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In this case, it wasn't.

In this case, it wasn't.

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Dan ...

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I agree, Linda. Thanks for

I agree, Linda. Thanks for the kind words. :)

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knock it off, Dan.

knock it off, Dan.

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I know I'm a little late here, but

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Hi Dorothea, I fixed the link

Hi Dorothea,

I fixed the link so you could click through. Here it is again:

http://tinyurl.com/72bc7el

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Yes. Thanks, Jason.

Yes. Thanks, Jason.

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This is the column by the

This is the column by the mayor to which Dan is referring:

http://www.twincitytimes.com/columns/enough-is-enough-lewiston-legislato...

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I have edited this comment to

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That's it, your banned, Bob.

That's it, your banned, Bob.

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Hi Roger, Just wanted to let

Hi Roger,

Just wanted to let you know that we looked into the story and the driver was cleared. No charges will be filed.

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We will follow up on this

We will follow up on this story.

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Bob, namecalling is not allowed. If you continue to do that, I will ban your account.

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Regional editor called the

Regional editor called the Maine Forest Service to check into the allegations made in Leola's comment, and the facts did not check out about Bayroot, LLC nor Irish Family Logging. This comment will remain removed.

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The Sun Journal is

The Sun Journal is investigating the allegations made in this comment. We will update pending our review.

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If you call Bob a name again, you're banned.

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This is the second time, David. Please follow the rules.

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I removed this comment at Ron's request.

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"... [Republicans] are so

"... [Republicans] are so unpatriotic ..."
"... Conservatives have no shame."

That's just going back two days! Even on Sunday, on that nice story about people stepping up to help the Dixfield couple who couldn't heat their home, you said, "I agree, but it would be more heartwarming if the republicans in this state would have stepped up, instead of Democrats from other states." How do you even know the political affiliation of who donated money?!

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But Dan, you think the

But Dan, you think the Republicans are to blame for almost everything.
Car accidents ...
The weather ...

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Dan ...

Dan ...

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That comment was inappropriate, Kris. Knock it off.

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That's why we don't allow

That's why we don't allow commenting with *just* a Facebook account right now — because there aren't the same level of restrictions on having a Facebook account.

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Thanks for your feedback,

Thanks for your feedback, Phyllis!

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That's the live chat we did a

That's the live chat we did a few days ago. You might not be able to see it because you need to have Flash installed.

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One agree so far — anyone

One agree so far — anyone else interested in this? Agree with Mike's comment.

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Fair enough. I think this

Fair enough. I think this video is relevant to the discussion:

http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles.html

We want this to be a place where people can communicate freely and facilitate discussion. And maybe we'll have more comments if users can share those comments within a closed circle of friends, or filter out someone he or she might think adds to the noise. But we also want this to be a place for your "information vegetables" — where you have to hear another points of view, points of view you might not agree with.

Ideas? Reactions?

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In all seriousness, we are

In all seriousness, we are considering doing something like that — "friending" users or "squelching" others, so some people can only see what your saying or turning off other people.

Did you take our poll about verified commenting? http://www.sunjournal.com/news/approved/0001/11/30/live-chat-one-year-re...

OK, you may now go back to your regularly scheduled debating ...

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Play nice.

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And you need to be respectful too, Dan.

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I removed this comment at

I removed this comment at Brenda's request.

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Knock it off, Dan.

Knock it off, Dan.

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Play by the rules, Paul ...

Play by the rules, Paul ...

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He doesn't get a pass. I

He doesn't get a pass. I banned him.

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You're right, they both are

You're right, they both are breaking the rules.

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That's it, Bob, you're done.

That's it, Bob, you're done.

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Bob, it doesn't matter. Rules

Bob, it doesn't matter. Rules are rules. Play by them.

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Knock it off, Paul.

Knock it off, Paul.

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Knock it off, Bob.

Knock it off, Bob.

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This thread violates our

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One more time Bob and you're done.

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Knock it off, Bob.

Knock it off, Bob.

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That's why we went with

That's why we went with verified commenting. Anyone can comment, as long as you use your real name. A lot fewer comments for sure, but people have to stand by what they say.

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Both of you need to knock it off.

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I edited this comment because

I edited this comment because the first phone number Cris listed was incorrect, and some poor woman received a call about this late at night the other night.

I also spoke with Harold Clough and he said that the name of the PAC is "Secure our Ballot," note "Secure our Votes."

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How about both of them?

How about both of them?

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Terry, please don't use that term.

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That's it Dan, you're done.

That's it Dan, you're done.

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Bob, that is none of this

Bob, that is none of this forum's business. Knock it off.

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Robin, I am banning your

Robin, I am banning your account for failure to abide by our commenting policy.

http://www.sunjournal.com/policy

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You can find all our staff

You can find all our staff contact information here:

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Robin, you are one of the

Robin, you are one of the worst offenders with rude, over the line comments. I don't think you have much ground to stand on.

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Dan, that is absolutely not

Dan, that is absolutely not what I said. I said that if you want to comment here, you need to play by the rules and treat others respectfully.

http://www.sunjournal.com/policy

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You can report inappropriate

You can report inappropriate comments by using the link below the comment. Anyone can do that — you do not need to be a registered or verified user.

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Dan, if you say "right wing

Dan, if you say "right wing [derogatory term]" one more time, I'm going to ban your account.

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Dan, you cannot say right

Dan, you cannot say right wing dingbats, either.

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Dan, you can't call people right-wing wackos. Knock it off.

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Dan, that mistake was not the

Dan, that mistake was not the letter writers', it was ours, and we were correcting the record.

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Oh Dan ... Here are all the

Oh Dan ...

Here are all the other Maine Press Association members. The awards are divided into weekly and daily categories.

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Aw, thanks, Kris!

Aw, thanks, Kris!

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OK. I put your comments back

OK. I put your comments back up.

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What are you talking about?

What are you talking about? You asked me to remove those comments.

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I've removed your two

I've removed your two previous comments in this thread.

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Robin, please be civil.

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Donna didn't — I can see in

Donna didn't — I can see in the system — we don't do that after publication without adding an editors' note, I promise.

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Knock it off guys.

Knock it off guys.

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Knock it off, Bob.

Knock it off, Bob.

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A Macbook is more than twice

A Macbook is more than twice as expensive than an iPad.

Cheapest MacBook: $1199
Cheapest iPad: $499

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Name calling is not allowed.

Name calling is not allowed.

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Bob, cut it out.

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Here's a link to the

Here's a link to the full-size image, Brooks. You don't have to buy a print. :)

http://www.sunjournal.com/files/2011/07/07/CITsalts02P070811.jpg

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Ron, knock it off.

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Dan, you know that's not

Dan, you know that's not true.

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Robin, sent you a private

Robin, sent you a private email.

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Threatening remarks are not

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Dan Hartill is actually

Dan Hartill is actually working on a story about that for Sunday's paper. Stay tuned!

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No - it was defamatory.

No - it was defamatory.

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That's awfully insensitive,

That's awfully insensitive, Ron.

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Knock it off, Bob.

Knock it off, Bob.

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I removed this comment in

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Awh, thanks Pirate! :)

Awh, thanks Pirate! :)

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Be nice, Paul.

Be nice, Paul.

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I removed this comment at Betty's request.

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Haha, that is very cool, Ron.

Haha, that is very cool, Ron. :)

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Ron, please cool it with the personal attacks.

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Would you say, "there was a

Would you say, "there was a white woman who was seen waiting and getting impatient"?

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Haha! That is too funny.

Haha! That is too funny.

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Hey, thanks for taking the

Hey, thanks for taking the time to post that, Jason.

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This comment and the one

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He wrote the source — the

He wrote the source — the Associated Press.

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"this is what we've come to

"this is what we've come to expect from people who do not have a job and can only get by because of taxpayers like you and I."

It's not secret about whom Bob is talking and personal attacks are not allowed.

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Mark, Like Will said, he is

Mark,

Like Will said, he is no longer the chairman for the Andro County Dems for the past two years. I know our editorial page editors are very conscientious of including that kind information with editorials and would not neglect to do so. Will has also been a regular columnist for us — one of the "Political Animals" — for a number of years.

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This is a reply test.

This is a reply test.

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This is a test.

This is a test.

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Good catch.

It was supposed to be Iraq. I edited it in the article.

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That's intentional.

It's posted in Franklin, River Valley and the Oxford Hills sections because the people who were arrested live in all those regions.

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Personal attacks are not

Personal attacks are not allowed. Your account has been banned for a week.

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I don't get your comments

I don't get your comments about the others "attacking you at will." Paul/Pirate was just making an observation about your agrees and disagrees today, which I think is fair.

Our commenting policy prohibits comments that are:
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I don't see how that comment falls under anything on that list.

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Thanks, Lorrie! :)

Thanks, Lorrie! :)

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Is that a geography joke? :)

Is that a geography joke? :)

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She isn't; she's a verified

She isn't; she's a verified user and I called Brenda personally.

