adequately secured to avoid escape, but that is only common sense, and not resticted to pajamas.
If you think of it, there is no significant difference between pajamas and typical "day-clothes"; they all cover the essentials, and provide a certain sense of style. If someone is opposed to the style another is wearing, that is their problem.
The people of our nation need to get a grip. Our nation is the most (pardon the pun) hung up on what we wear, and where. The human body comes in two basic models (male and female), some are compact, others are heavy duty, but for the most part, all of the same parts are present in the same places (your results may vary). Somehow it is offensive to see a person in pajamas, but when the warm weather arrives, it is okay to see them in a bikini top (which looks an awful lot like a colored bra)? Get real, people.
As long as people are being respectful of others and following the laws, why be concerned? Under Maine State Law, a person could shop in a speedo if they chose, so let's not complain about full body pajamas :)
Ms. Pease,
I find it funny that you tell us to seek out information from those who have no financial stake in wind developments, then you then go on to state "facts" from unknown sources. You expect us to accept what you say, without disclosing whether or not you have ties to wind initiatives. Based upon what I read, you appear to be an anti-wind lobbyist. How do we know you aren't? Due to the overwhelming amount of lobbying on both sides, it is virtually impossible to research wind development on the Internet. It is just as difficult to research it using "professionals" because they all have an opinion.
I believe that the best option is to provide a reasonable ordinance with reasonable protections. If we attempt to pass an ordinance to block development entirely, the town will end up spending big bucks in court defending the ordinance. If we have no ordinance, we go unprotected.
I support the intent of Governor LePage's words, but not the words he chose to express himself. I agree that leaders on all levels get too wrapped up with talking to special interest groups. It is good to be informed, but beyond that, there need to be limits.
If you have an issue you would like to address with an official, send them a letter, or email and provide contact information for questions. If specific legislation is involved, you can request to speak to the official, but realize that your request may still be denied. Remember that the official represents everyone within the area he/she serves, not just you. Above all, please remember that the official has work to do, and can't achieve anything if he/she spends his/her day talking with everyone.
The meeting to which you refer was as you have stated. However, Scott Cole has researched the cost effectiveness of eliminating all police departments in the county, he was consulted by someone in Rumford regarding the study, and I do recall reading the document. It may not be part of any meeting minutes, and it may not have been part of any official board meeting. I have wasted way too much time bantering this issue with you, so I will end my comments there.
It really wasn't that important to me. However, the fact that you had to dig to find the answer on such a minute issue says quite a bit about how you choose to use your time. I have more important things to do.
Have a Nice Day!
I don't recall the date, or even the year, but Scott Cole did address the Rumford Selectmen about his plan to have all police coverage in oxford County come under the Sheriffs Department. It wasn't just Bethel. He is now the Administrator for Oxford County, so perhaps that could lend itself to a reason for his being concerned for the other towns.
Just like inside jokes, I guess you had to be there to believe it. You obviously weren't there when the proposal was made, so you don't believe it happened.
The selectmen will likely appoint two more officers. They are concerned for the safety of the officers and the liability for the town. Realistically, aside from a suggestion by former Bethel Town Manager Scott Cole that Rumford consider coverage by the Sheriff's Department, there have been no other options that have been considered by the board. They cannot just cut two officers without having a plan to maintain 24 hour coverage for the town. Many of the incidents that occur on the overnights would be unsafe for a single officer to handle alone, and officers from other departments cannot cover Rumford while doing justice to their communities. If anyone has a suggestion, please let somebody know so that it can be discussed.
The number of people on the ice today was much higher since the newspaper article. One person estimated that over 150 people were out there. Today was an awesome day to be outside, the weather was perfect. Unfortunately, my schedule kept me indoors. :(
I was merely using myself as an example of how people respond to an outspoken person in public. I would have used you, but I don't know you. I really didn't want to get into any detail about what I do outside of the political realm. It is off topic.
Entertaining, but inaccurate. I would give her high marks for creative writing.
1. I never "worked" for the local access TV station. I was the founder, and I was a volunteer. I may have served on the board, but I don't recall.
2. I do not currently, nor have I ever had a weekly TV show. in my comments, I was referring to my speaking at the televised Rumford Selectmen's meetings.
3. I do not attend any other municipal meetings in the valley. I rarely attend any others in Rumford.
4. I work for four companies, none of which is owned by any of my family members.
ArmyMom's comments just go to show how little she knows about me. It is easy to make up lies about someone.
"Ben",
As anyone who knows me, knows of me or may even think that they know me will tell you, I am quite open about my opinions wherever I go. I post here, I talk with people in public, and I am seen twice a month on TV expressing myself at the municipal selectboard meeting. I also have run a blog for a number of years, and participated in forums regarding our region. In short, I express myself A LOT. As you can see from the responses here, my openness is not as appreciated by some as it is by others, and not everyone agrees with my viewpoint. I respect people's right to disagree, however, as they say on MSNBC, "you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts".
My point is that I rarely am confronted by anyone anywhere about my opinion. Many people who disagree with me just refuse to acknowledge that I exist, and will pass by me on the sidewalk without so much as a look in my direction, but I have rarely had anyone confront me. Those who do, approach it in a respectful manner. They initiate a conversation, referencing something they saw me post, or said on TV. Most times, the only feedback I get from the public is in the form of an "attaboy" in support of my action/statement. Some of the least political people in town have encouraged me to stay on top of the town political situation.
I have had one person attempt to get me fired from my job over political views, but the coward didn't sign the complaint. My supervisor showed it to me and told me to be more careful when discussing things in the workplace.
Once verification is required, it will be easier for the SJ to bounce someone for being abusive on the forum. Currently, violators need only wait a few days and apply for an account under another email address. But when a person gets bumped using their real name, it will be more difficult to get back on.
If an employer wants to terminate my employment over my exercising my First Amendment rights, I will work somewhere else. I am not willing to sacrifice that right for anyone.
I wasn't advocating that the schedule be done as posted, just showing that more hours are possible with four people. Obviously, if you reduce the 10 hour shifts to 8, the o.t. Is eliminated. In all of the jobs I have worked, I have never heard of Sundays being overtime. Even the one union job I had only paid a small differential.
As for the children's room, there doesn't need to be complete coverage during school hours as most pre-school children don't use it alone. The programs can be scheduled when the appropriate staff are working. If coverage is needed on other days, one of the workers can work at that desk.
I have never worked in any job where the hours of operation were decided based upon the preferences of the workers. I take that back, when I was 11, I had a bottle redemption business where we picked up bottles at peopl's homes. The three of us scheduled our pickups as we wanted. But, in the real world of employment, all of the jobs have decided their hours of operation before asking my availability.
Based upon what has been posted, I understand that the Library is open 46 hours per week. It has four full time employees, each of whom work 40 hours per week. Every open hour requires at least two staff to be on duty. Now, I am no mathematical genius, but it would seem that the building could be open additional days based upon this information. As a matter of fact, based upon staffing, it could be open as much as 80 hours per week.
Let's take a look....
Day Staff #1 Staff #2 Staff #3 Staff #4
Monday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) off off
Tuesday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) 1-8 (7) 1-8 (7)
Wednesday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) 1-8 (7) 1-8 (7)
Thursday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) 1-8 (7) 1-8 (7)
Friday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) off off
Saturday off off 8-6 (10) 8-6 (10)
Sunday off off 9-6 (9) 9-6 (9)
40 hours 40 hours 40 hours 40 hours
Of course, you would want to adapt the shifts adjust for vacation and sick time coverage, but with four hours of overlap, it is possible.
I have tried, ad nauseum, to find a solution to the weekend hours problem that was presented. Every suggestion I made was shot down. Unfortunately, it seems that this is how the town runs too, which leaves no question as to why it is in decline.
I can hardly wait for the new restrictions so that you and armymom, candiceanne, and certain other users can figure out who you are. It seems that you and armymom share a similar profile description. Strange. :)
I have no idea why armymom felt the need to invest so much time on that discussion. The logical response to my question would have been to identify that the inter-library loan program not only requires a bonded person to be present to exchange the items, but it also requires the library to be open at the time. Had that been clarified at the beginning, there would have been much less discussion.
Credibility comes, not from being right, but from being careful. When an issue arises, I tend to do one of four things:
1. Ask Questions - If I don't know something (like the inter-library loan policies), I will ask questions until I receive some clarification
2. Qualify My Statements - If I am unsure instead of saying "the Charter says..." I will say " I believe the Charter says.... ... and you may want to check"
3. Make a statement as fact - If I know the answer, obviously, I will make the statement as a fact. Online, I often will cut and paste supporting information.
4. Say Nothing - In instances where I have no opinion, or choose not to express an opinion, I will just say nothing.
Nobody knows everything, but through years of education and experience, some have a better grasp of a subject than others. I would never try to tell anyone about paper making, mechanical/engineering, or construction, but I do have education and experience in other fields. That does not make me smarter or better than anyone else, just as being unfamiliar with engineering doesn't make me any less intelligent than people in that field. We all have strengths and weaknesses, and those who respect the strengths and weaknesses of others are the ones who gain the most credibility.
I don't know about the other funds, but the CDBG and TIF suggestions that were made ended in a no vote after brief discussion. You see, each town meeting costs money, and with all of the extra meetings we had this year, the funds are getting low, to the point that they are likely going to have to reallocate funds to be able to afford the annual town meeting this year. If we have another special town meeting, they may have had to have another ballot to allow the funds necessary.
Actually, I don't spend that much time at the town hall. I do stop in each morning to say good morning, but unless there is something pressing going on, I usually don't get wrapped up in talking about town affairs. Of the brief time I do spend, most of it is chatting with John or Tom when they aren't busy. On the average day, I would say I spend less than a half hour between all offices.
One hotel chain has already looked at a parcel of land for a motel. It would have been a lovely location with ample parking and a beautiful setting with minimal impact to the surrounding area. Unfortunately, the location was disqualified due to laws regarding setbacks from the wetlands that exists on the property. I have been told that announcement of the feasibility study has generated interest from other chains as well. My guess is that one of them will find a decent location within the next few months.
I don't have to research that one. I was there when the decision was made. The sole reason they do not want to go after these opportunities is because they don't want to have to hold another special town meeting to get the authorization. It is simple as that.
"Pidacks and his crew and equipment blasted and removed 8,000 yards of ledge to widen the Nordic competition stadium by 75 feet to enable mass starts of 250 skiers, Arsenault said."
I am fully aware of the various positions at the library, and their functions. I was less than fully aware of the requirements of the Inter-Library Loan program, but through a long process, I have been able to glean the pieces that I was missing. It would seem that the Inter-Library Loan program, while valuable, forces libraries to make very tough decisions when budgets are cut. I would hope that those who complain that the library is closed on the weekends would come to understand why this decision was made.
Jake,
You are correct in stating that BMOM is not the economic engine of our community, but please be willing to acknowledge that it does contribute to our economy. Even though many of the participants and spectators are forced to stay outside of Rumford due to a lack of sufficient lodging, their participation at BMOM is a valuable tool in attracting businesses to town. Every activity we have that brings people from outside of the valley is part of the overall attractiveness of the valley. Although some scoff at the concept of a chain motel coming to town, it is possible and more likely with BMOM being open. A chain motel will serve as an anchor for other businesses. Handled properly, we could see a seasonal influx of people over the next 10 years. The town has people working on attracting businesses. If our community can come together to work on developing more activities, the valley would be better off. We cannot just sit and complain that nobody is doing anything, without asking what we are doing.
This blows away the misinformation stated in the comments section of another article stating that the ledge was removed by Town of Rumford employees. What kind of world do we live in where you can't believe an anonymous post by someone with absolutely no accountability for what they write?
I will be so glad to see the SJ comments when people are identified and accountable.
"Special Town meetings shall be called by the Board of Selectpersons to fill vacancies in elective
offices as provided in Article XX of this Charter, and for no other purpose unless in the opinion of the
majority of the Board a critical circumstance exists relating to Town affairs or the welfare of its citizens
is deemed to be presented and which requires prompt action by the voters in special meeting."
Dialog involves a series of questions and answers, each delving further into a topic. A question/comment about hours leads to discussion about the inter-library loan program, which leads to discussion about its requirements, and then to discussion of other facilities that do not participate. It is all very logical and sequential. Your comment regarding someone having to constantly repeat the same answer is not relevant to what actually occurred. I am sure that your name-calling directed toward me was merely a reflection of insecurities you may have in communicating with someone who thinks things through, rather than making knee-jerk responses. If the discussion is too intense for you to follow, please do not participate. I do hate having to explain things out to people who are too lazy to think.
Okay, well that explains it then. Our children are being deprived of weekend library services so that our library can serve as a central service center for most of Northern Oxford County in the Inter-Library Loan program.
I believe that the Librarian is a full time employee receiving a set salary. What prevents him from being available to receive the books, leaving other employees to cover weekend hours? I understand that there would need to be another person there for the Library to be open for business, but if the administrator is present to handle administrative duties and handle the inter-Library delivery, wouldn't that free up some weekend hours?
I can hardly wait for the SJ changeover when the gutless faceless anonymous posters will disappear and everyone will be accountable for what they say. You people make me sick.
I remember them discussing using the town workers, but at the last meeting, I thought I heard Roger Arsenault say housed someone else who did more than they had expected for the cut rate fee they paid. I may have remembered it wrong.
I am aware of how the library inter-library loan program works. However, there is no reason why those items cannot be exchanged at the municipal building.
I never said I didn't support the library. I just pointed out that the weekend cuts were a choice that they made, not something they were forced to do. I would rather see money go to the library than to an outside entity.
Did anyone else realize that during this financial crisis, BMOM spent money to blast ledge, expand trails, build a new timing shack, and convert the old lodge (which was full of code violations when it was closed) into waxing suites for skiers to rent? That sounds like much more than $51,000 worth of improvements, but they still couldn't open without the "gift" from Rumford.
The Librarian and Board of Trustees have the authority to decide when the building is open. The cut in budget did not force them to decide to cut the weekends.
I don't speak on zoning issues, nor state regulations as that is not my area of expertise. I am glad that Phil has chimed in here to clarify those issues.
Despite the fact that I believe that Candice writes under a number of names, and you are another anonymous poster whose "knowing' them (her) means nothing as we don't know your credibility, I will not accuse you of being Candice.
I agree that the area motels are struggling. The Blue Iris is run by some top quality people. They work hard to keep their property and rooms looking good. The Linnell Motel has recently been the subject of less than favorable reviews by people who once stayed there on a regular basis. I am not sure what has caused the decline, but it was always top notch when I worked there. If either establishment were affiliated with a chain, it may do better. Name recognition and online booking systems through a common web site do wonders. Also, both could benefit from better marketing both online and in print. However, those can be costly, and risky for businesses with limited revenue.
A chain motel listed as being within minutes of skiing, and snowmobile trails would likely do very well. It would attract more people to the area, and likely cause enough business to increase volume to the other two establishments. It would also attract other chain businesses. Impression is everything, and if our community has a number of chain businesses, the average traveler would perceive the community as being more developed and be more likely to stop, or even make Rumford a destination. We would need to improve our offerings in recreation and other activities, but the added volume of visitors would make it more feasible.
If we found a theme for our downtown, and then encouraged businesses around that theme, we could potentially bring our downtown back to life. Some downtown areas are based upon crafts, others on antiques. We would need ton work with the landlords and existing businesses to find what would work for our community. We are not likely to have the same downtown as Farmington, because they have a residential college in their town. We aren't going to be like Bethel, because they have two major routes going through their community, and we only have one. We need to find our identity, and develop it. Once it is established, it is essential that we promote it. Not by putting an ad in the Times, nor the SJ, but by getting a write up in Yankee or Down East, which is read by tourists.
By the way, this can all be done without the involvement of the town leaders. We the citizens can come together to make a positive difference in our community. I suggest an independent downtown development committee be formed to start working on this.
The super reunion monument that stands in Memorial Park has nothing to do with bringing two schools together. It was a reunion of everyone who graduated from Stephens high School. The more recent super reunion was a great event, but hardly worthy of a monument. Yes there was a rivalry between the two schools in the past, but as people mature beyond adolescence, they eventually understand that such things need not extend into contempt for a neighboring town.
It is not within my nature to call to harass citizens over political views. I do have a playful banter with certain selectmen, in the same way that some people tease each other over the Red Sox/Yankees. I was unaware that Candice was still experiencing illness.
I do not proclaim anything. I offer suggestions based upon my knowledge and experiences. You can think of me as you will, but I am not uneducated, and I tend to research a topic before presenting any kind of so-called expertise. If you listen carefully, you will hear me use qualifiers such as "I believe" and asking questions rather than proclaiming truth. The only area where I tend to be more confident, is the Rumford Charter and Ordinances, but even there, I often couch my comments with the phrase "I believe".
Candice does present some good points from time to time. However, I will reserve comment beyond that.
Strange, if the town fails to do anything, you complain, if they do something, you complain. Please make up your mind. Oh, and isn't it strange that CommonSense and Candice's "sister" posted within minutes of each other. How stoooopid do you think we are?
Strange, if the town fails to do anything, you complain, if they do something, you complain. Please make up your mind. Oh, and isn't it strange that CommonSense and Candice's "sister" posted within minutes of each other. How stoooopid do you think we are?
Just because you are unaware of something, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. If you think of it, the monument has been there for a number of years, and the Super Reunion of which you speak happened this summer. I don't believe that the attendees of this recent Super Reunion would be vain enough to need a monument to themselves for holding such an event. However, when you bring together the alumnae from multiple decades to honor an institution that has served the community, and is about to be torn down, that is likely to generate a monument. Actually, I think the SR was held before the Stephens was slated to be demolished. It was back when the Stephens High School Alumni Association was looking to raise money to put a pool in the building. So, we are talking back at least 15 years. Perhaps you were still living in Florida operating your multi-million dollar pool supply company at the time.
As for your identity, I seriously doubt that there is any difference between you, Candice, and whatever the other name was that she was posting under a while back. The three of you all type long winded letters with the exact same substance, conceptual mis-givings, and typographical mistakes. I can understand having the same opinion, but for you all to share the exact same writing style and errors, is way beyond coincidence. Also, you often claim to have attended (or not attended) the same meetings as Candice. I have been at hose meetings, and know who was there, and what they believe, and how they express themselves, and how closely they agree with Candice. There is no way that you are not her.
Ms. Sense,
It would seem that you are once again speaking through the wrong orifice. The Super Reunion for which that monument was placed included all graduates of Stephens High School. The Committee was headed by Jimmy Sullivan, who I assure you never attended Rumford High School. There have been super reunions since the one for which the monument was placed, but the monument was not placed for those events.
In the future, please make sure you know what you are saying before opening your mouth or approaching a keyboard. We would all be very grateful.
Well people gon be people aint nobody gon change,
But we can keep it peaceful if we leave it the same,
If you don’t go there, don’t go there, don’t go there,
no, don’t go there,
Sorry Frank, I will not let your comments go unchallenged.
First, the blue ox would work if our community were at a different point. Unfortunately, our downtown has little left to attract tourist interest. But this is a national trend in retail. It is a good idea, with bad timing and a poor design.
Second, as I stated to you when I visited you recently, YOU as a member of the community can do quite a bit to get things moving. Len Greaney has made progress toward achieving his concept of a Memorial Park of which we can be proud. The things you have mentioned all take time and labor. You had no problem volunteering your time to remove the trees in front of the town hall, but now you have a problem helping to design a location for the SHS Super Reunion Memorial at the SHS Memorial Park?? As for placing a fighter plane or helicopter in the Memorial Park, I say it is too small. Instead, get a small tank.
Third, How dare you insinuate that Beverly Crosby spends her entire day smoking?? That is way out of line. Should we go back and evaluate your performance as a letter carrier????? What is a 701 abuser?? Did you always deliver the Sears Christmas Catalog, or did you leave it to be done on your day off? You wanna go there???? I "go there". I wrote the brochure on "going there". I belong to the "there" chamber of commerce. :)
Beverly spends her work week managing the programs of the Growth Council. There is much to be done. Just because they are not doing what you or I wish they could do, it doesn't mean that they are doing nothing. Bev takes her designated breaks, and yes, I believe she may smoke during that time. But it is way out of line for you to insinuate that she gets paid to do nothing but smoke. SHAME ON YOU FRANKIE!!!!!!!!
Every soldier who dies serving his/her country deserves a military funeral. We may not agree with the mission, nor the tasks to which they are assigned, but those decisions are made by military and political leaders who, we hope, are seeking to achieve some task that helps to maintain our security as a nation. We may not understand the rationale, but that does not make the life of a soldier any less valuable. It is my hope that, one day, our politicians will learn how to make peace, not war.
The board has stated that they are not going to ignore the potential impact of wind power. they will be bringing in independent consultants to discuss these issues.
For those who didn't notice, the board is going to take the state template and add in aspects of the previously proposed ordinance. Many of the issues addressed in the defeated ordinance are not even addressed in the state template. The end result will be a hybrid between the two that documents.
This is one reason I don't support a council form of government. It is too easy for them to go astray. I don't know what is happening in Auburn, but I would be suspicious of any council that allows such actions to be done at a single meeting. Robert's Rules of Order has sufficient flexibility to allow for things to get done. Standing rules and special rules can be suspended, but the standing city documents should not be allowed to be suspended. Unfortunately, under a council form of government, the people have no power to make permanent changes.
Are you trying to tell me that Brad and Ron are both slinging the same line of BS?? Those two couldn't agree on the day of the week, much less sling the same line of bull. :)
If regular brakes fail, I would expect any truck driver to use whatever means possible to keep safe. Most trucks approach the hill at 50mph and then use the engine brake all of the way down the hill. If a trucker is operating at the posted recommended speed of 20mph, there should be no problem getting down the hill safely.
The board is restricting the use of engine brakes on a moderately used back road that affects a handful of houses, but certain members refuse to restrict engine brake on Falls Hill which affects over a hundred in-town homes. Restricting the brake would force the trucks to slow down BEFORE the hill and make the area safer. There is no reason for trucks to approach Falls Hill at 50 mph, and then use the engine brake.
The sound from using engine brake on Falls Hill can be heard for a long distance. Both Brad Adley and Ron Theriault have stated that they hear the brakes. based upon the distance they live from Falls Hill (in opposite directions), I would contend that engine brake usage should be curtailed during sleeping hours.
It is sort of when I joked with one of our selectmen about his new modular home being in violation of our Charter because it wasn't facing north. Of course, I was joking, these radical right-wing republicans are serious.
I do enjoy witty banter from time to time, and I do tend to dine at the Fortune Cookie Restaurant on Congress Street every Sunday around 6pm, but they don't have a round table, and I have yet to be joined by anyone else on a regular basis. :)
This only goes to prove that the Republican Party (or as I call them the loose association formerly known as the Republican Party) has no interest in what is best for the nation; they only care about being in charge to assure that they can benefit themselves.
There is no ethics in Washington nor Augusta. The political parties have used the system to limit participation. Both parties are controlled by one or two individuals who have complete control over what happens in our country.
I believe that it is time to oust lobbyists, political parties, and other legalized-organized crime from our government.
I agree that a majority of the voting public want wind power, but I believe that there is a split between those who want to regulate it and those who want it to have free reign. Based upon the experiences of other communities, it would seem that an ordinance of some sort is advisable. Although it seems easy to just have a meeting and get it done, the board now has to do the job the committee failed to do, including bringing in experts to discuss reasonable restrictions. They could throw together something in one night, but it wouldn't necessarily be sufficient to assure that the wind towers are managed responsibly.
The previous ordinance was voted down by the people. We cannot deduce from their vote what their motivation was, but the message was that they did not want THAT ordinance. There is nothing indicating the "will of the people" was anything more than to not use that ordinance. There was not question indicating what the board should or should not do, so anyone who is stating that the board is "going against the will of the people" is off base.
There have been a group of about 30 Rumford residents showing up at these meetings. They have expressed their opinion, but that is no mandate. Our country was built on rule by the people in the polls, not by mob rule. Just because a few choose to be vocal, it does not mean that the board should follow suit.
The board has indicated mixed views on how to proceed. Mr. Buccina has indicated that he wants to start with the failed ordinance proposal, but the remainder seem inclined to start with the template ordinance. After the problems that were experienced passing the General Assistance budget this year, it would be unwise for the board to waste people's time and town money proposing an ordinance that would be essentially the same as the failed proposal.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
I don't know if she is a citizen, I presume that she is based upon the fact that she has held public office. However, she spoke during a public hearing, which by definition is open to public comment, not just citizen comment.
The board needs to extend the moratorium to give them time to put together a reasonable ordinance (the one that should have been proposed in the first place). The ordinance will put reasonable restrictions on the wind power companies and provide requirements for upkeep and removal of towers when they are no longer in use.
There is a secondary signal light as a vehicle approaches the island on route 108. The light can be seen from the middle of the bridge. The only way to run a red light, is to speed up when you see the light turn yellow. If you are going the posted 25 mph speed limit, there is ample time and distance for a vehicle to stop.
The irony in going under speed limit would be if the police pulled me over for impeding traffic. While the officer is busy writing my ticket, the idiot in the truck behind me goes down falls hill, spills, and kills three people.
It is simple physics, if a vehicle is traveling slower, they have less of a chance of killing you when you apply the brakes for a road hazard. When a vehicle is traveling too close behind me, I slow down. I really don't want to end up dead because of the ignorance of somebody else.
Each of the yellow cab trucks have a number on them. The phone number of the office is on their cab. When you have a problem with one of them (and you will), call the number and report them. Once the dispatcher stops laughing, and tells you there is nothing they can do about it, you can call the police, who will tell you the same thing.
If the police and company cannot stop these menaces from terrorizing the road, what should we do?
For the sake of safety, perhaps we should all go 5mph under the speed limit in town when we have a semi on our tail. Go ahead and disagree if you want, but there used to be a concept called "safety first".
Perhaps now authorities will do something about the speeding trucks on Falls Hill. They get a running start on Route 108, run the red light at the bottom of Congress St, and shoot up the hill at 40-50 mph. We are so lucky nobody has been killed. The trucks with the yellow cabs seem to be the worst offenders. :(
You can disagree all you want, that is what the process is right now. You don't have to agree with the process, but that is what it is. Yes, the people approve amounts of money, but do they look at the capital budgets??? I don't think so.
Every town needs some equipment. What we have in the capital funds is barely enough to replace what is needed. Yes, they can cut back on the fleet, but they need at least a few plow trucks and a bucket loader. Anyone who thinks we can run a town without any equipment is being irrational.
According to the Town Charter and ordinances the Finance Committee is responsible for all financial planning for the town. They are scheduling meetings with the town departments to discuss their capital plans. The selectmen will have to work within those plans.
I am glad to see that Carlo is getting our town back on track, following the rules.
Any resident interested in serving on the Finance Committee when openings occur, should submit a letter of interest to the Town Moderator through the Town Clerk's office.
Mr. Thacker claims he did not know about the initiated article process, and I take him at his word. However, he being a candidate for State Representative, I would hope that he would be more aware of how our town government works. How can he become an effective leader on the state level without understanding how the lower levels of government operate?
I am not a supporter of career politicians, but there is something to be said for those who "come up through the ranks". If you are interested in representing me on the state level, you had better understand how our town runs. This is easily achieved through participation on a board or committee, then some time on the board of selectman.
If you start out with T-ball, and Little League and Babe Ruth League, you will be a much better player when you try out for the Varsity team. You can understand the basic mechanics from the stands, but you don't learn the strategy.
Hmmm, I thought Mr. Thacker was a Republican. Most Republicans I know don't believe in government hand outs :)
Candice,
I am not sure which meeting you attended, but at the one I attended, Carlo did not say that he expected taxes to rise. What. Politician in their right. Mind would do that? Carlo stated that it all depends upon things like sudden and severe and other. Factors. As they say on MSNBC, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
The ad in the Times PROMISED us a tax INCREASE. How are we going to reach 30 mils if we have tax decreases? These "fiscal responsibility" folks expect an increase, so Carlo had better go back and find his error. He must have missed something somewhere. When he was adding the numbers, maybe he sneezed and missed a department or two. Perhaps a mis-placed comma somewhere. How could we possibly have a decrease?? :)
If it was a reply to your post, it was intended as a reply to you. I often get you and candiceanne mixed up because you have very similar opinions and writing styles.
Candice,
Please let us know when you have the draft of the scientifically high-tech visionary Comprehensive Plan ready for review, and thanks for volunteering the many hours to get it done. Now, that's what I call dedication. :)
Frank,
I challenge you to publicly show me where in the Charter, Ordinances, Maine State Law, The Maine Constitution, Federal Law or the IU.S. Constitution there is a distinction between the rights of a citizen and the rights if a tax paying citizen.
If you want to spend lots of money on legal fees to defend the most restrictive ordinance in the state, then approve this, But if you would rather see the selectmen come up with a reasonable ordinance for your approval in June, vote this one down.
First of all, the board in Rumford has yet to bicker this year. Your not knowing that proves that you are not involved in the town, and do not attend meetings.
Secondly, the supporters of the mountain have relied upon the donation from the town for decades instead of doing fundraising. An initiated article is a donation, not an entitlement. Since it costs so much to ski, the donation to Black Mountain has been termed "welfare for the wealthy" for a while now. I understand that BMOM costs less than many other mountains, but a family of four working at Wal-Mart cannot afford to blow an entire weeks pay check to ski for one day. People expect a subsidized entity to be more affordable.
Third, providing the people a ski resort is not a mandatory function of government. The town has no responsibility to find a way to keep a non-profit agency in business. It is mostly the nostalgia of the town that provides you with the ongoing town support. Even some of the people who help establish the mountain are backing away.
Black Mountain has grown too large. The leadership has attempted to make it into a commercial mountain, losing the family feeling that once existed. The egos and arrogance of the leadership will eventually destroy the organization as we know it. Within the next few years, Maine Winter Sports will be forced to take control away from the board and find a different way to protect its investment.
I was glad to see that the majority of people were not swayed by the giant ad in the Times. The ad didn't address the issues specifically, and gave no department specific rationale for gutting the General Assistance budget.
Yes, times are tight, and our government has to work to find savings where it can, but we must make cuts in a responsible manner. The voters rely upon the board to make recommendations that are responsible, because most voters don't research the impact of such cuts. But it is important for the people to express their opinions at meetings and hearings. There was very little attendance at any of the meetings where this budget was discussed, leading one to believe that the people accepted the budget as it was presented. Our government cannot work for you if you don't let them know what you want. Gutting budgets in the voting booth costs the town more as additional elections have to be held. We can save thousands of dollars if the people attend the budget hearings and express themselves.
