That was the nice version. Just looking for a reasonable argument from the other side..and still waiting. Long time no see though, Pattie...like the hair. Hope all is well with you and yours!
Or maybe this country should have some document. Some piece of paper maybe with people's rights spelled out. Yeah, that would be nice. Then, biggots and religious fanatics can rail all they want to but would still be unable to quell the rights of others like women, blacks, hispanics, Asians, Jews, Irish, and well... hey, if you have two neurons firing and half a cup of coffee you can figure it out.
The question I kept asking the "no" side and the one I will continue to ask is this: can you make an argument against gay marriage that does not involve religion? Marriage was established in western civilization first for property and title rights. The church involvement was only to verify this; oh, and share in the power. It was only adopted by the emerging middle class in the 17th century. Marriage today in the US is conducted by the government no matter who presides over the ceremony. Also, if you want a divorce, the government is the only body to answer to there. Therefore, ALL marriages are little more than civil unions. So I ask again: Can you make a Constitutional argument against it? I didn't think so.
Well, that's one way to look at it. Here's another: That little girl will wake up this morning, see the snow, and breathe the air. The same cannot be said for the woman this tool murdered by his combination of arrogance and dull wit. He was a habitual offender. Habitual; meaning he made the choice over and over again; the choice, to be unsafe behind thousands of pounds of steel. He wouldn't have cared if it were someone's grandmother or someone else's 8 year old daughter that he killed as long has he had his way on the road. Perhaps you do the same? Maybe you know the family. Maybe you know who thought it was a good idea to let him behind the wheel...again? No matter. If you meet me in the proverbial dark alley and you have half the personality defect of those you defend, I am confident you will todder into a dumpster long before reaching me to assert your penis size.
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That was the nice version.
That was the nice version. Just looking for a reasonable argument from the other side..and still waiting. Long time no see though, Pattie...like the hair. Hope all is well with you and yours!
Or maybe this country should
Or maybe this country should have some document. Some piece of paper maybe with people's rights spelled out. Yeah, that would be nice. Then, biggots and religious fanatics can rail all they want to but would still be unable to quell the rights of others like women, blacks, hispanics, Asians, Jews, Irish, and well... hey, if you have two neurons firing and half a cup of coffee you can figure it out.
The question I kept asking
The question I kept asking the "no" side and the one I will continue to ask is this: can you make an argument against gay marriage that does not involve religion? Marriage was established in western civilization first for property and title rights. The church involvement was only to verify this; oh, and share in the power. It was only adopted by the emerging middle class in the 17th century. Marriage today in the US is conducted by the government no matter who presides over the ceremony. Also, if you want a divorce, the government is the only body to answer to there. Therefore, ALL marriages are little more than civil unions. So I ask again: Can you make a Constitutional argument against it? I didn't think so.
Well, that's one way to look
Well, that's one way to look at it. Here's another: That little girl will wake up this morning, see the snow, and breathe the air. The same cannot be said for the woman this tool murdered by his combination of arrogance and dull wit. He was a habitual offender. Habitual; meaning he made the choice over and over again; the choice, to be unsafe behind thousands of pounds of steel. He wouldn't have cared if it were someone's grandmother or someone else's 8 year old daughter that he killed as long has he had his way on the road. Perhaps you do the same? Maybe you know the family. Maybe you know who thought it was a good idea to let him behind the wheel...again? No matter. If you meet me in the proverbial dark alley and you have half the personality defect of those you defend, I am confident you will todder into a dumpster long before reaching me to assert your penis size.
Yet another sign of a soft
Yet another sign of a soft society. Suck it up, buttercup. They're only words.