You need to be a bit nicer, Dan.

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Pirate! You're back!

Pirate! You're back!

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The editing function is

The editing function is intentionally disabled so people can't go back and change things they've said. :)

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Didn't mean to disagree ...

Didn't mean to disagree ... just testing something, Scott. :)

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Only your name and the town

Only your name and the town you live in. And your profile, should you choose to share something.

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Yes, armymom was also

Yes, armymom was also Candiceanne.

I thought I fixed the new thing ... don't worry, it's not going away. ;)

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Hey John, I've taken my time

Hey John,

I've taken my time to respond to your comment because it was very thoughtful and well-presented, and I wanted to reply in the same way.

First, I'm very sorry to see you go. You've been among our core group of commenters. But you knew that, because I've said as much to you privately already.

Second, you raise all valid and very true points. When we all are anonymous (or choose to be anonymous), it does in some ways level the playing field because the high school dropout can debate with the college professor. And there are people, who brought a lot of informed and intelligent information to the debate that will not be able to participate in the conversation because of things like their occupation, or their employer, or their home life, or whatever.

I completely empathize and understand where those people are coming from. And in the history of the Internet until very, very recently, an expectation of anonymity was the norm. Like that New Yorker cartoon:

I remember when Facebook announced that they were going to link profiles with other schools. There was outrage! What an invasion of privacy. Then when they were going to allow anyone get on Facebook, regardless of whether or not that had an .edu account. Everyone was upset. To put your name and your face and where you lived on the Internet for anyone to find you was crazy.

But that thinking has changed. And in a relatively short time, too. And I think most people would agree, for the better. Better than the days when all you saw on Facebook were the people you went to school with, and that's it. Sharing information with your friends and family, or reconnecting with lost friends has never been easier.

We decided that we wanted our community to be more like the open town hall and less like the anonymous message boards. We recognize that not everyone can and will stand up in the town hall. But for the people that do, they will know to whom they are speaking and maybe treat them more like another human being and less like a soulless, faceless name on the Internet.

Will it work? Will we ever go back? We don't know the answer to those questions.

But what I do know, and what this lesson of calling hundreds of people has taught me, is that we are a community of real people, with real families and lives, and I hope that this process has demonstrated that we as a business are willing to put the resources into making this online community work.

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Awh, we wouldn't want that,

Awh, we wouldn't want that, parrot! I think I will leave them that way.

For all of you that choose not to be verified, you can still use the agree/disagree buttons.

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You are close, with all of

You are close, with all of them except BenDare, who was Bob Reed.

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I try to review them all

I try to review them all within a day.

I don't always respond to them individually, but if you leave your email address in the message, I do try to make an effort to respond.

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Hey, as of right now, more

Hey, as of right now, more people agree with you ... does that mean that more people agree that they will disagree with you no matter what?

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I removed this comment for

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What do you mean?

What do you mean?

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Yes, the only people who can

Yes, the only people who can see your phone number are you and a few trusted editors in our newsroom.

We promise we will never sell or expose your phone numbers, or contact you for any other reason other than your account on SunJournal.com

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I hadn't been planning on

I hadn't been planning on resetting it ... I dunno, what do you guys think?

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Doesn't it bother you that

Doesn't it bother you that the person you're speaking to on this forum is fake? And has invented several fake personalities to agree with his or herself?

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Dan, you know better than that.

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Also, Candice, caught you

Also, Candice, caught you again.

I can't wait until Feb. 1 and I don't have to weed out all your alter egos every day.

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We're not cutting off

We're not cutting off comments -- that's ridiculous -- we're just requiring that you use your real name.

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I <3<3<3 Trader Joes. I'd

I <3<3<3 Trader Joes.

I'd also highly recommend all of the soups (preservative free!), the Thai cooking sauces (easy dinner that's tastier and healthier than takeout!), and the Greek yogurt (cheaper than Shaws and no added sugars).

There's a reason why you have to stalk shoppers leaving the store for a parking space. :)

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Goodbye, Joe Izzo, banned

Goodbye, Joe Izzo, banned again.

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We have rules

And you broke them twice. Your account is now banned.

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If anyone wants to see the

If anyone wants to see the comment, I would be happy to email it to them.

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My policy has been thus:

My policy has been thus: First a warning, then banned for a week, then banned permanently.

We're turning off anonymous commenting in less than a week, so the window to reapply has passed for people who refuse to get verified.

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It's not a double standard,

It's not a double standard, Joe. You've been masquerading as several other people and that's against our rules. Goodbye.

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Joe, This comment has been

Joe,

This comment has been removed for violating our commenting policy.

Furthermore, I noticed that you've been operating several troll accounts on SunJournal.com and therefore I am banning your account until you are willing to get verified.

Pattie

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Banned for making threatening

Banned for making threatening comments. If you want to get your account back, you can reapply with a verified account.

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Ron,
You know that namecalling isn't allowed. Cut it out.

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Not to make excuses, but

There's a "report inappropriate comment button" and I don't check the site 24/7, so if no one reports it, then I won't see it (at least not in a speedy fashion).

I didn't get any reports for any comments on this story -- just an email from Leslie saying I should check out the comments!

I can't moderate if you guys don't let me know what's going on.

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Dan! You know better than

Dan! You know better than that ... we've talked about this before ...

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The you can see their real

The you can see their real names when you click through their usernames and icons -- and we're going to display real names with comments starting on Feb. 1.

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Maybe the illness is why the

Maybe the illness is why the moose calf was hanging around the lodge in the first place ....

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A good idea! I added a

A good idea! I added a street-view map for this story.

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I'd like to think that most

I'd like to think that most people would not condone violent acts.

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There was more to the comment

There was more to the comment that I removed.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

http://www.sunjournal.com/policy

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This comment and the one

This comment and the one before it were removed for violating our commenting policy.

http://www.sunjournal.com/policy

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The idea was to balance the

The idea was to balance the letters that were sent to the paper today. If you look through all the other letters, you can see that there were plenty admonishing Gov. LePage.

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He did:

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*removed

*removed

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This comment was remove for

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Violate it again and you'll be banned for a week.

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This comment was edited for violating our commenting policy, which prohibits comments that are potentially libelous:

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for the same reason as the one it is in reply to.

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I made that observation too,

I made that observation too, but a random drawing is a random drawing ... and most of our 11,000 users have never made more than one comment.

The truth is that, with most online communities, you have many more people who observe than directly participate. That definitely holds true when you look at the bigger picture, where we have 450 people who verified, 11K total users, and ~ 250K unique visitors a month.

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This comment was removed

This comment was removed because it violates our commenting policy, which forbids commercial postings.

If you want to advertise a service on our website, here's our rate card:

http://www.sunjournal.com/ratecard

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy, which forbids commercial postings attempting to sell a product or item.

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Well, Brain -- I wasn't

Well, Brain --

I wasn't verified on Twitter, or on Facebook, true. But (and I don't know are on twitter, but if you have an account, please feel free to add me) would you agree that spam is an issue on Twitter?

I was excited to see that we got 51 tweets on Leslie's story about local food production this morning -- but if you look at them, all of them are spam. :(

http://topsy.com/www.sunjournal.com/oxford-hills/story/967328?utm_source...

Anyway, addressing your question --

I ask:

- Did you make this application for verified status?
- Can you confirm your first and last name?
- Can you confirm the town you live in?
- Can you confirm your username?
- Can you confirm your email address?

We don't release this information to any one, and we only use your information to contact you about your account.

Maybe in the future we will have a tiered system where you can be a confidential source. It's all an experiment. We're just trying to elevate the conversation.

And thanks for your kind words. :)

Pattie

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This comment was edited

This comment was edited because it contained personally identifying information about Williams and another individual that has not been confirmed by the Sun Journal.

Our commenting policy states that we do not allow potentially libelous, nor threatening, comments.

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I'll take the Captcha off on

I'll take the Captcha off on Feb. 1. You shouldn't see it after you comment once, yes?

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That wasn't really the

That wasn't really the intent, to come across like we're selling the endorsement so hard ...

We had Gov. King in here for an editorial board meeting on another topic and we wanted him to weigh in on our new policy, since his concerns about sharing his editorial with us was part of what sparked the movement here to verify our online users.

For what it's worth I've really not heard many negative things, other than what people have written here in the comments (which yes, I do try to read most of them!). And I've heard so many positive things. It's been really, really cool to call all of our users and talk to them and put a voice to their names, so to speak. :)

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No personal attacks.

If the conversation gets heated, the right thing to do is to back off and report inappropriate comments.

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Banned

That's it, you're done.

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Ben -- You give me no choice

Ben --

You give me no choice but to ban you for violating our commenting policy one to many times -- which forbids personal attacks and name calling.

http://www.sunjournal.com/policy

If you are willing to verify your account, you can come back in one week.

Pattie

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CandiceAnne, I thought I

CandiceAnne, I thought I banned you?