I don't blame the Democrats for being leery about participating in a forum hosted by someone who appears to be so well nested in the Republican camp. If the shoe were on the other foot, i would expect the same from the Republicans.
The Franchise Fee is a Cable TB related fee that comes directly to the town. They allocate some of it to Channel 7, and blow the remainder into the air as fireworks. Whats left goes to reducing taxes.
One thing I can say about Frank is that he never holds my opinion against me. Even after reading these comments, he will still greet me on the street. We may discuss the comments, but we are still on a friendly basis.
Your comments prove that you will not rest until Thelma is unemployed. One has to wonder why you and others are so intent on getting rid of her. She has continually reduced the General Assistance budget over the years, and has done a good job of screening people who don't qualify. It would seem that you just don't like the rules the town must adhere to, so you are blaming her.
Yes, the town found additional work for her. They did this by splitting a full time position in the town clerk's office (I don't believe the other other person sharing the position receives benefits), and having Thelma work in the tax collector's office two days a week. She took a pay cut due to the pay rate for the other positions, but maintains her benefits. And that is the big deal here, isn't it? You want to take away Thelma's benefits. Well, you did nothing to make changes in that department when you were in office, but now that you have joined us on the outside, you yell and scream and accuse those who remained in office of wrongdoing.
This is a witch hunt pure and simple and you should be ashamed of yourself for taking part in it.
As for me, I call it as I see it, and don't you DARE accuse me of being part of any conspiracy. I have no allegiances in town politics except the town charter and the best interest of the town. Everything I have said was accurate. You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts. The delay in approving the General Assistance budget is the sole responsibility of the Concerned Citizens for Fiscal Responsibility for using political games and misinformation to trick the voters into voting against a budget that worked. You know as well as I that most voters rely upon what they read in the newspaper to make decisions on how they vote. They can approve any amount they like, but they will still end up paying tens of thousands of dollars to those who need it as required under state law.
I don't expect you to agree with me. In my experience, you usually make up your mind, and no amount of convincing can change it. Unfortunately, there are a large number of lemmings out there who are easily fooled by your fabricated reality.
The turmoil of the past few years has been both a financial drain on the town and a distraction from the things that need to get done. The current board members do get along and discuss things (often to death), but have difficulty committing to much. They seem timid to act, likely in fear of causing more turmoil. It is a thankless position that doesn't allow any room for mistakes. If they support enforcing the building code, they are attacked by the landlords, if they don't they are attacked by those who want our town cleaned up. Most issues have two sides, and this board seems to be riding the fence on almost every issue.
Carlo has spent most of his time cleaning up from previous Town Managers. He has tied up many loose ends, and worked to coordinate response to the mess caused by the repetitive voting on the General Assistance budget, as well as the other town meeting issues. It will be nice to see what he can achieve once these issues are cleared up. However, I have told both the board and Carlo that you cannot make an omelet without breaking some eggs. The board and Town Manager need to be willing to take a position that is in the best interest of the majority of the citizens after fully looking into an issue. Wishy-washy leadership will not achieve anything.
Back when I was on the board, I stated that we needed to build the tax base to avoid higher taxes. That was over 20 years ago, and not much has been done. N.O.T.E.D.->RVGC has made marginal efforts to promote Rumford. This is primarily because they are a regional organization and partially because the have saddled themselves with the Tech Center. The Chamber of Commerce, on which we rely to promote the area has driven away members due to domineering leadership. I give credit to those who revived it back in the late 1980s, but am saddened at what it has become. It serves it's members, but cannot be relied upon to be the sole source for promoting Rumford.
One reason for the lack of progress, is the lack of vision and planning. We have a Comprehensive Plan that was created and approved by the voters, but it literally sat on a shelf for many years after the primary project the information center (a.k.a. Ron Theriault's house of pee) was completed. I give credit to the Park Commission for finding a way to move ahead with some of the projects, but most everything else fell by the wayside.
Our infrastructure has fallen into disrepair due to special projects. JL fought for the walking trail along the riverbank by the library. I was informed that some of the money for that project came from the sidewalk fund. Look at our downtown sidewalks now. Some of the money to develop the roads for the industrial and business parks came from the roads fund. Meanwhile, we have roads in Swift River park that haven't been re-surfaced since they were built in the 1960s. Yes, the industrial and business parks are important to us, and yes, they have expanded our tax base, but the remainder of the town has been left to suffer. I fully support fund integrity. When money is allocated for a particular use, it should go to that use. If you have a special project, it needs to be approved by the voters, not finagled in a back room deal, shifting funds. I believe that our current board has the capacity to function in this manner, it is just a case of whether or not they have the integrity to do so.
I would be interested to see Jay's budget. I would speculate that this amount does not include the monies paid out, but merely administrative/supplies.
The selectmen met last night with a full agenda. Unfortunately, the only stories worth writing about came from the first five minutes of the meeting. I have encouraged the town manager and selectmen to develop a plan and goals for moving forward and achieving more to improve our town, but they have not decided to do so. :(
Eddie Shurtleff held the Pennacook Valley Festival at Hosmer Field for a number of years. There were constant complaints from the few people who attended. The fireworks are much more beautiful over the water, and much better attended. Why are we taking a step backwards?
The "disagree" above only proves that some people will disagree with me regardless of what I say. The requirement that non-residents (non-member of the assembly) obtain approval to speak is not only part of Roberts Rules of Order, but also the way our town has been handling the issue since town meetings began. You may disagree with the policy, but the procedure is well established.
It is sad that you feel so threatened by CandiceAnne's comments that you need to resort to personal attacks. Nobody deserves to be dubbed the village idiot. It is rude and insensitive.
I spent many hours this summer reading and understanding the 740+ page book Roberts Rules of Order. I also have a good comprehension of the Rumford Town Charter and the applicable Ordinances. At town meeting, I have all of these documents for reference if needed, as well as the competent guidance of our Town Attorney. At the last meeting, the only correction made to me personally is when I misread a date.
As they say on MSNBC; You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
I am glad that I live in Rumford where the board gets along with each other, and the town manager is up-front with both the board and the citizens. It has been my pleasure to be involved with my town government over the past few months.
Unlike Lisbon, our town runs under a charter and selectmen-town manager plan which permits the people to be involved and have significant input as to how the town runs. Since the turmoil of the past, our town has become politically aware, and now people attend the meetings as a matter of interest, not just to throw stones or watch the circus. I believe that the people of our town feel empowered to be active participants in our government, as opposed to those who have to bang at the drawbridge of their government in under a town council.
When you give up your selectmen, you give away the authority of the people. You rely upon seven people to make all decisions for the town without any significant accountability, except for their reelection. In a selectmen form of government, the people have the authority to take action to correct errors without the consent of the elected leaders. I enjoy our democracy and am quite happy we never resorted to an autocratic form of government.
In what word do selectmen and Town Managers have knowledge on how voting machines are programmed? I asked the question because it was relevant to the discussion, but it was not expected that anyone would have the answer. These questions need to be asked of those who work for the state who are familiar with these machines. The town is scheduled to get new voting machines soon, they haven't even been bought yet. How is anyone to know what functions exist on a piece of machinery that hasn't even been bought?
The rules for changing the Charter are addressed by state law. However, under home rule, our Charter allows for the board to call for a special town meeting to address many issues, including charter changes. I refer you to the "critical circumstance" reference used in re-addressing the Black Mountain issue.
Are we going to let Hollywood Slots wet diaper movement sway us to what they want? Of course there needs to be limitations on competition, if not, a casino could open in a nearby community. Common sense is essential here folks. Anything that is said by this anti-casino group is worthless because they work for the competition. Let the people decide without the politics.
I make all kinds of recommendations as a citizen. There were other recommendations submitted ahead of time (as was mine) that they chose not to address as well. My point is that the secret ballot method took away the power of the people to change the amount. Now we are looking at possibly eliminating the Finance Committee. What's next, making the Select Board into a city council with almost omnipotent power?? I don't think so!
I was there last night when they decided in 10 minutes how they wanted the charter amended. Yes, they still have to vote on it officially, but that is just a formality. The only other citizen there was Roger Arsenault, so unless you are him, or one of the members of the press, you can't go around calling me wrong.
I submitted a suggestion where the two amounts are sent to Town Meeting where the people decide which one goes on the ballot. It was not brought up until they had all agreed on the "Reconciliation Plan". It would seem that they don't want the people meddling in their business.
Having a charter allows us to have local control over many things. Mr. Buccina has stated for years that he did not support the charter. It is not just this incident that has brought out these feelings. Every time he mentions the charter, he states that it is too old and poorly written. Well, yes it is old, but most of the items that cause problems were inserted within the past few years. The problem is not that the charter is old, it is that the amendments that have been made were either not thought out fully, or drafted by people who were trying to achieve an ulterior motive.
Our nation's Constitution is even older than the Town Charter, as is our state constitution, but i don't hear calls to have them eliminated. They are all there to give the citizens the right to direct how our nation/state/towns operate. There are couple of things that need to be fixed in our charter, but let's not throw it out just because it does its job in regulating how our town functions. If the charter is getting in the way of what you want to do, perhaps you should consider if you should be doing it in the first place.
In the meantime, it is essential that any potential changes to the charter be thought through carefully, and not hastily made. Take time to consider all possible alternatives rather than rushing through one idea. The process of drafting a constitutional amendment takes months, but the process of drafting a charter change takes minutes. Then some wonder why we end up having problems.
Wednesday
Rumford Selectmen: 6pm: Special meeting/workshops to discuss an alternate wind power ordinance, approve the Black Mountain/General Assistance Ordinance, and discuss a charter amendment to change the way financial items are presented to voters.
I agree that the townspeople need to be protected from harm, but where it is the townspeople (as the legislative body) who make the rules, I would be curious as to whether or not they could sue the town for not passing a strict enough ordinance.
Despite the comments by one prominent former town leader, the risk to the town of significant legal costs for approving an ordinance that is too restrictive is a reality. Resources informed me yesterday that the Dixmont ordinance is facing a legal challenge. As stated in the meeting, there is no way to determine if a judge would impose a financial penalty against the town, but it is certain that the legal costs would be significant.
Back when I was on the Rumford Board of Selectmen, the budget for the town attorney was half of what it is today. I understand that rates increase, but the major factor in the doubling of this budget is the number of issues that require legal advice and/or action. This year, the voters approved $28,000 for the town attorney. That is more than many Rumford Residents earn.
Let's be smart and make sure that whatever is put before the voters won't end up costing us more down the road. If this ordinance meets that test, so be it.
Please note that I am neither pro-wind nor anti-wind, but I am concerned for the fiscal well-being of our town.
She was driving fast enough to lift the rear end of a 20,000 pound truck into the air and bend its steel bumper? It would be interesting to find out exactly what speed she was doing. Is there a physicist in the house?
I guess that I too would be visibly shaken if I totaled my vehicle with no insurance. Strange that she wasn't shaken enough at the concept of rear-ending a 20,000 piece if steel to stop at the scene of the crime. Somebody is going to need to get an additional job to pay for the damages. :(
It is my understanding that BMOM operates the mountain at a loss most years. I don't see where Maine Winter Sports receives any money from the mountain. I understand Maine Winter Sports to be a non-profit agency that coordinates the development of skiing related projects. The Libra Foundation provides money for capital projects, not for operations. Those funds are the sole responsibility of the local committee who manage the mountain.
The amount that BMOM has received over the years has gone down. They have had to become more and more independent of town funds over the years. They have been fortunate to have the participation of the Libra Foundation. Where would they be with a non-compliant lodge without the private funding?
As we have learned by this process, anything can be done at anytime if it is declared a critical circumstance related to town affairs 0or the welfare of its citizens.
It seems that the board is becoming tired of addressing both issues and just wants to do whatever has to be done to get it over with. The Superior Court Justice ruled that the town must hold a vote on BMOM, based upon the Town Charter. From what was said at the Saturday meeting, it seems that some, of not all board members present are expecting the Finance Committee to rubber stamp the $51,000 request to avoid another three way vote. However, if the Finance Committee chooses, they can also avoid a three way vote by recommending $0. There will still be three options on the ballot, but two will be for the same amount, so there will be no question on the validity of combining the votes from the two amounts. The reason there will still be three choices, is because the Charter, as written, requires it.
I disagree with Mr. Puiia that the problem is old legislation meeting new legislation, it is a problem of poorly written legislation. It is harder to change the Town Charter than it is an Bylaw, so it would seem that somebody decided to make the changes in the Bylaws to avoid having to go through the Charter change process. Much of this should have been caught by previous boards and previous Town Attorneys. When the Bylaws were renamed to Ordinances, the top 10 chapters should have been moved to the Charter, since they pertain to the operation of the government, and not Ordinances. There have been many failures in the tweaking of these documents, and a Charter Commission can fix them.
... and you are calling into question MY maturity?? I have done nothing in this discussion but address the issue. Some people don't have the maturity to discuss things reasonably, much less be accountable for their comments. When you decide to be respectful I may respond to what you have to say. I have no use for playing in your sandbox.
It would seem by your comments that you really don't know me very well. I am not affiliated with Mr. Theriault, nor Ms. Stowell-Norris. Yes, I communicate with them from time to time, but I communicate with many people throughout the community on a regular basis. I would appreciate the opportunity to sit down and talk with you sometime.
It seems to me that there are some people who don't support Mr. Puiia, and just like in national politics, those who don't support a particular public figure fail to allow that person to be human and make mistakes. If you don't support Mr. Puiia as Town Manager, or Mr. Carey as Town Attorney, that is your right, but please remember that both are human, and have the ability to make mistakes. Being as close to the process as I am, I can tell you that this was a bona-fide mistake.
The election procedures are in the Charter, and the Finance Committee duties are in the Ordinances. They were following the procedure in the Charter, and didn't realize that the Ordinance had an affect on the process. We already had one vote on the General Assistance ("welfare") budget without the review, proving that I too missed the requirement previously.
Tom Carey is not involved in the process unless the Town Manager asks for a legal opinion. Each legal opinion costs money, so they are not sought unless a question arises. Based upon what was in the Charter, there was no question until I stumbled upon the provision in the Ordinance. The lesson has been learned, and the proper procedure is going to be followed.
Unfortunately, we no longer have Eugene Boivin monitoring Charter compliance. Being more familiar with the Charter and Ordinances than many people, I have offered to review such procedures in the future upon request.
This was a simple oversight. Regardless of qualifications, it is easy to overlook a single sentence in an ordinance that doesn't even pertain to town meetings. I found it while looking up something else. It is listed in the ordinances under Finance Committee. The town meeting provisions are found in the Town Charter under their own heading.
On my cable TV bill, there is a separate line for the franchise fee. It states that I pay $1.81 per month ($21.72/year). This money is passed to the town as a fee, just like the snowmobile registration fees. It is not tax revenue, and should not be designated for "projects"' Where it comes from cable TV fees, it should be used to benefit the cable TV subscribers. Designating two thirds for channel 7 is a good start. As for the fireworks, I cannot support the money being used for this purpose. Why should only some of the citizens pay for them and others get them without paying? If you use these funds, cable subscribers pay $21.72 each while satellite subscribers and those without either service don't have to pay. You don't see the board trying to reallocate snowmobile funds for fireworks, do you?? Both the snowmobile club and channel 7 provide a valuable service to the community. Both serve a portion of the community, while others in the community do not have access to their services. It is equitable to use the funds from those users to support services for those users.
Supporting our troops is not the same as supporting their mission. I personally support the safe return of each and every serviceman and woman. I don't agree with their mission, but we have entrusted our government to make those decisions. This is not a partisan effort. The Iraq war was started by President Bush, even though it was inherited by President Obama. Both have done what the felt was necessary to keep our country safe. I don't have to agree, but that doesn't mean that I don't support our troops.
The best way for us to honor the lives of those who perished on 9/11 is for the citizens to support the Constitution that so many have given their lives to preserve. This includes asserting the rights of every individual to worship as they believe. We cannot allow fear and stereotypes erode the basic tenants of our country's guiding document. When we change what we believe in response to the actions of others, they have won.
Why does the SJ publish articles such as this as well as a police log and Rumford Crime Bulletin that all state the same information?? Are they that desperate for content in their newspaper??
Ed,
Black Mountain is a private enterprise, but it is not a for-profit business. In order to qualify for town funding under initiated articles, an entity must be non-profit. They claim that the $51,000 is needed to keep the mountain open, but if I recall properly, it faced closure at least once before and was saved by affiliating with a parent organization. I really believe that the mountain can be run at a profit under the correct leadership.
As for the General Assistance budget, what you as a taxpayer see as reasonable may not be feasible. If you read the breakdown for the budget, it doesn't include any allocation for office supplies. All that is funded by the budget is a person to work two days a week, and the funds to provide assistance. There is no allocation for anything else. Also, the town will find that the two days a week will be insufficient, and the board will likely have to extend the amount of time the General Assistance Administrator is working in that department. The staffing changes are already being enacted, and the town manager's office is beginning to cover part of the workload of the General Assistance Administrator. This is not accounted for in the town manager's budget, and becomes a hidden cost to the town. That being said, I hope everyone votes to approve this budget, because it can't be cut any more without additional hidden costs being created. When the Town Manager ends up hiring a second secretary, you will know why.
Each year the board decides how much to give to channel 7. Their decision is only for that year. In order to establish a set amount, the citizens would have to approve it.
I saw on TV tonight that some towns are tearing up their roads because dirt roads are cheaper to maintain. With all of the 4WD trucks on the road, it would be interesting to see what would happen in Maine if we reverted to dirt roads. It would be much easier to fill a pothole!!
I heard him say 66% of the fees for fireworks. Perhaps he is using his "revising" his comments as they do in Washington when they get caught saying something wrong.
If I had your perspective on things, I would not support snowmobiling, skiing, social services, or high school football because I don't spend time doing them. Many people enjoy the programming on channel 7. Just because you don't, it doesn't mean it is worthless.
It is so nice of each cable TV subscriber to pay an additional 1.20 per month to pay for our fireworks. It seems that the town doesn't want to spend tax money on the celebration, but they are willing to raid the pockets of the cable subscribers. Hopefully, Channel 7 will be able to continue to operate on a reduced budget, and let's hope they don't ever have to replace any of their equipment, because that is what that fee is used to fund. At least they won't have a slush fund to play with anymore.
See, now when your defiant teen refuses to stay at home, you can call the police to bring them home. Of course, raising them to be respectful of others and their property helps too.
Rumford voters and leaders have a lesson to learn. They refuse to listen to those who say the stove is hot, and when they place their hand on the burner, they will get burned. I appreciate Mexico's patience in letting Rumford learn the hard way.
The proposed budget won't work, but we must pass it. Yes, it cuts personnel hours, but in doing so it reduces the effectiveness of the department. It will most likely result in MORE being paid out and less being recovered through reimbursement. It also is likely to interfere with the Town Clerk's office, because she is the only other person who is trained to administer the General Assistance funds. When the office is closed, she will be called upon to handle those who show up with an emergency need.
The strange voting procedure and wacky charter were voted in by the citizens. The board is required to follow those procedures until the people change them.
As one of those who makes sure the rules are followed, I have to agree with LisbonRes. Some people think that the town can make their own rules (formerly or informally), but they can't.
I am surprised that you would accuse me of not being informed on the proper process. Unlike many who state opinions, I have actually read the Charter and refer to it regularly when issues arise. I disagree with Mr. Carey's opinion on this matter. The Article reads quite clearly that special town meetings (elections) are to be called only for matters that pertain to town affairs or the welfare of it's citizens. This does not qualify as such under any stretch of the law. If the existing entity cannot operate the mountain, it will be sold to someone who can.
My comments regarding Mr. Arsenault were not an attack. They were facts, and comments based upon those facts. If I really wanted to attack Mr. Arsenault, I have sufficient information to really hit him hard. But that is not my style. It is funny how some people do attack personalities when votes don't go the way they would like them to.
It is my understanding that there are efforts to block the BMOM vote through legal action in the courts. It will be interesting to see if a judge provides as liberal of an interpretation as Mr. Carey. I am not involved with that effort and choose to remain unaffiliated with it.
If the vote is reconsidered, it can't be a simple up-down vote. It must be worded the same way with the same options. In my earlier comment I stated that I would vote NO, but I would correct that by stating I will vote zero.
I believe that the BMOM request for $1,000 for a private fireworks show in a year that our town didn't have a public celebration, has caused some to be less supportive of the mountain. Yes, you do bring in events, but due to our area's lack of lodging, most racers stay in Farmington or Bethel, and only eat their lunch in Rumford ( presumably at the mountain). When there are events in town I see no major influx of shoppers at the grocery store, nor diners at the3 local restaurants. I do agree that our economy will be more greatly affected if we get a large motel with at least 80 rooms.
CA,
Community Energy wouldn't even donate $5.00 to the Stephens High School Alumni Association when they were selling engraved bricks for the walkway to the monument. What makes you think that one of the wealthiest men in town is going to donate any substantial amount of money to Black Mountain? Like he said when asked for the $5.00 brick donation "what do I get out of it??". I believe his fingerprint is obstructed by the picture of President Lincoln.
I will be voting NO on the Black Mountain request if it shows up on a ballot. I support the efforts of Black Mountain, and even voted in favor funding them this past June. However, the process they are using is not intended to be twisted to provide a back door for initiated article appeals. THIS IS WRONG AND SHOULD BE VOTED DOWN to avoid setting precedent for other agencies to abuse the process to get money from the town.
I really do not see why the mountain would have to shut down. Surely, they could find savings somewhere, and perhaps a mailing asking for donations from supporters would help them get past this speed bump.
Our country was founded based upon principles. We have a Constitution for a reason. The people of Rumford have adopted a Charter which sets procedures for this situation. The Selectmen cannot just ignore the Charter. Doing so has put our town on the front page of this newspaper many times in the past. Yes, the procedure needs to be fixed, but there is currently no process to reconsider donations to private non-profit agencies. I see lots of effort to circumnavigate the rules, but I see no efforts by the supporters of Black Mountain to attempt to raise the funds on their own.
Even if the article is reconsidered, it would have to be done using the exact same process, with the exact same question as was asked originally. This would likely generate a similar ratio of votes.
The people voted to use this system, but bow that it is working the way it was designed, they are opposed to it. I would caution people to watch what they ask for, because they might just get it.
Special town meetings shall be called by the Board of Selectmen to fill vacancies in elective offices as provided in Article XX of this charter, and for no other purpose unless in the opinion of the majority of the board an exigent circumstance exists relating to town affairs or the welfare of its citizens is deemed to be presented and which requires prompt action by the voters in special meeting.
Jake,
I was paraphrasing the legal opinion of Attorney Carey as it was explained to me. I disagree with his opinion wholeheartedly. I have nothing against BMOM, and I am not supporting the blind cut-cut-cut effort that some do. I am merely looking at the procedure and making an assessment based upon the rules. The article in question addresses issues relating to town business and the welfare if Rumford citizens. It can hardly be argued that an initiated article is town business, and skiing, while beneficial to well-being is not essential to the welfare of Rumford citizens. I have asked Carlo to seek another legal opinion, but he has yet to inform me that one has been sought.
I am sorry if my choice of words lead you to believe that BMOM was in compliance with the Charter in my assessment.
Mr. Carey has issued an opinion stating that BMOM can request the Selectmen hold a special town meeting. The Charter states that such meetings need to be relating to town affairs or the welfare of its citizens. If BMOM is denied the town meeting, they must get about 500 signatures on a petition to force a town meeting. I am unsure if the selectmen can block such a meeting if called by petition. It may be possible, if someone feels strongly enough, for a citizen to appeal the decision to superior court.
It is a dangerous precedent to set. If we are willing to bend the laws for BMOM, then why shouldn't every entity who is denied an initiated article request a special town meeting and load the polls with their supporters?? I though we changed the way we vote to avoid this problem.
You don't add the cost of her salary to the budget, you subtract it from her budget. Please remember that the state reimburses 1/2 of the welfare costs to the town as well as some of the administrative costs. the actual cost to the taxpayer is much less.
I am still on the fence regarding wind power. I am open to the idea, as long as the impact on our community and citizens is minimal. However, I am not seeing a benefit to the town in this proposal a this time. They want to come to town, promising to raise our valuation by $65,000,000 which will increase our share of the school budget and perhaps other formulas. It will adversely affect the benefit the "sudden and severe" status we have with the state, which has cushioned the blow from the valuation drop this past year. The TIF will remove much of the tax revenue from the project. And, when the TIF expires, the life and valuation of the towers will be gone. There is no mention of lower electricity costs, nor plans to decommission the towers. The only benefit I can see at this point is the $50,000 in community contributions, which would likely get directed to Black Mountain. I truly want to see the benefit in this project beyond the $50,000, and I would like to see an financial impact analysis before having to vote on this issue.
I watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. it is funny to see him disprove almost every point made on FixedNews with actual quotes and facts, especially when the quotes come from the person being disproved. The Glenn Beck program, for example, is not even news, but pure opinion. Everyone who disagrees with Mr. Beck is considered to be a Nazi. If I were a Nazi, I would be offended by Mr. Beck's free use of the association.
The cost of having a second election to approve a new budget for General Assistance is equal to almost half of the supposed savings that the town will get through the budget cut.
What was sad about the meeting, is that some of the board members who had been in office the longest appeared to know the least about how the General Assistance budget works.
The social agencies have ample public locations to use to provide their services in the valley. The Conference room and auditorium at the Municipal Building remain unused much of the day. There is meeting space at the technology center that remains underused, and as you stated, some agencies have offices right in town. Between Western Maine Transportation, Community Concepts and our area taxi services, there is no reason for anyone to lack transportation.
As for cultural venues, yes the concert association folded, but the Performing Arts Committee has planned shows in the Rumford Falls Auditorium. The art gallery has not closed, it moved to the technology center where sales have increased due to it being a better location.
Any jobs that may have been created from the movement/expansion of the library would be minimal. Typically, the bid would go to an entity who either has an existing crew of experienced laborers or a general contractor who hires sub contractors. The sub contractors are usually people with whom the general contractor has worked in the the past, few of whom tend to come from Rumford. The supplies may come from area businesses, but more likely from a larger company who can afford to provide them at lower prices.
The selectmen were only approached about applying for the grant to move and expand on the library. They were not asked to apply for the grant to expand on site. The night that Mr. Aromaa made his request, I asked if he would make the request for expand on site, and he told me he couldn't because the growth committee (an advisory group with no authority whatsoever) only authorized him to request for the move and expand option. Had he asked for the expand on site authorization that night, I would lay odds that he would have received authorization.
The SSA utilization of that space was supposed to be for a kiosk, not a meeting space nor service center. The library made a decision to accept the SSA into their building, and now cry that they have no room. You have to live with the consequences of the decisions you make.
The reason that the election results were delayed, is due to the fact that the election clerks and wardens had start from scratch. When the post-it note jam occurred, they had to reset the machine. This lost the data for the ballots that had been counted through that machine. Rather than make a mistake on which ballots had or had not been counted. the Election Warden decided start over. The machines were reset and every ballot was re-entered.
An issue was raised over the unsecured ballot box during the election. Mr. Puiia had brought over the old metal ballot box from the town office, but the decision was made to continue using the tote. I can only speculate that this was due to the fact that the opening on the secured metal ballot box was slightly smaller than the ballots and could have caused damage to the ballots. I observed the operations at various times during the day, and never saw the tote unsupervised. In my opinion, though it was not locked, it might as well have been.
Aside from the unsecured ballot box, the only concern I heard was that the jam may have thrown off the calibration of the machine. Not being a voting machine tech, I cannot speak to this issue, but I have been informed that any recount for the Selectman race will be done by hand count.
The Rumford Library served the town well when we had twice as many people as we do today. The utilization of space needs to be re-evaluated. With the inter-library loan program, the Internet, and other public venues for meetings and cultural events in town, there is no need for the library to expand. I am disappointed that the people didn't recommend an extension, but we have to work within the financial means of the taxpayers. The grant money that was available was not guaranteed, and could have been as little as 1/3 of the total cost. I guess the people didn't want to pay the other 2/3.
Mr. Puiia and Ms. Giasson have been consulting with Maine Municipal Association. Any recount, once properly requested with appropriate deposit, will be scheduled and handled within the bounds of the law.
The best thing we can do to keep our town moving forward is to not move backwards.
I commended the current board for bringing peace and pride to our town government. Depending upon your viewpoint, you may feel that some should be voted out. If so, please don't replace any of them with someone who most assuredly will move our town back to where it was three years ago. We cannot afford it.
If you respect yourself so much, why don't you respect the beauty of your body? Our bodies are awesome. Take time to think of how complex the systems are. Our skin alone is amazing. Take time to admire this creation, and realize that there are but two types on this earth. Some are taller, some are shorter, some are thin, some are heavy, but the all have the same parts in the same places.
I don't understand why society teaches us to be so timid about our bodies. There is no "perfect" body, so people should not be ashamed of theirs. Some people have surgery to enhance their bodies, others for health reasons. Surgery scars are nothing to be ashamed of, they are a part of life.
If our world would learn to accept the differences between us, what wars would we have? If we cannot accept the slight differences in our personal beings, how can we accept other differences?
(That's right, I am saying that having a positive body image of oneself and others contributes to world peace)
I don't trust information from other sources. I go by what I hear or learn from direct inquiry. When people who were not at a meeting I attended attempt to argue a point based upon whet they read in the paper, I feel sorry for them. Terry is a nice man, and has worked hard to remain objective as a reporter, but somewhere between his submission and the print edition certain stories become slanted. It is hard to sell newspapers when there is nothing going on, and the press has the power to stir things up a bit.
It will be interesting to see how the Rumford election is covered now that Jolene Lovejoy has entered the race. She seemed to have someone at the SJ in her back pocket during the turmoil that characterized her last year in office. I will say that she has a lot of gall running again. She was lucky that she didn't spend time in jail for the actions she took when on the board.
According to the information presented at the meetings, the relocation grant would be for UP TO one million dollars, there would be a million dollars through fundraising, and the town would be responsible for the rest of the $3+ million dollar. In the process, the building may sustain damage while being moved, including, but not limited to collapse. There is a new slate roof on the building, which would likley sustain damage in the process. Research on Carnegie libraries show that they were intentionally place overlooking rivers.
The expansion would be $2.1 million, of which the grant would pay 1/3, and you still could fundraise a million, leaving the town to pay a much less amount ($400,000).
Bringing the building to code would cost $854,000 of which the grant may pay 1/3 (although it has never been stated), but if we have the capability to raise a million dollars through fundraising, then we wouldn't need the grant, nor to burden the taxpayers with higher taxes. I am told that the town has been offered a replacement furnace for the building, but has not yet taken advantage of the offer.