You are exhausting. Goodbye. Please don't come back with another pseudonym. Nobody cares.

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Admin warning

Knock off the personal attacks.

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Admin warning

He's banned, and you need to can it with the personal attacks, or I'll ban you too.

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Banned

That's it, you're done.

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I have removed your comment

I have removed your comment here for violating our commenting policy, which prohibits comments that are baseless personal attacks or otherwise threatening.

Violate this policy again and you'll be banned.

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Admin warning

No personal attacks, Tron.

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Personal attacks are not

Personal attacks are not allowed. Do it again and your gone.

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Aw, I just saw this Kevin.

Aw, I just saw this Kevin. You're too nice.

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Not only that, but you've

Not only that, but you've been masquerading with at least 4 other accounts for months! Unreal! I should have checked IP addresses sooner.

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Candice Casey, I have you

Candice Casey, I have you sooooo figured out.

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Admin warning

I told you to stop with the namecalling and you didn't -- so now you're banned for a week. You can email me on Jan. 5 to reapply for community membership.

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Admin warning

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You make good points, Scout

You make good points, Scout Mom, and we'll look into options so that there will still be an option for people who are in situations like yours with Camp Gustin. They might be the form of agrees/disagrees, or a separate anonymous commenting section.

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It's not a baseless,

It's not a baseless, mindless, member removal. This is the third time I've seen her take it write up another member's history to prove her point that you can find out plenty of information about someone on the Internet when you know his or her real name. I call that harassment, and it breaks at least two of our rules. I'm not going to sit around here and watch her bully people.

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See this

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Hey -- sorry, i just saw this

Hey -- sorry, i just saw this comment. Thanks for sending me the email to let me know about it.

As of 11:39 a.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 29:
Verification applications: 146
Verified accounts: 154

Most of the people who have submitted a verification request have been honest. I've caught a handful trying to buck the system and that's expected. But honestly, it's not as many as I thought would.

I know that with some planning you can game the system. But the idea is that we wanted to make it easy enough for most people to to do, but difficult enough that someone would really have to plan it out to create a fake account.

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We're not asking people to

We're not asking people to say where they work. We're just asking them for their names and where they live. You don't violate that policy by posting on our website.

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Admin warning

That's it, armymom, you're done.

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Which article are you talking

Which article are you talking about?

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I've thought about that. My

I've thought about that. My concern is that someone will say something they will regret, and then, when I get 50 inappropriate comment reports and I go back to look at this comment, it won't be there, or it will be something different.

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Thanks for your thoughts,

Thanks for your thoughts, John. We don't think its a silver bullet, for sure ... maybe it will work. Maybe we will go back in a few months. You make valid points.

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Well, yes, that is all very

Well, yes, that is all very true.

But I want to point out that this policy didn't come without careful thought. I posted a query and a poll a month or so ago when we started talking about making these changes at the Sun Journal, and the majority of the people who responded to that poll said yes, we want to do away with anonymous commenting.

We've said it before and I'll say it again: This is a forum for you, our community members. We did this because we want civil discourse. We want the people to reclaim the comment boards and feel comfortable and safe participating in the discussions here. If it doesn't work and everyone leaves, then the experiment didn't work and we'll try something else. But the community wanted us to do something.

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Personal attacks are not

Personal attacks are not allowed. Violate our commenting policy again and you'll be banned for a week.

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That's because all the

That's because all the members of the editorial board "sign" their names to editorials. The editorial board is on the masthead on the editorial page, and consists of James Costello, our publisher, Rex Rhoades, our executive editor, and Judy Meyer, our managing editor.

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No namecalling. You've already been banned once, Voisine ...

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Right ... So how does saying

Right ...

So how does saying those things you aren't supposed to say under a pseudonym make it any better?

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Right, if you don't go

Right, if you don't go through the verification process, you can continue to comment through the end of the month.

I didn't remove any of your comments, citygirl.

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Confession: I was on vacation

Confession:

I was on vacation last week, so even though we've had about 300 verification requests, I didn't really start doing many of them until today. Which is why you haven't see 300 people running around commenting with green badges.

I've had a lot of fun calling all you guys, btw, and putting voices to names and usernames. :)

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What do you mean, they can't

What do you mean, they can't get "verified due to the jobs they have"?

If you work certain hours, we can call you in the morning or late at night -- we have staff to accommodate that. Just send me an email (preaves@sunjournal.com) and I'll pass on the info.

If you're saying that you can't comment with your real name because you're ethically bound from expressing viewpoints on certain topics because of the nature of your job — I empathize. I'm a journalist, after all. But that is a sacrifice that I have chosen to make for my profession. And while we regret that perhaps some interesting and relevant dialog from the community may be lost because these people cannot make comments anonymously, that's a sacrifice that we and the community have chosen to make in order to gain some civility in the comments section.

And I say the community because I posed the question to the community several weeks ago and 57 percent of the respondents said they would prefer users comment with their real names instead of pseudonyms.

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Mac antSaior is his last

Mac antSaior is his last name.

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Doug IS verified. I just

Doug IS verified. I just spoke on the phone with him.

Just because YOU don't want to comment with your real name doesn't mean you need to worry your pretty little head about the people who do.

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This comment was removed for

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So --

While with minimal computer skills you can dig up information about someone using his or her real name on the Internet (thank you for demonstrating that, "Freedom White") that doesn't mean you need to demonstrate that here.

We have commenting policy which prohibits threatening comments. And posting a bunch of personal information about someone, regardless of how you obtained that information, can be viewed as threatening.

Violate this comment policy again and your account will be banned for a week.

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I edited this comment, which

I edited this comment, which reposted the spam comment that was on this thread, because ... I don't want spam on this thread. Capice?

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From Suzanne

I'm sharing this memory from Suzanne (Tanguay) Reaves, my mother-in-law, at her request. Sue is Irene's niece.

My earliest memory of Aunt Irene is when I was very young, and she lived home with memére and her older sisters. When we'd go visit, I'd gravitate to her room here they had a record player and played 45s. We wou'd dance and dance to what ever the pop music as back then, late 50s - early 60s. I thought she was the coolest aunt.

Uncle Mike — you were there for us when my family needed yo most. You have our profound appreciations.

Kim — you just experienced one of my worst nightmares. I am so sorry.

Love, Suzanne

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What problems by caused by

What problems by caused by Somalis? Moderating the these comments and working at the newspaper, I hear them all. All of the "problems" people think are "caused by Somalis" are almost entirely unfounded and borderline racist.

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I got 'em. Thanks for

I got 'em. Thanks for everyone who took the time to report it.

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Oh, poor poochie. Scott

Oh, poor poochie.

Scott Thistle and Daryn Slover were headed over to the dog owner's house to get some pictures of the reunited owner and pooch for tomorrow's paper. :)

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I think he was pointing out

I think he was pointing out the fallacy of your assertion to fedupmainer that she only liked Nona because Nona was a Mainer ... which, as Tron pointed out, is not accurate.

You're getting all defensive for nothing! Relax ....

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This thread is out of

This thread is out of control, and I'm closing comments. You all need to cool off.

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Technical difficulties there.

Technical difficulties there. Story is back now. Sorry for the confusion!

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You are right! I made the

You are right! I made the change, sorry about the error.

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not allowed. You have been warned once, violate this rule again and your account will be banned for a week.

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Admin warning

This comment is in violation of our commenting policy, and since this is not the first time I have warned you for making inappropriate comments, your account has been banned for one week.

You can email me if you'd like to reapply for community membership on Dec. 14.

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No personal attacks.

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The system hiccupped and the

The system hiccupped and the stories weren't appearing. It should be fixed now!

-p

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Are you saying that people on

Are you saying that people on welfare make more than $45K a year? Because I find that impossible to believe.

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Personal attacks are not allowed.

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Now -- The two of you need to

Now --

The two of you need to cut it out.

No one is going to prove who was a better service member arguing on the Internet. Seriously.

I'm closing comments on this thread because this editorial is several days old now the conversation is no longer about the editorial.

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And for the record, it wasn't

And for the record, it wasn't Veritas who reported you, either.

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And .... that's the point

And .... that's the point when you get banned. You can email me after Dec. 6 if you want to re-apply for membership.

Bullies aren't welcome here.

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Hey, I try to be fair. But

Hey, I try to be fair. But you're entitled to your opinion.

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not allowed. Break the rules again and you'll be banned for a week.

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OK, making the same comment

OK, making the same comment 12 times is the equivalent of spamming. Knock it off.

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I removed this comment for

I removed this comment for violating our commenting policy, which forbids racist statements.

Since this comment was made before I warned BugBear, it will not count as a second strike.

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I removed this comment for

I removed this comment for violating our commenting policy, which forbids racist comments.

Since it was made before I warned BugBear for the last comment, it will not count as a second strike against her.

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I removed this comment for

I removed this comment for violating our commenting policy, which forbids personal attacks.

If you violate this policy again your account will be banned for one week.

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Ace reporter Scott Taylor

Ace reporter Scott Taylor went to Mayor Gilbert, who provided the e-mail for us. Here you go:

Instant Chat sent from Mayor Larry Gilbert in July 2008

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Um, yes, that's what the

Um, yes, that's what the commenting policy says. If you don't like that, go start your own blog.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy, which prohibits racist comments. Violate this policy again and your account will be banned for one week.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy. Do it again and you'll be banned for a week.

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This comment has been removed

This comment has been removed for violating our commenting policy by making personal attacks. The comment I removed above it was violated by making rascist and hateful statements. Violate this policy again, MainerinNY and your account will be banned for one week.

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not allowed. If I need to warn you again your account will be banned for one week.

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This comment was removed

This comment was removed because it was copy and pasted from this Web site:

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/01/15/the-bush-economic-legacy-the-u-...

Voisine, I have spoken to you about this issue several times. Copying and pasting text without attribution is plagiarism and against our commenting policy. Your account has been banned and you may re-apply for community membership in one week.

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Admin warning

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy. If it happens again I will ban your account for one week.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy, which prohibits name-calling and personal attacks.

If you violate this policy again, your account will be banned for one week.

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This comment and the one

This comment and the one below it were removed for violating our commenting policy. Ben, I have already warned you once and therefore I am banning your account for one week. You may reapply for membership on Nov. 26.

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Not sure I follow -- the

Not sure I follow -- the caption says that the two vehicles were in a collision, not that one hit the other?

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Hey citygirl, We're looking

Hey citygirl,

We're looking at a couple different things to change the way that we handle comments, like making people use their first names, or instituting a two-strikes policy. Until recently I was reluctant to ban habitual offenders because its hard to keep them from reregistering with another pseudonym. But several people have made compelling arguments to me to revise that policy.

Anyway, the survey closes a week from Tuesday, and I'll make another post with the results. You can review them now at the link I posted above.

Thanks!

Pattie

(And as always, if anyone wants to send me private comments, my email is preaves@sunjournal.com)

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Hey -- I responded to them,

Hey --

I responded to them, didn't I? I remember getting the second one, but not the first. And I took his comment down and sent him a warning. I get around 20-30 a day and I try to respond to every one that I can, but sometimes they get lost.

Anyway, if it wasn't addressed, it was an honest mistake.

Pattie

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This account was blocked after this comment had been made.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy. If I need to warn you again your account will be banned for one week.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

I had just warned you about leaving comments that violate our commenting policy less than an hour before you left this comment and you still broke it again by using disrespectful and needlessly profane language.

As a result I am banning your account for one week. You may reapply for membership on Nov. 24.

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This comment was removed for

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Admin warning

Dan, personal attacks are not allowed.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

Pirate, you have been warned. If I have to warn you again I will ban your account for one week.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

I have emailed Ben and if it happens again I am banning his account.

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It added the period at the

It added the period at the end of my sentence to the link. Grr! You can read the policy here:

http://www.sunjournal.com/policy

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Will do -- I guess Twtpoll

Will do -- I guess Twtpoll doesn't make the results of a survey public by default, like it does from polls.

You can follow the answers as they come in here: http://twtpoll.com/r/7g6te9

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I noticed after you called,

I noticed after you called, Dan, that we did not run with that information in the newspaper today. I'm not sure where that fact that she was the first female ambassador to Africa came from, so I'm investigating now.

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It's true -- in 2008, L-A had

It's true -- in 2008, L-A had the lowest crime rate of all major metro areas in Maine:

http://www.sunjournal.com/node/841811

Bangor had the highest in 2009:

http://www.bangordailynews.com/story/Greater-Bangor/Bangor-crime-rate-hi...

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Admin warning

Fed-up, personal attacks are not allowed. Please be respectful.

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While I don't think his post

While I don't think his post is very nice, it does not cross the line of our commenting policy because it is neither racist nor a personal attack (as its not directed at anyone).

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I blocked Candice until Nov.

I blocked Candice until Nov. 18. Judy Meyer, our managing editor, talked to the Rumford Police Department and they did respond to her call and found no one there trying to break into her house. Then she kept posting comments saying that the police did not come, which is in violation of our commenting policy.

I like Candice and I think that she adds a lot to this community. But she broke the rules. Repeatedly. So she got banned for a week. That's what happened.

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Nancy, you need to knock it

Nancy, you need to knock it off.

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Tron was un-banned from the

Tron was un-banned from the site on Nov. 11. So if it was Dan I'd assume he'd be posting under his real name. And also, for your edification, here's our commenting policy which asks commenters on this website to be respectful when addressing other commenters. Thanks.

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I removed the second comment

I removed the second comment for you.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy, which prohibits racist comments. Please keep the conversation civil and appropriate for the general public.

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This comment was edited for

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I'm disabling comments on

I'm disabling comments on this story since the discussion is not about this particular story and the Sun Journal cannot verify CandiceAnne's story, and postings about it violate our commenting policy.

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We publish the names of all

We publish the names of all people involved in an accident that are released by the police regardless of race, gender, or nationality.

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Your comments were removed

Your comments were removed because they violated our commenting policy. Potentially libelous statements are not allowed.

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He called you juvenile names.

He called you juvenile names. You called him a drug user. There's a difference.

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Ron,

You can't copy and paste content from other websites into the comments at SunJournal.com, even if you link to them. It's a violation of other sites' copyright, and even if they allow it to be republished, it is excessive to make other readers scroll through several screens of text. A link will suffice.

Pattie
Web Editor, The Sun Journal

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I removed this comment and

I removed this comment and the one below it because they violate our commenting policy.

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This comment was removed for

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Hey, thanks for posting that,

Hey, thanks for posting that, CandiceAnne! I enjoyed reading your suggestions. :)

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To say that most couples work

To say that most couples work (and get paid) for 60 hours of work per week is very optimistic.

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This comment was edited because it violates our commenting policy.

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This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

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Please stop it with the

Please stop it with the name-calling.

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There are very few stories I

There are very few stories I disable comments on, and I can say with confidence that I have never disabled comments on a story about elected officials.

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This comment has been removed for violating our commenting policy.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy, which prohibits vulgar and obscene language.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy. No personal attacks.

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That's patently untrue.

That's patently untrue.

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Barack Obama is not a muslim.

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While this comment did not

While this comment did not strictly violate our commenting policy, I'm removing it because it violates our community decency standards. Someone's child died here, people.

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I don't follow ...

I don't follow ...

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Tron has been banned since he

Tron has been banned since he posted that comment (though not for that comment).

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Veritas, please be respectful.

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He was banned until Nov. 11

He was banned until Nov. 11 for violating our commenting policy.

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I got your report but I am

I got your report but I am leaving the comment up because while it may be offensive to some, it does not violate our commenting policy.

Everyone, please keep in mind that we will not tolerate racist or disrespectful language.

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IT WAS ME, I confess. Sorry

IT WAS ME, I confess.

Sorry about the egregious typos and grammatical errors, guys.

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Voisine, this is not the first time that I have warned you about doing this. Your account is banned until Oct. 18, when I come back from vacation.

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You two need to knock it off.

You two need to knock it off.

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You can't call someone an

You can't call someone an idiot on these forums. Do it again and I'll ban your account.

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I removed this comment, and

I removed this comment, and its subsequent reply, for violating our commenting policy.

Brain, this is not the first time I have had to remove you for making racist comments. If I have to do so again, you account will be banned for 48 hours. Besides, I thought you were done with the Sun Journal?

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No name calling. And both of you need to be more respectful to each other if you want to post here.

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There have only been 9

There have only been 9 convictions in the past 10 years, the last one being in April of 2010 where he drove 50 in a 25. The 21 suspensions span Scott's entire driving record.

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Sharp eyes, you're right! I

Sharp eyes, you're right!

I fixed it in the story, thanks.

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This thread has gotten way out of hand. You all need to read the commenting policy and take some time away from your keyboard. I'm shutting down comments on this story.

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You both need to knock it off.

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Dan, you can't go around calling people crackpots on here.

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You can look at my profile

You can look at my profile and see all the comment removals and warnings I've given to people, including Dan.

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I removed this comment at

I removed this comment at Ray's request.

You all need to cool off a bit. I am disabling comments on this thread.

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See:

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See:

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See:

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This comment, and another by

This comment, and another by Voisine, was removed for violating our commenting policy and breaking copyright infringement.

It's OK to quote other sources, but you need to link to them, not just copy and paste the whole thing outright.

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I edited this comment to link

I edited this comment to link to the photos rather than display them outright, as the photos are
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2) the first is quite offensive.

That being said, if you would like to see them, you can follow through the links in the comment to do so.

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Here is the first story done

Here is the first story done about the controversy at the cemetery:

http://www.sunjournal.com/city/story/910742

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I removed this comment, and

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These comments were removed

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No.

No.

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That's it, you're done, Bob.