All of these decisions are moot at this point because the Library Trustees have not expressed an opinion as to what action should be taken, if any. The Library Griwth Committee is an advisory group that should be reporting to the Trustees, not the Board of Selectmen. They have no authority to request any action be taken, much less the authority to make decisions. Once the citizens have expressed their opinion in the voting box, the Selectmen likely work with the Library Trustees to take action as resources become available.
Didn't a similar protest happen in Portland earlier this year?? Also, there are fully nude protests occurring in major cities throughout the country on an annual basis.
Mr. Mackin's comments appear to be based upon ignorance and unsubstantiated statements. The bible reference is an except taken and interpreted by him to support his position. In full context, the story of Adam and Eve does not even refer to lust in any version of the bible I have read. And besides, lust is a sin on behalf of the person doing the lusting, not the person being lusted. In some cultures, lust is triggered by the sight of unclothed arms, or even faces. Where do we set the limit? Shall we mandate burquas?
The last time I checked, our country was not run by the church. There is a reason for this. Legislatures cannot mandate morality. Their job is to keep us safe from harm.
Well armymom, Town Manager Carlo Puiia informed the board at the meeting tonight that the Library Growth Committee has decided to remove it from the table. Either Mr. Puiia is a liar, or you have your information wrong.
Fact of the matter is that none of these proposals should even be heard until they are voted upon by the library trustees. The Library Growth Committee has no standing on the issue, and has no right to bring proposals to the board. Only the Library Trustees have that authority, and they have not been officially addressed.
It is my understanding that moving/building a new library is now "off the table" as an option. The efforts are now to renovate and expand the existing structure in place.
If my 12-year-old had such disrespect for others property, I would have to look in the mirror. In a town that has very little crime, it is a shame that the highest profile criminals are so little.
Please re-read my comment. I never said they don't pay rent. I said "The last time I checked, welfare did not assist homeowners. You cannot pay your mortgage, sewer bill, water bill, or homeowners insurance with welfare." I am confused by your attack, as I am on the same side of the issue as you.
If you watch any of the meetings (or ask anyone who has), you will find out that I am one of the few who attends selectmen meetings and raises concerns over spending. I asked the board to tell us where they thought the town stands, and what needs to be done to meet the needs of the people. Selectman Adley stated that he felt everything is going well, and the board needed to just assure that services (and the budget) were maintained at the current level. Selectman Sterling echoed most of the same comments. In a discussion with Mr. Adley, I expressed concern for the elderly who may be sacrificing their nutrition and medication to keep their home. Mr. Adley stated that he didn't buy it. It would seem that the lady in this article doesn't exist in the opinion of Mr. Adley. Mr. Sterling stated in a meeting that he believes retired persons should be able to support services at the same level as when they were working. Luckily, we have two conservative members of the board. Selectmen DiConzo and Belanger have advocated for cuts, but being in a minority of the board, their comments have no effect.
At this point, I believe Mr. Sterling is being opposed by Paul Lowell for the 2 year term. I don't know Mr. Lowell that well, but based upon his comments at the meetings, I would be inclined to support him rather than his opponent. The 3 year term race will be more complex. It looks like the candidates will be Mr Adley, Jeremy Volkernick, Eric Giroux, Mr. DiConzo and Former Selectman Frank Anastatio. Based upon that slate, I would be inclined to support Mr. DiConzo and Mr. Anastatio. As for the budget, I say vote it down and send it back to the board. They need to know that the people are not going to accept a 4 mil increase without a fight.
FYI I work for a number of companies, and pay what the IRS tells me to pay. No, I don't currently own property in Rumford, but that is not a requirement.
The last time I checked, welfare did not assist homeowners. You cannot pay your mortgage, sewer bill, water bill, or homeowners insurance with welfare.
The "rocks and trash" reference is one of those "don't go there" topics. Like myself, Ed "went there". How do you think these self-righteous religious people are going to react? If you look at how they and other extremist groups are behaving nationwide, it is not difficult to expect the same type of behavior on Friday. Let's hope they remain peaceful and remember to Love Thy Neighbor.
High school graduation is one of the proudest moments of a young person's life. It is recognition for their efforts over their 12 years of effort. This proud moment is something that can easily be taken away by alcohol. Students who are caught drinking are the lucky ones. They may face charges and be excluded from marching down the isle, but at least they get to see that special day.Many teens believe that they are too smart to get caught drinking, They also believe that they can drive while intoxicated. Unfortunately, some find out the difference the hard way. My wish is that all of our area teens will be walking down the isle this year, my fear is that some will not.
I have visited the library. I have attended meetings there. My daughter and I both have library cards. When I had computer problems, I have used the computers. As I see it, they provide a great service to the community. However, in this economy I do not support any effort to expend millions of dollars to move it nor build a new building. I would support a long term goal of building an addition if the library could make a case for it. I fully support the use of funds to maintain the existing building and remedy any code violations.
I resent your implication that I would express such a strong opinion without having visited the building. When the building issue was brought up in the past, I took the tour through the building to see the problems that existed. I also saw both sets of plans; the expansion, and the new building. Somehow the expansion plans disappeared, and now the Growth Committee refuses to accept any option other than that which they proposed.
Truth be told, the Growth Committee is only an advisory group that should bring their recommendation to the Board of Trustees for a decision. Their circumventing of the trustees is way out of line, and only fuels the opposition they face. Rumford people don't want to be told how to spend their money by people from other towns. If those people want a new library so bad, have them propose it in their small towns. I would love to see the reaction.
When a governmental official advocates for a tax increase in a economy where unemployment soars, they are setting the stage for those who are hanging on by a thread to lose their homes. This is irresponsible government. Our government has to operate within the means of those who pay the bill.
There are some who guage decisions on their personal fiscal comfort, disregarding those who live on an income that is less than their own. I am not attacking any of the people I mentioned. I am attacking their decision to ignore a large portion of their constituency.
The push for a new library, or to move and expand our current library comes from a small group of people who can afford higher taxes. They are disregarding the citizens who are just barely able to pay their taxes. Our population has dropped, and continues to do so. The mill valuation has dropped, and will likely also continue to do so. Selectman Adley indicated to me that he does not believe that poor people exist. Selectman Sterling stated in a meeting that retired people should be able to continue to pay for services despite their change in income. It is this attitude that will eventually cause a battle between the haves and the have-nots. Wew see it everywhere, not just Rumford. Dick Gleason is ignoring the poor in the city he serves as well. Unfortunately for them, there are many more poor than there are wealthy. Those who act as kings should expect to be de-throned.
I am not offended by the human body in any state of dress or undress. In Vermont, complete nudity is acceptable in many places. I respect your right to your opinion, but do not force your value system on me.
So, it is okay from birth to (what age?), but not again until (what age?). It is sexualized because people like you reinforce the sexuality. I refer you to the comments I made previously.
I too value the programs that exist at the library. However, due to a recent drop in the valuation of the mill and power plant, taxes for our residents have risen significantly. That along with an unstable local economy due to mill layoffs, has caused many to be cautious about capital spending. The grant is a fabulous opportunity for the town, but it comes at a time when the additional two million dollars required to complete the project would be too much of a burden on those who pay taxes.
You are not alone in your thoughts that we must build our town. However, we cannot build it on quicksand. Our town government needs to put more effort into building the tax base, by attracting more jobs to the area. I have been telling them this since the early 1990s, but nobody has taken it seriously. When we can start building our tax base and population, rather than watching it decline, our town will be in a better position to expand on the programs and facilities.
It is acknowledged that not all landlords are slumlords, not all people from Massachusetts are from the slums, not all people from the slums have many children, and not all such people have children inclined toward crime.
Mr. Byard must be one of those who has plenty of money and thinks that poor people are mythological beings dreamed up by the opposition to scare people into cutting budgets.
Reality check... grandma really is sitting at home with the heat turned low, eating dog food and going without her medicine just to afford your tax increase. Go ahead and force her out of her home. She will no doubt end up in subsidized housing and food assistance. Meanwhile, her home will be bought by some slumlord and rented out to low a low income family from the slums of Massachusetts. Their children will attend local schools and eventually occupy our local jails. This will increase the city budget even more, which will cause the same thing to happen to other grandmas. Talk about a domino effect.
"Again I support your argument and I wouldn't want kids to be exposed to the female or male body in such a way, it is your responsibility to keep kids away."
Away from what? What actual harm is caused by a child seeing a naked breast?? Please site clinical studies. :)
<blockquote>I stand by my opinion that a woman who is barebreasted in public is doing it for shock value. Whether she has lofty motives or not, she IS trying to shock people.</blockquote>
Well, does your sweeping generalization apply to ALL women everywhere? What about the African tribes where toplessness in public is commonplace? What about the legally sanctioned nude beaches where women sunbathe? What about breastfeeding moms? Your comment makes them all seem to be exhibitionistic perverts. Looking to draw attention is not the same as wanting to shock people. She is trying to convey a message, so she obviously wants to draw attention, but she may not be looking to shock anyone. There are those who will be shocked, but the more mature and self righteous will just smile.
I agree that toplessness by anyone is not appropriate in the business district on a regular basis. However, this woman is attempting to convey a message, and to do that, you sometimes have to push the envelope a bit. If she were to do the same thing on a remote country road, it probably wouldn't have been noticed, and her message wouldn't reach as many people. I am suggesting that if society had a more mature approach nudity, there would be no reason for anyone to be traumatized by what they saw.
The human body comes in two basic varieties, male and female. Most people on this earth are either one or the other. Why do we feel the need to hide certain parts? Just because some people are uncomfortable with their bodies, or become aroused at the sight of another, laws are made to prevent other people from being seen in the basic human state.
People with certain religious convictions will tell you that being nude is sinful. But nowhere in the Bible does it outright state that thou shalt not be nude. Nudity is not a sin. When someone sees another nude, the only sin that may occur is lust, and that is on behalf of the person seeing not the person who is nude. God created everything in his own image, and nothing God created can be bad.
Laws prohibiting nudity are actually legislated morality. Where do we draw the line between religion and the law? In certain beliefs it is sinful for women to show their faces. The only body parts that are allowed to remain uncovered is their hands. Is this where we are heading?
Studies have shown that children who grow up with a healthy understanding of the human body, are more likely to have a positive body image, and less likely to participate in promiscuity in their teen years. Teen pregnancy at nudist resorts is almost non-existent. Perhaps we should learn from our textile resistant brothers and sisters. When you hide something from a child, it only makes it more attractive for them to try and see it. If we can take the stigma out of "being human", the lust will eventually become a non-issue.
What harm comes to a child who sees a human breast? Many get a close up and personal exposure on a regular basis until they are old enough for solid food. Older children are only titillated by the sight because of the way we adults react. We actually train our children to think that exposure of a breast is shameful. If left to their own conclusion, humans would think nothing more of a breast than they do an elbow. When was the last time you were arouse by an elbow??
Children do not become sexually aware prior to puberty unless trained by caregivers. This training takes on many forms, but is quite effective. It all starts when they are infants. Infants are natural nudists, but the necessity of diapers cause a need for them to cover up. But as they grow, they are constantly instructed as to where they are allowed to be nude, and where they must be dressed. On a hot summer day, they are not allowed to enjoy a pool without adorning a bathing suit that quickly becomes a soggy heavy nuisance.When they bathe, they are usually told that they must get dressed before leaving the bathroom. They may ask why, and be told that it is not proper for them to be in their own home undressed, even though there is nobody else in the house. This creates a body shame; if seeing a body is bad, then maybe the body is bad. It also creates a curiosity as to what other bodies look like. But when they walk into mom's room while she is dressing, they may be greeted by a shrill scream and scolded for doing so.
These are examples of subliminal training. The more obvious training methods come from the examples set by adults. When Uncle Phinneus starts talking about "hooters", he is passing his juvenille attitude to all of the children within earshot. When he makes lustful comments such as "I'd like to get inside her pants" he is training another generation of insensitive lust-driven perverts of every child who is within ear shot. If not corrected, such behavior is seen as acceptable.
We need to develop a respect for others, including a respect for the human body. Laws restricting people from being human are not the solution, but only contribute to the problem.
Frank doesn't always do things the way others do, but that does not make him a bad person. Frank's comments in the meeting addressed the situation. Whatever else he may have said in his emails is not relavant to this discussion. He does express himself too strongly at times, but I have said similar things to both Carlo and the board members, just in a different way.
It is irresponsible for a board to recommend an increased budget after a 4 mil tax increase, especially after failing to attain a 10% decrease in the current budget. I am not sure what Saab owners are saying, but everyone I speak to, except for Brad, Jeff and Greg, are apalled at the action.
Now there is word that a member of the board reportedly trying to coerce the finance committee into not recommending a lower budget. The selectmen as a board have no authority over the finance committee regarding the budget, and a single member of the board has no authority unless the majority of the board grants it to him. Yes, the board sets the level of service, but they must do so within the fiscal ability of the town (which is based upon the collective ability of all taxpaying citizens). Such actions are unethical, if not illegal.
Frank may not express himself as tactfully as others, but he does represent a large segment of the population with his comments. When taxes jump 4 mils and the town leaders fail to cut the budget, they have to expect some discontent.
There is software available that allows a central computer to limit internet access based upon time. A person signs up and is given a login, after 30 minutes, they are automatically disconnected from the internet.
I don't recommend a blanket policy of charging for the internet, but I do suggest that porn sites be filtered from childrens access. I don't believe that internet access is constitutionally protected. Library computers should be free for research, but not for social networking and games.
The library is expecting us to believe that they have over 50,000 visitors a year?? Marie Boudreau did an excellent job presenting the common sense viewpoint. Who in their right mind would move that historic library? What governmental agency would fund it? I wonder if Mr. Sterling has ever been a legislator, because he spends like one.
How long do we have to wait?? By the time Augusta is done playing its games, there will be casinos in New Hampshire and Canada that take away any potential benefit to the state from other areas. They act as if they are in a vacuum, and the outside world has no affect on Maine.
It is incidents like these that cause towns to enact ordinances restricting such dogs. I believe that a dog owner should be held responsible for their dog and all damages caused by the dog. Any dog that attacks this aggressively should be put down, no questions.
I presume that the writer meant to say that Oxford County Sheriffs responded. If Franklin County units can get there that fast, they are way out of their coverage area.
I am confused by the use of an emergency clause to enact these laws/regulations. How are they an emergency?? If the legislature is going to have such a liberal definition of emergency then our local governments appear justified to have the same leeway in using emergency clauses in their town governments. It is an abuse of power.
That being said, I see nothing wrong with the regulations and laws in this article, just the process used.
Okay guys, you know that you have violated the trust the people put in you. It was obvious that you weren't going to meet your goal of finding 10% savings this year, but there is no reason why the budget came in higher for next year. This is inexcusable, and will likely be reflected in the selectmen's race despite the words you say to make it look like you didn't support it. Now, we must see what the finance committee does. If they come back with an increased budget, we may end up having to vote it down and send it back to be done over.
The PEOPLE voted in an ordinance authorizing the selectmen to administer the fee. Their decision outweighs the decision of one person. If you have no knowledge on a topic, it is foolhardy to argue. Your ignorance is showing.
Just because it meets your definition, does not make it so. When you read your cable bill, presuming that you are a cable subscriber, it is listed as a franchise fee. The federal goverment designates it as a fee. So, your definitio is trumped by authorities much more powerful than you and I.
"The balance should then go into the general fund for spending as need-be for the good of the taxpayers that paid the fees in the first place."
The taxpayers did not pay in anything to this fund. The cable subscribers paid in money, which should be used to their benefit, not the benefit of those without cable tv. I have proposed an ordinance to eliminate the slush fund.
According to Federal Regulations, franchise fees are, just that, fees. Their intent was to offset the cost to the municipality in administering the agreement with the cable tv companies, and for public access tv stations. The money is paid by the subscribers, and not by those who do not subscribe. Municipalities have misused these funds due to a lack of understanding as to their intent. In Rumford, I have been informing the town of the true intent of those fees ever since the beginning of the access channel. I have addressed the issue of their use over the past few decades. The trouble is, it has become a convenient slush fund from which to feed pet projects. The ordinance that was written provides the board with governance over the use of the fees. However, such use should not exceed the acceptable uses established by the federal government. I am submitting an ordinance change that would assure the funds are used for cable tv related expenses. I hope that it will be accepted by the board. If not, I will be seeking the signatures to petition it onto the ballot. I am also proposing other ordinance changes to regulate the constant outflow of money to private interests.
You hit the nail on the head. It is good to see that there are still a few conservatives out there who don't resort to childishness to argue their point. When you follow the Glenn Beck school of politics, you are going to fail.
How can you not see a downside?? There is a loan involved here, and loans need to be paid back. Our current fiscal situation does not permit for new projects of any significant cost. At a previous board meeting there was discussion of cutting capital improvement budgets, and here you want to build a whole new building?? Somebody needs a reality check. What happened to cutting budgets??
I thought the department heads were supposed to be finding ways to cut the budget, why are there increases?????? Now, when the board makes cuts, these departments will cry foul, but they had a chance to find the cuts themselves. The budget, as proposed, will assure that taxes remain high due to the drop in valuation for the mill and hydro-power plant.
It's too bad, granny really liked living in the home where she was born, but now she will end up in low income housing with her rent subsidized by the state. Her home will be bought by some out of town slum monger who will rent it to tenants whose rent and heat is subsidized by the state. Then the board will complain that state taxes are too high.
What, no jaywalking?? These incidents barely even qualify as crimes. Why do they call it a CRIME Bulletin when most of it is minor infractions? Are we afraid that the person who misused identification will strike again?? OMG!!
I didn't realize that the school was down to 40 students. I believe that the downturn partly affected by the financial status of our nation and our community. But it also has a lot to do with the perception the community has about the school.
It is difficult for a family to afford private education, either religious or secular. It is costly for such institutions to function. When only wealthier families can afford to send their children, a perceived class division occurs. Some of those who can afford to send their children, see private education as a status symbol. Perhaps without knowing it, they project an air of superiority over the have-nots. This eventually becomes the culture of the institution, which is the very thing that drives people away from it.
We considered sending my daughter to the school a while back. We discussed the prospect with the school leadership who informed me that they didn't "have the resources" to meet my child's needs. Well, with 40 students in 9 grade levels, my math shows an average class size of 4.5 students. What kind of demon would my child have to be to be a problem in that size class?? Perhaps my child wasn't good enough, or I wasn't the right type of parent to associate with their school. I am unsure what their true rationale was, but I felt that it was not really a problem with "resources".
A previous principal at the school indicated that the school is based upon love, but only as it was defined by them. It did not include those who were different (economically or otherwise), and it did not include tolerance for those who had difficulty. In recent years, I have not seen the same attitude spoken outright, as it was back then, but the culture may not have changed.
I am a firm believer in a school voucher system. If a parent is paying taxes to include education of their child, the dollars associated with their child's education should go to the school the child attends. If we had a voucher system, there would be no social class division at the school, and the school would have many more students. The competition between public schools and charter schools would drive the quality of education, eliminating the need to "teach" the students how to pass the assessment, and instead giving them an actual education.
I have not slandered you, but it seems that my character is being drawn through the mud. I received my information regarding the bins from Mr. Puiia. The complaint is addressed in this article: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1914&dat=19930415&id=fQ4gAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EGYFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1803,4016581. As you know, the terms of selectmen do not run on a calendar year. This is why I was unsure if the action had occurred in 1992 or 1993. I don't obsess over such things, so they are not in the forefront of my mind.
I have no reason to believe that you are not using two different accounts to post here. I googled Ms. O'Hara and found no reference whatsoever (except for on the SJ). Every time you get up to speak, you say the same thing in the same way so, based upon the post, it is difficult to believe that you are not ArmyMom. If you have been following my posts so closely, you would know that I have no intention of running for selectman this June. You would also know the reasons I have given for my decision. You and I both know what happened in the 1990s. If you have any questions about abything that happened when I was on the board, I would be more than happy to discuss what I can with you.
Your sources are wrong. First of all, I was not a teenager, I was in my 20's. The Town Manager at the time was John Madigan, whom I supported (which is what caused the rift between me and the majority of the board) until the day he left. After John, Robbie Welch was interim Town Manager. We didn't agree on everything, but we didn't fight either.
The turmoil at the time was symptomatic of the composure of the board, the fact that a majority was working to get rid of Mr. Madigan, and various discriminatory attitudes among board members. It was a difficult time and rules were not being followed. I was attempting to get the rules enforced through the bylaws.Unfortunately, they had been written in such a way as to be unenforcable. The issues during my term helped people realize that they needed to be changed.
If you have questiona about the bins, perhaps you should check with Mr. Puiia , as I have.
As for the slander accusation, I see no basis. I can prove all of what I have said about Traci's background regardless of what she "remembers". I will accept that you believe yourself to be someone other than Candice, but we all know how easy it is to have two profiles. It is a common belief that your profile is used regularly by her to promote her agenda.
There goes Candice with her self promoting speech. She writes it in the third person to give the appearance that anyone else would be so empassioned to support her. As we hwve discussed in the past, the Recycling Bin issue was merely a case of Candice not following the established procedure. She has a history of doing this. Back when I was on the board (1992?) she filed complaints against three members of the board in an attempt to get the remaining two (myself and Eddie Shurtleff) to remove them. We all know that two members of a board cannot take an official action, let alone removing the majority. But she tried, and the effort failed.
I am very pleased that our town has a board that gets along, and a Town Manager who takes the time to listen to all citizens. It has taken many years, but we now have a functional board. I have been asking them to set goals and take action, but they apper to be too timid to do so. It is my hope that the members of the next board (after June election) will use a strategic planning process to set goals, objectives and timelines so that they can lead us into a more prosperous future.
It seems that my words motivated him somehow to decide to run. After speaking with him, and seeing how the board handled the Personnel Policy hearing, I am beginning to have hope that things might just start moving. :)
Okay, I admit that the confield reference was a bit over the edge. I get so frustrated seeing our town decline while the board does little to stop it. Our board members are all intelligent people who have the capacity to do great things for the community. I am just hoping that they choose to be more active in the near future.
I would like to thank John for being a good friend and providing me constructive feedback on this. :)
This June there will be three openings up for grabs. The seats currently held by Mr. Adley, Mr. DiConzo, and Mr.Sterling are all coming due. With three openings, it is possible for some former members of the board to return. We could revert to the turmoil of the past. I am not willing to risk being a minority member of such a board.
I enjoy the (unofficial) position I currently hold. I work to make people aware of what is happening on the board, I monitor the meetings and decisions of the board, and I provide suggestions (guidance) for their consideration. If I were on the board I would be much more restricted as to what I could do. I have been there and I am very reluctant to put myself in that position again. There are a number of upstanding citizens in this town who can fill the positions. After the fireworks issue, I am not likely to support Mr. Adley for re-election. I am willing to give Mr. Sterling a chance to redeem himself due to his lack of time on the board. If Mr. DiConzo is able and willing to run again, I am likely to support him as he has been more active in seeking to make progress in some areas.
I wish I lived in a town that actually planned something, but I live in Rumford. Our town can't plan it's way out of a corn field after harvest.
In all fairness, Jim Rinaldo has planned a concert series in the Rumford Falls Auditorium, but aside from that it is status quo. If you look at Rumford's history, we used to be a flurry of activity, with events planned throughout the year. But, unfortunately, all of the motivated people either died or moved away.
If it weren't for Jim Rinaldo and Phil Blampied, our town would be stagnant. If you don't believe me, look at the agenda for this weeks meeting of the Board of Selectmen. There is almost nothing on it, and not even discussion about doing anything substantial.
With all of this crime in town, why don't we have more police?? I can't imagine that it takes 12 police officers to handle this much crime. Maybe Officer Obie from Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant story is in charge. The next time somebody litters, I expect to see the full crime team on the job (dogs, helicopters, etc).
I would have thought this was standard practice in all schools decades ago. It is a shame that a student had to raise the issue instead of those who we trust (and pay) to do the job. Good job Carl. I would hope that other young people in our community would follow suit. If our generation is too lazy to do what is right, perhaps we need to be told what to do by the younger generation.
I am sorry to hear of the boy's death, but I would think that such symptoms would cause such alarm in a parent as to cause them to call an ambulance. No medical practitioner can diagnose 100% accurately over the phone. At the very least, get a second opinion. The provider should have stated that if symptoms get worse, or the parent is sufficiently concerned, a hospital visit would be recommended. If they did, they should be cleared of any wrong-doing. We cannot expect our providers to perform beyond their capacity. Technology has not progressed to the point that such diagnosis can be performed over the phone.
Based upon the information presented in this article, the Solid Waste Board has no authority to remove a member. Any removal has to be done by the town who appointed the member. Until such removal takes place, the member has the right to participate as a member, including participating in executive sessions. Had the member been removed by the police, the remaining board members may have been subject to legal action.
Now that is an interesting idea. When a person with children is convicted with a drug related crime, take away their kids. It will reduce the children's exposure to drugs and give the parents motivation to not do the crime.
Jeers to Bradford Adley, Chairman of the Rumford Board of Selectmen for having the gaul to suggest that the Black Mountain and Greater Rumford Community Center programs be merged under the Rumford Parks Department at Thursday nights meeting even after receiving a Blue Ox Award (Oxie) for the lame-brained idea.
Both the GRCC and BMOM are valuable programs, but in a tight economy with a recent jump in taxes for most homeowners, it is not a time to be expanding on the services that come under municipal budgets, much less subsidizing private non-profit corporations under the guise of a town department. Let the voters decide if they want to continue to support these two entities through the initiated article process.
There are more names on the petition than the number that voted in the first place. If those people had paid attention the first time, there would be no issue. However, the democratic process allows for a revote on the issue.
Super-Jeers to Bradford Adley, Chairman of the Rumford Board of Selectmen, for suggesting that the board find "althernate ways of funding" Black Mountain and the Greater Rumford Community Center by hiding their initiated article request in the town's Parks and Recreation budget. This move would make it more difficult for citizens to vote down the allocations, and put Parks and Recreation programs at risk.
Jeers to the Rumford Board of Selectmen who, after asking employees to take furlough days to save money, donated $1,000 from Economic Development funds to Black Mountain ski area for fireworks. It is anticipated that 500 people (mostly local) will be attending the event.
Shhhh, don't tell anyone that the same board that has asked the employees to sacrifice by taking unpaid days off, just gave Black Mountain $1,000 for fireworks.
Recent Comments
Expectations
Some people expect municipalities and schools to operate at the same budget level every year. Unfortunately, costs increase as do salaries. Some complain that employees are paid too much, but the same people would scream foul if their employer cut their pay. Yes, we can cut budgets, but the work still needs to get done. Too often we hear of people complaining about the quality of education while also complaining about the budget.
The solution is for communities to build the tax base by attracting business. If we look at the businesses we have lost over the years, and the jobs that have gone with them, we see that our towns are less capable of paying these increasing costs. We need to get busy bringing money back into the area, encouraging business, and adding job opportunities in the private sector so that we can afford to provide our children with quality education services.
Oxford Hills????
Somebody goofed. The majority of the towns in RSU10 are in the River Valley region.
Soem good ideas...
Designing schools to offer different programs makes sense, Having one school with a cookie cutter education for all students does not. Perhaps if we build on the strengths of each school, we can actually attract students from adjacent districts with specialized programs. Instead of rolling over and dying as a district, why not upgrade the program?? Team up with the college to expand advanced placement programs, develop sports and recreation based curriculum, expand upon the offerings for children requiring life skills training, restore a business tract with internships and business development support. What if students could graduate from high school with their first year of college already completed, or with a complete business plan??? What if students were placed in internships each summer and jobs upon graduation? If we change the way we approach education, our graduates will be in demand in the workplace.
Aspire Higher!!!!
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I am glad to see that the program they use today is more powerful than those used when I was in school.
Mountain Bike
Somehow the reporter mis-stated the intent of the proposal. This would be a Mountain Bike facility and trails, not a dirt bike facility.
Get Involved
We need the people to become more involved in all aspects of our community. There are two groups working on projects to move the town forward, River Valley Ideaville (https://www.facebook.com/groups/ideaville/) enjoyed strong support online, but when it came to people coming together to work toward these efforts only a handful could spare the time. Envision Rumford is working on zip lines, and promotional items, but even there the actual attendance at the meetings is less than impressive. If we want to see these things happen, we need to have people involved in the planning. The Rumford Comprehensive Plan Committee has asked for people to submit their ideas and visions, but only had a handful of responses. The first step is to express your ideas, and then collaborate with others to support the development. There is no fairy godmother waving a wand to make your dreams come true, we all have to work for it.
From the youngest child to the most senior citizen, community involvement is essential.
Gitmo???
What was a person who is not being charged doing in a cell???? Sherman and those involved with the case should be fired and held personally accountable by the courts. The agents who put him in there should be removed from law enforcement permanently.
Of course, because this is law enforcement, and they only are required to answer to their own, the agents involved will get a slap on the wrist and be back to work the next hour. Anytime an agency is investigated internally, cover-ups are almost always the result. Don't be surprised if Mr. Chong is blamed in some way. :(
Finally!!!!
Previous boards have tried to work together without success. This time the only questions raised regarded what would be done, not whether or not we should work together.
Hey Frank...
I don't disagree that people have a tough time making ends meet, but I wonder how many people came to the Selectmen when you were on the board for a poverty tax abatement?????????? If any, how did you vote?
The best way...
The best way to reduce the need for general assistance is to build your local economy. By working in cooperation with the private sector to create jobs and re-purpose dilapidated properties, we reduce the need for general assistance, build the local tax base, and reduce the reliance upon other municipal services. Cutting services in an attempt to reduce need is like closing hospitals to reduce the number of people who get sick. It just doesn't work that way. We have been "holding the line" for 20+ years without much effort to expand the tax base. Sure we have had a token person working to bring in the magical industrial business that can provide 500 high paying jobs, but we cannot rely upon fairy tale solutions. We need to work to develop what we have in the region to attract people to our community. Jim Rinaldo has done very well in getting this effort underway.
From the top of our mountains to the bottom of the Androscoggin, we have a variety of recreational opportunities. I was informed that a Les Otten once told the community leaders that our area should rely upon the pulp wood industry. Well, how has that worked out for us??? Of course he didn't want us to pursue recreation, because he knew that we had much to offer, and he didn't want our community taking away from his plans up at Sunday River (which he owned at the time). It is time to stop listening to the nay-sayers and work toward a bright future in our town, community and region.
Clark Kent!!
Nice job Russ. :) Too bad you weren't wearing your super-suit. :)
But seriously, you are fortunate that he didn't respond violently. This could have turned out VERY badly for you. :(
We are fortunate
The River Valley is fortunate to have dedicated teams of firefighters who work as a unified team to prevent houses from being destroyed. The cooperative relationship between the departments is commendable. Kudos to the teams and their leaders for establishing and maintaining this relationship.
Building a Relationship
Working together takes time. This is a good start towards collaboration.
Lessons not learned???
People don't sell perfectly good ladder trucks. If you are going to work together, buy new and have it last longer. I predict that any used firetruck the towns purchase will end up needing constant repairs within 3-5 years (just like Rumford's did). :(
Ed...
You are correct that our area is challenged by its location when attempting to attract industry. However, we are blessed by our location when it comes to natural beauty and outdoor recreation. I would love to see the hotel's feasibility study so that I would know what they have identified as attractions and benefits in this area. Right now there are efforts to better identify and expand upon recreation making use of our mountains and rivers. With the number of tourists who pass through our community throughout the year, we certainly have the opportunity to spur our economy if we try.
We are positioned to benefit from the Oxford casino, as their nearby recreation mecca. Tom Carey is working on bringing multiple zip-lines into the area, taking advantage of our unique natural features. The town is working to assess the feasibility of mountain bike trails. We have identified more resources for canoe and kayak rentals, and the Androscoggin River between Dixfield and Canton has awesome Bass fishing, which is going to be promoted. Black Mountain is looking to identify ways they can expand their summer offerings. Even the historical society is working to upgrade their offerings by considering a downtown display on the history of our community. That coupled with efforts to make our unique architectural structures more appealing, enhances people's perception.
Yes, the area is finally coming to life. The people and the government have realized that we cannot rely upon industry as a sole source of financial support for our economy. I would suggest that before posting about what CAN'T be done, perhaps it is wise to see what IS being done.
Need to Build the Tax Base
We need to bring more money into the area. The new hotel is a start, the movie theater is progress, but we need more to make our town prosperous. Jim Rinaldo is currently paid for 10 hours per week to work on economic development, and he has done a great job. However, that effort is insufficient for the position we are in. If we want to keep taxes low, we need to stop bailing out the sinking boat with a thimble.
info
It seems that when the General Assistance budget was cut for this fiscal year, Ms. Giberson took a $5.56 per hour pay reduction. How many of you would tolerate such a thing? The pay rate they approved is within the range of pay rates for people doing the same job in other similar sized communities, with as much experience. I haven't looked into the workload, so I cannot address the number of hours she needs to serve both Rumford and Mexico. I do know that a 1/3 reduction in pay rate is not acceptable. We need to be fair in dealing with town employees.
Did anyone else notice????
There were at least 4 uniformed police officers in the room during the meeting. I wonder what they were expecting to happen.
Hmmm...
Sounds like a true politician... ask your questions with no information, then be given information with no opportunity to ask questions. :(
Lives
If the town wants to cut corners and be foolish when purchasing a street sweeper (another argument for another day) that is fine, but when it comes to public safety, I want our town to have the needed equipment to get the job done. I have lots of respect for all firefighters, but even the best of 'em cannot quickly get a ladder here from Dixfield or Andover if the Mexico truck is unavailable. With the tax rate in town, if you have a person trapped in a second or third story building, you had better be capable of saving their life. Yes, we need to work on regional collaboration, but we aren't there yet. Until our towns get their acts together, it is going to cost us more to protect lives.
OMG!!!
You purchase a used piece of apparatus (under the advice of a new fire chief who came here from out of state and is no longer employed by the town)from the city department where the fire chief previously worked and you are surprised when it doesn't live up to expectations. Amazing!!
This is what happens when municipal boards try to pinch pennies. You have to shop smart. I hope that you are pleased with the purchase decision that was made, because you are stuck with it. :(
:)
It is nice to see the board support the expansion of recreational opportunities in the community.
Education is not important to some people
This is all about keeping us as a class B school in athletics.
The people are still in charge.
The last time I checked the school district received its power/authority from the member towns. Those town governments get their power from the people. If you want a budget for next year, you WILL listen to the people. It only takes a special town meeting in the right towns to hang the entire district out to dry. REMEMBER, ultimately you represent US.
Interesting....
A couple of thoughts.... 1. If you are not closing buildings, but you are adding the cost of busing students from East Dixfield and Canton to Rumford on a daily basis, where is the savings, a couple of teaching positions? 2. The Mountain Valley system has a much different culture than the Dirigo system. I am concerned that the Dirigo students being thrust into an urban culture will increase problems in our communities. 3. Why can't the system use the same distance learning technology between Mountain Valley & Dirigo that it is with Buckfield?? 4. Why aren't our towns putting any significant effort into building the local tax base so that we don't have to sacrifice the education of our children?? 5. How much of this is just about maintaining Class B status for the sports teams?????
Hmmmm...
If West Shore Road is private, shouldn't the landowners be maintaining it as a private way??? If it is a public road, everyone should have the right to go down there.
Grant
Too bad the town of Rumford didn't think to negotiate a grant from the cable company when they approved their new franchise agreement a week ago. Oh well, they will get another chance in 10 years. The cable company has only been operating in Rumford for about 50 years, and the only equipment the town has requested in that entire time is a new high tech sound system for the municipal auditorium. If they are lucky, that will improve the sound quality for their meetings, but if the access channel doesn't have working cameras, you won't be able to hear the new system on Channel 7. :(
Darned State Government
It seems that the state government won't be happy until all areas of Maine are returned to just lakes and trees. It seems that humans are not welcome in this state. Well Augusta, lakes and trees don't pay taxes, so if you push us out, you won't be getting any paycheck.
GPS
Deputies shouldn't be relying upon physical descriptions of structures. The precise GPS coordinates should be required. It seems that the private sector needs to step up and get involved. Security agencies should hire retired and part time law enforcement officers to be on call for the more rural areas. I know it will cost more money, but if you want that level of service, you either pay the cost, or move somewhere that has a police department. The Sheriff's budget comes from town assessments, which comes from every tax payer in the county.
This pertains to all levels of government
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
TIFs
Tifs were created to encourage businesses to come to town. It does not affect the current valuation taxes. Without it, our town could remain stagnant for decades (but we have already done that). :(
Congratulations Allyson
Allyson has been an integral part of that operation over the years. Having worked with all of the various government and community entities, she is the perfect selection for the post.
Boycott Canton
I can see reasonable constraints on public participation in board meetings if there is a problem, but having to file a form 5 days ahead of time is just WRONG. It seems that the board has forgotten who the boss is in the town. I think I will tell my boss that he needs to file a such a request before speaking with me. I bet that will go over REAL well.
I believe it is time to Boycott Canton and all businesses in it until this policy is revoked.
I wonder...
It would be interesting to see how he has voted on the police budget in the past. As an obviously well-respected Republican, one can presume that he wanted the budget cut. Unfortunately, people like him cause the work load of the police department to require more officers who end up incurring overtime. If he could behave himself, he would be working to reduce the need for police staffing at the current levels.
:)
HA!
How much do you want to bet the Republicans already had a nameplate printed for Dow in anticipation of his win. I think I should invest in pharmaceuticals over the next few months. When the November election occurs, the entire Republican party is going to need anti-depressants. But they an only blame themselves. They were greedy and tried to push too far, and now the people are realizing what is going on. It remains to be seen what the Republican party looks like in January 2013.
Penalty
Shouldn't they also be responsible to assure that erosion and other adverse impacts are abated? Since they caused the situation, any problems that arise from their actions should be at their expense.
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Mr Rogers will be replaced by a rabid wolverine, It is expected that the wolverine will be better capable of relating to the governor, and taming the perception people have of the administration throughout the state. Attempts to fill the position with a Tasmanian Devil proved unsuccessful.
HA!
Well, I guess the shed isn't there anymore. But that still leaves the option of measuring the right of way from the center.
Let's go to the map.....
Upon Reviewing the tax map, one sees that a shed on lot 113-143 has its back wall on the property line. Based upon this image and personal observations of the shed, I believe it is safe to say that the wall is within the town right-of-way. If there is/was a lease of the wall documented at some point in history, chances are that both the lease payments haven't been made in quite some time, based upon the fact that nobody knew about it.
Just get the job done.
Right-of-way
Based on the fact that the right-of-way on my street extends to include part of my front porch which is a much greater distance, I believe we can safely say that the Strathglass wall on Hancock St is within the right-of-way. If you are unsure, get permission from the town, and then get permission from the adjacent landowners, and get the job done.
It may not be intentional, but actions such as this make it look like the board is using passive-aggressive tactics to keep our town looking shabby. :(
I don't live in the park, but since only a couple of residents have actual fences, I would think that a green barrier (shrubs) that grow to a limited height would be a much more attractive option.
BAD ADVICE!!!
911 is an emergency line and is not the appropriate number to call for slippery sidewalks. The only time you call 911 is in an emergency. Tying up a dispatcher to report icy sidewalks can cause loss of life. The appropriate number to call is 743-9554 (Oxford County Regional Communication Center). When a call is received on this line, it is handled at a secondary level.
It is reckless and irresponsible for our government and local newspaper to publish this erroneous information without checking with authorities. This is just one example of why it is out of order to begin discussions under Selectperson's Report. If you are going to discuss emergency procedures, you need to have consulted with someone who knows the protocols. I hope that our board works to assure that this type of mistake does not happen again.
Hummm....
I didn't know that legislative committees allowed public participation by non-members. Perhaps I should show up and put in my two cents. It seems that if they allowed him to speak just because he is the governor, it may be a case of violation of the separation of powers. It would be interesting to see his behavior investigated as to its legality/ethics.
Hey!!!! Wait a Minute!!!
If the Fire Chief knew there was a problem, and sought a quote, why didn't he request to have it placed on the agenda???? When you are upfront about things, there is less of a chance that the public will think something is being done improperly, especially when it comes to spending money.
Where did the money end up coming from?????
Hmmm...
The question is, did the person disagree with because they thought I was actually impressed, or did they sense the sarcasm??? Perhaps they just disagree with everything I say just because I am me. :)
Keyboard
Don't blame the keyboard, Frank :)
WOW
WOW
John
John has served our community very well over the years, both in Rumford and Mexico. We are lucky to have a man like him.
Nice Article About a Great Guy
Unfortunately, Mr. LaFlamme still managed to turn this interview into a slam on Rumford, by inferring that we have murders on a regular basis. What do you have against Rumford??? Aside from domestic abuse, we don't have much violent crime. However, through your constant references, your readers are lead to believe that we are the crime haven of Maine. SHAME ON YOU for misrepresenting our area!!!!
Why Rumford
Just because Erin works in the Rumford office, it doesn't mean that her article about fugitive murderers has to be attributed to Rumford. :(
Jails
Jails should be reserved for people who are likely to harm someone else again. We can be sure that the young lady did not intend to kill anyone. The punishment I suggested would significantly reduce further incidents without costing the taxpayers for jailing the young lady. Also, by letting the young lady continue with her education and career, she will be much more likely to be self supporting, reducing the chances of her ending up on state assistance.
The town is NOT paying anything
It is all smoke & mirrors. The Cabbies pay all of the costs, the town is just trying to maintain their $17 profit. It seems that, just like the federal level, government thinks they have to take as much money from the little guy to prevent the corporations a few cents on their taxes. Next there will be a fee to pay your taxes, ask a question, or have the town plow your street.
If our town had started to work on building the tax base back when the economy was good, we wouldn't be worried about making money off the poor today.
Oh, but you can't....
The liberal authorities will likely say "you can't punish the driver, she has been punished enough, having to live with knowing she was responsible for the death of her friends".
Here is my opinion:
Hosts - Punished with a significant fine for hosting the party, and ordered to not have contact with people under 21 in their homes for 10 years, and no contact with alcohol for the remainder of their lives.
Driver - Suspension of license for 5 years, responsible for paying funeral costs of those killed, no contact with alcohol for the remainder of her life, and not allowed to text message ever again.
This is a little bit more lenient than I would like, but I have to remain reasonable.
Hmmmm...
I heard rhetoric like this earlier today when I was listening to the NH debate... Are your running for the Republican nomination Frank???
It is funny that you try to blame anything that occurred while I was on the board upon me. I was always in the minority. I don't jump sides, I am not on any one side. On some issues I support a more conservative approach, and on others, I support a more liberal approach. It is called thinking for yourself, and not being a mindless political zombie. I tend to base my opinions on the facts that are stated. If additional information is uncovered, I may change my position, but it is based entirely upon facts. I am sorry to say that you don't seem to be as open minded in your decision making.
The Frank DiConzo endorsed slush fund
Let's presume that Chief Carter performs the background checks. His salary is part of the budget, paid for by taxes. If the fee for Hack licenses includes reimbursement for administrative costs including labor, where does that money go??? It doesn't go to Chief Carter, because his salary is already included in the annual budget. Where does it go??? Slush fund!!!!
By supporting a $47 fee for hack licenses, you are supporting a police department slush fund created by an extra $17 per license PROFIT for the department.
Frank
Your lack of attention to detail and knee jerk response to issues is one of the leading reasons you are no longer on that board.
Frank, you are not paying attention....
Applicants pay $25, the state fee is $22.... That leaves $3 for the id badge and application form. If those costs are more, then add a couple of dollars to the fee, but there is no reason that the applicant should be paying $47.
Nothing to absorb
They receive $25 per application. It costs them $22 for the background check, and a few dollars for the ID badge. I speculated that it cost about $8 to be generous, but I believe the actual cost is less. If they want to increase the fee, I need to see a breakdown of the cost. THE TOWN SHOULD NOT BE MAKING A PROFIT OFF OF THE CITIZENS. $531 per year is one heck of a profit, off of the backs of one of the lowest paid professions in our community.
Putting it all together....
When the hack licenses were first established, the town charged a $25 fee. The cost to the town included the piece of paper for the application, and the ID badge, which costs no more than $8.00 Essentially, the town was earning about $17.00 for performing the service.
The State of Maine now requires the town to use a paid service to run the background checks, and charges $22.00. Chief Carter was requesting that the town increase the fee charged to the cab drivers by $22.00 to cover that cost, ignoring the $17 profit they already were earning. My suggestion was that the town charge $30.00 ($22.00 for the state fee, and $8.00 for the ID badge). The police officer who takes a few minutes to process this, is already on the clock, and handles it in the course of their daily duties.
How is it fair for the town to profit off of private businesses????
HA!
It appears that no matter what I say, or how I say it, I am going to be attacked. Not a problem, I am accustomed to it. I am just glad that this site prohibits anonymous attacks like they used to.
HUH???
I never mentioned any police officers, detectives, nor other employee. I was speaking of the practice, not the people.
Try reading what I wrote....
I wasn't complaining about the police doing their jobs, I was complaining about the Sun Journal making it look as if there is more crime in our community than actually exists by repeating the police log as the Rumford Crime Report, and concentrating on our community. You don't see them doing this with other towns, do you????
Please read and understand what is written before attacking. Thanks :)
Hey Terry...
How about following law enforcement from other agencies around as they do their jobs instead of making Rumford look like a haven for crime????? I am sure that other agencies arrest people too. I presume that these arrests will show up again in the Rumford Crime Bulletin making it look like there is twice as much crime in the area. Don't play into political games. It is all a well thought out ploy to assure that people don't feel safe in the community so that they won't cut the police budget. Unfortunately, in their efforts to protect their jobs, the RPD is preventing economic growth in the community. If there is no growth, our economy remains stagnant, which promotes criminal behavior, and requires more police protection. I guess some people just won't be happy until we have a police force of 50 officers wearing tactical gear patrolling in armored vehicles and our homes need bars on the windows. :(
Perhaps we need a ban on bans
In this "land of the free" we have so many restrictions, that one needs to check the rules before breathing to assure that they are in compliance. Our town has enacted more ordinances on more issues over the past 20+ years than I can remember. Our ordinance book has grown from a few pages to a half inch thick book. Most of that is the government telling people how and where to build their houses and use their land. Some ordinances were enacted to block certain types of businesses. When do we so-called "free" citizens get to make our own decisions, and stop having the government make them for us??
I am not a big fan of fear-mongering, give me facts. If private use of fireworks has caused so many injuries, then show me the numbers. Without facts to substantiate your claims, they are just an opinion. It is unfortunate that people in positions of authority feel the need to use manipulative tactics in the press rather than being up-front with the public.
HUH???
Why are you reporting this twice? It is reported here, and then again in the RUMFORD CRIME BULLETIN. Again, why don't you post this level of information about crime in Lewiston & Auburn????
HUH???
Why are you reporting this twice? It is reported here, and then again in the RUMFORD CRIME BULLETIN. Again, why don't you post this level of information about crime in Lewiston & Auburn????
:)
Not another long-winded discussion...... Well, at least this decision was made without polling the people, and holding two years of meetings :)
As I stated...
Ordinances can be amended.
Closing land not the solution
I understand that there were some people who were eager to make money off the wind-power project, and this ordinance has prevented this from happening. However, we are all adults here, and a school-yard response is not in the town's best interest. We have had trouble attracting jobs to the area; industrial jobs have not been brought in, which means retail jobs are not being developed. The one asset we have that could attract some added revenue to our community is tourism. Unfortunately, over the years, poor community planning has left us without public recreation trails, such as those in some communities developed on former railroad beds. We need to rely upon the generosity of landowners to permit access. Tourism may not provide the same revenue as manufacturing jobs, but it can help our sinking economy. There are people out there who are trying to make a living on the tourism trade. Shutting down land access to visitors is taking away income to them. If we shut off all sources of revenue, our town will become the slum that many perceive it to be already.
In the middle of a lake, it is unwise to tell people on a sinking boat that they cannot use your bucket to bail out the water.
Just...
Deed it to the mill. The state does not need to be building a driveway for the mill. Let them handle whatever changes they need done.
18 Unit Complex
It would seem that the comment to which I replied has been deleted. I wasn't just making the statement out of thin air. As I don't recall the now absent statement, I cannot address my thinking in creating the reply.
I will say that any landlord needs to provide off-street parking for their tenants in the winter months if their units are to be attractive to potential renters. Relying upon street-side parking is irresponsible. If off-street parking is not available, either the unit remains empty, or the landlord needs to find a way to provide it. There are buildings in the area that could be purchased to be re-developed into additional parking. If the owner cannot afford to provide the parking, perhaps they have made a poor business decision in acquiring an 18 unit building in the first place.
interesting....
Why doesn't the SJ post the same level of reporting about crime in the city as it does crime in the River Valley????? I just looked back and couldn't find any articles like this for the Lewiston-Auburn area. That and their police logs only list arrests, not all activity by the various departments. I believe the Lewiston Sun-Journal is intentionally working to suppress the River Valley area by making it look like a high crime area. SHAME ON YOU SJ!!!!!
Well...
I guess the guy who wanted to open a fireworks business will have to go somewhere else.
allow me to clarify
I decide my view based upon the facts I find, not the opinion of anyone else. I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. I am ME. You don't need to agree with me, but please do not try to categorize me either.
both sides??
I am a Moderate, that is what we do.... we look at situations, gather the facts and decide what is best. Unlike liberals and conservatives, we are not super-glued to a political platform. Our platform is common sense. :)
Stealing Jobs
A casino is already being built in Oxford County. Your effort would steal those jobs from our people and give them to your people. You have many more opportunities than we do but you have to resort to stealing jobs???? SHAME ON LEWISTON!!!!!!
Alice...
My concern from the beginning was that the town not put itself in the position of having to spend tons of money on legal fees in court. You stated that I "learned", but my position has not changed. I listened to both sides, but in the end, it is the facts, not opinion that make the difference. It is difficult to trust facts from an angry lynch mob of lobbyists. I still say that the methods used to develop this ordinance were unbalanced and unproductive. Had the board not given in to the lynch mob lobbyists, but rather worked with them and the pro-wind lobby to discuss this in a reasonable manner, perhaps we could have come to this conclusion a year and a half ago and not wasted that time.
Oh NO!!!
Now the Republicans are going to have to pass a law preventing 4-year-olds from entering the polling place, because there is solid evidence that they are voting. If we don't nip this in the bud, before you know it, there will be pre-natal voting going on, and the abortion laws will be overturned!!!!
name-calling
Frank, don't look now, but your lack of maturity is showing :(
Ed...
Regardless of what anyone thinks of wind power, the developers weren't intending upon paying taxes. They were looking to get their taxes rebated to pay for the project despite the fact that the entire project is subsidized by the federal government. Meanwhile, they get to keep the profits from welling the power to out-of-state companies. There would have been no tax revenue, no reduction in our power rates, and no other benefit, but we would be "blessed" with the sight and sound of the wind towers.
I am sorry that some landowners were unable to profit from this project. As with any business venture involving public regulation, sometimes decisions made have unintended consequences. Moving forward, we need to work together as a community to identify ways to build our tax base and economy. While it is unlikely that other projects will provide the same financial opportunity for these landowners, I would ask that they not work against any efforts to maximize the utilization of the resources we currently have. There are many great ideas out there, and one landowner can be key to the success or failure of any one of them. I have heard of landowners planning to block access to their land to snowmobile traffic in retribution for not having the opportunity to profit from the wind project. This would shut down snowmobile access to large sections of our community, and be a negative economic impact on our economy. I truly hope that these landowners reconsider such action. Our area relies upon the snowmobile visits from vacationers. The clubs do an excellent job of maintaining the trails. To throw that away over wind-power would be unwise.
Regional Cooperation
Mexico and eventually Dixfield are going to have to consider either going the route that Bethel took or working out an arrangement with Rumford. If they come together as a regional police force with a fair cost-sharing formula, many of the problems of each department can be eliminated. The problem is getting the boards of selectmen to work out a plan.
Picture Perfect
Now, THAT is how you take a mug shot. Unless you are from Rumford, and know that they take their mug shots against the painted brick wall, it is so easy to deny that this picture has anything to do with being charged with a crime. The nice big smile makes it look like a news story about winning the lottery. However, based upon the situation, she must have been very drunk and didn't understand the seriousness of the situation. I am very glad that nobody was injured. This must have been a very scarey experience for the children.
8 feet is not enough
I went down to Hancock St today to check it out. I parked as would any reasonable person alongside the road in two places. I then paced out the distance from my tire to the center line. At the first stop it was 8 feet. On the second stop, I tried to get slightly closer to the curb, realizing that the average driver probably won't make that attempt. The distance was 9 1/2 feet. Given that the average vehicle is about 5 1/2 feet wide, that provides only 3 1/2 feet between the passing vehicle and the stopped vehicle if the passing vehicle is to remain on their own side of the road.
I like Jeff Sterling's suggestion. Between Sagadahoc and Tasker move the line; make the travel lane heading into town wide enough for traffic, but not for parking as it is on the Maine Ave to Lincoln Ave section. Then paint a white line indicating a parking lane on the other side with more than ample space for vehicles to pass by. Of course, since the road is technically a state highway, even though it is maintained by the town withing the compact limits, it would be wise to check with them before making any changes.
One person has asked me to assist them in collecting data to support leaving it as it is. I am open to discussion.
18 Unit Complex
I believe the 18 unit complex is merely an old unit being restored, not a new structure being built.
So...
When is the SJ going to publish the Lewiston/Auburn Crime Bulletin???? Oh, wait, that would probably take three pages DAILY!!!! By singling out Rumford, you are making it look like Rumford is the only community with crime, and that is inaccurate journalism. :(
Thanks. Terry
Thank you for clarifying that the reason Med-Care responded. Some people would read that his injuries were minor and get all upset that they were even on scene. Of course, if they hadn't shown up and it had been worse, they would have been all upset too. You just cannot win with some ignorant people.
At this point...
It seems that the squeaky wheel has been greased; the anti-wind lobby has won. However, for the good of the town we need to move on. I say we should pass this ordinance, wait for a new board to be seated in June, and consider making small amendments, if needed, to adapt the ordinance. I don't know how you feel, but my viewpoint is that they have wasted way too much time on this. How much better would our town be if the board had spent as much time and energy on economic development???? The board has given in to the powerful lobbying group, as we all knew they would. Let's just hope that it doesn't end up costing us big money in court.
Reimburse
The key word here is reimburse. You don't wait for the federal government to act before you do (people can get very old if they try). Get the job done, have a special town meeting if needed to get authorization to transfer money between accounts, and get the job done. I can't imagine that it will be as easy, nor as durable if you wait until the ground freezes. We don't need to be out there fixing the repair next spring.
Fix it
Mr Capola, Fixing the Charter to the extent that is required DOES require a Charter Commission. Anytime you are making a change that affects the way decisions are being decided, or shifting power from one entity to another, you need a Charter Commission.
The big problem that has prompted the suggestion of doing away with the Charter is that the Board of Selectmen are not allowed to obligate the town beyond the next Town Meeting. That means they must call a special town meeting to get permission to hire an additional police officer under a three year grant, because the grant requires them to fund the position for a forth year. Some contend that the selectmen, who are elected for three year terms, should be able to make decisions that extend beyond their time in office. Others assert that the decision should remain with the citizens.
Hey Frankie...
I know a guy who will handle that tree problem at no cost to the town :) :p
More Welfare for the Rich
Dr. Aniel can afford to plow his own driveway. Why do people with the means to do something themselves try to get a government hand-out?? Perhaps we should take a bunch of people up there to the "end of the road" and have a party. If you include the entire right-of-way, there would be ample room. I wonder if Dr. Aniel would call the police and have us removed. Sorry Doc, but you come out looking really bad on this issue no matter how you look at it. Even if it were technically a legal road, the town shouldn't have to maintain it just for you. There is a space to turn around down below, and there is no reason why you cannot clear the snow.
Rumford musician plans great escape
I am confused... will Bill Hoyt also escape from the box while playing the spoons???? :)
:)
The Clarks are a great asset to the community. Dixfield is lucky to have such dedicated citizens.
Fines
The fines should at the very least include the cost of all medical care and kennel costs for the animals until they are placed.
all I can say is....
no comment
it's about time
Just get it over with and out of the way. There is so much more on which our board and town manager need to be concentrating. When your town is facing tough economic times, it is not a golden opportunity to spend two years bantering over a single issue. :(
Like I said...
As long as you allow the lobbyists to be involved in the workshops, this thing is going to drag on forever. I have no doubt that any ordinance approved by this board is going to cost the town dearly in the courtroom because the majority are anti-wind, and the end result will be an ordinance that prevents wind from developing.
Hmmmm...
Anyone who thought that a casino owner was going to hire their top management from a field of candidates consisting of retail and manufacturing leaders was dreaming. Would you open a multi-million dollar business with management having no experience in the business??? Ms. Hilton goes a bit to the extreme though. Just because upper management is likely to be people from away, that doesn't mean Mainers will be left with janitorial jobs. There are many more jobs involved in running a casino than just management and custodial positions. Ms. Hilton is obviously anti-casino and using her style of debate to scare people into her way of thinking. SHAME ON HER. :(
Some say "Why Bother"?
The majority of the board wants to block wind power. They have an ordinance that will do exactly that. If they just put that same ordinance in front of the voters and it passes (because people are tired of hearing about wind) the developers could bring a legal challenge against the town. However, if they craft a new ordinance that seems more lenient, (but still in effect blocks wind) the town may not face a legal challenge, or may be able to better defend itself against a challenge that does come up. Still, we are effectively asking unqualified people to draft an ordinance, so they must be getting direction from the outside lobbyists.Drafting an ordinance of this magnitude requires much more expertise than is available in this town.
OMG!!!
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BUT CANDICE CASEY PROMISED!!!!!! :(
If you can't believe your friendly neighborhood busy body, who can you believe?? We were told we were going to have a tax increase, and darn it all we want our increase!! We cannot allow Candice to be wrong on this, or any other issue. It just cannot be allowed!!!! What is this world coming to, first Ron is wrong about a delay in the construction of the Amatos, and now this?? Now get the accountants back to work and find that tax increase!! :p
But seriously...
I am glad that our town is in such good fiscal shape that even in this economy, we are able to keep from having to increase taxes on the local level. Now if we can get busy on growing our tax base, maybe we can reduce everybody's taxes.
:(
Time to grow up Trev.
After reviewing the facts....
It seems that the only reason this was deemed critical WAS so that the people involved in the Oct 1st event would see it. There wasn't even a guarantee that it would be installed by then, but that was the basis of the so called "critical circumstance".
Removal
Fred,
First of all, the board cannot remove one of its own members. There is a process for recalling a selectman in Rumford.
Secondly, if every selectperson who didn't make sense in their statements and/or actions from time to time were removed, we would quickly run out of citizens to run. Every board member has done something that people oppose, and unless they do something that is blatantly illegal, it would be hard to remove any of them.
Be Careful Andy...
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Critical Circumstance
Is it truly critical to the functioning of the town that this kiosk be erected before a canoe event, or even winter?? Yes, it would be nice, but critical????? Aside from the people who may see it on October 1st, how many will see the new kiosk over the winter?? Snowmobile operators will see it, but they are not likely to be thinking of canoeing. I think that in this instance the "critical circumstance" ordinance was abused.
Economic Developer
According to the discussions I have had, this is not a full time position, it is not even a true case of employment; it is planned as a stipend based position to handle certain tasks on a limited basis. It is actually a great opportunity for a college student seeking to gain experience while working on a related degree.
Mug Shot
Now THERE is a guy who knows how to pose for a mug shot. Although, if he is guilty, I would personally like to wipe that smile off his face. But my point is that the only way you know this is a mug shot is because of the background. There are not many heavily painted white brick walls in town, and the ones that do exist are not popular tourist attractions. So, except for an ID photo, I can't think of an excuse for such a picture. Perhaps if the PD had used the paneling background instead, there may be more excuses for having such a photo. :)
New law??
When does that new law making fireworks legal go into effect? Wouldn't it be ironic if it were the day after this incident?? :)
Mug Shot
Jeremy, Always smile for a mug shot, that way you can deny that it is a mug shot when it turns up on the Internet (or in the newspaper). Not your best look, but certainly not your worst :). Ya know, a few facial piercings and a Billy Idol sneer and you would look like an 80s punk rocker :)
Frankie....
You know that once a Charter Commission is formed, there is no controlling what they do. That is part of the safeguards in the process. This is why it is important to handle election of Charter Commission members just as you would Selectmen. Have a candidates night and ask questions. The appointed members also need to be selected carefully.
Cotton??
What is cotton going to do to protect a hatch in a hurricane??? :)
You drive the trucks...
It is YOUR responsibility to assure that nobody is under your tires before you move a single inch.
Impaired or Reckless??