That's it, you're done, Bob.

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The Eid celebrations were on

The Eid celebrations were on the website on in the early afternoon of Friday, Sept. 10, the day before Sept. 11. Later in the afternoon, a Sept. 11 memorial story led the website and the Eid video was secondary.

Same thing for the subsequent day, Sept. 11.

If I may, this is a copy of a letter that regional editor Scott Thistle wrote in reply to another reader who questioned our balance of Ramadan coverage and Sept. 11 memorial coverage:

Dear Mr. Begin,

Our (Sun Journal) coverage on Saturday Sept. 11, included an A-1 cover story on the Sept. 11 anniversary and a listing of local Sept. 11 memorial events that were planned in our area. I would dare say this was our lead story -- front and center with two prominent photos -- This ran above the fold, with a feature photo from Cleveland.

We did not have any local Sept. 11 events on Friday Sept. 10 -- or we would have used a local photo for that story. It's hard to cover Sept. 11 memorial events BEFORE they occur. We did the next best thing and told readers about the events, when and where they would be held.

It is true, our local section front page B-1 - not on the cover -- included a feature photo of an 11-year-old girl celebrating Eid with her family in Lewiston -- you can clearly see her face, which was the dominate photo on B1 of our Maine section. Also on our Saturday religion page we had a story about Muslims, 9 million of them, the world over marking the end of Ramadan. This was page B5 with a Cairo dateline.

There was no story on the Eid celebration locally -- only the two photos in print. The secondary shot was of folks praying -- it was shot from the balcony of the Lewiston Armory but is not of the "backsides" of anybody pointed toward our readers. You continue to repeat this but I have not seen any photos from our staff that represent that statement -- even with a big stretch of your imagination.

We very intentionally put the Sept. 11 story -- on the ninth anniversary "out front" as we say in the business -- and the listing of local ceremonies there too, so people could attend one if they wanted to. We pushed local Eid coverage to the local section, also intentionally, out of the anticipated anger over us covering that at all.

On Saturday we had three reporters and two photographers cover memorial services for Sept. 11 in three different towns. Lewiston-Auburn, Livermore and Norway -- really four towns.

This coverage was prominent on our Maine section with a lot of space devoted to photos from these events and two stories. We also had an A-1 story on Sunday from the wire on Sept. 11 -- "Nation marks 9/11 in sorrow". It ran in the lead spot -- the top left side of the page. Above it was a very prominent "teaser" a star-spangled 911 with the sub-head "Remembering" and a listing to the local coverage -- of local events and people. We also had a history feature on military plane crashes in Maine on our Sunday cover.This was a planned feature that was not-necessarily Sept. 11-related but far from Muslim-centric in the nature of the report.

Finally, On Sunday we also covered the Blue Mass, with photos and a story, for public safety workers who have died in the line of duty and that story ran on B1 today (Monday), with a very large photo of the Catholic bishop shaking hands with Lewiston's Fire Chief. That event - the Blue Mass -- was also promoted on Saturday with a lead story on B-1, beside, but above, the photo of the child at the Eid celebration. This is the second Catholic mass we have covered with a story and photos in two weeks and the second prominent photo of Bishop Malone in our paper in two weeks. Does that feel like we are ignoring our Catholic readers to you?

We (the editorial staff) discussed the issue of the Sept. 11 anniversary coinciding with Eid and decided to intentionally downplayed the Eid celebration in deference to our readers' sensitivities. We all felt the Sept. 11 anniversary needed and should be the lead story for the weekend pages... and it was.

Our mission statement is: "We publish the Sun Journal to inform, challenge and reflect the communities we serve." To meet that we cannot and will not simply ignore an entire sector of our population. We won't pick and choose which religious groups we cover and don't cover. If you notice we also had a very lengthy "FaceTime" in our B-plus Section with the Rev. Doug Taylor ... I'm sure that offended some people as well.

But just to recap over the weekend starting with Sept. 11 through today. We had 8 stories related to Sept. 11 and the Blue Mass for police, fire and rescue workers. We had 11 photos and one video that were related to Sept. 11 events.

So 8 stories, 11 photos, 1 video for Sept. 11. 20 items produced by five different staff people.

For Eid we had: two photos and one online video -- shot by a single photographer and one wire story on Ramadan ending on page B-5.

That's 20 items to 4 items.

The ninth anniversary of Sept. 11 was given 5 times the coverage we gave to local Eid celebration coverage.

Really Richard, I think you are barking way up the wrong tree on this one and are being wholly unfair in your consideration of the Sun Journal's efforts to duly mark Sept. 11 over the weekend.

If nothing esle you should apologize to our hard-working staff the five reporters and photographers who actually got up and went to the Sept. 11 memorial services -- trust me they were honored to do -- instead of just bitching about the fact that we also covered the Eid celebration -- which, by the way, actually invovlved quite literally thousands of people in our city. Should we have ignored that?

The facts are: we devoted 7 times the print space and five times the staff resources to Sept. 11 than we did to our coverage of Eid locally.

Those are the simple facts Richard. You can't deny them. We didn't play Eid over Sept. 11 -- not by a long shot -- if you actually took the time to count up the stories, photos and also carefully onsidered the placement of those stories and photos on the page, I think you will see our coverage was leaning very heavily towards Sept. 11 memorial.

The Sun Journal had staff at three of the local Sept. 11 Memorial Services and also at the Blue Mass on Sunday --- which did you attend? Nobody saw you at any of them.

My kindest regards,
Scott Thistle
Regional Editor
Sun Journal

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For what?

For what?

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We posted a link to the

We posted a link to the Kennebec Journal story, so you can go read it there.

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Of course not. There is a

Of course not. There is a comment policy. It's clearly spelled out. http://www.sunjournal.com/policy. People who violate it are warned, have their comments removed, and in extreme cases, are banned. It doesn't matter who you are.

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1. It is illegal to deny

1. It is illegal to deny someone employment based on race or religion.

2. If you read the stories, you'd see that there were fewer and fewer businesses on Lisbon Street before the African immigrants began setting up shops there. You can scroll down to the bottom of the page and see the chart.

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The only commenters that are

The only commenters that are paid are the ones that have red "staff" badges around their user pictures, like mine.

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No, that's not a violation of

No, that's not a violation of our comment policy, but it certainly is a questionable jump in logic. To draw that conclusion from Bob's statement is a non sequitur.

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You must be thinking of a

You must be thinking of a different story -- no comments have been removed from this story.

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I'm not sure what you mean

I'm not sure what you mean about the cut-and-pasted part, but here is where I draw the line --

A personal attack is an attempt to discredit a person's argument by arguing against the character of the person instead of the validity of the argument.

Thus, I would say that it is acceptable to say, "Your ideas are bigoted," or "Your ideas are racist," or "Your ideas are ignorant," but not "You are dumb/an idiot/a loser/ignorant."

If you have specific examples I would be happy to address them.

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You both need to knock it off.

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Fair enough. I will promise

Fair enough. I will promise to make a better effort to do a thorough review if you will promise to abide by the rules. Which I define as not attacking other posters for who they are, or for any reason unrelated to their argument (point) at hand. And, like you said, by reporting inappropriate comments and letting Sun Journal staff do the moderating instead of calling that commenter out yourself and escalating the conversation.

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I don't know who deleted the

I don't know who deleted the comment about a typo in a pothole story, but I assure you that it was not intentional.

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Report those comments to me

Report those comments to me and I'll warn that person if its appropriate or remove them if necessary. If you are referring to a specific comment that you have reported that I have not removed, I'd be happy to address specifics.

Our moderation policy is to post a warning when people have broken the rules and to remove comments when they are damaging to people or a group of people who are unable or unavailable to defend themselves in the thread.

This is the full text of the email I sent to thinkingman after I banned him and Tron for 48 hours:

Hey Bob,

I recognize that it might appear that I don't warn Dan as often as I warn you or other people. Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to sit and read every comment that is left on our website. I wish I did, because it's a part of my job that I really enjoy and that I think staff moderation and participation is very important to success a community news organization, but I don't have the time or the ability to do it all.

That being said, most of the moderation that I do get to do is reading the comments that are reported to me via the "report inappropriate comment" link. That may be why it appears that I do not warn Dan as often, because he is very good at sending to me inappropriate comments that have been directed at him.

The bottom line, though, is that you two are sniping at each other at every chance you get. I understand there is some sort of familial disagreement between you two. And I am sorry to hear that. But you have to get along with him, or at least [not] respond to him, because those are the rules that we have in order to participate on our site.

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Bob —

My point was not that Dan is a complainer, but that Dan plays by the rules and many (including you, Bob) do not, which is why it appears why I do not warn him for inappropriate comments as often.

I am really tired of getting in between you guys all the time. What's the value to fighting on the Internet constantly? If someone disagrees with you, be a bigger person and walk away. Let the wrong end with them, not you.