Hey Doug, I know you are a professional with a keen sense for impaired drivers, but there is something wrong here. Either this guy was impaired, or he has no regard for safety at all. Either way, he does not belong on the road.
Tickled as you may be....
once again, Mr. DiConzo you are going overboard. Yes, the board is making different decisions, but that does not mean that there is a dictatorship. Just as in Washington where the majority shifted from one party (approach) to another, so have things shifted here. I don't agree with every decision made, but I am not one of the decision makers.
You state a number of good points, but please consider being less extreme in your depiction of the power structure. We live in a democracy, and this is how a democracy works. You know as well as anyone that if I believed anything underhanded were happening, I would not sit quietly and let it continue.
I am all for open acces of information, but...
based upon the information presented in this article, it would seem that Mr. Hines is going overboard.
The best action for a town to take is to set a policy on how FOIA requests are handled, including a process for setting a time frame as to how quickly one can expect access to information. If a request is made to a department with no regularly paid staff, the request may reasonably be expected to take longer than a department with a secretary.
Another good practice is to save electronic copies of documents as you go. If they are produced on a computer, save a copy in PDF format. If they are not, scan them as they are made/updated to PDF format. This allows for easy transfer of information, or posting on a web site.
I understand that municipal offices and departments are very busy. I usually can find out what I need by just speaking with the proper person for a few moments. I don't recall ever making an official FOAA request, and those who know me know that I like to keep a close eye on what is happening in my community.
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I didn't have to be there to know what goes on. It is just THAT predictable. :(
Trademarks
Unfortunately, trademark laws are so loose that you can trademark just about anything. I would like to trademark the word "fun" so that nobody could have "fun" anumore without paying me. :)
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
It is getting old listening to the anti-wind lobbyists spout out the same old crap every time there is an article about wind power.
I am not saying that their information is not valid, nor important, but after a year and a half of listening to the same old record playing over and over, it becomes annoying. I understand that your plan is to annoy people enough to get them to vote an ordinance that you can support. I guess that is how a vocal minority manipulates the process to get their way.
I am not saying that everyone else is pro-wind. Many either don't care or are so tired of hearing you whine that they don't engage in discussion.
My personal opinion is that we need to address the issue fairly without passing an ordinance that effectively bans wind development.
Motivation??
We have more development heading our way, if we don't blow it. Every negative comment on a public web site has the potential of ruining the efforts of our economic development team. If you want Rumford to remain as it is, keep it up with the negative comments. But, if you want Rumford to grow, stop tearing down everything that happens.
:)
The score at the last game was fun-fun :)
:)
The score at the last game was fun-fun :)
Hmmm
I didn't know about the ice cream shop plans. Perhaps if it is different enough, the impact on the two existing shops will be minimal. I would like to see one of the ice cream shops in the area be a Dairy Queen. :)
Frankie's problem
Frankie's problem is that anyone who speaks against him is wrong, he is very black & white in his position. Perhaps if he took time to actually read and understand what I have posted, he would not be so quick to attack a person who has supported him when others have not.
Recently I posted a comment regarding the tree issue of a few years ago. I commented that politics blew it way out of proportion. Frankie took this as an attack on him, and now has accused me of being on the "other side".
Well, MR. DICONZO, I don't join sides. I hold my own beliefs based upon the available facts. I make suggestions based upon what I believe to be the most prudent action for the town. So, you can take your accusations and political posturing about me and my positions and plant them in a conspicuous place, and see if they grow.
no flip-flop
Frank,
I don't flip-flop, I haven't taken a position on wind power. I stand for assuring that the procedure is as fair as possible for both sides. If you don't know that by now, you will never understand me.
Sorry Frank
I believe you have gone too far, you cannot prove everything you have said, it is merely your opinion, but you state it as fact. You imply that the anti-wind people have paid off three selectmen. That is an accusation, and could end you up in court. You need to be more careful what you say.
I don't agree that any of the Selectmen "don't care about your town". They could say that you don't care about it because you are willing to allow wind power to come to town unregulated. The difference is each persons perception of the impact of these towers. The anti-wind people see it as a threat from which they want to protect the town; and you see the blocking of wind power as a message to other business that Rumford is not business friendly. Regardless of who is right, and who is wrong, everyone is working toward what they perceive is in the best interest of the town, because they care for the town.
Trees
Don't worry Frankie, everyone knows how you feel about removing trees. As a matter of fact, Brad Adley mentioned that he knew a guy who could remove the trees downtown. I am not sure exactly of whom he was speaking, but I believe you were close to the top of the list. ;)
In all fairness, I must say that the tree cutting controversy in the past would not have caused such a fuss if politics had been different. Unfortunately, our town was in a really bad political battle (almost as bad as the current mess in Washington D.C.). In that scenario, people will say and do anything to attack their opponent. Luckily, our town has moved past that, and now we have a board that respectfully works through problems. There are still some small piddly issues that crop up on a regular basis, keeping the Town Manager from working on moving forward, but overall our town is functioning well.
Slow news day??
This is so common, it hardly qualifies as news.
Charter
Our Town Charter is not the problem because it is old, most of the problems were caused by amendments that were made without going through the proper process. Hastily made legislation to change the Charter has created this mess and taken away the authority of the citizens to make decisions.
If you want a small handful of people to make all of the decisions for where you live, move to a country run by a monarch, or move to a place that is run under a council form of government. Either option will work, but it is not the way our country was designed. WE THE PEOPLE are supposed to be in control of our communities, not bureaucrats and people with corporate puppet strings. Bring America back to the way it is supposed to be.
There is a solution...
The way our budget is set up, there is minimal fiscal oversight. When we changed voting from the Town Meeting to ballot box, we lost all control over line items. For example, Public Safety includes Emergency Management, Utilities (Street Lights and Hydrants), Police & Fire Retirement, and Code Enforcement. Both the Selectboard and the Finance Committee still get a say over what the individual line item amounts will be, but the people don't. We have a choice of two totals.
What's worse, even the Selectboard and Finance Committee are unable to delve below the surface on the large department budgets. For example, the Police and Fire Department budgets are only a single line item, so both boards can discuss changes they would like to see in these budgets, but there is no means for them to modify line items under the budget. To me, it makes sense for both budgets to be broken down into line items such as staffing, training, equipment purchase and maintenance, mutual aid costs, overtime, and office costs. This would allow both the finance committee and Selectboard to adjust costs within the department. As it stands, the department heads have free reign as long as they stay under the magic number.
I have advocated for a change in the rules to require a department head to get permission from the Selectboard if they are going to overrun any line item. Unfortunately, the rule as stated is not clear, and allows overruns between line items without approval as long as the bottom line is not exceeded.
My suggestion is that the larger department budgets be broken down into line items for the annual warrant, the Selectboard and Finance Committee work with the department heads to come to a reasonable amount for each line item, and the town find a way to restore the power of Town Meeting without doing away with the ballot box for final approval.
This budget is OUR budget for OUR town, and WE should have a greater say in how OUR money is spent.
Luckily...
We are so fortunate that nobody was killed. This woman' selfish need to be intoxicated, and her foolish decision to drive only damaged inanimate objects.... this time.
Unfortunate
Over the six years Scott was Director, he has worked hard to assure that our county is prepared to handle a variety of incidents. He has improved our readiness by leaps and bounds. It is unfortunate that this issue resulted in him leaving the position. I wish him well in whatever path he chooses.
I know that Allison has the leadership skills to not only maintain the programs that Scott has begun, but to work with local emergency planners to further expand the resilience, readiness, and preparedness of our county.
Thibodeau
I also raised a concern about Jim Thibodeau being on the same board as his son Kenrick, but the explanation was made that in small towns, such things are unavoidable. I say re-advertise and at least attempt to avoid it.
Confused
If he did not abuse his access to the information and distributed the information to others in the public safety realm, wouldn't it be up to those people to assure that they did not abuse their access to the information?
???
Is this the same new cruiser I saw being used yesterday around 4pm? What time was the town meeting, and how quickly did the vendor get the car prepped and delivered??
Ayuh
This is becoming common place as wind development expands.
TIF Details
A TIF is a tool used by a municipality to encourage business development, and designate funds for future development. The money can be designated to other purposes, including upgrade of infrastructure (water, sewer, streets, etc) or be directed to future economic development efforts. The most important part of a TIF is that the increase in taxes that would normally reduce our state revenue sharing and state education funds, don't.
If a TIF is used to assist with the funding of a project, there is typically a secondary benefit (such as jobs) to the community. Also, a TIF is for a limited time, and can be designed to be regressive so that the value of the property and buildings sheltered reduced over time, adding to the tax rolls.
Erosion
If the area around the island were not protected by cement, annual erosion would have undermined river street decades ago. The cement also prevents the build up of debris that could eventually increase the risk of flooding. I believe this was all part of the W.P.A. project.
Dan
If Mr. Fayen ever screws up a story about the Free Store again, he had better be ready for Margaret to really let loose on him. She is one momma bear you don't want to get angry.
Store NOT closing
In a discussion with Margaret this morning, I was informed that the store was only to be closed for a couple of days. She is upset that the reporter mis-represented the information she provided. Please continue to support the Free Store, and join them for a benefit to replace their furnace and roof Here are the details from a Facebook Invite:
Time:Friday, July 1 · 9:00am - 3:00pm
Location:Free Store/ Santas Helpers parking lot
Rain date July 2, 2011.
There will be a Chinese Aution, 50/50, bake sale, cake walk, DJ & much more. Help us save the Free Store/ Santa's Helpers. Proceeds will help purchase a new furnace. Any donations welcomed. Thank you to all who have donated already & those who are going to donate. We need to pull together as a community to continue serving the community!!!!!
Yes Alice , there is a petition clause
Both the current method of government and a Town Council form of government have the right to petition, but if a board is against something, a petition will force a costly town meeting and ballot vote on most issues. An activist board can cause such a stink over a single issue, that some people will vote against it because of the turmoil.
State Law
The board will find that State Law requires a Charter Commission for major changes or the elimination of our Charter. It is not as simple as a simple yes/no vote. Elimination of the Charter will give up local control over how our government operates.
I see this as the second step in removing the rules, so that our elected officials can have more power. Actions such as this could lead to a Town Council form of government, where the people have no authority except to elect Council members, and the right to petition. If you like the authority you have on the state and federal level, consider being that ineffective in your own town.
The first step in removing the rules, was the board's deciding to not adopt a set of rules of order. Effectively, there are no set rules for their meetings. Decisions are at the whim of Chairman Buccina, and do not have to be evenly enforced. He can decide to shut up one person and let the next speak for hours.
Rumford is quickly becomming a lawless society.
:)
Whatcha fishin' for?
Passat
What kind of fish is that?
No Parking
Somebody needs to put a "No Parking" sign on a floating platform out in the middle of the pool. :)
No Parking
Somebody needs to put a "No Parking" sign on a floating platform out in the middle of the pool. :)
Don't be fooled
Mr Buotte was on the committee that spent over a year drafting the previously defeated ordinance, which effectively made it impossible for wind power to come to Rumford. In my opinion, he and the small group that is comprised mostly of his family members and people from adjacent towns have attempted to bully the board into placing the exact same ordinance on the ballot. THEY DON'T WANT WIND POWER.
Our Board of Selectmen have wisely moved beyond that roadblock and drafted a less restrictive ordinance. Thanks to Selectman Sterling, the board now has a document that provides protections without totally banning the wind power projects. It may not be perfect, and I am not suggesting you vote for it on my word, but don't be bullied.
My only concern here is that we be fair and follow the rules. I am neither a proponent nor an opponent of wind power. I have no financial interest, nor ties to the development of wind power. But just like children on the playground,I won't stand by and watch a small group of bullies get in the way of what is fair.
Don't let the bullies win.
Procedure
Alice, I am not addressing wind power, I am speaking about the ordinance. Based upon the comments made by many, it is obvious that they want to block, not regulate wind power. Unfortunately, the rules do not allow us to do that, so we need to approve an ordinance that will regulate it without blocking it.
Won't be satisfied
The 12-15 citizens who constantly show up at the ordinance hearings and meetings are generally tied to the original ordinance that was voted down. That ordinance would have been a de-facto ban on wind power in Rumford. This small group will say anything they have to to discredit anything less than the previously defeated ordinance. They don't want wind power in the valley, and they are trying very hard to keep it from happening. I commend them on their persistence. However, the law does not permit us to ban wind power, and if we did, the state and developers could cause legal problems for the town. Those opposed to wind power claim that wind power will have detrimental affects on people who will, in turn, sue the town for not protecting them. But if the town has an ordinance in place that is at least as restrictive as ordinances in other towns, they will have done what is reasonably expected in addressing the issue.
Finance Committee
The Finance Committee does not do the audit. It would be unreasonable to believe that a volunteer board of persons from varied professions could be put in the position of auditing a town. Mr. Blake brings a team in with him to perform the audit.
Elections are coming
It will be interesting to see if any Republicans win in the next election. My guess is that the people will look at the actions of the Republicans both locally and nationwide and vote them all out. It is sad that the radical right has given the party such a bad name in such a short amount of time. The current Republican party is not my cup of tea.
Another Challenge
Another challenge communities face is in spending money to fund economic development efforts. A well meaning volunteer who may have contributed many hours of work may feel entitled to a position when it is posted. When the volunteer is not chosen as the leading candidate, that person may protest loudly, perhaps even throwing a tantrum, causing people who may have been skiddish about spending the money for the effort to withdraw their support and leaving the town without a concerted effort. This can cripple economic efforts in a community and cause problems with potential entrepreneurs who instead of having faith in a community, now see it as unstable and unwilling to work with potential businesses. Even the most skilled municipal board can have difficulty overcoming the damage caused by such an individual.
Budget
The key to improving our state/national financial problem is not to take more money away from working people. A 2% decrease in revenue for a working person causes a ripple effect throughout the economy. It causes them to cut back on spending in their communities, which causes local businesses to have to cut back on employee hours; which, in turn causes them to cut back on spending. If you want the economy to grow, you need to not try to balance the budget on the workers.
If the Republicans would stop excluding the wealthy from paying taxes, our government would have the revenue it needs to operate. I agree that waste has to be cut from government budgets, but those choices need to be made when the economy is good, not when it is bad. The Republicans manufactured this economic down-turn as an excuse to make cuts. They felt that the only way to garner support for their actions was by creating crisis. They either didn't think it through, or didn't care. While the working class is struggling to remain in their homes, the wealthy are getting wealthier. Before we know it, we will be back to the middle ages, with indentured servants and feudal lords.
People, do not be fooled by the Republicans. They are going for total power of the wealthy at the expense of the middle class.
600/30=20
So, if we eliminate 30 positions per year for 20 years, we can totally eliminate education costs. Hurray for the Republicrats (politicians).
If they had only eliminated the tax credits for the top 1%, the Federal government wouldn't have had to cut subsidy. More people could remain working, which means more revenue to the state. It also means more buying power, which spurs the economy, which generates more jobs, which means more revenue to the state. which means more buying power, which spurs the economy, which means more revenue to the state. which means more buying power, which spurs the economy...
Oh, by the way, it also means that our children actually learn something in school. But nobody cares about that.
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According to the law, they are. According to maturity level, there are some senior citizens who are not adults.
Hey Jeff....
23 and 24 year old people are adults.
Proper Behavior at Meetings
At the meeting last night, most of the audience behaved themselves. They refrained from outbursts, cheers and jeers. Unfortunately, one citizen from a neighboring town arrived late and chose to ignore the rules of etiquette and rules of order by which meetings are run. The offending person, whom I will not name, proceeded to hold conversations with others in the audience, scoff when something said disagreed with the person's opinion, chortle at statements made, speak out loud at statements made, and even laugh out loud at statements made. Luckily for the person, Carlo Puiia, who ran the meeting, did not choose to make an issue of the disturbance. Under Maine law, a person can be removed from a meeting for such behavior. Aside from the legal aspects of the behavior, it is rude. Some people attend meetings to actually hear what is being said by the official participants. We don't want to have someone come in from another town to interfere with our ability to do so.
If you want to be part of a meeting run as a circus, do so in your own town. You will not see me come to be a part of it, nor to correct you. What you do in your town is up to your townspeople. If they want to condone disrespect and rude behavior, that is their choice.
Goodbye Summer
With additional school days, and a delayed opening, on top of the snow days, the schools will eventually be deciding whether or not to take the 4th of July as a paid holiday. What is the underlying rationale for this bill? It can't be quality of education, because state mandates already have taken that out of schools. Teaching has gone out the window, and the "teachers" in the classrooms are merely programming the students.
Hmmm...
Well, if you want to blame it all on the special ed kids, then you have picked the wrong adversary. Many of the children in Special Ed classrooms have the ability to achieve, but historically, have been pigeon-holed. As you admit, 50 years ago they were segregated. They were cast aside by society. Some were even institutionalized at great expense to society. Today, many are able to transition into classrooms where they achieve and even excel. My daughter started out in a special ed classroom, and now is an honor student. Those who cannot achieve (the ones who used to be placed in institutions) are taught basic skills for living in society, such as shopping. This reduces the burden on society for future services. Having them in the same building, allows the higher functioning children transition into the mainstream classroom. It assists the lower functioning students in being able to interact with peers their own age. Of course there are bullies like you who would blame the ills of the world upon them and treat them poorly, but there are some people in the world who believe in treating everyone as a human being.
Now, about that teaching thing. Thanks to government mandates, teachers are no longer given the luxury of being able to actually teach. They have become programmers, whose sole job it is to program children's brains to pass the state mandated assessment. The Ed Tech positions are in place to support the teacher with students who are not easily programmed (such as special ed students. They are not in every classroom, and not every special ed student has their own ed tech.
Now, back to my comments.... The Republicans claim to be in favor of jobs, but they want to cut education. Education prepares students for jobs, but the wealthiest Americans don't have to worry about that because they can send their children to private schools. By cutting funding to education, they are cutting jobs and reducing the access to education for the middle and lower class. This will make our country less effective in the labor market, and cause companies to avoid using the American workforce. But that's okay, because the companies are owned by the wealthiest Americans, and they make their money from the oversees corporations.
The tax breaks were intended to put money into the economy. It worked because the middle class spent, not because of the top 1%. It was ethically and morally wrong for the Republicans to hold legislation hostage in exchange for the tax credits for the top 1% . I would have gladly paid more in taxes in exchange for the top 1% having to do the same. While we are at it, I would like to see all tax loopholes closed too. Some of those wealthiest 1% pay less in taxes than I do. Trickle down economics does not work.
Multiple Choice Option Improper
It is always interesting when a fill-in reporter covers a story. The above piece is the perfect example of this. Ms. Adams did a fine job of covering the meeting, but she missed the fact that the board has been working on this ordinance since the last proposal was shot down.
Last night it was proposed that there be as many as five ordinances listed from which the people could choose. Presenting that many choices would not only be confusing and improper form for a ballot, but it would split the vote to allow a special interest group to push through the proposal they want, most likely the one that the voters turned down this past fall.
Somebody suggested that the voters should have a choice, but it was pointed out by myself and Ms. Casey that the board is responsible to review the options and present what they recommend is best for the town. Not doing so is neglecting their duty to the town. Passing an overly restrictive ordinance opens the town to the likelihood of defending it in court at a high legal cost. it also would give the message that our community is anti-business.
It is a delicate process balancing between protecting the town from any adverse affects of any industry, and protecting the town from prosperity.
Thanks Republicans
Thanks to the Republicans for reducing the number of jobs, and simultaneously reducing the quality of education for our children. At the same time, they gave a continued tax break to the wealthiest people in the nation. Way to build an economy. :(
Bloodsucking pests
Bedbugs?? I thought this article was about politicians :)
Tipping
When was the last time you sat at a table and thought to yourself, "Gee, this table was wiped down really well, and the setting is really straight, I think I will give the busboy ten dollars?"
When was the last time you tipped a hostess (not counting the time you asked for a special table)?
When was the last time you felt inclined to go out into the kitchen and compliment, much less tip, the dishwasher?
How often do you tip the cook at the local diner for piling your slop in the plate just right?
Contact the sponsors
Sponsored By: Senator LANGLEY of Hancock
667-0625 SenBrian.Langley@legislature.maine.gov
Cosponsored By:
Representative KNIGHT of Livermore Falls
(not listed on state web site)
Senator MASON of Androscoggin
577-1521 SenGarrett.Mason@legislature.maine.gov
Representative MORRISON of South Portland
(207) 831-0828
Senator THIBODEAU of Waldo
223-5177 SenMichael.Thibodeau@legislature.maine.gov
Senator TRAHAN of Lincoln
832-4135 dptrahan@midcoast.com
Cook & Support staff
Cooks, bus staff, dishwashers, hostesses, and prep staff should all be getting full minimum wage. There is no need for tipping them unless you want to.
Union River Lobster Pot in Ellsworth
Based upon this news, there are many people who will now not go to the Union River Lobster Pot. It is unfortunate for the employees who work there, but some people refuse to support a business where management disrespects the employees.
Serenity
It is 6:40 in the evening, as the world settles in to rest after a long day, you can hear the crickets chirping in the tall grass. No longer are we disturbed by the sounds of machine gun fire and mortar shells exploding around us. Once in a while some young teens will set off a fire cracker or two, no harm is done, but mother is still startled. As I sit on the rocking chair on the front porch, I wonder if one of the neighbors will meander down the path to banter over politics or the events of the day. With the snipers gone, it is now safe to do so more freely. I believe I could learn to enjoy this.
too funny
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too funny
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Hooray!!!!
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Reset?
So after tomorrow, will our cumulative agrees and disagrees be reset? Why have the data if it has been Candiced?? :)
Boys and girls
I cannot imagine that your layout people are so cloistered that they don't know the difference. Don't you let them out of their cages when they are done working? ;)
Well, I never! :)
I express my opinions, and share what I understand from speaking with those involved. I have never represented my opinion as that of the board, nor the opinion of the Town of Rumford. If you believe I have, please site references. Thank You.
Opportunity
This provides an opportunity for loocal entrepenures to offer to take away your junk for a small fee.
One of the problems with eliminating the spring clean-up is the loss of opportunity for treasure seekers to find a new home for discarded furniture and items. It can be easily speculated that this factor reduces the amount disposed of by at least half. Hopefully, they will be able to find more when the clean-up returns.
One reason for the decline in the amount picked up over the years, is due to tighter restrictions on what is allowed. Some people have torn down entire buildings, leaving the debris for the town to remove. This is no longer allowed. However, if the persons who did that considered the time and energy involved in cutting the wood into four-foot lengths, they would realize that it would have been more efficient to hire someone to take away the debris whole.
Access Channel
Frank,
If someone wants a program shown on the access channel, they can submit it. However, they would be responsible for obtaining permission to telecast the program which is copyright. The board cannot demand that it be shown, especially if permission is not granted. If you recall, I had a little bit to do with the start up of that channel, and I maintain contact with the statewide association of access channels. If you require more information, please feel free to contact me.
Initiated Articles
I am glad to see that Mr. Puiia is working hard to assure that the rules are followed.
Why be concerned?
I see nothing wrong with shopping in pajamas as long as they are clean and not styled for erotic enticement. I wouldn't do it, primarily because I won't waste the money to buy pajamas, but I am usually seen wearing moccasin style slippers when I am not at work.
If someone wants to saunter in their sponge-bobs or shop in their scooby-doos, you won't hear me complain. Obviously, there is some anatomy that needs to be adequately secured to avoid escape, but that is only common sense, and not resticted to pajamas.
If you think of it, there is no significant difference between pajamas and typical "day-clothes"; they all cover the essentials, and provide a certain sense of style. If someone is opposed to the style another is wearing, that is their problem.
The people of our nation need to get a grip. Our nation is the most (pardon the pun) hung up on what we wear, and where. The human body comes in two basic models (male and female), some are compact, others are heavy duty, but for the most part, all of the same parts are present in the same places (your results may vary). Somehow it is offensive to see a person in pajamas, but when the warm weather arrives, it is okay to see them in a bikini top (which looks an awful lot like a colored bra)? Get real, people.
As long as people are being respectful of others and following the laws, why be concerned? Under Maine State Law, a person could shop in a speedo if they chose, so let's not complain about full body pajamas :)
Expert?
Ms. Pease,
I find it funny that you tell us to seek out information from those who have no financial stake in wind developments, then you then go on to state "facts" from unknown sources. You expect us to accept what you say, without disclosing whether or not you have ties to wind initiatives. Based upon what I read, you appear to be an anti-wind lobbyist. How do we know you aren't? Due to the overwhelming amount of lobbying on both sides, it is virtually impossible to research wind development on the Internet. It is just as difficult to research it using "professionals" because they all have an opinion.
I believe that the best option is to provide a reasonable ordinance with reasonable protections. If we attempt to pass an ordinance to block development entirely, the town will end up spending big bucks in court defending the ordinance. If we have no ordinance, we go unprotected.
message vs intent
I support the intent of Governor LePage's words, but not the words he chose to express himself. I agree that leaders on all levels get too wrapped up with talking to special interest groups. It is good to be informed, but beyond that, there need to be limits.
If you have an issue you would like to address with an official, send them a letter, or email and provide contact information for questions. If specific legislation is involved, you can request to speak to the official, but realize that your request may still be denied. Remember that the official represents everyone within the area he/she serves, not just you. Above all, please remember that the official has work to do, and can't achieve anything if he/she spends his/her day talking with everyone.
Editors??
I know Terry's writing, and he would never butcher an article like this. Editors must have screwed it up.
:(
I am so sorry to hear of her passing. She was always very pleasant when I spoke with her. My deepest condolences to her family.
Huh
That's not how they put out the fire in the movie. :)
:)
The meeting to which you refer was as you have stated. However, Scott Cole has researched the cost effectiveness of eliminating all police departments in the county, he was consulted by someone in Rumford regarding the study, and I do recall reading the document. It may not be part of any meeting minutes, and it may not have been part of any official board meeting. I have wasted way too much time bantering this issue with you, so I will end my comments there.
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It really wasn't that important to me. However, the fact that you had to dig to find the answer on such a minute issue says quite a bit about how you choose to use your time. I have more important things to do.
Have a Nice Day!
Which Meeting???
I don't recall the date, or even the year, but Scott Cole did address the Rumford Selectmen about his plan to have all police coverage in oxford County come under the Sheriffs Department. It wasn't just Bethel. He is now the Administrator for Oxford County, so perhaps that could lend itself to a reason for his being concerned for the other towns.
I guess you had to be there
Just like inside jokes, I guess you had to be there to believe it. You obviously weren't there when the proposal was made, so you don't believe it happened.
It is my understanding that
The selectmen will likely appoint two more officers. They are concerned for the safety of the officers and the liability for the town. Realistically, aside from a suggestion by former Bethel Town Manager Scott Cole that Rumford consider coverage by the Sheriff's Department, there have been no other options that have been considered by the board. They cannot just cut two officers without having a plan to maintain 24 hour coverage for the town. Many of the incidents that occur on the overnights would be unsafe for a single officer to handle alone, and officers from other departments cannot cover Rumford while doing justice to their communities. If anyone has a suggestion, please let somebody know so that it can be discussed.
Reports indicate that
The number of people on the ice today was much higher since the newspaper article. One person estimated that over 150 people were out there. Today was an awesome day to be outside, the weather was perfect. Unfortunately, my schedule kept me indoors. :(
It could have gone either way
From what I heard, both sides had really good arguments.
Congratulations to both officers.
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Sorry Mac, I ran your name on a national search and found nobody in the U.S. with that name. NOBODY.
Hurray!!! I'm Green!!!!
What a nice pleasant person Patti is on the phone. I can barely wait.....
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I would be willing to send in a copy of my drivers license to keep the riff raff off of these forums.
Please do...
I am sure that Terry Karkos would provide you with a very illuminating expose on me and certain other people in town. :)
Hmmm...
I was merely using myself as an example of how people respond to an outspoken person in public. I would have used you, but I don't know you. I really didn't want to get into any detail about what I do outside of the political realm. It is off topic.
By the way, I like my eggs scrambled. :)
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Everything I have posted in this discussion about myself is truth.
You can't say she isn't entertaining
Entertaining, but inaccurate. I would give her high marks for creative writing.
1. I never "worked" for the local access TV station. I was the founder, and I was a volunteer. I may have served on the board, but I don't recall.
2. I do not currently, nor have I ever had a weekly TV show. in my comments, I was referring to my speaking at the televised Rumford Selectmen's meetings.
3. I do not attend any other municipal meetings in the valley. I rarely attend any others in Rumford.
4. I work for four companies, none of which is owned by any of my family members.
ArmyMom's comments just go to show how little she knows about me. It is easy to make up lies about someone.
"It isn't easy being green" - Kermit the Frog
I am hoping to "go green" tomorrow :)
I disagree
"Ben",
As anyone who knows me, knows of me or may even think that they know me will tell you, I am quite open about my opinions wherever I go. I post here, I talk with people in public, and I am seen twice a month on TV expressing myself at the municipal selectboard meeting. I also have run a blog for a number of years, and participated in forums regarding our region. In short, I express myself A LOT. As you can see from the responses here, my openness is not as appreciated by some as it is by others, and not everyone agrees with my viewpoint. I respect people's right to disagree, however, as they say on MSNBC, "you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts".
My point is that I rarely am confronted by anyone anywhere about my opinion. Many people who disagree with me just refuse to acknowledge that I exist, and will pass by me on the sidewalk without so much as a look in my direction, but I have rarely had anyone confront me. Those who do, approach it in a respectful manner. They initiate a conversation, referencing something they saw me post, or said on TV. Most times, the only feedback I get from the public is in the form of an "attaboy" in support of my action/statement. Some of the least political people in town have encouraged me to stay on top of the town political situation.
I have had one person attempt to get me fired from my job over political views, but the coward didn't sign the complaint. My supervisor showed it to me and told me to be more careful when discussing things in the workplace.
Once verification is required, it will be easier for the SJ to bounce someone for being abusive on the forum. Currently, violators need only wait a few days and apply for an account under another email address. But when a person gets bumped using their real name, it will be more difficult to get back on.
I agree with one point
if you are going to post something, be ready to defend your position.
THAT is why we need to be open about who we are.
First Amendment
If an employer wants to terminate my employment over my exercising my First Amendment rights, I will work somewhere else. I am not willing to sacrifice that right for anyone.
Nice gesture
I didn't know that Mexico placed individual memorial stones for all veterans who died in action, what a nice gesture.
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I. Wish them a prosperous season
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I. Wish them a prosperous season
I wish I could say I will miss you
If disclosing who you are is all it takes to scare you away, then I have little respect for you.
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I wasn't advocating that the schedule be done as posted, just showing that more hours are possible with four people. Obviously, if you reduce the 10 hour shifts to 8, the o.t. Is eliminated. In all of the jobs I have worked, I have never heard of Sundays being overtime. Even the one union job I had only paid a small differential.
As for the children's room, there doesn't need to be complete coverage during school hours as most pre-school children don't use it alone. The programs can be scheduled when the appropriate staff are working. If coverage is needed on other days, one of the workers can work at that desk.
I have never worked in any job where the hours of operation were decided based upon the preferences of the workers. I take that back, when I was 11, I had a bottle redemption business where we picked up bottles at peopl's homes. The three of us scheduled our pickups as we wanted. But, in the real world of employment, all of the jobs have decided their hours of operation before asking my availability.
Hmmm...
Based upon what has been posted, I understand that the Library is open 46 hours per week. It has four full time employees, each of whom work 40 hours per week. Every open hour requires at least two staff to be on duty. Now, I am no mathematical genius, but it would seem that the building could be open additional days based upon this information. As a matter of fact, based upon staffing, it could be open as much as 80 hours per week.
Let's take a look....
Day Staff #1 Staff #2 Staff #3 Staff #4
Monday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) off off
Tuesday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) 1-8 (7) 1-8 (7)
Wednesday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) 1-8 (7) 1-8 (7)
Thursday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) 1-8 (7) 1-8 (7)
Friday 9-5 (8) 9-5 (8) off off
Saturday off off 8-6 (10) 8-6 (10)
Sunday off off 9-6 (9) 9-6 (9)
40 hours 40 hours 40 hours 40 hours
Of course, you would want to adapt the shifts adjust for vacation and sick time coverage, but with four hours of overlap, it is possible.
Not bad for an idiot, huh??
You complain, but you don't want a solution
I have tried, ad nauseum, to find a solution to the weekend hours problem that was presented. Every suggestion I made was shot down. Unfortunately, it seems that this is how the town runs too, which leaves no question as to why it is in decline.
So...
Why couldn't the library be open on a split shift (8am to 12 noon and 3 pm to 8 pm) saving three hours each day for weekend hours?
New restrictions
I can hardly wait for the new restrictions so that you and armymom, candiceanne, and certain other users can figure out who you are. It seems that you and armymom share a similar profile description. Strange. :)
Give it a rest
I have no idea why armymom felt the need to invest so much time on that discussion. The logical response to my question would have been to identify that the inter-library loan program not only requires a bonded person to be present to exchange the items, but it also requires the library to be open at the time. Had that been clarified at the beginning, there would have been much less discussion.
Credibility
Credibility comes, not from being right, but from being careful. When an issue arises, I tend to do one of four things:
1. Ask Questions - If I don't know something (like the inter-library loan policies), I will ask questions until I receive some clarification
2. Qualify My Statements - If I am unsure instead of saying "the Charter says..." I will say " I believe the Charter says.... ... and you may want to check"
3. Make a statement as fact - If I know the answer, obviously, I will make the statement as a fact. Online, I often will cut and paste supporting information.
4. Say Nothing - In instances where I have no opinion, or choose not to express an opinion, I will just say nothing.
Nobody knows everything, but through years of education and experience, some have a better grasp of a subject than others. I would never try to tell anyone about paper making, mechanical/engineering, or construction, but I do have education and experience in other fields. That does not make me smarter or better than anyone else, just as being unfamiliar with engineering doesn't make me any less intelligent than people in that field. We all have strengths and weaknesses, and those who respect the strengths and weaknesses of others are the ones who gain the most credibility.
IDK
I don't know about the other funds, but the CDBG and TIF suggestions that were made ended in a no vote after brief discussion. You see, each town meeting costs money, and with all of the extra meetings we had this year, the funds are getting low, to the point that they are likely going to have to reallocate funds to be able to afford the annual town meeting this year. If we have another special town meeting, they may have had to have another ballot to allow the funds necessary.
Town Hall
Actually, I don't spend that much time at the town hall. I do stop in each morning to say good morning, but unless there is something pressing going on, I usually don't get wrapped up in talking about town affairs. Of the brief time I do spend, most of it is chatting with John or Tom when they aren't busy. On the average day, I would say I spend less than a half hour between all offices.
For those who doubt....
One hotel chain has already looked at a parcel of land for a motel. It would have been a lovely location with ample parking and a beautiful setting with minimal impact to the surrounding area. Unfortunately, the location was disqualified due to laws regarding setbacks from the wetlands that exists on the property. I have been told that announcement of the feasibility study has generated interest from other chains as well. My guess is that one of them will find a decent location within the next few months.
no need to check
I don't have to research that one. I was there when the decision was made. The sole reason they do not want to go after these opportunities is because they don't want to have to hold another special town meeting to get the authorization. It is simple as that.
Direct quote - 'nuf said
"Pidacks and his crew and equipment blasted and removed 8,000 yards of ledge to widen the Nordic competition stadium by 75 feet to enable mass starts of 250 skiers, Arsenault said."
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I am fully aware of the various positions at the library, and their functions. I was less than fully aware of the requirements of the Inter-Library Loan program, but through a long process, I have been able to glean the pieces that I was missing. It would seem that the Inter-Library Loan program, while valuable, forces libraries to make very tough decisions when budgets are cut. I would hope that those who complain that the library is closed on the weekends would come to understand why this decision was made.
Merry Christmas :)
A reply suitable for framing :)
Okay, so you are saying that the library has to be open when the truck arrives. Well, that does make it more difficult.
Economic Development
Jake,
You are correct in stating that BMOM is not the economic engine of our community, but please be willing to acknowledge that it does contribute to our economy. Even though many of the participants and spectators are forced to stay outside of Rumford due to a lack of sufficient lodging, their participation at BMOM is a valuable tool in attracting businesses to town. Every activity we have that brings people from outside of the valley is part of the overall attractiveness of the valley. Although some scoff at the concept of a chain motel coming to town, it is possible and more likely with BMOM being open. A chain motel will serve as an anchor for other businesses. Handled properly, we could see a seasonal influx of people over the next 10 years. The town has people working on attracting businesses. If our community can come together to work on developing more activities, the valley would be better off. We cannot just sit and complain that nobody is doing anything, without asking what we are doing.
Check your facts
The town crew did not do the blasting. You are wrong, regardless of what may be inferred or omitted in the newspaper.
Hmmmm......
This blows away the misinformation stated in the comments section of another article stating that the ledge was removed by Town of Rumford employees. What kind of world do we live in where you can't believe an anonymous post by someone with absolutely no accountability for what they write?
I will be so glad to see the SJ comments when people are identified and accountable.
direct quote
"Special Town meetings shall be called by the Board of Selectpersons to fill vacancies in elective
offices as provided in Article XX of this Charter, and for no other purpose unless in the opinion of the
majority of the Board a critical circumstance exists relating to Town affairs or the welfare of its citizens
is deemed to be presented and which requires prompt action by the voters in special meeting."
wildfires...
Dialog involves a series of questions and answers, each delving further into a topic. A question/comment about hours leads to discussion about the inter-library loan program, which leads to discussion about its requirements, and then to discussion of other facilities that do not participate. It is all very logical and sequential. Your comment regarding someone having to constantly repeat the same answer is not relevant to what actually occurred. I am sure that your name-calling directed toward me was merely a reflection of insecurities you may have in communicating with someone who thinks things through, rather than making knee-jerk responses. If the discussion is too intense for you to follow, please do not participate. I do hate having to explain things out to people who are too lazy to think.
Jay
Okay, well that explains it then. Our children are being deprived of weekend library services so that our library can serve as a central service center for most of Northern Oxford County in the Inter-Library Loan program.
I believe that the Librarian is a full time employee receiving a set salary. What prevents him from being available to receive the books, leaving other employees to cover weekend hours? I understand that there would need to be another person there for the Library to be open for business, but if the administrator is present to handle administrative duties and handle the inter-Library delivery, wouldn't that free up some weekend hours?
I can hardly wait
I can hardly wait for the SJ changeover when the gutless faceless anonymous posters will disappear and everyone will be accountable for what they say. You people make me sick.
How do others do it?
How do libraries such as Jay handle the issue? They are only open a few mornings a week.
Hmmm..
I remember them discussing using the town workers, but at the last meeting, I thought I heard Roger Arsenault say housed someone else who did more than they had expected for the cut rate fee they paid. I may have remembered it wrong.
Nice Christmas spirit
I am aware of how the library inter-library loan program works. However, there is no reason why those items cannot be exchanged at the municipal building.
Library
I never said I didn't support the library. I just pointed out that the weekend cuts were a choice that they made, not something they were forced to do. I would rather see money go to the library than to an outside entity.
Did anyone else realize that during this financial crisis, BMOM spent money to blast ledge, expand trails, build a new timing shack, and convert the old lodge (which was full of code violations when it was closed) into waxing suites for skiers to rent? That sounds like much more than $51,000 worth of improvements, but they still couldn't open without the "gift" from Rumford.
Mail
All mail can be handled through the town office, permitting them to open later on certain days and provide hours on the weekend.
Library
The Librarian and Board of Trustees have the authority to decide when the building is open. The cut in budget did not force them to decide to cut the weekends.
Just for Clarification.....
The Charter reads that the critical circumstance must be related to municipal affairs or the welfare if its citizens.
It was me
I disagreed with that offensive posting and reported it. It was all my fault.
I don't speak....
I don't speak on zoning issues, nor state regulations as that is not my area of expertise. I am glad that Phil has chimed in here to clarify those issues.
Hmmm...
Despite the fact that I believe that Candice writes under a number of names, and you are another anonymous poster whose "knowing' them (her) means nothing as we don't know your credibility, I will not accuse you of being Candice.
I agree that the area motels are struggling. The Blue Iris is run by some top quality people. They work hard to keep their property and rooms looking good. The Linnell Motel has recently been the subject of less than favorable reviews by people who once stayed there on a regular basis. I am not sure what has caused the decline, but it was always top notch when I worked there. If either establishment were affiliated with a chain, it may do better. Name recognition and online booking systems through a common web site do wonders. Also, both could benefit from better marketing both online and in print. However, those can be costly, and risky for businesses with limited revenue.
A chain motel listed as being within minutes of skiing, and snowmobile trails would likely do very well. It would attract more people to the area, and likely cause enough business to increase volume to the other two establishments. It would also attract other chain businesses. Impression is everything, and if our community has a number of chain businesses, the average traveler would perceive the community as being more developed and be more likely to stop, or even make Rumford a destination. We would need to improve our offerings in recreation and other activities, but the added volume of visitors would make it more feasible.
If we found a theme for our downtown, and then encouraged businesses around that theme, we could potentially bring our downtown back to life. Some downtown areas are based upon crafts, others on antiques. We would need ton work with the landlords and existing businesses to find what would work for our community. We are not likely to have the same downtown as Farmington, because they have a residential college in their town. We aren't going to be like Bethel, because they have two major routes going through their community, and we only have one. We need to find our identity, and develop it. Once it is established, it is essential that we promote it. Not by putting an ad in the Times, nor the SJ, but by getting a write up in Yankee or Down East, which is read by tourists.
By the way, this can all be done without the involvement of the town leaders. We the citizens can come together to make a positive difference in our community. I suggest an independent downtown development committee be formed to start working on this.
Just the reply I expected.
The super reunion monument that stands in Memorial Park has nothing to do with bringing two schools together. It was a reunion of everyone who graduated from Stephens high School. The more recent super reunion was a great event, but hardly worthy of a monument. Yes there was a rivalry between the two schools in the past, but as people mature beyond adolescence, they eventually understand that such things need not extend into contempt for a neighboring town.
It is not within my nature to call to harass citizens over political views. I do have a playful banter with certain selectmen, in the same way that some people tease each other over the Red Sox/Yankees. I was unaware that Candice was still experiencing illness.
I do not proclaim anything. I offer suggestions based upon my knowledge and experiences. You can think of me as you will, but I am not uneducated, and I tend to research a topic before presenting any kind of so-called expertise. If you listen carefully, you will hear me use qualifiers such as "I believe" and asking questions rather than proclaiming truth. The only area where I tend to be more confident, is the Rumford Charter and Ordinances, but even there, I often couch my comments with the phrase "I believe".
Candice does present some good points from time to time. However, I will reserve comment beyond that.
Complain
Strange, if the town fails to do anything, you complain, if they do something, you complain. Please make up your mind. Oh, and isn't it strange that CommonSense and Candice's "sister" posted within minutes of each other. How stoooopid do you think we are?
Complain
Strange, if the town fails to do anything, you complain, if they do something, you complain. Please make up your mind. Oh, and isn't it strange that CommonSense and Candice's "sister" posted within minutes of each other. How stoooopid do you think we are?
Ignorance and deception
Just because you are unaware of something, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. If you think of it, the monument has been there for a number of years, and the Super Reunion of which you speak happened this summer. I don't believe that the attendees of this recent Super Reunion would be vain enough to need a monument to themselves for holding such an event. However, when you bring together the alumnae from multiple decades to honor an institution that has served the community, and is about to be torn down, that is likely to generate a monument. Actually, I think the SR was held before the Stephens was slated to be demolished. It was back when the Stephens High School Alumni Association was looking to raise money to put a pool in the building. So, we are talking back at least 15 years. Perhaps you were still living in Florida operating your multi-million dollar pool supply company at the time.
As for your identity, I seriously doubt that there is any difference between you, Candice, and whatever the other name was that she was posting under a while back. The three of you all type long winded letters with the exact same substance, conceptual mis-givings, and typographical mistakes. I can understand having the same opinion, but for you all to share the exact same writing style and errors, is way beyond coincidence. Also, you often claim to have attended (or not attended) the same meetings as Candice. I have been at hose meetings, and know who was there, and what they believe, and how they express themselves, and how closely they agree with Candice. There is no way that you are not her.
Not so Common Sense
Ms. Sense,
It would seem that you are once again speaking through the wrong orifice. The Super Reunion for which that monument was placed included all graduates of Stephens High School. The Committee was headed by Jimmy Sullivan, who I assure you never attended Rumford High School. There have been super reunions since the one for which the monument was placed, but the monument was not placed for those events.
In the future, please make sure you know what you are saying before opening your mouth or approaching a keyboard. We would all be very grateful.
Don't Go There (Feat. B.o.B.) lyrics
Well people gon be people aint nobody gon change,
But we can keep it peaceful if we leave it the same,
If you don’t go there, don’t go there, don’t go there,
no, don’t go there,
Growth Council
Sorry Frank, I will not let your comments go unchallenged.
First, the blue ox would work if our community were at a different point. Unfortunately, our downtown has little left to attract tourist interest. But this is a national trend in retail. It is a good idea, with bad timing and a poor design.
Second, as I stated to you when I visited you recently, YOU as a member of the community can do quite a bit to get things moving. Len Greaney has made progress toward achieving his concept of a Memorial Park of which we can be proud. The things you have mentioned all take time and labor. You had no problem volunteering your time to remove the trees in front of the town hall, but now you have a problem helping to design a location for the SHS Super Reunion Memorial at the SHS Memorial Park?? As for placing a fighter plane or helicopter in the Memorial Park, I say it is too small. Instead, get a small tank.
Third, How dare you insinuate that Beverly Crosby spends her entire day smoking?? That is way out of line. Should we go back and evaluate your performance as a letter carrier????? What is a 701 abuser?? Did you always deliver the Sears Christmas Catalog, or did you leave it to be done on your day off? You wanna go there???? I "go there". I wrote the brochure on "going there". I belong to the "there" chamber of commerce. :)
Beverly spends her work week managing the programs of the Growth Council. There is much to be done. Just because they are not doing what you or I wish they could do, it doesn't mean that they are doing nothing. Bev takes her designated breaks, and yes, I believe she may smoke during that time. But it is way out of line for you to insinuate that she gets paid to do nothing but smoke. SHAME ON YOU FRANKIE!!!!!!!!
Military Funeral
Every soldier who dies serving his/her country deserves a military funeral. We may not agree with the mission, nor the tasks to which they are assigned, but those decisions are made by military and political leaders who, we hope, are seeking to achieve some task that helps to maintain our security as a nation. We may not understand the rationale, but that does not make the life of a soldier any less valuable. It is my hope that, one day, our politicians will learn how to make peace, not war.
facts
The board has stated that they are not going to ignore the potential impact of wind power. they will be bringing in independent consultants to discuss these issues.
Again this is a fact.
State template
For those who didn't notice, the board is going to take the state template and add in aspects of the previously proposed ordinance. Many of the issues addressed in the defeated ordinance are not even addressed in the state template. The end result will be a hybrid between the two that documents.
These are the facts.
Council
This is one reason I don't support a council form of government. It is too easy for them to go astray. I don't know what is happening in Auburn, but I would be suspicious of any council that allows such actions to be done at a single meeting. Robert's Rules of Order has sufficient flexibility to allow for things to get done. Standing rules and special rules can be suspended, but the standing city documents should not be allowed to be suspended. Unfortunately, under a council form of government, the people have no power to make permanent changes.
HUH??
Are you trying to tell me that Brad and Ron are both slinging the same line of BS?? Those two couldn't agree on the day of the week, much less sling the same line of bull. :)
Not really
I hear it from my house and he is just a few hundred yards away.
Obviously
If regular brakes fail, I would expect any truck driver to use whatever means possible to keep safe. Most trucks approach the hill at 50mph and then use the engine brake all of the way down the hill. If a trucker is operating at the posted recommended speed of 20mph, there should be no problem getting down the hill safely.
Engine Brake
The board is restricting the use of engine brakes on a moderately used back road that affects a handful of houses, but certain members refuse to restrict engine brake on Falls Hill which affects over a hundred in-town homes. Restricting the brake would force the trucks to slow down BEFORE the hill and make the area safer. There is no reason for trucks to approach Falls Hill at 50 mph, and then use the engine brake.
The sound from using engine brake on Falls Hill can be heard for a long distance. Both Brad Adley and Ron Theriault have stated that they hear the brakes. based upon the distance they live from Falls Hill (in opposite directions), I would contend that engine brake usage should be curtailed during sleeping hours.
...
It is sort of when I joked with one of our selectmen about his new modular home being in violation of our Charter because it wasn't facing north. Of course, I was joking, these radical right-wing republicans are serious.
Contitutional Law
Has anyone else realized that those who advocate constitutional law, are actually advocating actions that are in violation of the Constitution?
Algonquin Roundtable
I do enjoy witty banter from time to time, and I do tend to dine at the Fortune Cookie Restaurant on Congress Street every Sunday around 6pm, but they don't have a round table, and I have yet to be joined by anyone else on a regular basis. :)
Opening a can of worms....
This only goes to prove that the Republican Party (or as I call them the loose association formerly known as the Republican Party) has no interest in what is best for the nation; they only care about being in charge to assure that they can benefit themselves.
There is no ethics in Washington nor Augusta. The political parties have used the system to limit participation. Both parties are controlled by one or two individuals who have complete control over what happens in our country.
I believe that it is time to oust lobbyists, political parties, and other legalized-organized crime from our government.
Costly
If people would learn to drive slowly when conditions are ripe for freezing, we wouldn't have to call out the sander trucks as often.
Confused
So, to those who disagree, are you saying that public hearings aren't open to public comment??
Hmmm
I agree that a majority of the voting public want wind power, but I believe that there is a split between those who want to regulate it and those who want it to have free reign. Based upon the experiences of other communities, it would seem that an ordinance of some sort is advisable. Although it seems easy to just have a meeting and get it done, the board now has to do the job the committee failed to do, including bringing in experts to discuss reasonable restrictions. They could throw together something in one night, but it wouldn't necessarily be sufficient to assure that the wind towers are managed responsibly.
Facts
The previous ordinance was voted down by the people. We cannot deduce from their vote what their motivation was, but the message was that they did not want THAT ordinance. There is nothing indicating the "will of the people" was anything more than to not use that ordinance. There was not question indicating what the board should or should not do, so anyone who is stating that the board is "going against the will of the people" is off base.
There have been a group of about 30 Rumford residents showing up at these meetings. They have expressed their opinion, but that is no mandate. Our country was built on rule by the people in the polls, not by mob rule. Just because a few choose to be vocal, it does not mean that the board should follow suit.
The board has indicated mixed views on how to proceed. Mr. Buccina has indicated that he wants to start with the failed ordinance proposal, but the remainder seem inclined to start with the template ordinance. After the problems that were experienced passing the General Assistance budget this year, it would be unwise for the board to waste people's time and town money proposing an ordinance that would be essentially the same as the failed proposal.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
Aniel
I don't know if she is a citizen, I presume that she is based upon the fact that she has held public office. However, she spoke during a public hearing, which by definition is open to public comment, not just citizen comment.
Dawson
Dawson has been involved with the gym for some time. I am glad that they finally designated him as manager. :)
Time to strap on the boots
Now that the budget is set, the board can start looking at achieving some important tasks to move our town forward.
moratorium
The board needs to extend the moratorium to give them time to put together a reasonable ordinance (the one that should have been proposed in the first place). The ordinance will put reasonable restrictions on the wind power companies and provide requirements for upkeep and removal of towers when they are no longer in use.
I have checked it out
There is a secondary signal light as a vehicle approaches the island on route 108. The light can be seen from the middle of the bridge. The only way to run a red light, is to speed up when you see the light turn yellow. If you are going the posted 25 mph speed limit, there is ample time and distance for a vehicle to stop.
The irony
The irony in going under speed limit would be if the police pulled me over for impeding traffic. While the officer is busy writing my ticket, the idiot in the truck behind me goes down falls hill, spills, and kills three people.
All bout safety.
It is simple physics, if a vehicle is traveling slower, they have less of a chance of killing you when you apply the brakes for a road hazard. When a vehicle is traveling too close behind me, I slow down. I really don't want to end up dead because of the ignorance of somebody else.
Each of the yellow cab trucks have a number on them. The phone number of the office is on their cab. When you have a problem with one of them (and you will), call the number and report them. Once the dispatcher stops laughing, and tells you there is nothing they can do about it, you can call the police, who will tell you the same thing.
If the police and company cannot stop these menaces from terrorizing the road, what should we do?
Time to take action
For the sake of safety, perhaps we should all go 5mph under the speed limit in town when we have a semi on our tail. Go ahead and disagree if you want, but there used to be a concept called "safety first".
Perhaps Now
Perhaps now authorities will do something about the speeding trucks on Falls Hill. They get a running start on Route 108, run the red light at the bottom of Congress St, and shoot up the hill at 40-50 mph. We are so lucky nobody has been killed. The trucks with the yellow cabs seem to be the worst offenders. :(
Channel 7
Mr. Tibbetts may want to put his video on Channel 7, the local access channel. It will reach a wide audience at no cost.
disagree
You can disagree all you want, that is what the process is right now. You don't have to agree with the process, but that is what it is. Yes, the people approve amounts of money, but do they look at the capital budgets??? I don't think so.
To those who disagree
Every town needs some equipment. What we have in the capital funds is barely enough to replace what is needed. Yes, they can cut back on the fleet, but they need at least a few plow trucks and a bucket loader. Anyone who thinks we can run a town without any equipment is being irrational.
Finance Committee
According to the Town Charter and ordinances the Finance Committee is responsible for all financial planning for the town. They are scheduling meetings with the town departments to discuss their capital plans. The selectmen will have to work within those plans.
I am glad to see that Carlo is getting our town back on track, following the rules.
Any resident interested in serving on the Finance Committee when openings occur, should submit a letter of interest to the Town Moderator through the Town Clerk's office.
Taxes will rise
If we keep cutting the capital funds to keep taxes low, eventually taxes will soar when we need to replace equipment without having saved for it.
oops
I hope nobody finds out about the $150 donation to the food pantry.
Hey!!
It looks like he woke up :)
Sleeping
I guess that the guy who disagrees with everything I say is still sleeping. Somebody go poke him to see if he is still alive. :)
Is he ready to Represent?
Mr. Thacker claims he did not know about the initiated article process, and I take him at his word. However, he being a candidate for State Representative, I would hope that he would be more aware of how our town government works. How can he become an effective leader on the state level without understanding how the lower levels of government operate?
I am not a supporter of career politicians, but there is something to be said for those who "come up through the ranks". If you are interested in representing me on the state level, you had better understand how our town runs. This is easily achieved through participation on a board or committee, then some time on the board of selectman.
If you start out with T-ball, and Little League and Babe Ruth League, you will be a much better player when you try out for the Varsity team. You can understand the basic mechanics from the stands, but you don't learn the strategy.
Hmmm, I thought Mr. Thacker was a Republican. Most Republicans I know don't believe in government hand outs :)
oops
Candice,
I am not sure which meeting you attended, but at the one I attended, Carlo did not say that he expected taxes to rise. What. Politician in their right. Mind would do that? Carlo stated that it all depends upon things like sudden and severe and other. Factors. As they say on MSNBC, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
HUH???
The ad in the Times PROMISED us a tax INCREASE. How are we going to reach 30 mils if we have tax decreases? These "fiscal responsibility" folks expect an increase, so Carlo had better go back and find his error. He must have missed something somewhere. When he was adding the numbers, maybe he sneezed and missed a department or two. Perhaps a mis-placed comma somewhere. How could we possibly have a decrease?? :)
HUH??
How do you disagree with a link to a song??
Song is available to listen
http://www.coast931.com/pages/5953634.php
My oops
If it was a reply to your post, it was intended as a reply to you. I often get you and candiceanne mixed up because you have very similar opinions and writing styles.
Get it done
Candice,
Please let us know when you have the draft of the scientifically high-tech visionary Comprehensive Plan ready for review, and thanks for volunteering the many hours to get it done. Now, that's what I call dedication. :)
Surprise
Oh look, somebody disagreed with me, what a surprise :)
Show me
Frank,
I challenge you to publicly show me where in the Charter, Ordinances, Maine State Law, The Maine Constitution, Federal Law or the IU.S. Constitution there is a distinction between the rights of a citizen and the rights if a tax paying citizen.
Ordinance will cost the town $$$
If you want to spend lots of money on legal fees to defend the most restrictive ordinance in the state, then approve this, But if you would rather see the selectmen come up with a reasonable ordinance for your approval in June, vote this one down.
True ignorance has never been better spoken
First of all, the board in Rumford has yet to bicker this year. Your not knowing that proves that you are not involved in the town, and do not attend meetings.
Secondly, the supporters of the mountain have relied upon the donation from the town for decades instead of doing fundraising. An initiated article is a donation, not an entitlement. Since it costs so much to ski, the donation to Black Mountain has been termed "welfare for the wealthy" for a while now. I understand that BMOM costs less than many other mountains, but a family of four working at Wal-Mart cannot afford to blow an entire weeks pay check to ski for one day. People expect a subsidized entity to be more affordable.
Third, providing the people a ski resort is not a mandatory function of government. The town has no responsibility to find a way to keep a non-profit agency in business. It is mostly the nostalgia of the town that provides you with the ongoing town support. Even some of the people who help establish the mountain are backing away.
Black Mountain has grown too large. The leadership has attempted to make it into a commercial mountain, losing the family feeling that once existed. The egos and arrogance of the leadership will eventually destroy the organization as we know it. Within the next few years, Maine Winter Sports will be forced to take control away from the board and find a different way to protect its investment.
:)
I didn't say "majority of tax paying citizens", nor should I have to. Despite the opinion of some, non-taxpayers have the right to vote too.
Confidence in the people
I was glad to see that the majority of people were not swayed by the giant ad in the Times. The ad didn't address the issues specifically, and gave no department specific rationale for gutting the General Assistance budget.
Yes, times are tight, and our government has to work to find savings where it can, but we must make cuts in a responsible manner. The voters rely upon the board to make recommendations that are responsible, because most voters don't research the impact of such cuts. But it is important for the people to express their opinions at meetings and hearings. There was very little attendance at any of the meetings where this budget was discussed, leading one to believe that the people accepted the budget as it was presented. Our government cannot work for you if you don't let them know what you want. Gutting budgets in the voting booth costs the town more as additional elections have to be held. We can save thousands of dollars if the people attend the budget hearings and express themselves.
Given The Current Political Climate...
I don't blame the Democrats for being leery about participating in a forum hosted by someone who appears to be so well nested in the Republican camp. If the shoe were on the other foot, i would expect the same from the Republicans.
Franchise Fee
The Franchise Fee is a Cable TB related fee that comes directly to the town. They allocate some of it to Channel 7, and blow the remainder into the air as fireworks. Whats left goes to reducing taxes.
Turning..
I don't turn things around, I straighten them out.
See you downtown Frankie :)
Frank
One thing I can say about Frank is that he never holds my opinion against me. Even after reading these comments, he will still greet me on the street. We may discuss the comments, but we are still on a friendly basis.
I like that :)
You have proved my point Frank
Your comments prove that you will not rest until Thelma is unemployed. One has to wonder why you and others are so intent on getting rid of her. She has continually reduced the General Assistance budget over the years, and has done a good job of screening people who don't qualify. It would seem that you just don't like the rules the town must adhere to, so you are blaming her.
Yes, the town found additional work for her. They did this by splitting a full time position in the town clerk's office (I don't believe the other other person sharing the position receives benefits), and having Thelma work in the tax collector's office two days a week. She took a pay cut due to the pay rate for the other positions, but maintains her benefits. And that is the big deal here, isn't it? You want to take away Thelma's benefits. Well, you did nothing to make changes in that department when you were in office, but now that you have joined us on the outside, you yell and scream and accuse those who remained in office of wrongdoing.
This is a witch hunt pure and simple and you should be ashamed of yourself for taking part in it.
As for me, I call it as I see it, and don't you DARE accuse me of being part of any conspiracy. I have no allegiances in town politics except the town charter and the best interest of the town. Everything I have said was accurate. You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts. The delay in approving the General Assistance budget is the sole responsibility of the Concerned Citizens for Fiscal Responsibility for using political games and misinformation to trick the voters into voting against a budget that worked. You know as well as I that most voters rely upon what they read in the newspaper to make decisions on how they vote. They can approve any amount they like, but they will still end up paying tens of thousands of dollars to those who need it as required under state law.
I don't expect you to agree with me. In my experience, you usually make up your mind, and no amount of convincing can change it. Unfortunately, there are a large number of lemmings out there who are easily fooled by your fabricated reality.
:)
you're funny
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Disagree with me all you want, I am speaking the truth. Some people don't want to hear the truth, others don't want to acknowledge it.
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I would respond to your comment if you had remained respectful.