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You had a 48-hour ban too,

You had a 48-hour ban too, Bob, for the same reason -- always attacking each other -- so please play by the rules.

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You need to cool off.

Personal attacks and threatening statements are against the rules.

Check your email.

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That's it.

Check your inboxes, I'm banning both of you until Tuesday.

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Bob, you need to quit it with

Bob, you need to quit it with the personal attacks.

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I edited your comment to

I edited your comment to include only a link to the story because it violates the Press Herald's copyright to copy and paste a whole story from their website.

Unless it is your own work, you should include a link, not copy and paste something in its entirety.

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Dan, no personal attacks ...

Dan, no personal attacks ... you know better ...

Also, as much as I do love my job (I really do), I can't be on here all the time and I was off today at a funeral. So momof4, please be patient with me if I don't respond right away -- that's why I say in the "report inappropriate comment" message that it can take up to one business day for a response.

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Because the Kennebec Journal

Because the Kennebec Journal was covering the trial as it was held in Kennebec Superior Court, and we have a story sharing agreement with the Kennebec Journal, we are using their coverage to inform our readers about the trial.

You can follow the links in the story to read all the details about the trial. I just wrote up a few sentences here because, per our sharing agreement, we do not re-print other paper's stories on our Web site.

And that is absolutely not true that we "gave a whole section to Somalians [sic]". We wrote five stories about the changing face of Lisbon Street, stories which explored the street's past and future -- a future which very much includes the African immigrants in our community.

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Knock it off, Dan.

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Knock it off, Bob.

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Well, K, you're entitled to

Well, K, you're entitled to your opinion. But you're not entitled to make it here. This is an open forum for the community, and in order to preserve this open forum, we have community standards. Those community standards are clearly outlined on our commenting policy page, a page which I think you should go read.

This isn't about conservatives versus liberals. This is about using respectful language that creates a productive dialog.

Since you don't care to do that, I'm banning your account. Good bye.

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This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy. Personal attacks and hate speech are not allowed. This is not your first warning in the past three days. Knock it off.

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Knock off the personal attacks.

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Lets keep the conversation

Lets keep the conversation civil, guys.

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They were in the story that

They were in the story that ran on Friday online: http://www.sunjournal.com/city/story/900648

They were shot with an iPhone by Scott Thistle, our regional editor. Our photographer, Jose Leiva, came back later to shoot photos with a professional camera. Because the other photos by Scott were of lower quality, they did not run in the paper. This is the story that ran in the paper.

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No personal attacks.

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There were two stories about

There were two stories about social clubs. What part of the story do you think we left out? If there are still questions, we can always write more stories.

Do you live in this community? Are you telling me that, as a member of this community, these stories don't matter to you at all? What would make them matter more to you?

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Sorry, here's the one that's

Sorry, here's the one that's missing:

On Lisbon Street, social clubs and taverns' heyday long gone.

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Did you read this one:

Did you read this one:

Somali stores bring people back to Lisbon Street

or this one?

On Lisbon Street, social clubs and taverns' heyday long gone

or this one?

Lewiston Social is lower Lisbon Street's last club standing

They explore the other sides of the issue. You can see them all at the project page, http://www.sunjournal.com/lisbonstreet.

If you go to the project page, you can also scroll down to the bottom to see a diagram of when the storefronts have been occupied over the years. In 1949, there were 97 occupied storefronts. In 2009, there were 24. In the past year, there were 12 stores which opened on that area of Lisbon Street, the only point in time in the past 5 decades that the number of stores on the street has increased.

You can see a chart of the names of all the stores in the past 50 years here.

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Cut it out, Bob.

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You can read in the secon

You can read in the secon graph the quote from the police that says they do not believe the camp had anything to go with the vandalism.

Would you sleep outside if you had a home to go to?

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Anyone could have picked up

Anyone could have picked up free shoes (and did). The fact that you would even make that connection is ridiculous.

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I think he was being

I think he was being sarcastic ...

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You cannot copy and paste

You cannot copy and paste text straight from another website. That's copyright infringement. If you'd like to share information published somewhere else in your comments, please include a link instead.

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Stop with the personal attacks.

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Cut it out, Bob.

Cut it out, Bob.

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It was sarcasm ...

It was sarcasm ...

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I'm going to allow it because

I'm going to allow it because it relates to the story.

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Second warning

You guys need to cut it out or I am banning both your accounts for 24 hours.

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There is a rhetorical

There is a rhetorical difference between saying "I would call you _________" and saying "you are ________". No one who reads that comment is considering it a representation of the truth, and thus it does not violate the guideline which prohibits the spread of libelous statements.

We are guided by a newsroom policy that says it is inappropriate to remove content from our website unless it strictly violates our commenting policy. To remove content from the site for any reason other than a violation of this policy diminishes transparency and trust with our readers.

Since the policy violation here is baseless personal attacks or otherwise threatening, and its place on this site does not threaten or cause harm to any of our readers other than to whom these comments have been directed — a dialog in which they are taking part — I do not see the need to remove the comments, which have already been read.

- Pattie

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Admin warning

You three (vzep, scott, and tron) need to cut it out.

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Hey! Sorry about that, that's

Hey!

Sorry about that, that's quite an oversight. Here's the link: http://biketobowdoin.blogspot.com/

-Pattie

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not allowed. Cut it out.

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Making assumptions about a

Making assumptions about a group of people because of their race is the very definition of racial prejudice, which is exactly how I would describe your comment. And I am not alone in this assessment, as several community members alerted me to this fact by reporting your comment.

And no, assumptions are not facts.

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We do everything we can to

We do everything we can to make the process of moderating the community as transparent as possible. I review every inappropriate comment report I receive. If you have any suggestions as to how this process could be more fairly administered, or adaptions to phrasing of this policy, you are more than welcome to share them with us.

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These comments have been

These comments have been removed for violating our commenting policy. Namecalling is not allowed.

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Clairvoyance, to whom are you

Clairvoyance, to whom are you speaking?

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From the policy: In order to

From the policy:

In order to participate in this forum, we ask our users to refrain from making comments that are:

* Potentially libelous (slanderous)
* Defamatory, abusive, obscene, racist, or otherwise hateful
* Excessively foul and/or vulgar
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* Baseless personal attacks or otherwise threatening
* Contain illegal material, or material that infringes on the rights of others
* Commercial postings attempting to sell a product/item

We have this policy because we want SunJournal.com to be an open forum where all are welcome.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

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Please be respectful.

Please be respectful.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating out commenting policy.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

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This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

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The hospital has confirmed

The hospital has confirmed this is true:

http://www.sunjournal.com/node/888831

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I just called the hospital to

I just called the hospital to see if we can get a confirmation on that. Will post as soon as I get it.

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The man who was standing on

The man who was standing on his bicycle and crashed happened in Bridgton, and was unrelated to the Lisbon Street crash.

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Because your comments are

Because your comments are personal attacks on other commenters that have nothing to do with the story.

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This comment was removed for

This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

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Bob, you know better.

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This comment was removed for violating our commenting policy.

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Please treat other commenters with respect.

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Please review our commenting

Please review our commenting policy.

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This comment was removed

This comment was removed because it violates our commenting policy.

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I removed part of this

I removed part of this comment because copying and pasting storied from other Web sites violates their copyright. If you would like to read the story to which Voisine is referring, you can do so here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-fiderer/the-simple-arithmetic-of_b_9...

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Admin warning

Please stop the personal attacks.

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This comment was removed at

This comment was removed at the poster's request.

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Fair enough.

Fair enough.

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Removed for violating our

Removed for violating our commenting policy. You know better, Dan.

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Please read our commenting

Please read our commenting policy.

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not allowed. Knock it off.

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not allowed.

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Please review our commenting policy.

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Enough with the personal

Enough with the personal attacks.

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Personal attacks are not

Personal attacks are not allowed. Please review our commenting policy.

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Please review our commenting

Please review our commenting policy.

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Please read our commenting

Please read our commenting policy.

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Maurice, this is not the

Maurice, this is not the first time I have removed your comments for violating our commenting policy. If I need to do so again I will block your account.

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Sandra2 this is not the first

Sandra2 this is not the first time you have been warned about violating our commenting policy. Stop it.

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What thinkingman commented is

What thinkingman commented is true. Thanks for correcting the issue, Bob.

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Well, we have a policy

Well, we have a policy against spreading potentially libelous information so, no, you can't say that here.

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I just spoke to Lindsay and

I just spoke to Lindsay and she said she plans to follow up with the boy's mother. If there is news to share about her son or the Brandon school, we'll post it.

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I removed your comment

I removed your comment because it is completely unsubstantiated and while I have not yet read all 200 comments on Lindsay's story I assure you that when I find the ones to which you are referring I will remove them too.

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If you have to preface your

If you have to preface your comment that way, it's because you probably do.

If you read the story, you'll see that the money comes in a grant from the federal government, not from the City of Lewiston.