I don't often agree with the devil
The turmoil of the past few years has been both a financial drain on the town and a distraction from the things that need to get done. The current board members do get along and discuss things (often to death), but have difficulty committing to much. They seem timid to act, likely in fear of causing more turmoil. It is a thankless position that doesn't allow any room for mistakes. If they support enforcing the building code, they are attacked by the landlords, if they don't they are attacked by those who want our town cleaned up. Most issues have two sides, and this board seems to be riding the fence on almost every issue.
Carlo has spent most of his time cleaning up from previous Town Managers. He has tied up many loose ends, and worked to coordinate response to the mess caused by the repetitive voting on the General Assistance budget, as well as the other town meeting issues. It will be nice to see what he can achieve once these issues are cleared up. However, I have told both the board and Carlo that you cannot make an omelet without breaking some eggs. The board and Town Manager need to be willing to take a position that is in the best interest of the majority of the citizens after fully looking into an issue. Wishy-washy leadership will not achieve anything.
Back when I was on the board, I stated that we needed to build the tax base to avoid higher taxes. That was over 20 years ago, and not much has been done. N.O.T.E.D.->RVGC has made marginal efforts to promote Rumford. This is primarily because they are a regional organization and partially because the have saddled themselves with the Tech Center. The Chamber of Commerce, on which we rely to promote the area has driven away members due to domineering leadership. I give credit to those who revived it back in the late 1980s, but am saddened at what it has become. It serves it's members, but cannot be relied upon to be the sole source for promoting Rumford.
One reason for the lack of progress, is the lack of vision and planning. We have a Comprehensive Plan that was created and approved by the voters, but it literally sat on a shelf for many years after the primary project the information center (a.k.a. Ron Theriault's house of pee) was completed. I give credit to the Park Commission for finding a way to move ahead with some of the projects, but most everything else fell by the wayside.
Our infrastructure has fallen into disrepair due to special projects. JL fought for the walking trail along the riverbank by the library. I was informed that some of the money for that project came from the sidewalk fund. Look at our downtown sidewalks now. Some of the money to develop the roads for the industrial and business parks came from the roads fund. Meanwhile, we have roads in Swift River park that haven't been re-surfaced since they were built in the 1960s. Yes, the industrial and business parks are important to us, and yes, they have expanded our tax base, but the remainder of the town has been left to suffer. I fully support fund integrity. When money is allocated for a particular use, it should go to that use. If you have a special project, it needs to be approved by the voters, not finagled in a back room deal, shifting funds. I believe that our current board has the capacity to function in this manner, it is just a case of whether or not they have the integrity to do so.
Hmmm
I would be interested to see Jay's budget. I would speculate that this amount does not include the monies paid out, but merely administrative/supplies.
Family
They say it is always good to do things together as a family, unfortunately, there are exceptions.
:)
First 5 Minutes
The selectmen met last night with a full agenda. Unfortunately, the only stories worth writing about came from the first five minutes of the meeting. I have encouraged the town manager and selectmen to develop a plan and goals for moving forward and achieving more to improve our town, but they have not decided to do so. :(
Festival should be at the falls
Eddie Shurtleff held the Pennacook Valley Festival at Hosmer Field for a number of years. There were constant complaints from the few people who attended. The fireworks are much more beautiful over the water, and much better attended. Why are we taking a step backwards?
HA!
The "disagree" above only proves that some people will disagree with me regardless of what I say. The requirement that non-residents (non-member of the assembly) obtain approval to speak is not only part of Roberts Rules of Order, but also the way our town has been handling the issue since town meetings began. You may disagree with the policy, but the procedure is well established.
no
not at all
Sad
It is sad that you feel so threatened by CandiceAnne's comments that you need to resort to personal attacks. Nobody deserves to be dubbed the village idiot. It is rude and insensitive.
Actually...
I spent many hours this summer reading and understanding the 740+ page book Roberts Rules of Order. I also have a good comprehension of the Rumford Town Charter and the applicable Ordinances. At town meeting, I have all of these documents for reference if needed, as well as the competent guidance of our Town Attorney. At the last meeting, the only correction made to me personally is when I misread a date.
As they say on MSNBC; You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
from not form
Sorry, that was a typo. Non-residents wishing to speak require permission of the voters present.
clarification
Carlo Puiia had a copy of my suggestion at least a week before the meeting. The proposal that they approved was brought up at the last minute.
Use the Planning Board
Why didn't we think of that??
Glad I Live In Rumford
I am glad that I live in Rumford where the board gets along with each other, and the town manager is up-front with both the board and the citizens. It has been my pleasure to be involved with my town government over the past few months.
Unlike Lisbon, our town runs under a charter and selectmen-town manager plan which permits the people to be involved and have significant input as to how the town runs. Since the turmoil of the past, our town has become politically aware, and now people attend the meetings as a matter of interest, not just to throw stones or watch the circus. I believe that the people of our town feel empowered to be active participants in our government, as opposed to those who have to bang at the drawbridge of their government in under a town council.
When you give up your selectmen, you give away the authority of the people. You rely upon seven people to make all decisions for the town without any significant accountability, except for their reelection. In a selectmen form of government, the people have the authority to take action to correct errors without the consent of the elected leaders. I enjoy our democracy and am quite happy we never resorted to an autocratic form of government.
no reason for "duh"
In what word do selectmen and Town Managers have knowledge on how voting machines are programmed? I asked the question because it was relevant to the discussion, but it was not expected that anyone would have the answer. These questions need to be asked of those who work for the state who are familiar with these machines. The town is scheduled to get new voting machines soon, they haven't even been bought yet. How is anyone to know what functions exist on a piece of machinery that hasn't even been bought?
Charter
The rules for changing the Charter are addressed by state law. However, under home rule, our Charter allows for the board to call for a special town meeting to address many issues, including charter changes. I refer you to the "critical circumstance" reference used in re-addressing the Black Mountain issue.
Wet Diaper Movement
Are we going to let Hollywood Slots wet diaper movement sway us to what they want? Of course there needs to be limitations on competition, if not, a casino could open in a nearby community. Common sense is essential here folks. Anything that is said by this anti-casino group is worthless because they work for the competition. Let the people decide without the politics.
when?
When did they become an elected board? The Selectmen appointed 4 new members this year.
Just Stating
I make all kinds of recommendations as a citizen. There were other recommendations submitted ahead of time (as was mine) that they chose not to address as well. My point is that the secret ballot method took away the power of the people to change the amount. Now we are looking at possibly eliminating the Finance Committee. What's next, making the Select Board into a city council with almost omnipotent power?? I don't think so!
YOU ARE WRONG!
I was there last night when they decided in 10 minutes how they wanted the charter amended. Yes, they still have to vote on it officially, but that is just a formality. The only other citizen there was Roger Arsenault, so unless you are him, or one of the members of the press, you can't go around calling me wrong.
By the people
I submitted a suggestion where the two amounts are sent to Town Meeting where the people decide which one goes on the ballot. It was not brought up until they had all agreed on the "Reconciliation Plan". It would seem that they don't want the people meddling in their business.
Nothing wrong with having a charter
Having a charter allows us to have local control over many things. Mr. Buccina has stated for years that he did not support the charter. It is not just this incident that has brought out these feelings. Every time he mentions the charter, he states that it is too old and poorly written. Well, yes it is old, but most of the items that cause problems were inserted within the past few years. The problem is not that the charter is old, it is that the amendments that have been made were either not thought out fully, or drafted by people who were trying to achieve an ulterior motive.
Our nation's Constitution is even older than the Town Charter, as is our state constitution, but i don't hear calls to have them eliminated. They are all there to give the citizens the right to direct how our nation/state/towns operate. There are couple of things that need to be fixed in our charter, but let's not throw it out just because it does its job in regulating how our town functions. If the charter is getting in the way of what you want to do, perhaps you should consider if you should be doing it in the first place.
In the meantime, it is essential that any potential changes to the charter be thought through carefully, and not hastily made. Take time to consider all possible alternatives rather than rushing through one idea. The process of drafting a constitutional amendment takes months, but the process of drafting a charter change takes minutes. Then some wonder why we end up having problems.
Rumford
Wednesday
Rumford Selectmen: 6pm: Special meeting/workshops to discuss an alternate wind power ordinance, approve the Black Mountain/General Assistance Ordinance, and discuss a charter amendment to change the way financial items are presented to voters.
Proof
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ZPwpAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3mUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1...
Lay odds
Regardless of the circumstances, the police are never found in the wrong in Maine when it comes to this type of situation.
Protect
I agree that the townspeople need to be protected from harm, but where it is the townspeople (as the legislative body) who make the rules, I would be curious as to whether or not they could sue the town for not passing a strict enough ordinance.
Brake Failure
The woman has stated that her brakes failed.
No wind ordinance legal cost risk
Despite the comments by one prominent former town leader, the risk to the town of significant legal costs for approving an ordinance that is too restrictive is a reality. Resources informed me yesterday that the Dixmont ordinance is facing a legal challenge. As stated in the meeting, there is no way to determine if a judge would impose a financial penalty against the town, but it is certain that the legal costs would be significant.
Back when I was on the Rumford Board of Selectmen, the budget for the town attorney was half of what it is today. I understand that rates increase, but the major factor in the doubling of this budget is the number of issues that require legal advice and/or action. This year, the voters approved $28,000 for the town attorney. That is more than many Rumford Residents earn.
Let's be smart and make sure that whatever is put before the voters won't end up costing us more down the road. If this ordinance meets that test, so be it.
Please note that I am neither pro-wind nor anti-wind, but I am concerned for the fiscal well-being of our town.
wow
She was driving fast enough to lift the rear end of a 20,000 pound truck into the air and bend its steel bumper? It would be interesting to find out exactly what speed she was doing. Is there a physicist in the house?
I guess that I too would be visibly shaken if I totaled my vehicle with no insurance. Strange that she wasn't shaken enough at the concept of rear-ending a 20,000 piece if steel to stop at the scene of the crime. Somebody is going to need to get an additional job to pay for the damages. :(
Hangover
We had fun with the "hangover" comment. I asked if Adley's Lemonade was now being offered as "hard lemonade". :)
Thanks for the money??
It is my understanding that BMOM operates the mountain at a loss most years. I don't see where Maine Winter Sports receives any money from the mountain. I understand Maine Winter Sports to be a non-profit agency that coordinates the development of skiing related projects. The Libra Foundation provides money for capital projects, not for operations. Those funds are the sole responsibility of the local committee who manage the mountain.
In their defense
The amount that BMOM has received over the years has gone down. They have had to become more and more independent of town funds over the years. They have been fortunate to have the participation of the Libra Foundation. Where would they be with a non-compliant lodge without the private funding?
Except
As we have learned by this process, anything can be done at anytime if it is declared a critical circumstance related to town affairs 0or the welfare of its citizens.
Tired
It seems that the board is becoming tired of addressing both issues and just wants to do whatever has to be done to get it over with. The Superior Court Justice ruled that the town must hold a vote on BMOM, based upon the Town Charter. From what was said at the Saturday meeting, it seems that some, of not all board members present are expecting the Finance Committee to rubber stamp the $51,000 request to avoid another three way vote. However, if the Finance Committee chooses, they can also avoid a three way vote by recommending $0. There will still be three options on the ballot, but two will be for the same amount, so there will be no question on the validity of combining the votes from the two amounts. The reason there will still be three choices, is because the Charter, as written, requires it.
I disagree with Mr. Puiia that the problem is old legislation meeting new legislation, it is a problem of poorly written legislation. It is harder to change the Town Charter than it is an Bylaw, so it would seem that somebody decided to make the changes in the Bylaws to avoid having to go through the Charter change process. Much of this should have been caught by previous boards and previous Town Attorneys. When the Bylaws were renamed to Ordinances, the top 10 chapters should have been moved to the Charter, since they pertain to the operation of the government, and not Ordinances. There have been many failures in the tweaking of these documents, and a Charter Commission can fix them.
Personal attacks
... and you are calling into question MY maturity?? I have done nothing in this discussion but address the issue. Some people don't have the maturity to discuss things reasonably, much less be accountable for their comments. When you decide to be respectful I may respond to what you have to say. I have no use for playing in your sandbox.
Charter
Unfortunately for your viewpoint, our Charter, which was approved by the voters, requires the town attorney to live in Rumford.
Hmmm...
It would seem by your comments that you really don't know me very well. I am not affiliated with Mr. Theriault, nor Ms. Stowell-Norris. Yes, I communicate with them from time to time, but I communicate with many people throughout the community on a regular basis. I would appreciate the opportunity to sit down and talk with you sometime.
It seems to me that there are some people who don't support Mr. Puiia, and just like in national politics, those who don't support a particular public figure fail to allow that person to be human and make mistakes. If you don't support Mr. Puiia as Town Manager, or Mr. Carey as Town Attorney, that is your right, but please remember that both are human, and have the ability to make mistakes. Being as close to the process as I am, I can tell you that this was a bona-fide mistake.
As I said...
The election procedures are in the Charter, and the Finance Committee duties are in the Ordinances. They were following the procedure in the Charter, and didn't realize that the Ordinance had an affect on the process. We already had one vote on the General Assistance ("welfare") budget without the review, proving that I too missed the requirement previously.
Tom Carey is not involved in the process unless the Town Manager asks for a legal opinion. Each legal opinion costs money, so they are not sought unless a question arises. Based upon what was in the Charter, there was no question until I stumbled upon the provision in the Ordinance. The lesson has been learned, and the proper procedure is going to be followed.
Unfortunately, we no longer have Eugene Boivin monitoring Charter compliance. Being more familiar with the Charter and Ordinances than many people, I have offered to review such procedures in the future upon request.
Oversight
This was a simple oversight. Regardless of qualifications, it is easy to overlook a single sentence in an ordinance that doesn't even pertain to town meetings. I found it while looking up something else. It is listed in the ordinances under Finance Committee. The town meeting provisions are found in the Town Charter under their own heading.
How Much?
On my cable TV bill, there is a separate line for the franchise fee. It states that I pay $1.81 per month ($21.72/year). This money is passed to the town as a fee, just like the snowmobile registration fees. It is not tax revenue, and should not be designated for "projects"' Where it comes from cable TV fees, it should be used to benefit the cable TV subscribers. Designating two thirds for channel 7 is a good start. As for the fireworks, I cannot support the money being used for this purpose. Why should only some of the citizens pay for them and others get them without paying? If you use these funds, cable subscribers pay $21.72 each while satellite subscribers and those without either service don't have to pay. You don't see the board trying to reallocate snowmobile funds for fireworks, do you?? Both the snowmobile club and channel 7 provide a valuable service to the community. Both serve a portion of the community, while others in the community do not have access to their services. It is equitable to use the funds from those users to support services for those users.
Supporting our Troops
Supporting our troops is not the same as supporting their mission. I personally support the safe return of each and every serviceman and woman. I don't agree with their mission, but we have entrusted our government to make those decisions. This is not a partisan effort. The Iraq war was started by President Bush, even though it was inherited by President Obama. Both have done what the felt was necessary to keep our country safe. I don't have to agree, but that doesn't mean that I don't support our troops.
Looks like Rumford residents
Looks like Rumford residents can enjoy a beach this year. :)
The best way for us to honor
The best way for us to honor the lives of those who perished on 9/11 is for the citizens to support the Constitution that so many have given their lives to preserve. This includes asserting the rights of every individual to worship as they believe. We cannot allow fear and stereotypes erode the basic tenants of our country's guiding document. When we change what we believe in response to the actions of others, they have won.
Repeat
Why does the SJ publish articles such as this as well as a police log and Rumford Crime Bulletin that all state the same information?? Are they that desperate for content in their newspaper??
Belanger has a right
Selectman Belanger has a right to act as a citizen in signing the injunction. You don't lose your rights when you are elected to public office.
Ed, Black Mountain is a
Ed,
Black Mountain is a private enterprise, but it is not a for-profit business. In order to qualify for town funding under initiated articles, an entity must be non-profit. They claim that the $51,000 is needed to keep the mountain open, but if I recall properly, it faced closure at least once before and was saved by affiliating with a parent organization. I really believe that the mountain can be run at a profit under the correct leadership.
As for the General Assistance budget, what you as a taxpayer see as reasonable may not be feasible. If you read the breakdown for the budget, it doesn't include any allocation for office supplies. All that is funded by the budget is a person to work two days a week, and the funds to provide assistance. There is no allocation for anything else. Also, the town will find that the two days a week will be insufficient, and the board will likely have to extend the amount of time the General Assistance Administrator is working in that department. The staffing changes are already being enacted, and the town manager's office is beginning to cover part of the workload of the General Assistance Administrator. This is not accounted for in the town manager's budget, and becomes a hidden cost to the town. That being said, I hope everyone votes to approve this budget, because it can't be cut any more without additional hidden costs being created. When the Town Manager ends up hiring a second secretary, you will know why.
Each year the board decides
Each year the board decides how much to give to channel 7. Their decision is only for that year. In order to establish a set amount, the citizens would have to approve it.
Roads, we don't need no roads
I saw on TV tonight that some towns are tearing up their roads because dirt roads are cheaper to maintain. With all of the 4WD trucks on the road, it would be interesting to see what would happen in Maine if we reverted to dirt roads. It would be much easier to fill a pothole!!
I reserve the right to revise and extend my comments
I heard him say 66% of the fees for fireworks. Perhaps he is using his "revising" his comments as they do in Washington when they get caught saying something wrong.
hmmm....
If I had your perspective on things, I would not support snowmobiling, skiing, social services, or high school football because I don't spend time doing them. Many people enjoy the programming on channel 7. Just because you don't, it doesn't mean it is worthless.
good ideas
Many of your ideas have been a part of previous celebrations, they just weren't promoted well enough.
They
By "they", I mean the Rumford Selectmen. Channel 7 barely skims by with the budget they have.
Franchise Fees
It is so nice of each cable TV subscriber to pay an additional 1.20 per month to pay for our fireworks. It seems that the town doesn't want to spend tax money on the celebration, but they are willing to raid the pockets of the cable subscribers. Hopefully, Channel 7 will be able to continue to operate on a reduced budget, and let's hope they don't ever have to replace any of their equipment, because that is what that fee is used to fund. At least they won't have a slush fund to play with anymore.
Convenient Tool :)
See, now when your defiant teen refuses to stay at home, you can call the police to bring them home. Of course, raising them to be respectful of others and their property helps too.
Lesson to learn
Rumford voters and leaders have a lesson to learn. They refuse to listen to those who say the stove is hot, and when they place their hand on the burner, they will get burned. I appreciate Mexico's patience in letting Rumford learn the hard way.
The proposed budget won't work, but we must pass it. Yes, it cuts personnel hours, but in doing so it reduces the effectiveness of the department. It will most likely result in MORE being paid out and less being recovered through reimbursement. It also is likely to interfere with the Town Clerk's office, because she is the only other person who is trained to administer the General Assistance funds. When the office is closed, she will be called upon to handle those who show up with an emergency need.
Hurray Diamond!!
I hope the boy has a full recovery.
Voter Approved
The strange voting procedure and wacky charter were voted in by the citizens. The board is required to follow those procedures until the people change them.
Terry
Terry happens to be the author of the article. However, Mr. Karkos rarely opines on issues to maintain objectivity.
Sorry Frank
As one of those who makes sure the rules are followed, I have to agree with LisbonRes. Some people think that the town can make their own rules (formerly or informally), but they can't.
Let's all violate the law
"The ordinance, he said would institute a 90-day residency in Rumford before people could seek general assistance."
Sorry, you can't, it's illegal.
Character Traits
Identifying character traits and past actions is not an attack.
process
I am surprised that you would accuse me of not being informed on the proper process. Unlike many who state opinions, I have actually read the Charter and refer to it regularly when issues arise. I disagree with Mr. Carey's opinion on this matter. The Article reads quite clearly that special town meetings (elections) are to be called only for matters that pertain to town affairs or the welfare of it's citizens. This does not qualify as such under any stretch of the law. If the existing entity cannot operate the mountain, it will be sold to someone who can.
My comments regarding Mr. Arsenault were not an attack. They were facts, and comments based upon those facts. If I really wanted to attack Mr. Arsenault, I have sufficient information to really hit him hard. But that is not my style. It is funny how some people do attack personalities when votes don't go the way they would like them to.
It is my understanding that there are efforts to block the BMOM vote through legal action in the courts. It will be interesting to see if a judge provides as liberal of an interpretation as Mr. Carey. I am not involved with that effort and choose to remain unaffiliated with it.
If the vote is reconsidered, it can't be a simple up-down vote. It must be worded the same way with the same options. In my earlier comment I stated that I would vote NO, but I would correct that by stating I will vote zero.
I believe that the BMOM request for $1,000 for a private fireworks show in a year that our town didn't have a public celebration, has caused some to be less supportive of the mountain. Yes, you do bring in events, but due to our area's lack of lodging, most racers stay in Farmington or Bethel, and only eat their lunch in Rumford ( presumably at the mountain). When there are events in town I see no major influx of shoppers at the grocery store, nor diners at the3 local restaurants. I do agree that our economy will be more greatly affected if we get a large motel with at least 80 rooms.
HA!!
CA,
Community Energy wouldn't even donate $5.00 to the Stephens High School Alumni Association when they were selling engraved bricks for the walkway to the monument. What makes you think that one of the wealthiest men in town is going to donate any substantial amount of money to Black Mountain? Like he said when asked for the $5.00 brick donation "what do I get out of it??". I believe his fingerprint is obstructed by the picture of President Lincoln.
No due to process
I will be voting NO on the Black Mountain request if it shows up on a ballot. I support the efforts of Black Mountain, and even voted in favor funding them this past June. However, the process they are using is not intended to be twisted to provide a back door for initiated article appeals. THIS IS WRONG AND SHOULD BE VOTED DOWN to avoid setting precedent for other agencies to abuse the process to get money from the town.
I really do not see why the mountain would have to shut down. Surely, they could find savings somewhere, and perhaps a mailing asking for donations from supporters would help them get past this speed bump.
Just ignore the rules??
Our country was founded based upon principles. We have a Constitution for a reason. The people of Rumford have adopted a Charter which sets procedures for this situation. The Selectmen cannot just ignore the Charter. Doing so has put our town on the front page of this newspaper many times in the past. Yes, the procedure needs to be fixed, but there is currently no process to reconsider donations to private non-profit agencies. I see lots of effort to circumnavigate the rules, but I see no efforts by the supporters of Black Mountain to attempt to raise the funds on their own.
Even if the article is reconsidered, it would have to be done using the exact same process, with the exact same question as was asked originally. This would likely generate a similar ratio of votes.
State Law
3. Durational residency requirement prohibited. No municipality may establish a durational residency requirement for general assistance.
Voting system
The people voted to use this system, but bow that it is working the way it was designed, they are opposed to it. I would caution people to watch what they ask for, because they might just get it.
Special Town Meeting
Special town meetings shall be called by the Board of Selectmen to fill vacancies in elective offices as provided in Article XX of this charter, and for no other purpose unless in the opinion of the majority of the board an exigent circumstance exists relating to town affairs or the welfare of its citizens is deemed to be presented and which requires prompt action by the voters in special meeting.
Clarification
Jake,
I was paraphrasing the legal opinion of Attorney Carey as it was explained to me. I disagree with his opinion wholeheartedly. I have nothing against BMOM, and I am not supporting the blind cut-cut-cut effort that some do. I am merely looking at the procedure and making an assessment based upon the rules. The article in question addresses issues relating to town business and the welfare if Rumford citizens. It can hardly be argued that an initiated article is town business, and skiing, while beneficial to well-being is not essential to the welfare of Rumford citizens. I have asked Carlo to seek another legal opinion, but he has yet to inform me that one has been sought.
I am sorry if my choice of words lead you to believe that BMOM was in compliance with the Charter in my assessment.
Dangerous Precedent
Mr. Carey has issued an opinion stating that BMOM can request the Selectmen hold a special town meeting. The Charter states that such meetings need to be relating to town affairs or the welfare of its citizens. If BMOM is denied the town meeting, they must get about 500 signatures on a petition to force a town meeting. I am unsure if the selectmen can block such a meeting if called by petition. It may be possible, if someone feels strongly enough, for a citizen to appeal the decision to superior court.
It is a dangerous precedent to set. If we are willing to bend the laws for BMOM, then why shouldn't every entity who is denied an initiated article request a special town meeting and load the polls with their supporters?? I though we changed the way we vote to avoid this problem.
Ed...
I meant her wages are part of her budget, not an additional cost.
Ed...
You don't add the cost of her salary to the budget, you subtract it from her budget. Please remember that the state reimburses 1/2 of the welfare costs to the town as well as some of the administrative costs. the actual cost to the taxpayer is much less.
Looking for the benefit
I am still on the fence regarding wind power. I am open to the idea, as long as the impact on our community and citizens is minimal. However, I am not seeing a benefit to the town in this proposal a this time. They want to come to town, promising to raise our valuation by $65,000,000 which will increase our share of the school budget and perhaps other formulas. It will adversely affect the benefit the "sudden and severe" status we have with the state, which has cushioned the blow from the valuation drop this past year. The TIF will remove much of the tax revenue from the project. And, when the TIF expires, the life and valuation of the towers will be gone. There is no mention of lower electricity costs, nor plans to decommission the towers. The only benefit I can see at this point is the $50,000 in community contributions, which would likely get directed to Black Mountain. I truly want to see the benefit in this project beyond the $50,000, and I would like to see an financial impact analysis before having to vote on this issue.
I watch Countdown with Keith
I watch Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. it is funny to see him disprove almost every point made on FixedNews with actual quotes and facts, especially when the quotes come from the person being disproved. The Glenn Beck program, for example, is not even news, but pure opinion. Everyone who disagrees with Mr. Beck is considered to be a Nazi. If I were a Nazi, I would be offended by Mr. Beck's free use of the association.
Blank??
When I pull up this article it is blank. I cannot imagine that the Editorial Board was left speechless. :)
Happy Retirement CC
CC has spent many years caring for others, now she will have time to enjoy some time for herself. :)
Ironic
The cost of having a second election to approve a new budget for General Assistance is equal to almost half of the supposed savings that the town will get through the budget cut.
What was sad about the meeting, is that some of the board members who had been in office the longest appeared to know the least about how the General Assistance budget works.
Spin it as you will
The social agencies have ample public locations to use to provide their services in the valley. The Conference room and auditorium at the Municipal Building remain unused much of the day. There is meeting space at the technology center that remains underused, and as you stated, some agencies have offices right in town. Between Western Maine Transportation, Community Concepts and our area taxi services, there is no reason for anyone to lack transportation.
As for cultural venues, yes the concert association folded, but the Performing Arts Committee has planned shows in the Rumford Falls Auditorium. The art gallery has not closed, it moved to the technology center where sales have increased due to it being a better location.
Any jobs that may have been created from the movement/expansion of the library would be minimal. Typically, the bid would go to an entity who either has an existing crew of experienced laborers or a general contractor who hires sub contractors. The sub contractors are usually people with whom the general contractor has worked in the the past, few of whom tend to come from Rumford. The supplies may come from area businesses, but more likely from a larger company who can afford to provide them at lower prices.
Growth Committee Limitations
The selectmen were only approached about applying for the grant to move and expand on the library. They were not asked to apply for the grant to expand on site. The night that Mr. Aromaa made his request, I asked if he would make the request for expand on site, and he told me he couldn't because the growth committee (an advisory group with no authority whatsoever) only authorized him to request for the move and expand option. Had he asked for the expand on site authorization that night, I would lay odds that he would have received authorization.
The SSA utilization of that space was supposed to be for a kiosk, not a meeting space nor service center. The library made a decision to accept the SSA into their building, and now cry that they have no room. You have to live with the consequences of the decisions you make.
Ballot Procedures
The reason that the election results were delayed, is due to the fact that the election clerks and wardens had start from scratch. When the post-it note jam occurred, they had to reset the machine. This lost the data for the ballots that had been counted through that machine. Rather than make a mistake on which ballots had or had not been counted. the Election Warden decided start over. The machines were reset and every ballot was re-entered.
An issue was raised over the unsecured ballot box during the election. Mr. Puiia had brought over the old metal ballot box from the town office, but the decision was made to continue using the tote. I can only speculate that this was due to the fact that the opening on the secured metal ballot box was slightly smaller than the ballots and could have caused damage to the ballots. I observed the operations at various times during the day, and never saw the tote unsupervised. In my opinion, though it was not locked, it might as well have been.
Aside from the unsecured ballot box, the only concern I heard was that the jam may have thrown off the calibration of the machine. Not being a voting machine tech, I cannot speak to this issue, but I have been informed that any recount for the Selectman race will be done by hand count.
The Rumford Library served
The Rumford Library served the town well when we had twice as many people as we do today. The utilization of space needs to be re-evaluated. With the inter-library loan program, the Internet, and other public venues for meetings and cultural events in town, there is no need for the library to expand. I am disappointed that the people didn't recommend an extension, but we have to work within the financial means of the taxpayers. The grant money that was available was not guaranteed, and could have been as little as 1/3 of the total cost. I guess the people didn't want to pay the other 2/3.
Recount
Mr. Puiia and Ms. Giasson have been consulting with Maine Municipal Association. Any recount, once properly requested with appropriate deposit, will be scheduled and handled within the bounds of the law.
I thought that Candice Casey
I thought that Candice Casey was fed up with this town and high tailing it out of here when her self designated "year" is up.
HUH???
When she was in office, you referred to the town government as Tammany Hall, now you support her return??? I don't understand.
Amen to that
The best thing we can do to keep our town moving forward is to not move backwards.
I commended the current board for bringing peace and pride to our town government. Depending upon your viewpoint, you may feel that some should be voted out. If so, please don't replace any of them with someone who most assuredly will move our town back to where it was three years ago. We cannot afford it.
Old tyme radio joke
What are those things on your feet?
The are called shoes
Why are they called shoos, are you ashamed of your feet?
Do you respect yourself?
If you respect yourself so much, why don't you respect the beauty of your body? Our bodies are awesome. Take time to think of how complex the systems are. Our skin alone is amazing. Take time to admire this creation, and realize that there are but two types on this earth. Some are taller, some are shorter, some are thin, some are heavy, but the all have the same parts in the same places.
I don't understand why society teaches us to be so timid about our bodies. There is no "perfect" body, so people should not be ashamed of theirs. Some people have surgery to enhance their bodies, others for health reasons. Surgery scars are nothing to be ashamed of, they are a part of life.
If our world would learn to accept the differences between us, what wars would we have? If we cannot accept the slight differences in our personal beings, how can we accept other differences?
(That's right, I am saying that having a positive body image of oneself and others contributes to world peace)
Who Do You Listen To?
I don't trust information from other sources. I go by what I hear or learn from direct inquiry. When people who were not at a meeting I attended attempt to argue a point based upon whet they read in the paper, I feel sorry for them. Terry is a nice man, and has worked hard to remain objective as a reporter, but somewhere between his submission and the print edition certain stories become slanted. It is hard to sell newspapers when there is nothing going on, and the press has the power to stir things up a bit.
It will be interesting to see how the Rumford election is covered now that Jolene Lovejoy has entered the race. She seemed to have someone at the SJ in her back pocket during the turmoil that characterized her last year in office. I will say that she has a lot of gall running again. She was lucky that she didn't spend time in jail for the actions she took when on the board.
Moving The library
According to the information presented at the meetings, the relocation grant would be for UP TO one million dollars, there would be a million dollars through fundraising, and the town would be responsible for the rest of the $3+ million dollar. In the process, the building may sustain damage while being moved, including, but not limited to collapse. There is a new slate roof on the building, which would likley sustain damage in the process. Research on Carnegie libraries show that they were intentionally place overlooking rivers.
The expansion would be $2.1 million, of which the grant would pay 1/3, and you still could fundraise a million, leaving the town to pay a much less amount ($400,000).
Bringing the building to code would cost $854,000 of which the grant may pay 1/3 (although it has never been stated), but if we have the capability to raise a million dollars through fundraising, then we wouldn't need the grant, nor to burden the taxpayers with higher taxes. I am told that the town has been offered a replacement furnace for the building, but has not yet taken advantage of the offer.
All of these decisions are moot at this point because the Library Trustees have not expressed an opinion as to what action should be taken, if any. The Library Griwth Committee is an advisory group that should be reporting to the Trustees, not the Board of Selectmen. They have no authority to request any action be taken, much less the authority to make decisions. Once the citizens have expressed their opinion in the voting box, the Selectmen likely work with the Library Trustees to take action as resources become available.
"nor would they do that in a
"nor would they do that in a major city"
Didn't a similar protest happen in Portland earlier this year?? Also, there are fully nude protests occurring in major cities throughout the country on an annual basis.
Mr. Mackin's comments appear to be based upon ignorance and unsubstantiated statements. The bible reference is an except taken and interpreted by him to support his position. In full context, the story of Adam and Eve does not even refer to lust in any version of the bible I have read. And besides, lust is a sin on behalf of the person doing the lusting, not the person being lusted. In some cultures, lust is triggered by the sight of unclothed arms, or even faces. Where do we set the limit? Shall we mandate burquas?
The last time I checked, our country was not run by the church. There is a reason for this. Legislatures cannot mandate morality. Their job is to keep us safe from harm.
Check YOUR sources
Well armymom, Town Manager Carlo Puiia informed the board at the meeting tonight that the Library Growth Committee has decided to remove it from the table. Either Mr. Puiia is a liar, or you have your information wrong.
Fact of the matter is that none of these proposals should even be heard until they are voted upon by the library trustees. The Library Growth Committee has no standing on the issue, and has no right to bring proposals to the board. Only the Library Trustees have that authority, and they have not been officially addressed.
It is my understanding that
It is my understanding that moving/building a new library is now "off the table" as an option. The efforts are now to renovate and expand the existing structure in place.
Rita is one of the nicest,
Rita is one of the nicest, caring teachers I know. I wish her and Karl well.
Consequences
If my 12-year-old had such disrespect for others property, I would have to look in the mirror. In a town that has very little crime, it is a shame that the highest profile criminals are so little.
It is lovely weather for a
It is lovely weather for a stroll down Main Street. It should be quite a sight, the participants topfree, and the spectators in winter coats.
Those darned lazy fish! :)
Those darned lazy fish! :)
DiConzo is conservative.
DiConzo is conservative. Don't you remember the scolding he gave the board when he returned from his surgery??
DWilson, Please re-read my
DWilson,
Please re-read my comment. I never said they don't pay rent. I said "The last time I checked, welfare did not assist homeowners. You cannot pay your mortgage, sewer bill, water bill, or homeowners insurance with welfare." I am confused by your attack, as I am on the same side of the issue as you.
If you watch any of the meetings (or ask anyone who has), you will find out that I am one of the few who attends selectmen meetings and raises concerns over spending. I asked the board to tell us where they thought the town stands, and what needs to be done to meet the needs of the people. Selectman Adley stated that he felt everything is going well, and the board needed to just assure that services (and the budget) were maintained at the current level. Selectman Sterling echoed most of the same comments. In a discussion with Mr. Adley, I expressed concern for the elderly who may be sacrificing their nutrition and medication to keep their home. Mr. Adley stated that he didn't buy it. It would seem that the lady in this article doesn't exist in the opinion of Mr. Adley. Mr. Sterling stated in a meeting that he believes retired persons should be able to support services at the same level as when they were working. Luckily, we have two conservative members of the board. Selectmen DiConzo and Belanger have advocated for cuts, but being in a minority of the board, their comments have no effect.
At this point, I believe Mr. Sterling is being opposed by Paul Lowell for the 2 year term. I don't know Mr. Lowell that well, but based upon his comments at the meetings, I would be inclined to support him rather than his opponent. The 3 year term race will be more complex. It looks like the candidates will be Mr Adley, Jeremy Volkernick, Eric Giroux, Mr. DiConzo and Former Selectman Frank Anastatio. Based upon that slate, I would be inclined to support Mr. DiConzo and Mr. Anastatio. As for the budget, I say vote it down and send it back to the board. They need to know that the people are not going to accept a 4 mil increase without a fight.
FYI I work for a number of companies, and pay what the IRS tells me to pay. No, I don't currently own property in Rumford, but that is not a requirement.
The last time I checked,
The last time I checked, welfare did not assist homeowners. You cannot pay your mortgage, sewer bill, water bill, or homeowners insurance with welfare.
Rocks and Trash
Nancy1,
The "rocks and trash" reference is one of those "don't go there" topics. Like myself, Ed "went there". How do you think these self-righteous religious people are going to react? If you look at how they and other extremist groups are behaving nationwide, it is not difficult to expect the same type of behavior on Friday. Let's hope they remain peaceful and remember to Love Thy Neighbor.
Graduation
High school graduation is one of the proudest moments of a young person's life. It is recognition for their efforts over their 12 years of effort. This proud moment is something that can easily be taken away by alcohol. Students who are caught drinking are the lucky ones. They may face charges and be excluded from marching down the isle, but at least they get to see that special day.Many teens believe that they are too smart to get caught drinking, They also believe that they can drive while intoxicated. Unfortunately, some find out the difference the hard way. My wish is that all of our area teens will be walking down the isle this year, my fear is that some will not.
prude
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Rumford Library
I have visited the library. I have attended meetings there. My daughter and I both have library cards. When I had computer problems, I have used the computers. As I see it, they provide a great service to the community. However, in this economy I do not support any effort to expend millions of dollars to move it nor build a new building. I would support a long term goal of building an addition if the library could make a case for it. I fully support the use of funds to maintain the existing building and remedy any code violations.
I resent your implication that I would express such a strong opinion without having visited the building. When the building issue was brought up in the past, I took the tour through the building to see the problems that existed. I also saw both sets of plans; the expansion, and the new building. Somehow the expansion plans disappeared, and now the Growth Committee refuses to accept any option other than that which they proposed.
Truth be told, the Growth Committee is only an advisory group that should bring their recommendation to the Board of Trustees for a decision. Their circumventing of the trustees is way out of line, and only fuels the opposition they face. Rumford people don't want to be told how to spend their money by people from other towns. If those people want a new library so bad, have them propose it in their small towns. I would love to see the reaction.
Ignoring the poor
When a governmental official advocates for a tax increase in a economy where unemployment soars, they are setting the stage for those who are hanging on by a thread to lose their homes. This is irresponsible government. Our government has to operate within the means of those who pay the bill.
There are some who guage decisions on their personal fiscal comfort, disregarding those who live on an income that is less than their own. I am not attacking any of the people I mentioned. I am attacking their decision to ignore a large portion of their constituency.
The push for a new library,
The push for a new library, or to move and expand our current library comes from a small group of people who can afford higher taxes. They are disregarding the citizens who are just barely able to pay their taxes. Our population has dropped, and continues to do so. The mill valuation has dropped, and will likely also continue to do so. Selectman Adley indicated to me that he does not believe that poor people exist. Selectman Sterling stated in a meeting that retired people should be able to continue to pay for services despite their change in income. It is this attitude that will eventually cause a battle between the haves and the have-nots. Wew see it everywhere, not just Rumford. Dick Gleason is ignoring the poor in the city he serves as well. Unfortunately for them, there are many more poor than there are wealthy. Those who act as kings should expect to be de-throned.
Did the sight of a topless
Did the sight of a topless woman cause your son any trauma?? My guess is "no".
That is your opinion. I am
That is your opinion.
I am not offended by the human body in any state of dress or undress. In Vermont, complete nudity is acceptable in many places. I respect your right to your opinion, but do not force your value system on me.
So, it is okay from birth to
So, it is okay from birth to (what age?), but not again until (what age?). It is sexualized because people like you reinforce the sexuality. I refer you to the comments I made previously.
Natalie, I too value the
Natalie,
I too value the programs that exist at the library. However, due to a recent drop in the valuation of the mill and power plant, taxes for our residents have risen significantly. That along with an unstable local economy due to mill layoffs, has caused many to be cautious about capital spending. The grant is a fabulous opportunity for the town, but it comes at a time when the additional two million dollars required to complete the project would be too much of a burden on those who pay taxes.
You are not alone in your thoughts that we must build our town. However, we cannot build it on quicksand. Our town government needs to put more effort into building the tax base, by attracting more jobs to the area. I have been telling them this since the early 1990s, but nobody has taken it seriously. When we can start building our tax base and population, rather than watching it decline, our town will be in a better position to expand on the programs and facilities.
Kevin N. Saisi
Rumford Resident
Disclaimer:
It is acknowledged that not all landlords are slumlords, not all people from Massachusetts are from the slums, not all people from the slums have many children, and not all such people have children inclined toward crime.
Mr. Byard must be one of
Mr. Byard must be one of those who has plenty of money and thinks that poor people are mythological beings dreamed up by the opposition to scare people into cutting budgets.
Reality check... grandma really is sitting at home with the heat turned low, eating dog food and going without her medicine just to afford your tax increase. Go ahead and force her out of her home. She will no doubt end up in subsidized housing and food assistance. Meanwhile, her home will be bought by some slumlord and rented out to low a low income family from the slums of Massachusetts. Their children will attend local schools and eventually occupy our local jails. This will increase the city budget even more, which will cause the same thing to happen to other grandmas. Talk about a domino effect.
Where I live there is a 50+
Where I live there is a 50+ year old guy who walks all around town shirtless all summer long.
In the English Gardens in
In the English Gardens in Munich, worker sunbathe completely nude on their lunch breaks. The gardens are in the middle of the city.
"Again I support your
"Again I support your argument and I wouldn't want kids to be exposed to the female or male body in such a way, it is your responsibility to keep kids away."
Away from what? What actual harm is caused by a child seeing a naked breast?? Please site clinical studies. :)
<blockquote>I stand by my
<blockquote>I stand by my opinion that a woman who is barebreasted in public is doing it for shock value. Whether she has lofty motives or not, she IS trying to shock people.</blockquote>
Well, does your sweeping generalization apply to ALL women everywhere? What about the African tribes where toplessness in public is commonplace? What about the legally sanctioned nude beaches where women sunbathe? What about breastfeeding moms? Your comment makes them all seem to be exhibitionistic perverts. Looking to draw attention is not the same as wanting to shock people. She is trying to convey a message, so she obviously wants to draw attention, but she may not be looking to shock anyone. There are those who will be shocked, but the more mature and self righteous will just smile.
I agree that toplessness by
I agree that toplessness by anyone is not appropriate in the business district on a regular basis. However, this woman is attempting to convey a message, and to do that, you sometimes have to push the envelope a bit. If she were to do the same thing on a remote country road, it probably wouldn't have been noticed, and her message wouldn't reach as many people. I am suggesting that if society had a more mature approach nudity, there would be no reason for anyone to be traumatized by what they saw.
Not for shock
The way I read it, she is not doing it for excitement, she is trying to send a message. Obviously, you just don't get it.
The human body comes in two
The human body comes in two basic varieties, male and female. Most people on this earth are either one or the other. Why do we feel the need to hide certain parts? Just because some people are uncomfortable with their bodies, or become aroused at the sight of another, laws are made to prevent other people from being seen in the basic human state.
People with certain religious convictions will tell you that being nude is sinful. But nowhere in the Bible does it outright state that thou shalt not be nude. Nudity is not a sin. When someone sees another nude, the only sin that may occur is lust, and that is on behalf of the person seeing not the person who is nude. God created everything in his own image, and nothing God created can be bad.
Laws prohibiting nudity are actually legislated morality. Where do we draw the line between religion and the law? In certain beliefs it is sinful for women to show their faces. The only body parts that are allowed to remain uncovered is their hands. Is this where we are heading?
Studies have shown that children who grow up with a healthy understanding of the human body, are more likely to have a positive body image, and less likely to participate in promiscuity in their teen years. Teen pregnancy at nudist resorts is almost non-existent. Perhaps we should learn from our textile resistant brothers and sisters. When you hide something from a child, it only makes it more attractive for them to try and see it. If we can take the stigma out of "being human", the lust will eventually become a non-issue.
What harm comes to a child who sees a human breast? Many get a close up and personal exposure on a regular basis until they are old enough for solid food. Older children are only titillated by the sight because of the way we adults react. We actually train our children to think that exposure of a breast is shameful. If left to their own conclusion, humans would think nothing more of a breast than they do an elbow. When was the last time you were arouse by an elbow??
Children do not become sexually aware prior to puberty unless trained by caregivers. This training takes on many forms, but is quite effective. It all starts when they are infants. Infants are natural nudists, but the necessity of diapers cause a need for them to cover up. But as they grow, they are constantly instructed as to where they are allowed to be nude, and where they must be dressed. On a hot summer day, they are not allowed to enjoy a pool without adorning a bathing suit that quickly becomes a soggy heavy nuisance.When they bathe, they are usually told that they must get dressed before leaving the bathroom. They may ask why, and be told that it is not proper for them to be in their own home undressed, even though there is nobody else in the house. This creates a body shame; if seeing a body is bad, then maybe the body is bad. It also creates a curiosity as to what other bodies look like. But when they walk into mom's room while she is dressing, they may be greeted by a shrill scream and scolded for doing so.
These are examples of subliminal training. The more obvious training methods come from the examples set by adults. When Uncle Phinneus starts talking about "hooters", he is passing his juvenille attitude to all of the children within earshot. When he makes lustful comments such as "I'd like to get inside her pants" he is training another generation of insensitive lust-driven perverts of every child who is within ear shot. If not corrected, such behavior is seen as acceptable.
We need to develop a respect for others, including a respect for the human body. Laws restricting people from being human are not the solution, but only contribute to the problem.
Wow
Sounds like a really good program. :) Kudos to Ms. Beane.
As I said,
As I said,
Frank doesn't always do things the way others do, but that does not make him a bad person. Frank's comments in the meeting addressed the situation. Whatever else he may have said in his emails is not relavant to this discussion. He does express himself too strongly at times, but I have said similar things to both Carlo and the board members, just in a different way.
It is irresponsible for a board to recommend an increased budget after a 4 mil tax increase, especially after failing to attain a 10% decrease in the current budget. I am not sure what Saab owners are saying, but everyone I speak to, except for Brad, Jeff and Greg, are apalled at the action.
Now there is word that a member of the board reportedly trying to coerce the finance committee into not recommending a lower budget. The selectmen as a board have no authority over the finance committee regarding the budget, and a single member of the board has no authority unless the majority of the board grants it to him. Yes, the board sets the level of service, but they must do so within the fiscal ability of the town (which is based upon the collective ability of all taxpaying citizens). Such actions are unethical, if not illegal.
Insulting
Frank may not express himself as tactfully as others, but he does represent a large segment of the population with his comments. When taxes jump 4 mils and the town leaders fail to cut the budget, they have to expect some discontent.
Wifi
There is software available that allows a central computer to limit internet access based upon time. A person signs up and is given a login, after 30 minutes, they are automatically disconnected from the internet.
I don't recommend a blanket policy of charging for the internet, but I do suggest that porn sites be filtered from childrens access. I don't believe that internet access is constitutionally protected. Library computers should be free for research, but not for social networking and games.
Good Move
The library is expecting us to believe that they have over 50,000 visitors a year?? Marie Boudreau did an excellent job presenting the common sense viewpoint. Who in their right mind would move that historic library? What governmental agency would fund it? I wonder if Mr. Sterling has ever been a legislator, because he spends like one.
Obstructionists
How long do we have to wait?? By the time Augusta is done playing its games, there will be casinos in New Hampshire and Canada that take away any potential benefit to the state from other areas. They act as if they are in a vacuum, and the outside world has no affect on Maine.
Pit Bull
It is incidents like these that cause towns to enact ordinances restricting such dogs. I believe that a dog owner should be held responsible for their dog and all damages caused by the dog. Any dog that attacks this aggressively should be put down, no questions.
I didn't realize there were
I didn't realize there were any Republicans left in Augusta.
Franklin County??
I presume that the writer meant to say that Oxford County Sheriffs responded. If Franklin County units can get there that fast, they are way out of their coverage area.
What was the emergency???
I am confused by the use of an emergency clause to enact these laws/regulations. How are they an emergency?? If the legislature is going to have such a liberal definition of emergency then our local governments appear justified to have the same leeway in using emergency clauses in their town governments. It is an abuse of power.
That being said, I see nothing wrong with the regulations and laws in this article, just the process used.
What????
Okay guys, you know that you have violated the trust the people put in you. It was obvious that you weren't going to meet your goal of finding 10% savings this year, but there is no reason why the budget came in higher for next year. This is inexcusable, and will likely be reflected in the selectmen's race despite the words you say to make it look like you didn't support it. Now, we must see what the finance committee does. If they come back with an increased budget, we may end up having to vote it down and send it back to be done over.
Ordinance
The PEOPLE voted in an ordinance authorizing the selectmen to administer the fee. Their decision outweighs the decision of one person. If you have no knowledge on a topic, it is foolhardy to argue. Your ignorance is showing.
Fee
Just because it meets your definition, does not make it so. When you read your cable bill, presuming that you are a cable subscriber, it is listed as a franchise fee. The federal goverment designates it as a fee. So, your definitio is trumped by authorities much more powerful than you and I.
Everything is not a nail
"The balance should then go into the general fund for spending as need-be for the good of the taxpayers that paid the fees in the first place."
The taxpayers did not pay in anything to this fund. The cable subscribers paid in money, which should be used to their benefit, not the benefit of those without cable tv. I have proposed an ordinance to eliminate the slush fund.
According to Federal
According to Federal Regulations, franchise fees are, just that, fees. Their intent was to offset the cost to the municipality in administering the agreement with the cable tv companies, and for public access tv stations. The money is paid by the subscribers, and not by those who do not subscribe. Municipalities have misused these funds due to a lack of understanding as to their intent. In Rumford, I have been informing the town of the true intent of those fees ever since the beginning of the access channel. I have addressed the issue of their use over the past few decades. The trouble is, it has become a convenient slush fund from which to feed pet projects. The ordinance that was written provides the board with governance over the use of the fees. However, such use should not exceed the acceptable uses established by the federal government. I am submitting an ordinance change that would assure the funds are used for cable tv related expenses. I hope that it will be accepted by the board. If not, I will be seeking the signatures to petition it onto the ballot. I am also proposing other ordinance changes to regulate the constant outflow of money to private interests.
Ayuh
You hit the nail on the head. It is good to see that there are still a few conservatives out there who don't resort to childishness to argue their point. When you follow the Glenn Beck school of politics, you are going to fail.
Sad
It is sad that a town the size of Farmington would only have 119 voters show up to vote. Is this accurate, or a misprint??
No Downside???
How can you not see a downside?? There is a loan involved here, and loans need to be paid back. Our current fiscal situation does not permit for new projects of any significant cost. At a previous board meeting there was discussion of cutting capital improvement budgets, and here you want to build a whole new building?? Somebody needs a reality check. What happened to cutting budgets??
Where does it say he is
Where does it say he is affiliated with the League of the South??
WHAT????
I thought the department heads were supposed to be finding ways to cut the budget, why are there increases?????? Now, when the board makes cuts, these departments will cry foul, but they had a chance to find the cuts themselves. The budget, as proposed, will assure that taxes remain high due to the drop in valuation for the mill and hydro-power plant.
It's too bad, granny really liked living in the home where she was born, but now she will end up in low income housing with her rent subsidized by the state. Her home will be bought by some out of town slum monger who will rent it to tenants whose rent and heat is subsidized by the state. Then the board will complain that state taxes are too high.
What, no jaywalking?? These
What, no jaywalking?? These incidents barely even qualify as crimes. Why do they call it a CRIME Bulletin when most of it is minor infractions? Are we afraid that the person who misused identification will strike again?? OMG!!
common sense aint so common
I would be willing to bet that the majority of the vehicles are out-of-staters, probably from southern New England.
Town Subsidy
It is my understanding that a portion of the money provided for books, transportation and nursing services is reimbursed by the state.
Only 40 students??
I didn't realize that the school was down to 40 students. I believe that the downturn partly affected by the financial status of our nation and our community. But it also has a lot to do with the perception the community has about the school.
It is difficult for a family to afford private education, either religious or secular. It is costly for such institutions to function. When only wealthier families can afford to send their children, a perceived class division occurs. Some of those who can afford to send their children, see private education as a status symbol. Perhaps without knowing it, they project an air of superiority over the have-nots. This eventually becomes the culture of the institution, which is the very thing that drives people away from it.
We considered sending my daughter to the school a while back. We discussed the prospect with the school leadership who informed me that they didn't "have the resources" to meet my child's needs. Well, with 40 students in 9 grade levels, my math shows an average class size of 4.5 students. What kind of demon would my child have to be to be a problem in that size class?? Perhaps my child wasn't good enough, or I wasn't the right type of parent to associate with their school. I am unsure what their true rationale was, but I felt that it was not really a problem with "resources".
A previous principal at the school indicated that the school is based upon love, but only as it was defined by them. It did not include those who were different (economically or otherwise), and it did not include tolerance for those who had difficulty. In recent years, I have not seen the same attitude spoken outright, as it was back then, but the culture may not have changed.
I am a firm believer in a school voucher system. If a parent is paying taxes to include education of their child, the dollars associated with their child's education should go to the school the child attends. If we had a voucher system, there would be no social class division at the school, and the school would have many more students. The competition between public schools and charter schools would drive the quality of education, eliminating the need to "teach" the students how to pass the assessment, and instead giving them an actual education.
No slander on MY part
Candice,
I have not slandered you, but it seems that my character is being drawn through the mud. I received my information regarding the bins from Mr. Puiia. The complaint is addressed in this article: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1914&dat=19930415&id=fQ4gAAAAIBAJ&sjid=EGYFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1803,4016581. As you know, the terms of selectmen do not run on a calendar year. This is why I was unsure if the action had occurred in 1992 or 1993. I don't obsess over such things, so they are not in the forefront of my mind.
I have no reason to believe that you are not using two different accounts to post here. I googled Ms. O'Hara and found no reference whatsoever (except for on the SJ). Every time you get up to speak, you say the same thing in the same way so, based upon the post, it is difficult to believe that you are not ArmyMom. If you have been following my posts so closely, you would know that I have no intention of running for selectman this June. You would also know the reasons I have given for my decision. You and I both know what happened in the 1990s. If you have any questions about abything that happened when I was on the board, I would be more than happy to discuss what I can with you.
Your sources are wrong. First
Your sources are wrong. First of all, I was not a teenager, I was in my 20's. The Town Manager at the time was John Madigan, whom I supported (which is what caused the rift between me and the majority of the board) until the day he left. After John, Robbie Welch was interim Town Manager. We didn't agree on everything, but we didn't fight either.
The turmoil at the time was symptomatic of the composure of the board, the fact that a majority was working to get rid of Mr. Madigan, and various discriminatory attitudes among board members. It was a difficult time and rules were not being followed. I was attempting to get the rules enforced through the bylaws.Unfortunately, they had been written in such a way as to be unenforcable. The issues during my term helped people realize that they needed to be changed.
If you have questiona about the bins, perhaps you should check with Mr. Puiia , as I have.
As for the slander accusation, I see no basis. I can prove all of what I have said about Traci's background regardless of what she "remembers". I will accept that you believe yourself to be someone other than Candice, but we all know how easy it is to have two profiles. It is a common belief that your profile is used regularly by her to promote her agenda.
Candice Casey (ArmyMom)
There goes Candice with her self promoting speech. She writes it in the third person to give the appearance that anyone else would be so empassioned to support her. As we hwve discussed in the past, the Recycling Bin issue was merely a case of Candice not following the established procedure. She has a history of doing this. Back when I was on the board (1992?) she filed complaints against three members of the board in an attempt to get the remaining two (myself and Eddie Shurtleff) to remove them. We all know that two members of a board cannot take an official action, let alone removing the majority. But she tried, and the effort failed.
I am very pleased that our town has a board that gets along, and a Town Manager who takes the time to listen to all citizens. It has taken many years, but we now have a functional board. I have been asking them to set goals and take action, but they apper to be too timid to do so. It is my hope that the members of the next board (after June election) will use a strategic planning process to set goals, objectives and timelines so that they can lead us into a more prosperous future.
Brad Adley told me he is
Brad Adley told me he is running.
It seems that my words motivated him somehow to decide to run. After speaking with him, and seeing how the board handled the Personnel Policy hearing, I am beginning to have hope that things might just start moving. :)
Re: cornfield
Okay, I admit that the confield reference was a bit over the edge. I get so frustrated seeing our town decline while the board does little to stop it. Our board members are all intelligent people who have the capacity to do great things for the community. I am just hoping that they choose to be more active in the near future.
I would like to thank John for being a good friend and providing me constructive feedback on this. :)
I would have to be nuts, but
This June there will be three openings up for grabs. The seats currently held by Mr. Adley, Mr. DiConzo, and Mr.Sterling are all coming due. With three openings, it is possible for some former members of the board to return. We could revert to the turmoil of the past. I am not willing to risk being a minority member of such a board.
I enjoy the (unofficial) position I currently hold. I work to make people aware of what is happening on the board, I monitor the meetings and decisions of the board, and I provide suggestions (guidance) for their consideration. If I were on the board I would be much more restricted as to what I could do. I have been there and I am very reluctant to put myself in that position again. There are a number of upstanding citizens in this town who can fill the positions. After the fireworks issue, I am not likely to support Mr. Adley for re-election. I am willing to give Mr. Sterling a chance to redeem himself due to his lack of time on the board. If Mr. DiConzo is able and willing to run again, I am likely to support him as he has been more active in seeking to make progress in some areas.
WOW
I wish I lived in a town that actually planned something, but I live in Rumford. Our town can't plan it's way out of a corn field after harvest.
In all fairness, Jim Rinaldo has planned a concert series in the Rumford Falls Auditorium, but aside from that it is status quo. If you look at Rumford's history, we used to be a flurry of activity, with events planned throughout the year. But, unfortunately, all of the motivated people either died or moved away.
If it weren't for Jim Rinaldo and Phil Blampied, our town would be stagnant. If you don't believe me, look at the agenda for this weeks meeting of the Board of Selectmen. There is almost nothing on it, and not even discussion about doing anything substantial.
Crime Bulletin??
With all of this crime in town, why don't we have more police?? I can't imagine that it takes 12 police officers to handle this much crime. Maybe Officer Obie from Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant story is in charge. The next time somebody litters, I expect to see the full crime team on the job (dogs, helicopters, etc).
HUH??
I would have thought this was standard practice in all schools decades ago. It is a shame that a student had to raise the issue instead of those who we trust (and pay) to do the job. Good job Carl. I would hope that other young people in our community would follow suit. If our generation is too lazy to do what is right, perhaps we need to be told what to do by the younger generation.
I am sorry to hear of the
I am sorry to hear of the boy's death, but I would think that such symptoms would cause such alarm in a parent as to cause them to call an ambulance. No medical practitioner can diagnose 100% accurately over the phone. At the very least, get a second opinion. The provider should have stated that if symptoms get worse, or the parent is sufficiently concerned, a hospital visit would be recommended. If they did, they should be cleared of any wrong-doing. We cannot expect our providers to perform beyond their capacity. Technology has not progressed to the point that such diagnosis can be performed over the phone.
Based upon the information
Based upon the information presented in this article, the Solid Waste Board has no authority to remove a member. Any removal has to be done by the town who appointed the member. Until such removal takes place, the member has the right to participate as a member, including participating in executive sessions. Had the member been removed by the police, the remaining board members may have been subject to legal action.
Now that is an interesting
Now that is an interesting idea. When a person with children is convicted with a drug related crime, take away their kids. It will reduce the children's exposure to drugs and give the parents motivation to not do the crime.
Jeers to Bradford Adley,
Jeers to Bradford Adley, Chairman of the Rumford Board of Selectmen for having the gaul to suggest that the Black Mountain and Greater Rumford Community Center programs be merged under the Rumford Parks Department at Thursday nights meeting even after receiving a Blue Ox Award (Oxie) for the lame-brained idea.
Both the GRCC and BMOM are
Both the GRCC and BMOM are valuable programs, but in a tight economy with a recent jump in taxes for most homeowners, it is not a time to be expanding on the services that come under municipal budgets, much less subsidizing private non-profit corporations under the guise of a town department. Let the voters decide if they want to continue to support these two entities through the initiated article process.
There are more names on the
There are more names on the petition than the number that voted in the first place. If those people had paid attention the first time, there would be no issue. However, the democratic process allows for a revote on the issue.
This is where you shun
This is where you shun technology and use common sense. If the road isn't paved and plowed, then don't continue.
Super-Jeers to Bradford
Super-Jeers to Bradford Adley, Chairman of the Rumford Board of Selectmen, for suggesting that the board find "althernate ways of funding" Black Mountain and the Greater Rumford Community Center by hiding their initiated article request in the town's Parks and Recreation budget. This move would make it more difficult for citizens to vote down the allocations, and put Parks and Recreation programs at risk.
Jeers to the Rumford Board of
Jeers to the Rumford Board of Selectmen who, after asking employees to take furlough days to save money, donated $1,000 from Economic Development funds to Black Mountain ski area for fireworks. It is anticipated that 500 people (mostly local) will be attending the event.
Shhhh, don't tell anyone that
Shhhh, don't tell anyone that the same board that has asked the employees to sacrifice by taking unpaid days off, just gave Black Mountain $1,000 for fireworks.