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You can use the "report

You can use the "report inappropriate comment" link and I'll remove them for you. Just explain you posted the same comment multiple times.

We don't allow users to delete comments in order to preserve fairness and accountability.

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I removed this comment, and

I removed this comment, and the comments below it by ajg1959 for grossly violating the Sun Journal's commenting policy. That kind of talk has no place here and this is not the first time either of you have been warned. If it happens again I will ban you both. Furthermore I am shutting down the comments on this thread since clearly they don't have anything to do with the story itself.

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Dan, this isn't the place to

Dan, this isn't the place to go there.

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Bob, you need to can it with

Bob, you need to can it with the personal attacks.

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Knock it off.

Knock it off.

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This comment was removed

This comment was removed because it violates our commenting policy.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it violates our commenting policy.

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This comment was removed

This comment was removed because it violates our commenting policy.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it violates our commenting policy, and furthermore had little to do with the letter.

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Because I just saw it.

Because I just saw it.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it violates our commenting policy. Please go read it.

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Removed for the same reason

Removed for the same reason the original comment was ... please keep the conversation civil. And PG.

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You too. No personal attacks.

You too. No personal attacks.

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Please review our commenting

Please review our commenting policy, as I suggested in another comment.

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Personal attacks are not

Personal attacks are not allowed. Cut it out.

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We don't allow personal

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I know, the look on his face

I know, the look on his face kills me. :(

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Guys, knock it off!

Guys, knock it off!

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Hey, these are kids you're

Hey, these are kids you're talking about. Let's keep the disagreement civil (and between adults).

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Adming warning

DR and RuffRyderGirl, please review our commenting policy.

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Cut it out, you two.

Cut it out, you two.

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You both need to knock it

You both need to knock it off.

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That is true. It's also true

That is true. It's also true that the Bangor Daily News, Portland Press Herald, Kennebec Journal and Waterville Morning Sentinel are in a story-sharing agreement where we print other papers' stories on our newspages. So that is why you may see stories from our paper in theirs and vice-versa.

(I know this is a very old comment but I was here doing some housekeeping on some spammers ... grr ...)

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From our commenting policy

The comments area of SunJournal.com is an open forum for all members of our community. It's here for you, to share your reactions, feelings and ideas to the events that are happening in our community. Sometimes everyone may not agree with what you say, and we ask that you keep your conversation respectful and on topic.

I fail to see how much of this conversation is on topic in regards to a celebration of African heritage. Or is inclusive and respectful.

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I only remove comments as a

I only remove comments as a last resort for that very reason.

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Because "white" countries are

Because "white" countries are rich countries.

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Our commenting policy. Read

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This is not just directed at

This is not just directed at Tron, but to most of the people who have replied thus far on this story:

Sometimes everyone may not agree with what you say, and we ask that you keep your conversation respectful and on topic.

That means no name calling, no personal attacks.

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This comment has been removed

This comment has been removed because it violates our commenting policy.

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This comment has been removed

This comment has been removed because it violates our commenting policy. You know better, Tron.

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If anyone has photos of the

If anyone has photos of the event and would like to see them here, you can email them to me at preaves@sunjournal.com and I'd be happy add them to this story.

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To the three of you -- knock

To the three of you -- knock it off.

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To those whose comments I

To those whose comments I removed on this thread: Please review commenting policy which prohibits racist or hate speech.

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Please respect other bloggers

Please respect other bloggers and our commenting policy.

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KG and lewistonauburn, stop

KG and lewistonauburn, stop the namecalling and the personal attacks.

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Please review our commenting

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Please review our commenting

Please review our commenting policy. If you have any questions, you can email me here.

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Please review our commenting

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Cut it out.

Cut it out.

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Please review our commenting

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This comment has been edited

This comment has been edited per our commenting policy. If you have any questions you can e-mail me.

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Veritas ...you know the

Veritas ...you know the policy.

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Don't be ridiculous. I had

Don't be ridiculous. I had ONE person report this comment to me, which I just got to. Why didn't you?

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Knock it off, guys.

Knock it off, guys.

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Ahh. I don't think that would

Ahh. I don't think that would be clear to most people reading your comment. Sarcasm does not travel well over the Internet.

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Taking out my mod hat one last time ...

... now play nice. We're all adults here. No need for the name calling.

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You have the right to

You have the right to disagree with someone, but please be respectful when doing so.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it violates our commenting policy, particularly because it was:
# Potentially libelous (slanderous)
# Defamatory, abusive, obscene, racist, or otherwise hateful

We don't tolerate hateful language towards any race or religion here.

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It's not funny and it's not

It's not funny and it's not respectful. I fail to see the humor in your comment.

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Don't worry, I pruned out the

Don't worry, I pruned out the extra ones for you.

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Threatening and demeaning

Threatening and demeaning comments are not tolerated here. Please review the comment policy before you make another comment.

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Same goes for you, Voisine.

Same goes for you, Voisine.

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Please review our commenting

Please review our commenting policy, which expects users to refrain from baseless personal attacks.

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If you're going to make a

If you're going to make a racist and hateful comment, please save yourself the time and keep your thoughts to yourself.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it is in violation of our commenting policy. If you have any questions you can email me.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it is in violation of our commenting policy. If you have any questions you can email me.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it is in violation of our commenting policy. If you have any questions you can email me.

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Vanguard, I'm not sure what

Vanguard, I'm not sure what you're getting at, but threatening comments are a violation of our commenting policy. Knock it off.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it violates our commenting policy.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it violates our commenting policy. Please keep the conversation respectful.

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Please keep the conversation

Please keep the conversation respectful.

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I have removed this and a

I have removed this and a comment below because it violates our commenting policy, which for you guys I think I have referenced 500000 times. Please knock it off. Keep the conversation respectful.

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Angelsx34eva, quit it. This

Angelsx34eva, quit it. This is your last warning.

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Please keep the conversation

Please keep the conversation pg-13.

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I edited your comment because

I edited your comment because it does not fit our community standards.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it violates our commenting policy. If you have any questions about this, you can email me.

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Don't call names. Read the

Don't call names. Read the commenting policy.

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I edited this comment to

I edited this comment to remove the name calling, as per our commenting policy.

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I removed this comment

I removed this comment because it violates our commenting policy.

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I edited your comment on this

I edited your comment on this post because it violates our commenting policy. It's unfair to attack people online who aren't here to defend themselves. If you have any questions about this, you can email me.

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The warning is for everyone,

The warning is for everyone, but you have been a habitual offender.

Anyone who is an employee of the Sun Journal has a red staff badge around their icon.

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Bob, knock it off.

Bob, knock it off.

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This comment violates our

This comment violates our commenting policy. Posting addresses of others or other threatening comments will NOT be tolerated. Violators of this policy will be banned. Please email me if you see anyone violating this policy.

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Please keep the conversation

Please keep the conversation respectful.

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This comment has been removed

This comment has been removed from because it does not adhere to our community standards.

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I've removed this comment

I've removed this comment because it does not adhere to our community standards. If you would like, you can rephrase and re-post your comment.

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I'm going to allow his

I'm going to allow his comment because it makes sense in the context.

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I have removed your comment

I have removed your comment because it violates our commenting policy. If you have any questions you can email me at preaves@sunjournal.com

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You need to email me, I don't

You need to email me, I don't see all the comments that are posted.

preaves@sunjournal.com

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I have removed your comment

I have removed your comment because it violates our commenting policy. If you have any questions, you can contact us using the feedback tab to the right.

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I have removed this comment

I have removed this comment and the one earlier in this thread for violation of our commenting policy. If you have any questions, you may contact us using the feedback tab.

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It's an annoying spammer. If

It's an annoying spammer. If you see them, if you let me know by using the feedback tab, that would be really helpful!

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We have removed the picture

We have removed the picture by request of one of the children's father.

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I had to edit your comment

I had to edit your comment because it violates the New York Times copyright to post their full-length article on our site.

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This comment was removed

This comment was removed because it violated our terms of abuse. If you have any questions, you can contact me at preaves@sunjournal.com.

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We are monitoring the

We are monitoring the comments, as per our privacy policy.

We try to keep SunJournal.com an open forum, which means that we only take down comments as a last resort. Some people have disagreeable or uninformed opinions but they have every right to express them. It is our hope that, if the community doesn't agree with someone's opinion, they share as much.

Now there are hundreds of comments on the story about the party and I can't read every one. But I have been taking down the ones that violate our policy as I see them, and if you see any that you feel should be brought to our attention, I encourage you to report them by emailing me: preaves@sunjournal.com

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We will. Stay tuned.

We will. Stay tuned.

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I asked the Bureau of Highway

I asked the Bureau of Highway Safety about how many of those fatalities were wearing a seatbelt and this is the response I got from Michelle Ward, who is a Highway Safety Coordinator:

A search of the FARS records indicates in 2009 there were a total of 159 fatalities in the State of Maine. Of the 159 fatalities- 117 fatalities occurred in a passenger motor vehicle- (does not include large trucks, pedestrians, bicycles, motorcycles and ATV’s) of the 117 fatalities - 49 individuals wore seat belts.

In 2008 there were a total of 155 fatalities in the State of Maine. Of the 155 fatalities- 108 fatalities occurred in a passenger motor vehicle- does not include large trucks, pedestrians, bicycles, motorcycles and ATV’s) of the 108 fatalities- 51 individuals wore seat belts.

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Well, the program with this

Well, the program with this year's grant money has just started, so we won't know that information until the end of the summer.

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I think I got 'em. The trick

I think I got 'em. The trick is keeping spam out but letting real users comment, too ...

If you see them again, feel free to send me an email.

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Please be respectful.

Please be respectful.

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Dan, you and Bob need to

Dan, you and Bob need to knock it off.

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The AP reported that one of

The AP reported that one of the arrests were in Maine earlier in the afternoon, but later write-throughs of the story said that the Maine arrest wasn't connected. Here's what is the most recent info as of 3:30 p.m.:

Marcinkiewicz said the arrest in Maine was part of the investigation into the Times Square bomb plot, but said she had no additional details about the arrest.

"They're all connected, but the specifics to Maine I don't specifically what they were doing," she said. "But in their operation, they came across somebody who was in violation of immigration laws," she said.

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Please don't call names on

Please don't call names on this message board.

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That comment is ignorant and

That comment is ignorant and offensive.

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Bob, cut it out with the

Bob, cut it out with the sniping.

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I find that comment totally

I find that comment totally sexist.

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I've taken care of it. 

I've taken care of it.  Thanks for the note!

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You don't know that woman is

You don't know that woman is on welfare. 

We actually did work on a story about the number of people on people on disability in Maine not too long ago.  Anecdotally, there was an expectation that rates would be high in Maine and/or the Lewiston area, but we found that is not the case, especially if you consider that we are the state with the oldest workforce.

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Please keep your language

Please keep your language respectful.

-- Your site administrator

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Yes, since the police are

Yes, since the police are investigating.

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Oops. Good catch.

Oops. Good catch.

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Admin warning

Please keep the comments civil.

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Comments that have been removed

I have removed all comments which violate our commenting policy, which explicitly states that you cannot write comments which are potentially libelous. So, please don't run down other people, especially those who aren't here to defend themselves.

If you see someone who has left a comment like that, you can report them to me.

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Well, not that I know much

Well, not that I know much about this particular story or situation (other than what Soctt has reported) but, as a person who is looking to buy a house right now, I can tell you that there are a LOT of people who bought homes in 2005, 2006, 2007 who paid way more than they are worth today.

Makes me feel bad for them, but glad that I am buying a house now, and not then!

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Please follow our commenting

Please follow our commenting policy. If you have any questions about this, you can email me at preaves@sunjournal.com

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@mbthedragon, personal

@mbthedragon, personal attacks and death threats are absolutely not acceptable and if I see you posting them again, your account will be banned.

If you have any questions about this you can read our commenting policy.

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I'm glad they are doing OK.

I'm glad they are doing OK. What a terrible time for them and your family ... my condolences, as meaningful as they are from one stranger to another on an Internet messageboard.

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Yes, the driver died in the

Yes, the driver died in the accident.

@autoracingnut's comment was rather distasteful.

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From the admin

Yes, I have removed Birdwatcher's comment and will be closing comments on this story.

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Admin warning

Bob, please don't attack Tron. Personal attacks are NOT ACCEPTABLE.

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not allowed. Knock it off.

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I've blocked it (and all the

I've blocked it (and all the other spam accounts I've seen) and I've installed ReCaptcha on comments.  Hopefully this deters them!

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No, none of those things are

No, none of those things are acceptable.  And if you see them, you can email me and tell me and I will remove them from our Web site.

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not acceptable.

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OK guys, break it up. This is

OK guys, break it up. This is your LAST warning, personal attacks are not allowed on SunJournal.com

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What site?

What site?

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Admin note

Hey everyone,

This thread is getting out of hand.  Please refrain form using foul language, calling people names, or slandering others.

Posts that violate our commenting policy will be removed.  Individuals who repeatedly break the rules will be banned.

To report an offensive comment, please email me at preaves@sunjournal.com

Thanks.

Pattie Reaves, Web editor

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Admin warning

Please keep the conversation civil.

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That's ridiculous.  If I

That's ridiculous.  If I wanted to remove "everything and anything", I could and I wouldn't bother to have this conversation on this thread.

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Tron, cool it. This is your

Tron, cool it. This is your last warning, or I'll close comments on this thread.

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Not so new, I changed it up

Not so new, I changed it up back when I got married last September. :)

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Well, no, I'm not going to

Well, no, I'm not going to remove comments of people who make falacious arguments. That's what a forum is all about -- to air ideas and to call out those who have bad ones.

I do try, however, to weed out the comments that the average person would deem offensive -- which includes comments of an overt (and sometimes covert) sexual nature.  However, I am one person, and though I do spend an awful lot of time on SunJournal.com, I can't be everywhere at once.  I rely on the community to let me know when these discussions are out of control.  You can always email me, or give me a call at the Sun Journal -- 1-800-482-0753 x2324.

 

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Play nice

Hey everyone,

I've had to remove a few comments here that violated our commenting policy by slandering others who are not here to defend themselves on this thread.  Please play nice.

Thanks,

Pattie Reaves, Web Editor

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Admin warning

Personal attacks are not acceptable, Thinkingman.

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Admin warning

Disrespectful and racist comments will not be tolerated.

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Admin warning

Please keep the conversation civil. Personal attacks are not acceptable.

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Admin warning

Please keep the conversation civil.

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Admin warning

Please use respectful language.  Thanks.

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Admin warning

Please keep the conversation civil.

 

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Admin warning

Please keep the conversation civil.

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Please keep the conversation civil.

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Please stop the personal

Please stop the personal attacks and keep the conversation civil.

Pattie Reaves, Web editor

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Admin warning Please keep the

Admin warning

Please keep the conversation civil. Thanks.

Pattie Reaves, Web editor

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Mr. Bowden, Please tell us

Mr. Bowden,

Please tell us what you find wrong with the article, and if your complaints are warranted, then we will run a correction.  You can do so by emailing Judy Meyer.

We routinely run addresses with court records.  You can view any court or police records we have run today and see this.

-- Pattie Reaves, Web Editor

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Hi everyone, I had to replace

Hi everyone,

I had to replace this story because a spambot started leaving endless comments. So I apologize to the commenters with legitimate comments that were deleted.

Pattie Reaves, Web editor

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Hey! Thanks for the email,

Hey!

Thanks for the email, John. We're using a script that syncs our production database with our Web site, and sometimes it does funky things.

I do read the Get Satisfaction page, but I have to apologize, I don't always get to them as fast as I get to personal emails.

Thanks for your patience. It's been a long 9 weeks since these Web problems started.

--Pattie (preaves@sunjournal.com)

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Hi Candice, Sorry about that

Hi Candice,

Sorry about that inconvenience. The next time it happens, you can contact me at preaves@sunjournal.com and I'll try to figure out what the problem might be,

Thanks,

Pattie Reaves
Web Editor, The Sun Journal

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Thanks for pointing that

Thanks for pointing that out. I made the edit to the story.

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Please do not post comments

Please do not post comments in all caps.

Pattie Reaves
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Hi everyone,  Please keep

Hi everyone,

 Please keep the comments on here civil. If you see something that violates our commenting policy, you can report them to me using hte "flag as offensive" link. I will remove all comments that violate this policy and I will ban repeat offenders.

Pattie Reaves
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How so, Licia? What makes

How so, Licia? What makes him asking us to write the article different to you?

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Tron, knock it off.

Tron, knock it off.

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Please don't post comments

Please don't post comments in all caps. It's distracting to readers and is percieved as yelling your opinion.

Thanks,
Pattie Reaves, Web Editor

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That wasn't our intention.

That wasn't our intention. Our intention was that, if you want to help people in need -- what's the way that will help someone the most? Who can you trust? How do you know your money is going to someone who needs it? We're going to have reps from the United Way and the Salvation Army chatting with us about the work they do and how they use your money.

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Hey all, We're going to be

Hey all,

We're going to be hosting a chat at noon about how to give to charities, and where your charitable dollars go.

You can follow along right here:  http://www.sunjournal.com/node/427483

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Please don't write in all

Please don't write in all caps. It's perceived as yelling and distracting to other commenters.

Pattie Reaves, Web Editor

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It's my job to make the

It's my job to make the comments section of our site a welcome place for all SJ readers. Like someone else said, writing in all caps online is perceived as yelling, and while queenhoneybee meant no harm in doing so, it changed the tone of the conversation in here.

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Hi queenhoneybee, Please

Hi queenhoneybee,
Please stop posting your comments in all capital letters. It's distracting.
Thanks,
Pattie Reaves, Web Editor